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#1677 - The HARDEST Part Of “Success” - Freestyle Friday

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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People often think the road to success is easy and that being passionate is enough. But keeping that success going is like climbing a never-ending mountain. It needs a mix of love for what you do, being realistic, and never giving up. In this episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros talk about what it takes to stay successful for a long time. They also share that staying true to ourselves and our beliefs is essential. This way, we won’t look back and wish we had done things differently.

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Show notes:
(2:18) Keeping VS Achieving
(5:15) ‘The Goods’
(7:58) Believing in your potential and limits
(10:04) The accurate truth
(16:53) At NLU, we want you to win! So, we’re giving tools and resources to ensure your success. Join our Monthly Meet-up every first Thursday of the month at 6 PM. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/monthly-meetups/
(18:44) Not a bad drug
(20:58) You going to commit
(24:46) It’s not what you think
(29:07) A future free from regret
(30:25) Outro

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Speaker 1

Next Level Nation . Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University , where we help you level up your life , your love , your health and your wealth . We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode , episode number 1,676 . Is loneliness necessary when you're growing ? Maybe Today . For episode number 1,677 , freestyle Friday Nice . I told Alan , I told the whole team we had so we're recording this on Thursday , we had our team call on Wednesday . We had our team call every other Wednesday bi-weekly and we do .

Speaker 1

Most important win , most important improvement what's your most important win from the professional realm , from the growth realm , relationships , whatever it is , and what's your most important improvement ? And I didn't give either . I don't know if you know this , but I didn't say either . I just kind of went into . I don't really know . This is kind of what I'm going through . I don't know what the win is , I don't know what the improvement is , but I was talking about how I was looking back in my Snapchat from like 2017 , when the podcast first got started , even before the podcast looking back on my old work memories , on my old travel memories , and life was so much more simple and complicated back then , just in different ways , and really I think sustaining success is harder than getting it in many regards . Okay , let's imagine this you are someone who , let's say , right now you have a side gig , you have a side hustle , you have a side hustle .

Speaker 1

You have something you do that pays the bills , and then on the weekends you go take pictures or you walk dogs or whatever it is . Yes , it's hard to do both . Yes , it's hard to grow the side hustle while you're doing the other thing , because it eats up the majority of your time . But there's a certain thing that changes when you do the side hustle full-time , where there's a new level of pressure you didn't have before . Then maybe it's you have all the time in the world to do the side hustle , but you don't know what to do yet . Or you have all the time in the world to do the side hustle , but you don't know how to set boundaries yet , and then it's .

Speaker 2

Can you go through through the your experience with that ?

Speaker 1

because you had a job during the beginning of the hyper conscious podcast it was . It was kind of like a fun hobby and there was very little repercussions for not doing it . Well , there was very little repercussions for missing something , what I always try to do because people say you've never missed an episode and I'll say that's not true . In the beginning I did miss episodes . In the beginning I would go weeks without publishing episodes and guess what ? It didn't really matter that much because nobody knew anyway . So it's not like I had a bunch of people listening who cared when I was missing episodes . It didn't really matter In the beginning . It was like an exciting , fun hobby where there just wasn't as much at stake . There just wasn't that much at stake . I didn't have to be as committed Now . Because of that I didn't get nearly the results that I would have gotten , but I also didn't have to carry the amount of pressure that I had to carry . Later , when I left my job , one weight went off my shoulders and I had that moment of oh my goodness , I don't have to go to work anymore . That's wild . And immediately it was replaced with another weight that said well , what are you going to do ? You just left all the safety that you had and now you're into uncertain land and you don't really know what's going to happen . The weight of that is very , very heavy . I'm not telling you not to do it . What I am saying is I don't know .

Speaker 1

There's something to be said about the very beginning of a journey , when everything is sexy and everything is fun and everything is funny and everything's still shiny and you're kind of naive I think that's the best word to use is I was naive . I was naive to what this was going to take . I was naive to how long it was going to take . I was naive to what my life was going to look like . A year , two years , five years down the line , I wouldn't trade it . I wouldn't trade it . Year , two years , five years down the line , I wouldn't trade it , I wouldn't trade it . But the ultimate point that I'm dealing with right now is I think sustaining something is way harder , if you're not expecting it , than achieving success in the first place . Because if you think of the graph of success , it goes up and then it goes down , and then it goes back up higher than last time , then it goes back down . Hopefully it never goes down lower than the previous low .

