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#1698 - Accuracy Is Everything - Freestyle Friday

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In today’s episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros discuss how choices can significantly impact who we become. We might picture something that never changes when we think about who we are. But in truth, who we are constantly changes, growing as we learn and experience new things. These changes in who we are can help us grow in unique ways. Emotions play a critical role in our lives, and we must balance them with rationality to make sound decisions that resonate with our true selves. This delicate dance between the heart and mind shapes a more authentic self-image and, ultimately, a more genuine life path.

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Show notes:
(2:17) Growing through
(4:41) Objective truth
(12:27) Why accurate thinking is essential?
(18:56) Scientific method
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Kevin

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode, episode number 1697,. The monster in the closet isn't actually a monster, unless it's a shark. And then it is Today for episode number 1698. Or a snapping turtle or a snapping turtle. It is Freestyle Friday. Do I have anything on my mind for Freestyle Friday? Not really, and the reasoning behind it is we are doing 14 episodes today as of the day of recording this, so all of my ideas are out on paper and they have been created as future episodes.

Kevin

One thing that I am growing through is, as you have heard, alan and I are trying to figure out who we are always, and I think we're kind of always going through that. I don't think having an identity crisis is a bad thing anymore. I used to think it was. I used to think it was indicative of something negative. Now I think I don't know. I don't really think it's a bad thing, because it probably means that you're growing or you're valuing things differently or things are changing, and I don't think that's a bad thing anymore. What are your thoughts? Things?

Kevin

differently or things are changing and I don't think that's a bad thing anymore.

Alan

What are your thoughts? Well here's a question Can you grow and evolve without an identity crisis of?

Kevin

some kind. Maybe it doesn't have to be a crisis, but Identity challenge? Yeah, probably not, because when you grow and evolve, your identity has to catch up to the new person you're becoming.

Alan

Mm-hmm.

Kevin

As long as it's going in the right way, can we talk?

Alan

about. Why does it even matter Never?

Kevin

No, can't talk about it.

Growing through

Alan

When you said you don't know what you want to talk about or what you're going through or growing through, one of the episodes we wanted to do on the lineup of the 14 episodes and for all the listeners on this journey with us. For a long time you've seen us grow and evolve over the years. Particularly lately, we've been very much leaning into who we really are. That's why we had that healthy discord on the last episode about rationality and numbers versus emotion. And how do you sync them up? Do you? We all have both. How do you know when to let emotion drive, when to let rationality drive?

Alan

And we did a monthly meetup recently where we had a pendulum on the canvas slide and it was about money and on the far right of the pendulum was emotional decisions and on the far left was rational decisions or logical decisions and how we think optimal is actually in the middle. You can't be a robot, nor should you. It's a good way to have terrible relationships, wildly emotional about every decision, because then you're going to be very irrational and then you're going to let your more primitive motives drive, and then at the expense of your own future. So when I said can we talk about this in our 14 episode lineup, one of the things that I wanted to talk about that didn't make the cut was how dare you take the behind the scenes and bring them to the front?

Kevin

I always do.

Alan

Is why does it matter to think accurately about yourself? You had a really cool analogy two episodes ago, or three episodes ago, where you talked about how a client asked you hey, kev, why does self-awareness matter? It wasn't a client, a podcast, maybe. Podcast, yeah yeah. And you said imagine you're trying to get to a destination and your car breaks down and you don't know how to fix it. That's kind of like trying to get to your goals and dreams without knowing how you work and why you work that way.

Alan

So if you know how a car works and why it works that way, you can fix it, assuming you have the resources. So if you know how a car works and why it works that way, you can fix it, assuming you have the resources. And I think that that metaphor is excellent. I think it's incomplete. And the reason if you're on YouTube, you see Kevin's reaction. It's so funny. Oh, it's incomplete.

Alan

I think you have to be accurate about three things. I've talked about this before. You have to be accurate about self, accurate about human beings and accurate about the world. You have to know how you work and why you work that way. You have to know how human beings work and why they work that way. And then you have to know how the world works and why it works that way, and so in my coaching, I'm always trying to assess which one's the bottleneck.

