#1704 - What Would Younger YOU Think Of YOU Today?

Have you ever imagined sitting down with your younger self and exchanging stories about the dreams of yesteryear and the realities of today? That’s precisely the soul-searching journey Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros undertake in today’s heartfelt episode. It’s about acknowledging the dichotomy of pride and disappointment as we evaluate our current selves through the eyes of the past. This reflective exercise is not merely about nostalgia; it’s a profound method for clarifying what truly matters in life.

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Show notes:
(3:35) What would past you think?
(6:40) How do you become your hero
(8:51) The ego develops
(12:07) Seeing the world through the lens of a kid
(15:58) Meet like-minded people and jumpstart your journey to achieving your dreams while optimizing your life. Join Next Level Group Coaching. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/monthly-meetups/
(17:28) Success is multidimensional
(20:12) Integrity and true self-alignment
(26:02) Find fulfillment in becoming your hero
(31:06) Outro

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:00

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode, episode number 1,703, your Parents Aren't who you Thought they Were Today. For episode number 1,704, what Would Younger you think of you today?

Speaker 1 0:26

I was on a podcast and we were having this very, very deep conversation and we were talking about how we're very proud of ourselves for growing and evolving and getting to the place that we're at. And it was with a young lady named Courtney Sweetheart. What a sweet human being. And I said let me ask you a question. Can I ask you a question? Let me flip the script here. Sometimes I do this. I just need to ask you a question. And I said that girl that was 100 pounds heavier than you, that girl who was dealing with what she was dealing with at the time what would she think of you today? And she paused and then she said you're going to make me cry. And then she started crying and she went through what that version of her would think about her today and how proud she would be and how grateful she would be that she did all those things to make herself proud today. And she went on and on and on. It was beautiful and I said the reason I asked you that question, courtney, is because I think old me would be triggered by new me. I think old Kevin who was insecure, I think old Kevin who was surrounded by scarcity, I think old Kevin, who didn't believe in himself, would probably look at this version of Kevin and think I'm a tryhard and think I am quote-unquote too much, probably think I'm arrogant to some degree. And I said, that's really helped me empathize with a lot of different humans. But I'm curious to what you whether you're watching or listening would think about you today. If you look back five years ago, what would, five years ago, you think about you today? Would it be positive, would it be? Oh no, we've let ourselves down over the last five years.

Speaker 1 2:24

I was looking at pictures today because today I posted our $1 million 1 million listen post on social media. It was time, it felt right. Today was the right day, it felt right and I was going through my Facebook and my Instagram looking at pictures and I have so many pictures from the fitness days and I look back and it's like my goodness, I was just in so much better shape. I was. I just I was. Do I have a list of reasons why that is? Yes, I have way more priorities. I don't want to suffer as much as I used to suffer. There's a lot of reasons underneath that, but I'm certain five years ago, kev looking at Kev today is probably like hey man, you let it go a bit. You let it go a bit. You were in really good shape and you're still maybe above average. Fine, but you're not where you once were. What do you got for me? You smirking over there?

What would past you think?

Speaker 2 3:15

No, no, that's just it is. It's so bad, I hate it's challenging. That's the only thing that younger Alan is so disappointed yeah, it's challenging. It's challenging, so I share all that just but everything else, you would say 100%, 100%, right, yeah which is good because it's just a again.

Speaker 1 3:36

I think two of the most powerful words in the human language are I decided I have not yet decided to say you know what. I'm going to track my calories consistently. I weigh myself every day and I'm not gaining weight. I'm staying at the same weight. That's my goal until I get back from Scotland.

Speaker 1 3:55

But there is a piece of me that I am probably going to eat so much in Scotland that when I get home I want a diet. So much in Scotland that when I get home I want a diet. I'm probably going to try to get myself to that point where, when I come home, it's like Kev, you've had a blast, you drank all the whiskey you could drink, you ate good food. Now let's dial it in. Let's dial it in, let's get down to 170 pounds, and then just don't go off the rails. Just do what you're. Go do your jiu-jitsu competition, lift heavy, go for runs, do the exercise you love to do, and then just do what you're doing, what you did before. Just eat at maintenance and don't worry about it. You don't have to lose weight forever, but let's just not get back to where we are. So again, the ultimate goal in this episode.