Speaker 2

Hopefully . The problem is it feels the same , it almost feels worse .

Speaker 1

It almost feels worse . It almost , and I think that's why it's so challenging , because you feel like you're going backwards , because you don't have the perspective of what it was like to be backwards , because you don't have the perspective of what it was like to be in the very beginning , when I remember , I remember I don't know if this was the first time I ever got paid I don't think so because it was for $75 and I started I think I started coaching for $50 , but I screenshotted a Venmo that somebody sent me for $75 and it said the goods , the goods . Shout out to Jenna , shout out to Jenna .

Speaker 2

Shout out to Jenna . Jenna was my very first client ever . Jenna's still a client of mine . Shout out to Jenna . It's wild what's happening , Jenna . I hope she's listening .

Speaker 1

The Goods is what it was labeled as Nice . At that point that was life-changing . That was quite literally life-changing because I didn't have an income . But now it's almost like if I and again , it's different for everybody , but if I'm doing a call for $75 , it feels like I'm going backwards . Yeah , because that's not usually what I charge , even though that's way more than I ever made in the very beginning . It's so hard to contextualize where you are if you don't have perspective , and that's why I always go back and watch old episodes and look at old content , because I need that . I need to know , kev , I know it sucks and I know it feels like you're losing and I know it probably feels the worst it has ever felt . I know , but look back and remember you're in the best place you've ever been . You're just more clear of what the goals are . So you're further off than you've ever been to , which is a very weird place to live . So that's what I'm experiencing for this freestyle Friday Can we talk about ?

Speaker 2

the belief thing , because you have more belief than you ever did back then .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

So it's almost like back then you everything was gravy because you didn't believe good things were going to happen . So you start a podcast and you get I don't know 10 , 15 listens . Friends reach out and say , hey , great job . When you don't believe in yourself , that's really cool , whereas now we have more than that every single day , probably every hour actually , and but it doesn't feel the same as it did in the beginning , because in the beginning there was no expectation , there was no what comes up , every , everything , every high point yeah , every high point was a new high point .

Speaker 1

Yeah , exactly and exactly . And when you're not getting new high points , it feels like they're low points and they're not . They're not , they're just not high points .

Speaker 2

Yeah , your new worst is better than your old best , but it feels worse .

Speaker 2

That's something no one talks about , dude , and honestly I get so annoyed in this industry the self-improvement space because it feels we often talk on NLU about the spectrum , how some people are so hardcore life's going to suck no matter what . Grind , grind , grind , work your face off . You might work your face off and nothing will ever work out anyway . Just do all you can , whatever , whatever , whatever . And then , on the other end , there's this idea that you can manifest your dream life and the quote of I can do anything I set my mind to . The truth is the truth is no , you can't . You can't do anything you set your mind to . That's not accurate . It's inaccurate . You can't grow new legs . You can't win a marathon without training . You can't be the strongest person on the planet . You can't . I mean , maybe you could , but statistically speaking , probably not . There's certain things that you genuinely you're not going to beat LeBron James at basketball . That's the one I always go to because obviously he's a freak of nature . You can do a lot that you can if you set your mind to it . There's a lot that you can do and I know that sounds really empowering , but the truth is the accurate truth is you have to be the right person at the right place at the right time in the right way , work in the right amount toward the right things , with the right people for the right reason . And that's how hard is that ? No wonder why I'm starting to understand . I didn't understand when I was a kid how much my brain was calculating , and now that I've been writing this blog and I've been really breaking down what my brain does and trying to articulate it in a blog format , I've started to understand . I've been reflecting a lot on my past and when I was in high school I had two paths . I really had this honest conversation with myself . I know a lot of kids are like I want to be an astronaut , I want to be a firefighter . Those are dreams . I wasn't like that .