Objective truth

Alan

So for you, kev, you knew yourself pretty well and you knew human beings pretty well even better than me in many cases, to be honest but you didn't know how the world worked. You didn't understand how companies ran and what P&L statements are and how the economy runs and all that kind of stuff. So for you, we had to go to work on that part, and for me I didn't understand how other people, other people's perception I didn't understand very well, and then myself as well. So for me it was inner, for you it was inner, for you it was outer. Obviously it was both, it was both.

Alan

So the episode essentially is why does accurate thinking actually matter? Because that's all we're ever doing. Every discord you've ever heard or debate you've ever heard on this podcast between Kevin and I has been sharp minds, sharpen one another. I ask Kevin something and get his perspective, he asks me something and gets my perspective, and then we both see something more accurately than we did before, and hopefully all the listeners do too. I mean, that's the whole point of this right. But why, why does that matter, you're telling me.

Kevin

I got a sharp sword. That's kind of you.

Alan

Yes, sure For sure, Sharp mind, sharp mind.

Kevin

Sure or for sure. Because you said sure quite dismissing, that dismissively, dismissively. First, which one is it sir?

Alan

yes, for sure, sharp minds sharpen one another I don't believe you.

Kevin

You're unbelievable and you winked at me. He winked at me. Don't patronize me. I know, I know.

Alan

Of course, I think that, trust me, I would not be able to be on this podcast with you for 1,700 episodes if I didn't think that you were intelligent. You're far more intelligent than you ever gave yourself credit for I appreciate that. That is my truth.

Kevin

I appreciate that very much Now are you the smartest person on planet Earth? Yes, also that. Yes, I been after. That's what I've been after. I wanted to turn the lights off for Freestyle Friday, but I didn't do it. I'm sillier on Freestyle Friday. I like it. I like Freestyle Friday.

Alan

All right.

Kevin

What was the?

Alan

question why is accuracy important? Yeah, I often joke with my clients. I say everyone says I created a core value of mine called candor, and I define them. They're all my desktop background. I've changed them several times. Again, speaking of identity changes, I keep changing and evolving as I grow, and candor is my third one. As a matter of fact, let me move my stream yard for a second here.

Alan

Okay, candor, a deep belief in the constant pursuit and expression of objective truth. And so a lot of people talk about their truth standing in your truth. That's what vulnerability is, that's what authenticity is, that's what integrity is. But there is an objective truth, whether you.

Alan

I remember one time I was with Emilia and she's like well, everyone has their own truth, and I say, yeah, but there is an objective truth. She's like, well, what has their own truth? And I say, yeah, but there is an objective truth. She's like, well, what do you mean? I said how many phones are on that table? The answer was two. Or how many calculators were on that table? Or something like that. I think it was phones first, and then we went to calculators. She said, well, technically, two. And I was like what do you mean technically? And she said well, it depends how you look at it, because the iPad can act as a phone, and the iPad happened to be on the table too, so it's like no, there's only two. Now this is the. If you've ever been frustrated with an engineer everyone out there listening please think of a time when you were talking to an engineer and you just wanted to, you were frustrated.

Kevin

Hold on. When would that happen?

Alan

I think a lot of people get frustrated with engineers.

Kevin

When does a person talk to an engineer? When you're building bridges and shit on the weekend?

Alan

Call up my engineer friends and say, hey, what do you think of this? I don't know. A lot of people have relatives that are engineers.

Kevin

I have never in my life talked to an engineer other than you. Really no.

Alan

There's a lot of it.

Kevin

It engineering is a very large profession, all right I'll accept all right, but I feel, like it's like I've talked to a lot of engineers. Well, yeah, of course you have, like I've talked to a lot of podcasters, just like you talked a lot of podcast. You know what I mean?

Alan

yeah fair, fair, okay. So for anyone who has ever been frustrated talking to an engineer, engineers tend to be very rational, very literal and very direct and they think very differently. And I've been very much leaning into. Kevin and I went to an event one time and we took this personality test that I don't know how much I believe in this personality test, but it came up where I'm a mechanic, which is essentially the engineer, and the person hosting the event said just lean into it, just be yourself, lean into it. This is your superpower. And I remember thinking to myself I don't know I'm an engineer, but I am more of a people, person, than most of the engineers. I know. I know I'm supposed to be more than just an engineer. And again, this is my own identity crisis, so that's why I'm opening with it.