Speaker 1 4:42

The reason I wanted to do this episode is because we might look back and say, wow, I've come so far in the last five years. Love that, Love that. That's always the goal in the position of the person five years ago. And look at today. What would you think of you? Would you be proud? Would you be happy? Would you be sad? Would you be disappointed? Would?

Speaker 2 5:08

you be mind-blown.

Speaker 1 5:09

What would it be for you?

Speaker 2 5:12

That is the theme for today's episode. I was thinking a lot about where I wanted to go with this and I think that so that my very first YouTube video. I've sent it to a lot of my clients because I say don't compare to where we are now, you need to compare to this. And I have it unlisted on YouTube. It's private, but if I send you the link, if anyone wants it, reach out, email me. The email will be in the show notes Alan at NextLevelUniversecom.

Speaker 2 5:35

But it's an episode about heroes and I was thinking about is that unique to me? It's called Real Life Superheroes. It was a series that I wanted to do and for me, when I was a kid, heroes were One of the reasons why I loved. Film was just heroes. A character goes through adversity, answers the call to adventure and then faces trials and tribulations and eventually gets the girl or defeats the villain and becomes this bigger, better, stronger version of themselves On the other side of the film. And that was always just so inspiring Film just inspires me. A lot of them Not all of them Especially ones based on true stories, and so that's the journey we're all on.

How do you become your own hero

Speaker 2 6:26

But I wonder to myself is is having heroes something that I did that, that other people maybe didn't do as much, and I've. I've done this in coaching. I've asked people who were your heroes and a lot of people would say I didn't really have any. And maybe maybe you did unconsciously but never consciously thought about it. Maybe you're denying the fact that you actually do have heroes because it's hard to give someone that because they might let you down.

Speaker 2 6:51

There's that whole don't meet your heroes thing, or maybe you actually don't, and that's a unique to me thing. I just feel like I needed something to inspire me. I needed that so badly and the question that I would ask everyone is have you become your own hero? Have you become? If you could go back and you're a child let's say you're 10, 10 years old, and your 10 year old self could meet your current self, would your 10 year old self be blown away? One thing that I think is really cool is kids are so. Kevin and I had a very unique experience where we were able to do a speech to three different audiences. The first audience was the tail end of middle school, so I think it was eighth grade, seventh and eighth graders. The second speech was freshman and sophomore in high school. The third speech was juniors and seniors same speech. It was about growth, mindset, perseverance and success, or something like that.

Speaker 1 7:49

Yeah, resilience maybe resilience yeah, that's perseverance. But perseverance.

Speaker 2 7:54

it was growth mindset, personal development oriented, and I thought the first speech, in terms of the craft, was actually the worst one, but it was received the best. And I think the reason it was received the best is we went backstage and I was talking to Kevin. I was like that second speech went way worse than the first one and you came back you're like no, we did a way better job the second time.

Speaker 1 8:19

I think we got progressively better at delivering the speech. The audience didn't necessarily resonate to the same level of improvement is what I would say it's hard to parse those out.

The ego develops

Speaker 2 8:34

But we masterminded behind the scenes a lot and had a deep conversation about this behind the scenes in between speeches of why and I knew in my head it's like why would we do a better delivery on the same topic and have it be received worse? And then the third one was even worse. The juniors and seniors might as well be making fun of us.

Speaker 1 8:55

Yeah.

Speaker 2 8:55

And there's some other external factors as to why that happened. We got introduced poorly, whatever. But the point is is the ego develops In high school. Young kids don't have big egos. They're very honest. They'll tell you when you look like crap and they'll tell you when you're amazing and and when I'm. I play basketball and soccer with Amelia every now and then and we go to the track and there's little kids and these little kids are in awe, especially little boys they're. I'm six foot two. I've worked really hard in fitness. I'm coming up on two and a half years of exercise every day. I'm a very large human being who very clearly has muscle mass, and I say that depending on who I'm standing next to. By the way, I'm by no means anywhere. If I'm in the bodybuilding space, I'm not anything you'd look twice at, but as far as a random human walking around, it's noticeable. Random human walking around it's, it's noticeable.

