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#1695 - 2 Reasons Why Your Financial Situation Isn’t Changing

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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In this episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros discuss realistically growing your money. They remind us that getting good with money isn’t a quick race but more like a long, careful run. Learning about cash involves moments of understanding yourself better and learning valuable tips. They share stories from their own lives and from people they’ve helped, showing how important it is to keep learning and practicing to take charge of your financial future.

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Show notes:
(3:39) How many books?
(4:24) These 2 reasons...
(9:05) Too little, too much
(11:40) More awareness, more opportunity
(15:22) At NLU, we want you to win, so we’re providing tools and resources to ensure your success. Join our Monthly Meet-up every first Thursday of the month at 5 PM. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/monthly-meetups/
(17:17) A great place to start
(21:28) Why self-awareness is

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Speaker 1

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed as Alan gulps his drink audibly. We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode, episode number 1,694,. What If you Don't Actually Want what you Think you Want Today? For episode number 1,695, two reasons why your financial situation isn't changing.

Speaker 1

So last Thursday we had a meetup and we talked about how to level up your finances and it was good. It was a really good. It was really good. We got really good feedback from everybody in the room. Amy gave us really great feedback. After Amy on the team and Alan and I felt really really good about the entire thing Tons of engagement, great stories, great lessons, great examples. But one of the things that really stood out at the end was people were asking what books do you suggest for somebody who's new to reading books about finances? And that's something that you brought up before. You said I mean this kindly, I don't mean this from a negative standpoint, but how many of us in here have actually read books on finances and how many have we read? And it was more of a what's the word I'm looking for? Rhetorical. Rhetorical question. Very nice, nice. Usually I miss when you that's from the word I'm looking for Rhetorical Rhetorical question.

Speaker 2

Very nice, nice.

Speaker 1

Usually I miss when you-.

Speaker 2

That's from the word rhetoric, I believe Strong work. Yeah, usually I miss when you are looking for a word.

Speaker 1

Well, it's understandable, because I have no idea how to lead you to the word I'm trying to find because I can't think of anything about it.

Speaker 2

Lately I've been successful to find, because I can't think of anything about it. Lately I've been successful. Yeah, post-meetup, you, amy and myself do a little experience review and you couldn't think of a word then as well, and I thought of the right word, so I'm doing well. I think I'm three times coming off of four L's in a row.

Speaker 1

Well, I'm sure I'll probably drop the ball again and you'll have another chance. I'm hoping To win our W. So Alan said rhetorically Nice.

Speaker 1

From rhetoric. That's where it comes from. Probably Greek, if I had to guess. Maybe I don't know Language of origin, I'm not really sure about it.

Speaker 1

Rhetorical question how many of us have read books on finances and how many have we read? Because why are we expecting to be really really good at something if we haven't studied it before? It's understandable why a lot of us aren't great with finances because most of us weren't taught anything about it. It's understandable why relationships can be really really hard because a lot of us were never taught anything about them and if we were taught about them, they were from people who didn't know what the heck they were talking about in the first place.

Speaker 1

Maybe you struggle with fitness because you've never really learned about it and there's so much information out there that you don't really know what to sift through and what to actually practice. So, upon reviewing our meetup, we said I think that would make for a really good episode if we sat down and talked about why are the two reasons that the financial situations aren't changing? One is maybe you haven't studied it yet. Maybe this sounds super elementary, it sounds too simple, but I've met a lot of people I've worked with business owners who have never read a book on business I've worked with. I couldn't tell you how many podcasters I've worked with who have never read a book on podcasting or speaking that's why we got to get your book out there aren't a lot of books.

How many books?

Speaker 1

That's true, that is, there aren't a lot of books on podcasting or I could say people haven't listened to podcasts. About podcasts right, that's another example. They're not a ton, but there are some out there well, if only there was a podcast about how to grow your podcast you podcast growth universities yeah, that's one nice, it's my.

Speaker 2

What do you think of it?

Speaker 1

I think it's great. Nice, yeah, I think it's great. I've got a couple, uh, zero star reviews or one star reviews.

Speaker 2

I don't know who those people are really yeah, I just don yeah, I just don't think they like me very much. That hurts, it does it hurts me tremendously. Over at Conscious Couples Podcast we got some big L reviews.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's like, let's put myself out there. You know what I mean. I'm just trying to put myself out there.