Alan

But if you've ever been frustrated with an engineer, one of the reasons why is because there is an objective truth. I don't really care if Kev thinks there's 40 million people in Canada. You're wrong. There's 37 million. Now here's the thing I have to ask myself why does it matter that you're accurate? Because I've been such a pain in the butt to people in my life. And I think the reason why is if you're inaccurate, then you'll make worse decisions. You have the wrong data. It's like a GPS that has the wrong data. You're going to drive into a lake and I don't want to see you drive into a lake.

Alan

Now, obviously, in the case of 40 million versus 37 million people in Canada, why does that matter? But I often use the joke of there's 110 million people not joke, but I playfully describe this there's 110 million people in the Philippines with very little land and there's 37 million people in Canada with tons of land, very little land and there's 37 million people in canada with tons of land. So you don't go to canada for a massive, huge, tremendous global economy, just like you don't go to the philippines to buy land. You go to canada to buy land. But if you don't know the data, if you don't face the objective truth, you can't make a good decision. So what I want to hear from you, kev, if you're game, is why do you think? Accurate thinking matters, because change the way you think, change the way you act, change the way you live is where the Hyperconscious Podcast was born.

Kevin

Born, raised, bred. Yeah, because if you're wrong about one thing, you're wrong about everything. Not necessarily you're completely wrong and you can't do anything, but if you're wrong about, if you're wrong about something, it opens up the door for you to do things that are just never going to help you. Ever, ever, ever there is.

Alan

You got an itchy nose over there, yeah my nose is so itchy.

Kevin

I was snuggling with Ace, so in between our episodes I went outside and Ace was waiting for me. I pick him up and he falls on my shoulder and headbutts me and kisses me.

Alan

How are you and Fudge?

Kevin

doing? Are they getting along? Yeah, fudge is on Prozac now, so he's chill, he's hanging he's much more.

Kevin

They fought the other night, but yeah, they haven't. My cats were fighting each other for some reason, I don't know why, but no, now they're good. Anxiety from the dog right, Potentially, I think it's just anxiety in general which I Fudge. I feel you dude, Been there, I've been there man. All right, Let me add some value here. Huh, I do have my cat shirt on for everybody on YouTube when I was thinking of this, when I was peeing, because I have my best thoughts when I pee for some reason might be too much information. I apologize, but it is true.

Why accurate thinking is important?

Kevin

Where, if you know more than 90% of the population, I just spit everywhere. You can mislead 90% of the population if you want, but there's always going to be 10% of the population who knows you're BSing. The problem is, if you know more than most people and they don't know you're wrong, you can really take people off the path. There are a lot of people on social media that have built careers on just misinformation In the health space, in the business space, whatever it is, in the business space, whatever it is.

Kevin

So the problem is, when you open up to something that is untrue, you go further down the path of what is untrue because you think it's not working, because you haven't found the right thing yet, when in reality you just haven't found the truth yet. That's the best example I could possibly give. Slim fast shakes are nothing special. They just are meal replacement and if they have less calories than you were going to eat in your meal and it's the right amount, you're going to lose weight. But I've been saying this for years, where I could create KevFit shakes, that they're meal replacement shakes and they're high in protein. What's?

Alan

the promo code.

Kevin

KevFit59? Kevfit KevFit 1989. Yep high in protein, and uh kevfit, kevfit, kevfit 1989, yep. Nice, 20 off with my only that code though it's not that I know anything that you don't it's that you're replacing calories with a shake instead of a steak dinner, so you're gonna lose. The truth of the matter is, slim fast is no different than these other diets, it's just, it's an equation that maybe you don't know yet. What's another good example of that? I mean, there's a million. Anything in health can be dangerous, because if people aren't telling you the truth, you're going to make a decision based on getting a result that you want, not getting it in the right way. We did an episode recently on. It was like the number one lesson that I've learned, one of the most powerful lessons I've learned from a book or something, and it was people are searching for certainty, not accuracy. Certainty of oh. That's why my relationship failed. You want to know the irony in?