Speaker 2 9:53

my point is though is little alan at 10 years old would notice, little alan at 10 years old would go. And these kids, they do that.

Speaker 2 9:59

They, they're like whoa and I don't know if that's energetic or what, but these kids will look at emilia and I and they'll be so drawn to us. They'll actually start start walking up to us and the parents come over and they're like no, no, no, get out of the way, get out of the way. They're playing basketball, like get out of the way. And the parents have an interesting aversion. The kids are just drawn, they're all drawn. It's very fascinating and I think it's an energetic thing. I think they can feel the love. I think they can feel the inspiration. I think they want to understand any of this. But I do know the kids are drawn. Barnes and Noble, same deal. These kids will look at us and it's just this interesting experience. Maybe they can sense the love between Emilia and I.

Speaker 2 10:42

But when you're 10 years old, you don't have an ego. You kind of call a spade a spade. You're not playing status games yet there isn't that crap of well. I can't give you that, because that makes me less than so. I think that's why this is such a good question is what would 10 year old version of you think about you?

Seeing the world through the lens of a kid

Speaker 2 11:03

So when I was 10, I think I went and saw Star Wars episode two and Natalie Portman was my first love. I playfully say that in In Star Wars Episode II, she was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen, and I wasn't inflating it, I wasn't deflating it, I just had reverence. And now, as an adult, when I watch those films, I go, oh, just a regular girl, but as a kid you just see so much inspiration. And so I think it's important for all of us to check in on that, because I did this with my therapist, carol, and she said let's go back into your childhood self and let's look at you now. What do you think of you? What do you want to say to you? And it was super, super powerful. So without doing that on a podcast, how can you look at yourself accurately? Like you with fitness, your older self wouldn't be as impressed, but your kid self probably would be.

Speaker 1 12:08

Well, I don't know if your childhood self would for sure. Well, it depends on whether childhood self would have saw five year ago version first true, that's fair I don't know, let's assume it didn't, let's assume we all go back to 10.

Speaker 2 12:19

Yeah, and your 10 year old version meets this version of kevin. I would say so. My 10 year old version meets this version of alan, and they never saw any other versions, I think. For everyone out there listening or watching, I think that's a powerful understanding.

Speaker 1 12:35

Talk about a mirror to look at a different frame yeah, the the weird thing about when you're 10 and again, it was a long time ago for me. I don't necessarily remember it super, super clearly. I don't think you recognize ego at all. I don't think you recognize ego at all. I don't think you recognize ego in other people almost at all. I know, I know.

Speaker 2 12:57

Which is so unfortunate.

Speaker 1 12:58

That's why it's almost. I think that's why our heroes at least for me, this was my experience the people I looked up to were the people who looked the way I wanted to look, acted the way I wanted to act or had the results that I thought I wanted. It wasn't really about character for me, because I didn't really know what character was when I was that young. Yeah, you don't understand what it's like to. You don't have the hindsight to understand what it's like to actually be disrespectful and then regret it.

Speaker 1 13:35

You don't get it yet, but I remember looking forward to people who are in really good shape. The people I looked up to when I was young were Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 2 13:48

Sylvester Stallone.

Speaker 1 13:49

Jean-Claude Van Damme, hulk Hogan.

Speaker 2 13:54

The Ultimate Warrior. The ultimate warrior was a wrestler in like 80s and 90s he was jacked he was. Which one was it the?

Speaker 1 14:01

ultimate, the ultimate warrior. I don't know if I've ever seen him. He was so jacked and I remember I had like a little ultimate warrior doll and I was like if I could look like that one day, holy crap, that would be awesome.

Speaker 2 14:16

And I've never trust me.

Speaker 1 14:18

I've never looked like that.

Speaker 2 14:20

I think I've looked my version of that that may require some performance enhancing drugs.

Speaker 1 14:24

Yeah, they were dealing those out like Skittles back then, but again this dude was jacked. So I think it's different. The things I appreciate about myself today are probably not the things I thought I would have appreciated about myself five years ago. I was on a great podcast last night. I've been on so many amazing podcasts especially this week.