These 2 reasons...

Speaker 1

You know, maybe I said something wrong. I don't like me, who knows. So that's one point. One we're not studying the thing that we want to learn more about Understandable. I completely understand this because for most of my life I would get negative, I would have negative experiences with something and then in my mind it was like, okay, it was just that person, it was just a situation. When I get more blank, that'll change. When I get more money, this problem will solve itself. When I get a new partner, this problem will solve itself.

Speaker 1

That never happened, because that wasn't the problem in the first place. The problem was lack of knowledge. The problem was lack of principles. So that's one One. We're not learning about the thing that we're struggling in Understandable. So that's one One. We're not learning about the thing that we're struggling in Understandable. Number two is we're learning so much about what we're struggling with that we don't put anything into practice. And we talked about this recently from a 30,000 foot view.

Speaker 1

But if you think about it, maybe you do listen to podcasts about finances or you read books about finances or whatever it may be, but then after that you don't do the necessary thing to fix the situation. You can very easily listen to a podcast about relationships. We've talked many times about check-ins and questions and all that stuff, but if you don't do anything after you learn it, that knowledge is just potential and it's great. It's great to have potential, but if you don't practice it, nothing's going to change. So from my perspective, alan and I'm curious to yours obviously those are, I think, the two simplest reasons why your financial situation slash. Any situation you're struggling with isn't changing.

Speaker 2

Well, on one end of the spectrum it's too little. Is that song too little, too late?

Speaker 1

It's just a little too late, is that JoJo? It's just too little, too late. Yeah, jojo, real quick. I believe, born and raised in Massachusetts. Really, jojo was on an episode of MTV Cribs when I believe she was like 14 years old. I'll have you know that MTV Cribs, when I believe she was like 14 years old, I'll have you know that MTV Cribs made her like rent some other house. Like that's not even MTV Cribs, that whole show was fake. Most of those houses were not even their houses. Really, yeah, yeah, that whole thing was. Look it up.

Speaker 1

How depressing is that you remember, you remember Pimp my Ride? Remember that show? Um, somebody would roll in for anybody who hasn't seen it. Somebody would roll in with like a 1992 honda civic that barely ran and they said you know what we're gonna do? We got you. Uh, we're gonna put a popcorn machine in your trunk, baby, and we're gonna put a fish tank up front, and you're gonna be good good.

Speaker 2

What a dumb show. And a PlayStation and a PlayStation Two in the back.

Speaker 1

Your car doesn't run, but you do have a fish tank and now you have responsibilities.

Speaker 2

Is that true about MTV Cribs?

Speaker 1

Yeah, and most of the show, yeah, yeah, most of that stuff was all, yeah, most TV is completely fabricated.

Speaker 2

As a matter of fact, most podcasts are too everything it's. It's worse than we thought. It is what it is. Nlu will always work very, very hard to be as transparent and truthful and honest and integrous as humanly possible. Integrous is, I think, a word that represents integrity. I'm not sure I've been using it for years.

Speaker 2

Okay, so on one end you have too little, which is why jojo came up. You have little meaning. You're not learning enough about finance, about money, about abundance versus scarcity, about what to do with it, how to earn more, what to do with your money, where to invest it. It's too little on one end. The other end is too much. You're just learning, learning, learning, but not implementing, and you're overwhelmed. Not only that, but your brain is confused. But not implementing, and you're overwhelmed. Not only that, but your brain is confused.

Speaker 2

I often tell my clients I'll send them a training. I sent to book club recently. I sent three speeches. One is a James Clear speech, one is a Bob Proctor speech about money, and then one other one. I'm honestly forgetting which one, but afterwards I say this is what I was referring to on book club, and I've watched these dozens of times and I think people's reaction to that might be number one. Why are you watching the same thing over and over again?

Too little, too much

Speaker 2

For me, I've been combing the internet for what I think is the most valuable content, and I have a playlist on my youtube. You can go to my youtube. This is Alan Lazararus youtube, by the way, not next level university youtube and I have a playlist that's public. It's called mindset workout, I think, and it has all of my saved videos motivational videos, ted talks, commencement speeches, all the best content that I could find.