Alan

that Please. The only way you get certainty is by accurate thinking.

Kevin

The only way you get true certainty? Yeah, but that's not necessarily the only way you get true certainty. Yeah, ah, but that's not necessarily. Yeah, that's harder to get. It's the same thing as ignorance is bliss Like. Well, ignorance can feel like bliss until you wake up one day and life hits you over the head with a brick and then you realize, oh my goodness, if I knew this in the past, I wouldn't have gotten to the place I'm at. Mm-hmm. The simplest answer I can give is because if you're not operating on the truth, you'll never get real, authentic results. You couldn't possibly get the same level of results because the place that you're trying to get to on the treasure map is not actually the place you're trying to get to.

Kevin

Yeah exactly, and the place you're leaving from on the treasure map is not actually the place you're trying to get to. Yeah, exactly, and the place you're trying to you're leaving from on the treasure map is not actually where you are. Yep, that, yeah, it's just.

Alan

I think it's just that imagine, kevin, and I drew every listener a map. Here's where you are, here's the treasure x marks the spot and here's the terrain mountains, lakes. You got to bring a shovel and tools and there's caves, so you need a flashlight. We give you all the tools, we give you the map. Good to go.

Alan

But what if your self-awareness is off and therefore where we thought you were is different? And what if, when you get there, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, so to speak, is actually full of your deepest fears Snakes, spiders, snapping turtles, sharks, whatever the four S's? And what if along the way, there's actually rivers, not lakes, and the river is freshwater, not saltwater, and you prepared for saltwater again? I don't know anything about any of this, but the point is that's how it feels coaching people. They come to me and they say well, I want X and I am going to do Y and Z. And I say what you think you want is X, what you actually want is Y and where you really are is Z. And if we don't adjust that, you're jeffed. And I'm not making this up, this isn't my opinion, it's based on data. So, like the scientific method is.

Alan

I've spent my entire life, particularly the last nine years, but my whole life, my whole adult life, studying human beings, studying the world and studying myself. So I just have more data. I know what works and doesn't work more when it comes to business, success, achievement, fulfillment. Why? Because I have just studied it more. I have more data. If I ran 10,000 experiments on 10,000 different people across my 35 years on this planet, I just have way more data in my GPS than you. So my map is more accurate. It's not perfect. Oh, didn't see that pothole. Oh didn't see that hill is actually a mountain and we're going to need an oxygen mask. But it doesn't mean that I don't know the map better than you and so. But it's hard to presuppose that. It's hard to presuppose that someone else knows the map better than you. And then, on top of that, there's so many people that are claiming to that don't well, I think we should just assume they don't know, but that's dangerous, because then you never get a mentor yeah, but well, prove to me why.

Kevin

Prove to me why you know what I don't know not you, but you know what I mean. I feel like I don't know. We've done so. We've done many episodes in the past of what to look for in a mentor. How do you know? And now it's harder than ever.

Alan

I know.

Kevin

It's harder than ever, because I could just go buy a social media account with 100,000 followers and I could go rent a car. And then here you go, look at how successful I am.

Alan

So many of the people that we know have done that. They've bought followers, they've bought accounts. They that we know have done that. They've bought followers, they've bought accounts, they've bought. And it's hard to know. I think, intuitively, we can tell.

Kevin

I don't know, I wonder.

Alan

This person seems a little full of it, but I've also been hoodwinked, so it's easier for me to say now.

Scientific method

Kevin

By the time you take what they teach you and then you go do it. It's so long before you realize it doesn't work, I know. And then they're on to the next, on to the next town and then, and then.

Alan

How do you know that it didn't work and you just didn't stop too soon? That's that or how do you know that you did the recipe right, so there's a lot of uncertainty amongst all this stuff. I get it. I never used to understand to the extent that I do now why it's so hard to achieve your goals. I've come to that realization of it's actually really difficult to achieve your goal because there's so much misinformation out there. Go ahead.