Speaker 2 14:45

Shout out to Laura Way to go, Laura.

Speaker 1 14:50

And you know when you go on those shows and you just know the person has done the work and they have that energy of like this is going to be a deep episode, but you know you're good. I had that last night. Yeah, there's no ego, there's no dominance.

Speaker 2 15:04

There's no status stuff.

Speaker 1 15:06

No, just add value there's. No. Yeah, it's so good, it was amazing.

Speaker 2 15:09

Shout out to Kevin Lowe as well. Kevin Lowe as well. Kevin Lowe. I went on his show yesterday Grit, grace and inspiration. It was so good, one of my favorites. Kev's a good dude so shout out to Kevin Lowe Kev's a really good dude.

Speaker 1 15:19

We were talking about success and again, what's your unique version of success? And I said, the more and more I evolve and the more and more I lean into it. I just want to be a good man. I just want to be a good man Now. Yes, I want to be able to pay the bills and, yes, I do want nice things. Those are my truths. I do Might seem materialistic, but I like nice things. I just do, but not at the expense of being a good man. Yeah, you need both. You need both.

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Speaker 1 15:45

And we were doing kind of the wrap up at the end and Stephanie her name was Stephanie as we got to the end, she said I thank you so much for coming on. I really enjoyed your story. I feel like I learned a ton. And Kev, you are, you're a really good man. And I started crying. I was like, oh my goodness, how dare we do this at seven o'clock on a Tuesday?

Speaker 1 16:06

I don't think I thought about that as much when I was younger. I think I've always thought about it to a degree, but I also didn't have that many opportunities not to be a good person. You know like there's a lot of things we could do that are outside of alignment but would make us more successful. 100%. There's a million of them, but now it matters more than it ever has. So I think five years ago, kev would look at this version of Kev and say, not only have you improved and you've become more confident and you've worked on your self-belief and your self-worth and your boundaries, and there's a business and there's an amazing team, and you're married and all that, but you didn't lose yourself in that process and it would have been really, really easy to get lost in that process. So I think that's something five-year-old Kev would recognize. And he'd also say hey, man, get your ass in the gym a little bit more. Less Taco Bell, more curls in the gym, please, sir. Curls, curls, curl. How much do you bench? How much do you?

Speaker 2 17:16

bench dog. How much do you bench man? Whenever I get asked that question, I got asked that question after that speech. How much do you bench?

Speaker 1 17:23

Yes.

Speaker 2 17:24

How tall are you? This is so funny.

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Speaker 1 17:26

Nobody asks me that it's weird.

Speaker 2 17:33

None of the high school kids ask me that it's weird. None of the high school kids asked me that they didn't come over. Shake your hand real hard. Men are funny. They shake your hand real hard. Shake my hand harder it is?

Speaker 1 17:38

Yeah, it was very interesting. I told Alan. I said I want you to know those kids are making fun of you. I know you don't know this, but those kids are 100% making fun of you.

Speaker 2 17:49

There is something about that. It's a dominant thing. You know what's interesting? Let's actually talk about that. Why? I mean, I would never make fun of me If anything I'm. This is If anything I'd have reverence.

Speaker 1 17:58

I think this is why. I think this is why I brought up the ego thing, because when you're 10, you can look up to someone, and just look up to someone Because it's cool. It's cool to look up to someone when you're 15, 16, 17, 18, it's not really cool to look up to someone anymore. It's not the same why? Because I think it requires humility. I think it requires a lot of humility to look up to someone and give them that. I really think it does.

Speaker 1 18:33

And here's the other thing too I think people put themselves in the place of if I was where that person is, what would I think of myself? And I'm willing to bet, as awesome as it is for us to speak in front of 1,100 kids, as awesome as it is for us to speak in front of 1100 kids the high school, the older kids they're not thinking about that. That's not what they want to do with their lives. So, if anything, it's like this is what you guys do you come in and talk to high school kids. No, we do way more than that, but you're just seeing us in a second of time in front of you. That's so interesting.