Speaker 2

When I said it , I actually went into the future , reverse , engineered everything . It would take all the credentials I needed . Whether or not it was possible , I actually calculated the probability of the outcome . So you flip a coin and it's 50-50 for heads , 50-50 for heads , 50-50 chance you get heads . I would actually calculate the possibility that I could do these things . And so for me , the two paths were engineer , master's in business , ceo of a Fortune 50 tech company . Now 80%—I researched this back then—80% of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies back then had an engineering undergrad with a graduate degree in Masters in Business Administration . So that's why I went and got my MBA . I didn't just land on a Masters in Business . I wasn't like , oh , I like business , let me try that . I reverse engineered everything and I'm an engineer , that's what I do . I reverse engineered everything and I'm an engineer , that's what I do .

Speaker 2

And the other alternative to that was lawyer , politician , president . And I really did the calculation . I said I'm a white Caucasian male who's had adversity , whose father died , who is good at articulating things , and I could be a lawyer and I could be a politician and I could one day potentially be president . And I did actually calculate that possibility . And I know how wild that sounds . It's so scary to share because people are like how cocky , is that right ? But I was a 10-year-old kid just really contemplating my future and I meant it Like I probably could have if I wanted to , but I could never be in the NBA . It's not like I . Here's the other thing . Let me give everyone the flip side of that coin . I did believe I could have been president . I genuinely , as a kid , believed that that was a possibility for me . It doesn't mean I guarantee it , but I think I could have done it . Now let me give you the flip side of that coin .

Speaker 2

I decided not to be a professional snowboarder because I knew I couldn't , because I didn't grow up on a mountain . I met my mom met with Seth Westcott . He's one of the Olympic gold medalists in snowboarding , the professional snowboarders of the world , the Olympic gold medalists . They grow up next to ski mountains . They go to high school at ski resorts , high schools on mountains . Mba president , and I believed I could do lawyer-politician-president which , by the way , that's what most people do . They do lawyer-politician-president Not always , but that's statistically what I researched . But with snowboarding , I remember saying I love snowboarding , I love basketball and I love video games . Video games , I think I could have done . I ended up getting a girlfriend and going to college , which was a huge mistake I'm kidding , no , it was a really good thing . But the snowboarding and basketball I had to have an honest conversation with myself .

Speaker 2

On the other end of Alan , you can't do anything you set your mind to . You are not going to be a professional snowboarder because you don't live on a mountain and you haven't been snowboarding until you were what . I didn't start snowboarding . I skied when I was four , but I didn't start snowboarding until I was 14 , 15 and the the . There's no catch in these guys . There's no catch in some and if you research their stories , trust me , there's no catch in them . I met one guy up in maine . I painted in maine , his name was li Liam , and this dude was skiing since he was like four and he grew up on a mountain . He was one of those guys and he could do like triple backflips landing . It was like a whole and it's just I said , listen , I can't , I'm not , I can't even , I'm not even gonna do this .

Speaker 2

So when , when I share these stories , there's a couple things . One , I believe in myself on one end , and I really did believe those two paths were possible and I ended up choosing engineer , mba , fortune 50 , ceo of a tech company . But I also had to relinquish certain dreams that I knew were not actually possible for me , and I want to help everyone kind of come into the realization of this truth , which is , kev you opened this with . I'm going through it . Sustaining success is actually harder than achieving it , what I don't want anyone to do is listen to this industry where they say you can do anything you set your mind to . That's not true , but you can do more than you probably think long term . So , everyone out there , I think you should believe in yourself most likely , statistically speaking , more than you do if you're willing to work long term . But this whole you can do anything you set your mind to thing isn't actually true . And if you have that honest conversation with yourself , you're actually more likely to achieve more .

Speaker 2

And I see people all the time they're on these two sort of ends of one . They don't believe in themselves at all , like you , kev , and they're like ah , I can't do it , there's no way I could do it , there's no way I could be a speaker . And it's like dude , of course you can , you absolutely could . You just got to put in the work and show up and fail forward and it's going to be brutal , but it's possible . And then you've got these other people who literally say , oh , I can do anything I set my mind to , and you look at their life and you take an honest look and you go . Well then , why are you not wealthier ? Why don't you like what you drive , why don't you like where you live ? Why don't you have a beach house ? Like you're just saying stuff and so again hardcore here . But I'm so I'm so committed to helping people just be accurate in their thinking . I feel like that's where all of the unlocks are .