Speaker 2

That I think is the most valuable, because when, when I'm behind the scenes, I need to learn, and I don't want to learn new stuff all the time, and so, for me, I've been guilty of the too much, where you're reading every finance book and it just gets confusing and overwhelming and you don't implement it. But I've also been on the other end, prior to 26 years old, where I wasn't reading enough. And so figure out where you are in this episode. Are you learning too much and you're constantly listening but not acting, or reading and not acting, or are you just not? You've just never studied finance. And if you want to study finance or anything health, wealth, life or love by the way, we're actually creating a book list at NLU where we have recommended life, love, health and wealth books coming.

Speaker 1

We should really do that with our podcast episode. We were for a while, and I think we stopped on YouTube, maybe we'll get back.

Speaker 2

Jerrianne for a while had that list. Nicole is actually doing it still. She's putting it in life love, health and wealth. Most of them end up in life because you and I love talking about life.

Speaker 1

It is fair, it is fair. You and I love talking about life. It is fair, it is fair. This is one of the reasons why the I'll do it when doesn't really work, because if you don't know how to do it now, you probably don't know how to do it then. I don't mean that from a negative, you don't know what you're doing, just the. It's the lottery thing. If somebody wins the lottery and they have no understanding of how to actually make that amount of money, they're most likely going to lose it because they don't understand the principles. It's just the principle of.

Speaker 1

Another great thought behind this is we've all heard the quote the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. I think one of the reasons that the quote-unquote rich get richer is when you start to make money and you're more intentional about how you make money. Then you know how to make more money with that money need and what foods do what to you and the way you feel and all that. It's a lot easier to use food as a tool where you're in more control of it. So, yeah, you might see someone eating a pizza and say, wait, there's no way that person can eat a pizza and lose weight. That's just not true. That person has been doing it for a long enough time where they know how many calories they need. So as you get more awareness in something, I think you get more opportunity.

More awareness, more opportunit

Speaker 1

But it's very, very hard in the very beginning to get the awareness and then practice it, because you usually don't see anything right off the bat, especially with money. If you're someone who you're barely scraping by, when you get to the end of the month, you barely have enough money to get by. A principle that you learn might not show itself for months and months, and months and months. Or if you're investing money, you might not see anything for months and months, and months and months, and that's why one of the reasons or that's one of the reasons it's so hard.

Speaker 1

Yeah, most likely years actually, I had a moment where I was reviewing one of our episodes and you were talking about how somebody went from six grand a month to I think it was, 24 or 25, 30 grand a month 30 when they were working with you, and you said it only, it was only over the course of a year, I think.

Speaker 1

You said yeah and I remember thinking to myself I know that's not a long time, but I know if I heard that six years ago I would have said that's a long time. That took like a really really really long time, yeah that's unthinkable growth.

Speaker 2

That's it's very good. You don't I mean who. I just want to break this down for everybody because you make a good point. How ignorant am I when I say things uh, it's so, that's like really fast. I'm gonna stop saying like so much 6 to 30, that's a 5x you, 5x your money in a single year.

Speaker 2

That's insane yeah, yeah that's wild, and that's per month, by the way. So that's. It's not like you're going from 6 to 30 a year. That's per month. So yeah, no one 5x's their income in a single year. That's insanity. It's very fast. It's very fast. Imagine if you and I 5Xed our income this year. We would be a $10 million business, but even if We'd be a $5 million business, but you know what I'm saying, even if $200 gazillion trillion bazillion, Exactly, 200 gazillion trillion bazillion, Exactly.

Speaker 1

Depending on what your level of understanding of money and growth is, you might hear that and say, well, that's not very much in that amount of time. Or you might say, oh my goodness, that's like amazing. Yeah, I can't imagine that. All based on your awareness. It's all based on awareness.

Speaker 2

Can you unpack? Why the old? You would have thought that took a long time.

Speaker 1

Because everybody else is telling me they can do that for me in a month. Why'd it take you a year? You son of a gun? Oh God, I think it's just that. And again, I know we've been very outwardly expressive of our frustration when people lie and manipulate and I'm not saying it's like an us against them thing, I'm not saying that. I've just seen so many people get taken advantage of and I just don't want you to get taken advantage of. There's a reason we don't have a $10,000 course that's about how to make $10,000 this week. It doesn't. It's not real. It's that's just not real. So, yeah, I think it's that One of our clients at NLPS is.