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Kevin

I was going to say it's different. Now too, I was going to. I went to the doctor's. What did I go to the doctor's for? I went to the doctor's for something recently and I drove by a school and I saw this really nice truck in the school and I don't know if it was student parking or faculty parking, I don't know and I had this moment where I was like now is probably the best time ever in terms of opportunity to be a high school student and I said that might be one of the kids' trucks who does content creation or is a streamer or has a social media agency or something. You can get wealthy in high school if you know what you're doing for sure. But you probably couldn't have 50 years ago, not like today. It's a great point so things are.

Kevin

Things are so different. I had that moment where I wanted to say, oh, that's probably must be their, their parents car or something, and I said no, no, no. Now they could. If they are grinding after work, after school, there's no reason you couldn't build yourself a little something. You live at home with your parents. Your expenses are very low.

Alan

Afford a thousand dollar a month car payment well, you know why too, is there's six billion people online, and you and I are going to do an episode this week there's six billion. Yeah, five billion coming up on six, yeah, my goodness. And then the Starlink stuff, with Wi-Fi being accessible globally. That's going to change things. There's 8 billion people on the planet. We just crossed 8 billion a couple months ago actually. You know what really annoyed?

Alan

me, and this is a weird me thing, let's do it. Everyone in the industry always said 7. It always bothered me we're closer to 8 than we were 7. Bothered me, we're closer to 8 than we were 7. Well, that was probably last year's data. No, not last year's last decade. I mean we crossed 7.5 billion, at least 10 years ago.

Kevin

Yeah, but you have a weird thing with numbers. You're weird. Yeah, yeah, definitely, but everyone always said 7.

Alan

I remember thinking to myself it's going to cross 8 soon, why are we still saying 7? You've got to round up after 7.5. Again, that's a weird me thing. Yeah, agreed, I'm just an engineer. I just need to make an excuse for myself. I'm an engineer. I love it.

Kevin

I don't think there's anything wrong with that. You and I have been trying to lean more and more into who we are, and that can be scary. The truth of the matter is I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I don't want to say I'm not for accuracy as much as you are, because obviously I am, but you're way more interested in the 100% truth than I.

Alan

I would say okay, well, I think it's important, it's very important because think about when you're off on something, it hurts you. It affects you. If you think playing the lottery is a good strategy for success, you're going to spend your whole life statistically broke. That is correct. It's just a bad strategy, you know.

Kevin

I would agree with that.

Alan

So if you, don't know the math. You might do that, thinking that there's a better chance to win than there really is. I just don't want to see people suffer.

Kevin

No, no, I know that's where it's coming from, but isn't it true that you could know that it's not a good choice without knowing the numbers completely?

Alan

Yes, but you won't understand the extent to how bad of a choice it is.

Accuracy is everything

Kevin

I think that's where you and I are different.

Alan

I've always, I would say, this high level. I grew up in an environment where there was a lot of irrationality and I always tried to call that out, because a lot of what I saw happening around me was very detrimental long-term detrimental and, trust me, I participated in a lot of long-term detrimental and, trust me, I participated in a lot of long-term detrimental things too. I drank, I partied. Trust me, I'm not a saint by any means. That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is I think I was more aware of the long-term downsides of decisions and as I've aged and become wiser and more mature, I've seen the downsides of some of the choices that I witnessed growing up and how bad they are. I don't want to see people I love suffer, but there's nothing I can do about it because they're going to keep making bad choices and I'm just going to keep trying to make better choices and I'm just going to keep trying to make better choices. And the difference between a positive choice and, I'll say, a constructive choice or a destructive choice is awareness, awareness and implementation. So you and I built a business on helping people make more constructive choices toward their unique goals and dreams in alignment with their core values. No one else did that for a living, so at least no one we grew up with to my awareness, to my awareness. And so we have a huge advantage because you and I talk on these microphones about how to become better every day.