Speaker 2 19:10

I never thought about it like that. I think that's what it is. If anything, we're giving back with that, Like that was.

Speaker 1 19:15

Think of this. And again, this isn't Don't connect it directly to us. I'm not saying You'll see the thing, if you go to a baseball game and you go to a major league baseball game and you go to an A baseball game, so there's A. There's single, a double, a triple A major leagues. You've got to go through all those unless you're world class. If you go to the major leagues as a 15-year-old kid, you're looking up to all those people. You know all of their names. If you go to like a single A game, you don't know who any of those people are and you probably don't look up to them. Even though they're way better than you, they're still world.

Speaker 2 19:56

They're a great world class athlete? I don't think. For me, in my brain, that was ever that way. I would still look up to them because they're at a higher level than you think. That's what it is. It's the staircase, it's not a level.

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Speaker 1 20:09

It's not a level that you aspire to get to. It's not. Yeah, nobody, nobody, wait, nobody is going to college to play baseball. And they say I really hope I stay at single a baseball. No one gets the majors. That's the.

Speaker 2 20:27

That's the aspiration was a was a d2 football player in college and for his size and stature that's statistically insane. Maybe that's what it is, Maybe statistically. I know how rare that is Maybe. To play D2 football as someone who's 5'5". I mean, that's what one in a million? You'd know better than I do.

Speaker 2 20:48

Maybe that's what my brain does. So that's interesting, I also think. To bring this back to the original point, I also want to share this too. I had this moment when you were talking about all the Arnold Schwarzenegger, sylvester Stallone, all that stuff, and you know what's interesting is? I don't think you look up to them that much anymore. I don't look up to.

Speaker 1 21:07

I look up to Sylvester Stallone still A little bit Again. They all pumped massive amounts of steroids into their bodies. Like pumped massive amounts of steroids into their bodies. Like it is what it is. That's what everybody was doing at that time. I'm not making, not using that as an excuse. I really appreciate the fact that he came from nothing and believed in himself so much. He wrote and directed. He wrote the script for Rocky and when he was trying to sell the script they said you're not acting in it, you're not an actor, you're not acting in it. And they kept offering him money and he would not. He said I'm acting in it. I wrote this, I'm going to act in it. And he got to the point where he had to sell his freaking dog because he couldn't afford to feed his dog anymore.

Speaker 1 21:50

But he kept believing and then he became I mean, the Rocky movie was a huge hit and he won a bunch of awards and he made a boatload of money and then he went and bought his dog back. That's awesome. I love that. I love that story. I think that's super, super powerful. So I have appreciation, I have reverence. What is it Reverence? Reverence for that, yeah, everybody else, yeah, that story's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 22:13

I don't know Everybody else yeah, that story's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 22:15

I don't know. I mean Arnold Schwarzenegger's out here getting the housekeeper pregnant while he's married, like you know that. I'm sorry, arnie, that ain't it, that just ain't it for me. So some people have fallen off the pedestal for sure.

Speaker 2 22:31

For sure, for sure, and as you get older, I think they're supposed to. But I wanted to share this. When you were talking about all of them, kevin and I playfully joked behind the scenes and we've said this, I think, to the team, or maybe it was group coaching, I forget. But if you were to have, if I were to have, one superpower I always talk about in the show friends ross made a comic when he was a kid, when he was probably around 10, and he made a comic called Science Boy and Phoebe asks Ross in the show what's Science Boy's superpower? The comic book is a superhero, it's like a superhuman thirst for knowledge. And Kev goes. My superpower, if I could choose one, is what is it? Super strength?

Speaker 1 23:17

That would be incredible. Yeah, it'd be an incredible hulk yeah, super strength.

Speaker 2 23:20

There's like that everyone always asks like, if you could have one superpower, what would it be?

Speaker 1 23:24

well, you used to say I wish I could pause time. That's, that's what I do. You said before I yeah, I still want to be super strong. I, I think pausing time would be super cool, but I think I think lifting cars off of people would be cooler.