Speaker 1

I don't know what her actual title is, but she's in the health space and she got an award that essentially said she is the best in the world at what she does, and one of the things that she is super passionate about is being truthful with what it actually takes to achieve a certain level of results, and she's ultimately trying to help people raise their awareness to what's. Now it's harder than ever because it's not like you just have to get your awareness raised to what works. You have to get your awareness raised to all the bs. That doesn't work too.

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Speaker 1

Yeah, there's not just one book, that takes a lot longer, unfortunately, but I think when you start at least you. This is the best thing I can say. Anytime, I've learned something and I tried to practice it pretty quickly and it felt good. I felt like, wow, I'm actually making progress on this. I feel like I'm really intentional with the way I'm doing this. That's a great place to start and you get that little hit of okay, I'm doing something in the direction of my goals, awesome. Let me see how this progresses.

Speaker 1

We did the episode recently where we talked about awareness and then practice awareness and then practice. This is very similar to that. It's the same principle. We did the episode recently where we talked about awareness and then practice awareness and then practice. This is very similar to that. It's the same principle.

Speaker 1

But if your financial situation isn't changing, is it because you're not practicing the knowledge that you have, or are you on the outer limits of the knowledge you have? And it's just now? It's time for new knowledge. We need to retool. We need to go back and retool. That's my takeaway from this episode. I'm not saying it's going to be that simple, because there's a lot to learn, but if you do not have a result in a certain arena, my question would be how often have you studied that arena? And if you haven't studied it, why do you expect to be successful there? Not from a negative talked-down-to-you place, but I'm as guilty as anyone. When I was the brokest ever, that's when I started learning about money. But before that I never did and I never, ever, ever felt in control of my money. I never felt super in control of my relationships. Why did I feel good when it came to my body? Because I had been studying fitness for a long time. I was a personal trainer, I took the exams, I studied, I read textbooks.

Speaker 2

That's one of the reasons.

A great place to start

Speaker 1

NASM, nasm, yes, nasm. I was terrified. I was going to fail that test. Terrified, I don't know if I crushed it, I passed it One of my clients just passed the California bar. I messaged that person today. I was talking to that person today in my DMs.

Speaker 2

I said to him most people who pass the California bar, statistically I think, are most likely younger. He's in his 40s. He's got kids. I said that is unbelievable. I said, arguably, you just passed the hardest test on planet Earth. How cool is that?

Speaker 1

It's one of the hardest in the world, in the entire world.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's huge, anyways, but I also witnessed, behind the scenes witnessed. I wasn't there with him, but I witnessed him studying three hours a day for months and months and months. Three hours a day. See how easy it is to say that.

Speaker 2

Imagine sitting down and studying law for three hours a day. Seriously, no, three hours straight. And that's after your full-time job, after kids and family, after working out. He's a triathlete, he. Afterwards he said I honestly don't even know how I did it like this. I, that was insane, I insane. I said, yep, that was insane, and I knew you couldn't sustain it. And then he went off the rails for a little bit afterwards and I said we got to rein you back in. We got to rein you back in Cause that was too much Understandable, we all have chapters with too much, but then we go to too little.

Speaker 2

So you got to try to find five. Last thing Kev, financially. So this is about you're either learning finance too little or learning finance too much. I think that applies to pretty much everything For you. I will never forget the day that you came into Our studio at the time, which was my sister's old bedroom, and you Kind of sat me down for lack of better phrasing in front of the whiteboard. We had this little kind of crappy whiteboard back then and you're like dude, I don't have any money. How do I make money? Can you explain why it took you so long to get to that place? Because right after that you started making money. You started coaching. You started making 50 bucks a week, then it was 75. Again, it starts small, but you started making money and that's a big deal. As a new coach, making money, coaching is a big deal.

Speaker 1

That's a big milestone. I went from $0 to $50 a week.

Speaker 2

That was huge $50 an hour technically, which is again one hour a week to start.