Speaker 2

So if you're out there listening or watching this and you've been a long-term listener of hyper-conscious podcast conversations , change lives . Next level university the . Change the way you think , change the way you act , change the way you love . It start , uh , change the way you look , change the way you live and the way you love and the one you're with . Uh , it all starts with change the way you think , change the way you think . That's where this all started . You and I started thinking more accurately .

Speaker 1

I saw a post that I did from 2010 that was change the way you think , change the way you live 2010 .

Speaker 2

That's awesome , I found that yesterday I was like oh my goodness , screenshot that You've got to share , that that's so cool . So here's the thing .

Speaker 1

I got so lost in my Snapchat memories that I don't even know how to get back there . I got to figure it out . Snapchat . I didn't even know people still use it , same you never hear about it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , people are . Evidently people are crushing on it . For me , it was like I just had that moment . I had a block of time and I said I need to go back . I need to come back , as whatever I want , next round is either going to be a rapper or a fighter , like that's going to be my next . That's what I'm going to do , because now I actually believe I could do it before I didn't really believe I could do it now .

Speaker 2

It's like if had to believe now if you had the same level of dedication that you've put into this growth journey with me . There's no question , if you had started young enough , that you could have done it Now . Are you going to be the best in the world ? Maybe not . No right , right . But you could have been a professional , you could have been a paid fighter .

Speaker 1

I think that now . Yeah , I think that now .

Speaker 2

You probably would have some brain challenges .

Speaker 1

Definitely I'd have many injuries . I don't know . Yeah , I definitely have injuries . I don't know what they would be exactly , but I never had the belief , so it didn't really matter . That was kind of it .

Speaker 1

For me , it's like I don't know , do I really believe I'm actually going to be able to do this ? Do I really believe I'm actually going to be able to do this ? Do I really believe ? And there was a piece of me too that I don't know .

Speaker 1

I don't know if I actually wanted it bad or no . I wanted it , but I don't know if I wanted it as bad as the stories I've heard of people sleeping in the gym Like sleeping literally , not being able to afford a place . So they just sleep in the gym and they just train all day and they get really , really , really good . I don't know . I don't know . Or the rapping in front of 10 people that hate you every night and just getting booed off stages , like I don't know . Maybe because that's the thing is , that's not where you'd start . You'd start somewhere else . You'd start way less than that and that actually might be a success for you . Right , 10 people came Nice , when you're used to rapping in front of the mirror or whatever it is . So I don't know .

Speaker 1

Belief's a strange thing because it makes you wonder what would have happened if you went in a different direction . What would you have accomplished ? What would you not have accomplished ? Belief's a weird thing . Belief's a very strange . It's a drug in a way . It's a drug in a way , not a bad drug . But when you , when you look back and say , oh , my goodness , I definitely I could have done way better at that than I did the whole fire department thing for me I could have done . Really I probably could have done a really , really good job if I just had the belief that I could do a really really good job . But I didn't , so I didn't think I could do it , so I didn't do it . And it's this weird self-fulfilling prophecy . I know it sounds super simple . I used to want to be a stuntman . Back in the day , I wanted to be a wrestler in the .

Speaker 1

WWF and I wanted to be a stuntman and we used to have .

Speaker 2

Who were you going to be a stuntman for Movies ? Yeah , you gonna be a stuntman for movies . Yeah , no , I know you're gonna be like mark walberg stuntman . I could be a quick five by nine signed . Yeah , yeah , of course .

Speaker 1

Yeah , tom cruise I know tom cruise looks six , five in the movies , but that man is no more than five , six so we're gonna be just fine nice we're gonna be just fine . I don't know , I didn't have it that far fleshed out okay , well , that's probably why it didn't happen .

Speaker 2

Most likely . Yeah , I didn . Yeah , we just had the idea and left it there .

Speaker 1

Yeah , no , it was like that would be really cool . I used to say this to my friends . I remember we would do one of my buddies had a . He had a backyard that had this big rock wall and we would shovel all these leaves into a giant pile and it was probably like 15 feet . It was like a really good good , it was a good jump , nice . And I always used to say you just have to commit , because if you don't think you're gonna make the flip , you're not gonna make the flip and you're gonna land in your freaking head . You just have to commit . And that was always my hammer off .