Speaker 2 23:37

Fair, so that's mine, that's mine, the superhuman thirst for knowledge you can have right now. That's true. That's the superpower you can choose right now. I feel like I'm trying to do that. Okay, so back to the 10-year-old self. What would 10-year-old self think of you Before the ego develops? What would 10-year-old self think of you Before the ego develops, before the naive wears off, before you get these rose-colored, slash dark-colored glasses?

Speaker 2 24:13

I think we are all born with this clear cup of water and we don't know anything or anyone and we don't get it. And we don't know anything or anyone and we don't get it. And we don't understand anything or anyone. And we don't know how the world works. And and no one's cheated on you yet you, you're just a pristine little hard drive, for lack of better phrasing. And by 10 years old for many of us that's actually not true, because there's probably tons of mud slung in your glass by then. Depending on your adverse childhood experiences, it's called an ACE score, but anyway. So, 10 years old, these little kids, the way that they see their parents, I can witness it. I can see it. It's so interesting. I talked about the little girl. The guy brought his daughter into the liquor store while drunk driving.

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Speaker 2 24:54

That was really hard for me because, I could see how much he's her hero and I can see what that's gonna do to her. If that's your hero, you're gonna end up with a guy like that who drives drunk and brings his daughter into the liquor store. So anyways, without going down the dark road, what would your younger self think of you? What would it really believe? What would you really contemplate? Would you think you're good looking? Would you think you're in great shape? Would you think you're really smart? Oh, you're so smart, you're so hardworking, you're so well-rounded, you're so athletic, you're so strong. I remember I used to think my stepdad was so strong. He wasn't that strong, he was just strong compared to me. Right, it's such a different perspective now and that's again I've been talking a lot about this lately You've got to go back to the past. You've got to face the past. You've got to learn, relearn from your past, because these people that you thought were so much actually weren't. And maybe you are. Maybe you are, maybe you're not, but maybe you are. And so when my therapist, carol, asked me that question, it was really cool to really go back and think I I in many ways, have become my own hero. I've been become the male role model that I wish that I had, and I hope that for everyone, and I hope that for everyone Same. I hope that for everyone, because what else it we talk about self-actualization? We talk about becoming all you can be, doing all you can with all you have, maximizing your potential, achieving your goals and dreams. What is the point of life if it's not to become your own hero? What is the point of life if it's not to do all you can with all you have? What other point could there possibly be? If you can, I actually just bought a poem. It's called the man in the Glass. I have like a minute just over there. Oh, thank you, no problem. So I have a poem that I just bought, I'm framing it and I'm actually going to hang it back here in my office and it's called the man in the Glass and it's a poem that represents. No matter what the world thinks of you, no matter what your fans think of you or your listeners think of you, or your friends or family think of you. At the end of the day, you're going to look at yourself and it's man in the glass, because it was written by a man, but it's for women too. You're going to look in the mirror and you're going to.

Speaker 2 27:29

Are you proud of it? Prior to 26, I couldn't have honestly said yes, I couldn't. There's no way. I wasn't proud, I wasn't, and I can say that now, and hopefully I can say that even more next year and even more the year after that and even more the year after that, and I'll do my damnedest to make sure that's the case. But I remember living a life below my potential. I remember not being my own hero. I remember letting myself down every day. I will not live like that ever again and I hope that everyone, at least to some degree, I really do feel like that's where fulfillment is. If you can become your own hero, if you can become the hero of your own story, if you can be a bright light for others in the way that you would have needed, I do believe that that's the best it'll ever get Last thing before we go.

Speaker 1 28:20

Another person that I don't look up to nearly as much as I used to probably not at all, but it's the old Joe Rogan quote of be the hero of your own story. I've always liked that quote, I've always liked that premise. I've always thought that was super powerful. Be the hero of your own story Because at the end of the day, you kind of have to be. Somebody else can help, somebody else can assist, somebody else can guide, but you're going to have to be the hero who gets yourself out of the struggle, suffering, hole. Whatever, it is. All right, we got to go Tomorrow for episode number 1,705, it's Freestyle Friday. We love Freestyle Friday, so we're going to talk about something that will be freestyle on a Friday. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We'll talk to you all tomorrow.

Speaker 2 29:06

Be the hero of your own story. Next level nation.