Speaker 1

Why didn't it happen sooner? I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know how to do it. Somebody asked me the other day. They said if you could make it, if you could sell me on why self-awareness is so important. What would you say? And I said geez. I said I want you to imagine that you're taking a trip across the country. You get in your car and you get an hour and a half away from your house and then your car breaks down and you have no idea how to fix it. You don't know what's under the hood, you don't know why it's smoking. You have no idea how to fix it. How confident are you that you're going to get to your destination? And the host said zero. And I said that's self-awareness. The reason you don't know if you're going to make it to the destination is because you're not aware of the vehicle. You don't know how to fix it. Why do we bring our cars to mechanics?

Speaker 2

Because we don't have the awareness to fix it. The car in this metaphor is self.

Speaker 1

The car in this metaphor is self. You are the car. So it's the same thing when it comes to making money, saving money, health, wealth, life, love, all of that. It's usually a gap in awareness. I had no idea, I didn't know where to start. I was very aware of the problem, very aware of the problem. I don't have any money. I had no idea what the solution was, zero idea because I hadn't studied it yet. I thought time why did it take you so long to?

Speaker 2

ask Because I think that's the part people struggle with is the courage to be a student.

Why self-awareness is so important?

Speaker 1

I thought it was going to change. I thought time would change it For some reason. I just assumed well, it's too soon, it's not time yet, it'll happen. It'll happen eventually. I think I was naive to a degree. I think I was naive. I also came off of making six figures, and maybe I assumed I knew how I did that more than I did, because I didn't really know what I was doing. So I think it was just lack of awareness, and then maybe the pain got great enough. Maybe the pain got great enough. Maybe the pain got great enough. That's. The hard thing, though, is if it takes us getting to the stage where the pain is great enough for us to do something different, the problem is you're not going to see any results for several months after, or years, or however long until after you get the pain, get the new awareness, and then, eventually, you get results. So I would say do it as soon as you can.

Speaker 2

You ever hear the? You and I used to talk about this on the Hyperconscious podcast all the time, when the pain of not taking action is greater than the pain of taking action, you'll do it.

Speaker 2

I always used to use a haircut as an analogy. When your hair is long enough and it looks terrible, you get a haircut. Why didn't you do it before that? Because the pain wasn't great enough for the money and the time and the driving there and all that. So you kind of have to get leverage on yourself, and I was talking to kev about this earlier. How do we stay productively paranoid in the short, short term, the short term in the short term, so that we give ourselves the pain on the day-to-day, so that we don't get a whopping amount of pain at the end, instead of having that massively painful moment on the beach when you take your shirt off or you get in a bathing suit, take a little bit of pain each day to exercise. And again, that's the analogy for everything. So finance books are boring.

Speaker 2

I think it's empowering to say that Finance books are boring. They're always going to be boring, it's okay, do it anyway. I think I'd rather tell you the truth. I've read dozens of finance books. At this point, none of them were enjoyable Genuinely, I think they all kind of suck, but they're worth it. Genuinely, I think they all kind of suck, but they're worth it, and most of the things in life that actually help you achieve your goals and dreams kind of suck, and I think that that's very empowering to own that, because if you go into these books thinking they're going to be fun, you're going to shut them off in 10 minutes, assuming it's an audiobook, or or you're going to assuming it's an audiobook, or or you're gonna put them down in 10 minutes of reading an actual chapter. I'm shocked at how well the psychology of money is doing in book club, because I thought that book was going to be crickets.

Do it anyway; they're worth it

Speaker 2

I love that book, but I say that with a grain of salt because it's boring. I I listened to it today. I didn't really want to, to be honest, I didn't really want to. I just knew that I'd regret it if I didn't. Why? Because it would be Friday night and I'd have to prep for book club. So here it is, on Monday, and I'm like you know what? Just do it, alan, just put it on.

Speaker 1

Aren't all books boring? Yeah, really Kind of.

Speaker 2

Aren't most self-improvement books just kind of boring?

Speaker 1

yes, of course they are everything's going to be more boring than game of thrones or whatever.

Speaker 2

Insert breaking bad. Yeah, whatever it is for you, yeah, so show of all time breaking bad. I could not disagree. I disagree.