Speaker 2

Uh , we had a over at mark's place . We used to jump off the top deck when it would be a big snowstorm . We'd make a big pile and his brothers would do double backflips off it and they were wild , they are .

Speaker 1

You've got to commit .

Speaker 2

You've got to commit . Yeah , it's a danger . We were reckless back in the day .

Speaker 1

Same . We used to ride our scooters and hit snow banks and do front flips . It was the best .

Speaker 2

I miss those times it's so there's a little piece of me that misses that recklessness .

Speaker 1

I think that's why I like grappling , because it's a little dangerous at times .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

It's very you're connected to yourself . It's just like this is me and this person , or this is me and this .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it's scary in a good way . When I was snowboarding I'll go quick with this but we used to race down Smith . You remember , at Wachusett , smithith , there's a trail called smith I , it's the one with that down the side .

Speaker 1

It's like this , really steep part wachusett was below me , I went to mount sunopee that's where I went .

Speaker 2

It was below you . It's actually a mountain , so it's a little above five , six kev excuse me , you want to call that a mountain , you can ?

Speaker 1

Geographically , I think it's barely a mountain , the first the place I learned to snowboard was Whiteface Mountain in New York , where they had the Olympics one year . That's where I learned to snowboard . It was the worst idea ever of all time , ever of all time we used to go to Sugarlo .

Speaker 2

A guy named Derek , my mom , a guy named Derek , my mom's friend Tammy . They have a condo there and we would go there . They call it One Big Mother . That's where she ran into Southwest Scott . They do the Olympics there all the time .

Speaker 2

This mountain's huge up in Maine and there's a sign that literally says if you pass this point , it's an open trail . By the way , this is not like going past the . If you go past this point , fall to your death at your own risk . And no snowboarders ever did it , it was always skiers and I did it . I was like screw it . But we were reckless , dude . Honestly , back in the day I was reckless , dude . I didn't understand how reckless I was . I don't know if it was significance or trauma or numbing whatever , but it's . I look back and snowmobiles and snowboarding and back . I mean I used to do double , double backflips on the trampoline . We used to play mortal combat and just fight each other and I got drop kicked off the trampoline and then got back on , got drop kicked again off the trampoline , got back on one last drop kick and then I stayed down after that . But , dude , I just didn't understand that that's not necessarily normal .

Speaker 1

I don't know . I feel like it is when you're a kid .

Speaker 2

Mark and I . Well , of course , you would think that All the kids I hung out with did it . We also grew up in a town of reckless individuals . For sure Mark's older brothers would play Mortal Kombat and they would just beat the hell out of them and I remember I used to buy .

Speaker 1

There was a buddy I boxed with and we just put socks on our hands . That's what we boxed socks .

Speaker 2

I remember I knocked him out and I'll never forget it was in his nice boxing gloves .

Speaker 1

It was just a one pair of socks , not even fuzzy socks , just regular , just lightweight socks . Yeah , yeah , and it was like let's see who does better , and it was me .

Speaker 2

I got to say something real quick for the listeners out there . We do have to hop here in a minute . We got to go ? Yeah , I do . I do think , because you started this episode with something productive and it was about success versus sustaining success , and I do think it's important for us . I do feel a responsibility to share this with everybody .

Speaker 1

Kevin and .

Speaker 2

I have been reckless , oh yeah , like where we've gotten is not normal , and I mean it is reckless to leave a job making almost $200,000 a year . It is reckless to just quit your job on a whim and start a podcast .

Speaker 1

I do not suggest it .

Speaker 2

Yeah you and I didn't have a backup plan . I mean , I literally turned down a million dollars of potential investment while I was broke . I I turned down a half a million dollar per year job with like stock options and all kinds of stuff . Vp of sales , I left an interview at spacex . I never thought this was weird until you started telling me these things are weird , because to me it was just like of course I'm not gonna . Whatever , I got my family's in trouble , I'm gonna go help my family , whatever I'll just spacex is always gonna be there . So , whatever , kevin and I went through my linkedin dms to try to find the messages because one of our the older class above us , one of the brothers of one of my close friends , went to SpaceX when I was in LA . But now that SpaceX is Falcon 9 and Starlink and all this stuff , I do have that moment of that's so interesting , how that's like a dream job for other people and I was like , no , I'm not even going to go . It's just weird and I feel like that might sound maybe cringeworthy to people . But my point of that whole thing is we want you to shoot for what you're supposed to shoot for . It's probably more than you think Like . Don't underestimate your possibilities long term . And this is what I'll end with .