Alan

And, statistically speaking, it's like poker. You're dealt pocket twos, I'm dealt pocket aces, but with enough hands you're going to end up beating me. If you're better at poker and make better choices it it I'm not, I can't count on pocket aces all the time, and and over time, even the best poker players in the world. It evens out where, no matter how bad your hands are, eventually you start getting on the positive end of winning because of the way you play the hand, and so we're all dealt cards. Some of us are dealt really bad cards and some of us are dealt really good cards, but statistically, over time, you can play poker better and better and better and better by learning the game, and with life it's just infinitely more complex.

Kevin

You when you? This would be a good question we'll get out of here. You used to go to the casino often. I'm going to guess something.

Alan

Huh.

Kevin

You ready.

Alan

Not super proud of this.

Kevin

By the way, I was going to say how are you feeling right now? I could go anywhere. No, you ever play slot machines, yes or no? No, because you know the odds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alan

I never even played blackjack on the video machines. You know how Okay, so let me share this quickly. Thank you for asking. I used to play blackjack at $5 tables and I would put the odds in my favor by not only counting cards, in my favor by not only counting cards, but also by. I had enough money to double down, so you had to beat me 13, like 13 times in a row to win. Uh they, they have a limit so that you can't keep doing that, because the odds of you beating me that many times in a row while I'm counting cards are astronomical, so I always get that wrong. Is it astronomically low or astronomical?

Kevin

Astronomical. Does that mean big? I think it means large.

Alan

Okay. So then, the odds of you beating me that many times in a row I think it's seven times in a row, I think if it was 13, you wouldn't be able to actually beat me, the statistically speaking. So, anyways, don't quote me on any of this. Here's my point. It's been a while. I would count cards and I would play at the $5 tables, because if you beat me, I'd then just bet 10. And then, if you beat me, I'd bet 20. And then, if you beat me, I'd bet 40. And then, if you beat me, I'd bet 80. And if you beat me, I'd bet 160. And if you beat me, I'd bet 320. One time I got to 640 and they beat me. It's like whoa, I had to go back to the ATM. Man, I've never had an L like that. I went to the casino more times than I'm proud of. I've lost one time, but I lost big and again, big. $3,200, whatever. But the point is, it was the L that bothered me, it wasn't the money.

Kevin

I had more than enough money $3,200 is an L, though that is an L for sure. That was an L, though that is an L for sure. That was an L.

Alan

I wanted to walk away, never having lost, so I ended up taking a huge L.

Alan

But the point of this whole thing is I never played the video machines. I played with real dealers so that I could watch them and make sure that it was on point, whereas the video machines are programmed to beat you. Don't trust slot machines. I went to school with the programmers who designed these machines and I'm telling you right now, the odds are not in your favor, and that's a Hunger Games reference, but I'll tell you what. You can. Put yourself on the high end of success. I made probably $100,000 gambling in my life and I only lost $3,200. And that might be an exaggeration, but honestly I doubt it. It might be maybe it's 50 grand. Okay, I made 50 grand and I lost 3200, so I'm net 46.

Alan

But at the end of the day, it's all just math and the only way to win at a casino long term is to just leave the second you get in, because there's better ways to make money, and at the higher stakes tables. By the way, the reason why I didn't do the higher stakes tables is because I knew they'd be watching and they don't let you count cards. So no one counts cards at a $5 table. You know what I mean, man. It's not even worth my time. I could make more per hour just doing something else, but at the end of the day my pass was weird.

Kevin

Well, I think that's a really good example of accuracy. That's the reason I asked, because it's almost like, if you're going to go to the casino and try to make a boatload of money, don't do this, this, this and this, do do this. If this happens, then do this. There is an ideal order of operations when it comes to that.

Alan

Mm-hmm.

Kevin

But that's all accuracy, and I think that's just. This is the weird thing, though. There's a guy I don't know if I follow. I think I follow him. You want to grow on Instagram? This is a great way to do it. Just do something every day and say today is day one of day two. Say today is day one of day two of day three of. There's a guy who bets 10 cents per Instagram follower on Blackjack.

The gamble of life

Kevin

And he has 1.8 million, no, 1.18 million followers, so $118,000 bet, whoa, he's won over a million dollars. Nice, do you know the odds of that, of winning as many times as he has?