Speaker 1

That's a hill. That's a hill I'm willing to die on, son. No dragons, no people riding around on dragons and shit. It's real. Just a meth-dealing science teacher who doesn't want to watch a show about that.

Speaker 2

Damn. Do you know what I mean? There's a lot of good shows out there. Man, I wouldn't die on the hill of Breaking Bad.

Speaker 1

I'm going to anybody listening. No, this is a dangerous game because I'll probably get outvoted here. But Breaking Bad is better. I think it is that that is one of those shows that changed me. When I got to the end of that, I was like I am changed because of the performance of brian cranston. I'm talking about a great actor. Oh my goodness I'm glad.

Speaker 2

I'm glad the meth dealing science teacher had such a big impact on you huge, huge. But seriously, as we jump here, I do believe that most of the things that are best for you are boring, but if you do them and you discipline yourself to do them, your life will be better. And I just don't believe in this fluffy fairytale land where you're going to wake up and want to read. I studied math and chemistry yesterday and I fell asleep right in the middle of the chemistry book. But at the end of the day, I understand the scientific method. I understand.

Speaker 2

I use mathematics every day in business. Half the business owners that I coach my youngest is 18, my oldest is 63, 23 people on my roster. Most of the time, I'm just teaching them fundamental mathematic concepts. You're already great at what you do. You just don't know how to grow and scale a business online. So let me help you with that and I keep you on the rails on what that takes. If you don't track finances daily as a business owner, you are in trouble, and that's the facts. And so we just we keep it real at NLU and keep it real at nlu and keep it real yeah, I.

Speaker 2

I think it's empowering to say these books are boring and that's okay, I'm gonna do it anyway and breaking bad is the best show of all time well, what I disagree, we can agree disagree no, no, I said my thing last, so I win real quick two top two books for finances.

Speaker 1

Okay now, quick I mean when I. When I say quick, I mean quick real quick, real quick.

Speaker 2

The first one is going to be the psychology of money by morgan housel m-o-r-g-a-n-h-o-u-s-e-L. Morgan Household, and we're reading it in Book Club. So the registration link for Book Club will be in the show notes. Please register. I just had one of my RTC clients register yesterday, which I'm pumped about. And then the second one is even. It's just the most boring book ever but it's so good.

Speaker 1

Brian Tracy, my man, Brian.

Speaker 2

Brian knew the fundamentals man Telling you he is still with us, Is he?

Speaker 1

Yeah, Brian Tracy's still walking.

Speaker 2

I think he's 90 now. Yeah, he's up there. He just crossed 90. Good for him. The science of money I sent it to book club earlier. Hold on. I know you said quick Hold on.

Speaker 1

I expected this. That's what you get for asking the question. I know.

Speaker 2

Hold on hold on hold on.

Speaker 1

I figured it would be valuable. You know it is. What do you do? You write in the book or what? What are we doing?

Speaker 2

Almost there, I promise.

Speaker 1

I don't believe you at all.

Speaker 2

Here we go. Here it is the Science of Money how to Increase your Income and Become Wealthy. Brian Tracy Okay, very boring, very, very, very strong. It's all principle-based. These are strong principles and it's no fluff, it's good stuff.

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Speaker 1

All right, strong work, strong work, all right. Next, all the nation. If you want to dive deeper into money, as Alan mentioned, book club. If you want to dive deeper into money, as Alan mentioned, book club. We're talking about money. I'm not there. Alan is there Every Saturday, 1230 Eastern Standard Time for an hour. You do not have to have read the book, you can just join for the conversation if you want. You don't even have to participate, you can be on with your camera off and your mic off if you want.

Speaker 1

Maybe a good opportunity to dip your toe deeper into NLU. And if you are looking for a group of like-minded humans who are into self-improvement, growth and next-levelness, we'll have our link to our private Facebook group Next Level Nation in the show notes below Tomorrow, for episode number 1,696,. This is something that I never knew existed the fear of success versus the fear of failure. I assumed that everybody was afraid of failure, because I thought everybody wanted to do this for their own version of success, and I think everybody does. But sometimes we self-sabotage our success in ways that we don't realize because we're actually afraid of it deep down. So we're gonna talk about that tomorrow. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.

Speaker 2

Keep on those positive money habits. Next level nation.

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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