Speaker 2

There's a book called the Art of Impossible by Stephen Collar . We interviewed him . It's an awesome book and it just talks about the neurobiology of what achievement actually is and how it actually works . None of this fluffy feel-good stuff achievement actually is and how it actually works none of this fluffy feel-good stuff . And he says very little is impossible given a decade of dedicated work . Now , some things are impossible even in 50 years , seriously , but the that's one sentence . That sounds cool . But you still have to do the decade of dedicated work every single day . And I was thinking about it recently because Kevin and I got on here this morning and the treadmill has been speeding up , not necessarily slowing down , and I'm really grateful . I wake up and this is a dream come true . A lot of this genuinely . But I'm not going to lie .

Speaker 2

I looked at my calendar . Yesterday I was on a coaching session and someone said to me Nicole on the team showed it to Nicole . She said do you want me to move this session Because you have back-to-backs every Wednesday ? And I just feel bad . And I had this honest conversation with her . I pull up my calendar . I showed her .

Speaker 2

I said listen , I want to work Monday through Saturday , from 11 to seven , forever , back-to-backs . This is what I want , and I want back to back forever , six days a week , always . Maybe I'll do 12 to seven or 10 to six one day , but I'm not going to close it much more than that . I said this is my service window . I'm actually trying to maximize here . I'm not trying to do less . I'm trying to maximize my potential and the impact that I can have in the world . And so she was so sweet . I appreciate that . But what I want to share with everybody is figure out what it is that you actually want to do . What is the lifestyle that you want ? Because if you do not want to work six days a week , do not try to do what Kevin and I are doing . I never used to understand that . I never used to get that . Not everyone wants to work six days a week .

Speaker 1

Well , you used to say you can't want the result without the process . I actually used to think that you can want the result without the process . I think a lot of people do , because they don't understand the process , that's all .

Speaker 2

It's just a misconception . Well , I think we can help them understand that , especially you who didn't understand the process and you wouldn't go back .

Speaker 1

But , dude , would you have done this if you knew what it was going to take ? I do not know if , if you laid it out and said this is what the next , however , many years are going to look like .

Speaker 2

I don't know if I'd do it genuinely I still would because I did kind of know that it would be like this but I think that's important for you to share stuff like that , kev , because you have a different perspective than I do yeah , well , the the thing I would end with is decide what you're willing to do and what you're not willing to do for your goals and your dreams .

Speaker 1

That's one of the things that I think if we started crystal clear . On that I was reflecting and I got to get you off here because you got an interview , but we were five minutes out from an interview with somebody that has over a million followers and we saw content that we just it was like , nah , this isn't it , and we canned it . When was the last time we ever had a guest scheduled us ? Not having guests is hurting us a thousand percent , but it's just . I don't want to do it that way . Alan doesn't want to do it that way .

Speaker 1

We had that conversation of look , it might take longer to get quote-unquote success , but I'd rather do it in an aligned way . So my next level nugget for each and every one of you out there would be make sure you're doing it in the aligned way , because one surefire way to build regret is to get success in ways that you do not want to A thousand percent . It might seem good , but I'm willing to bet you'll regret it . Okay , join Next Level Nation if you haven't yet Dreamliner , all that happy jazz . Alan has blogs , alan does coaching , I do podcast coaching all that happy jazz . We don't know what we're doing for tomorrow's episode because we wanted to make sure we put as much time into this one , so we will figure that out , but hopefully it will be somewhat valuable and maybe we'll talk about snowboarding and fighting with socks . As always , we love you , we appreciate you , grateful for each and every one of you , and at NLU we don't have fans , we have family . We will talk to you all tomorrow .

Speaker 2

Keep it on your own unique flavor of success . Thanks , Civil Nation .

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