Alan

If he knows how to play it's actually.

Kevin

It's on video. It's on video. This isn't in person. This is all digital.

Alan

This is digital poker, digital blackjack. Yeah, yeah, no kidding.

Kevin

Somebody said they calculate and again do I believe they've calculated it, but he is out of the hands he's played. He's won the majority of them, because he's won over a million dollars in the last 40 days or something.

Alan

It's not hard to win a million dollars when you're doing it every day with 118 grand. You know what I mean. Well, but he loses. Yeah, fair.

Kevin

But he's not net one million.

Alan

What do you mean? Is he in the green 1 million, meaning he won 4 and lost 3?

Kevin

He's in the green. Yeah, yeah, his profit is a million.

Alan

Well then, he's very good at the game.

Kevin

This is my ultimate thought, though If you followed this dude, you would be like, yeah, I'm just going to do that, I'll just do that every day. And then you would be like, yeah, I'm just gonna do that, I'll just do that every day, and then I'll be no, you will not. You will not be a millionaire statistically. You will lose all your money. I don't know how he's gotten to where he's gotten. I don't know if there's some, some shenanigans going on, but that's why accuracy is, because I had that moment.

Alan

What is it? The, the video, the the website's paying him to to you imagine no, no, that's out, that's happening.

Kevin

Yeah, yeah, that's you think that's happening not necessarily with him, but that's definitely happening with certain places.

Alan

100 that's brutal, it's been proven.

Kevin

Free marketing right yeah, but imagine if, because I had a moment, was like I should really be playing video blackjack more. I mean, I feel like this is pretty lucrative opportunity this guy's hitting every day. No, no reason, I couldn't do that. Yes, yes, you can.

Alan

You can try and you're probably not going to be successful, all right we got to go, we got to get out of here because we're going to go off the rails. One last thing I'm going to go really fast, yeah, yeah. You ever see a magician?

Alan

You ever go to a magic show and you see a magician do something that looks amazing and it's magnificent. There's always a trick that is hidden beneath the curtain that you don't know yet, and when you learn that trick, then you can replicate the result after years of perfecting the skill, and so that's a good way to think of success. When you see something on social media, it's either real, and there's a trick that you don't know, or it's actually just entirely fabricated and it's just a show, and you got to be very careful and try to figure out what's a show versus what's real. And then, if it is real and you think it's real hopefully you believe NLU is real and the conscious couples podcast is real and all that stuff then you got to go and learn from the magician and ask how are you guys doing this?

Alan

If you coach me one-on-one, I will tell you how we're doing it. I'll tell you exactly what we're doing and how we're doing it, and no fluff, no nonsense. It will be transparent, direct, directly from my engineering brain of this is exactly what did work. This is exactly what didn't work. This is exactly what I believe will work. This is the mistakes that we made. This is the things we're double down, doubling down on this is what I think you can do if you want, but it's brutal, and I think that that's why coaching is so valuable, assuming you have a coach that's super, super honest and super, super direct, which I think is really hard to find.

Kevin

To be honest, getting harder- I remember watching Criss Angel saying there's something off about this guy.

Alan

I don't think you can do it.

An excellent way to think of success

Kevin

Criss Angel's a magician, I don't know man. I don't believe what you're doing is real. What does he do? All sorts of wild stuff that nobody can do.

Alan

Just that like floating around and that type of stuff. There's always something to it.

Kevin

There has to be. If I was blessed with magician's powers, I would I don't know. I'd probably do something different, like maybe solve world hunger or something with my magic, not float around on stage in Las Vegas.

Alan

But again I don't you know it is what it is.

Kevin

All right Tomorrow for episode number 1,699, how comfortable are you with your biggest weakness? I had a really interesting conversation about this recently that I wanted to share. Next level nation will be in the show notes, as always. Alan just spoke of his coaching. It is world-class. We have many positive results and reviews and happy people, and I've been getting coached by Alan longer than anybody else on the planet, so I am a beneficiary of that coaching. So we'll have that link in the show notes as well. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.

Alan

Continue pulling back the curtain, next time on Nation.

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