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#1716 - Saying Yes Opens You Up To More Yesses…

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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In this episode, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros explore the impact of embracing new experiences. Fresh from their travels, they share anecdotes and lessons learned, highlighting how a simple “yes” can open doors to unexpected opportunities, sparking hope and excitement.

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Show notes:
(1:49) Welcome back!
(4:15) The thrill of novelty
(8:45) There’s more to do than can ever be done
(11:43) Dance between novelty and certainty
(15:43) At NLU, we want you to win, so we’re providing tools and resources to ensure your success. Join our Monthly Meet-up every first Thursday of the month at 5 PM. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/monthly-meetups/
(17:02) Priorities and levels of ‘Yes’
(19:43) Self-awareness
(23:56) Embracing our limits
(29:27) Outro

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Speaker 1

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your will. We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode, episode number 1,715, goals vs Growth. Today, for episode number 1,716, saying yes opens you up to more yeses. It is weird recording this episode because this is the first episode for me back from Scotland, the first episode for Alan back from South Carolina Mm-hmm, south Carolina. And I was telling Taryn this. I believe this is the longest I've gone without podcasting in seven years. Same, at least six years, because I definitely missed episodes in the very beginning, so I wasn't doing them every week, but at least six years. So I'm a little giddy to be back. I definitely missed it. I said that to Taryn. I said I miss it. So very much, same. So I'm excited, excited, to be back. Are you excited?

Speaker 2

to be back Very much. I was actually having a really hard time not laughing a lot at the beginning Because I was smiling ear to ear.

Speaker 1

I expected that. Yeah, I expected that for us. I was nervous this was going to be a challenging episode, but we're professional.

Speaker 2

We talked about it before. You've got to be careful how long you go out of the saddle, for lack of a better phrase. Because how long you go out of the saddle for lack of a better phrase, yeah, because it's supposed to be like riding a bike, but I don't know, man, we're going to find out.

Speaker 1

We're going to find out. The problem with that saying is, just because you're riding the bike, I mean, yeah, you can get on and pedal, but you still might go ass over the handlebars.

Speaker 2

You remember BMX, way back.

Speaker 1

Of course I was a big Remember BMX way back.

Welcome back!

Speaker 2

Of course I was a big time BMXer myself. You were a big time BMXer.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 2

Really Did you have the grind On?

Speaker 1

front and back.

Speaker 2

Were you? Yeah, I didn't know you were a BMXer, I wasn't great, I was a poser, for sure. But I had a Matt Hoffman bike. It was a really nice bike, my I had a matt hoffman.

Speaker 1

I had a matt hoffman bike. It was a night.

Speaker 2

It was really nice bike my mom got me bmx inline skating, skateboarding was huge x games back then. It's kind of like that's a better metaphor metaphor. It's a better metaphor. We're not just. It's almost like uh, you haven't podcasted for a week, okay, so you got to work out the kinks here. But it's not just going to be like riding a bike. It's like going to a BMX competition and seeing if you can still do a 360 half pipe.

Speaker 1

Met her for.

Speaker 2

Yeah, obviously we're doing well so far, so that's good.

Speaker 1

I fell in love with someone and I met her for coffee. All right, why are we doing this episode? Saying yes opens you up to more yeses. So I went to Scotland Shout out to anybody who is living in Scotland or of Scottish heritage the not the first day we went. I told Alan this. So Taryn and I left our flight, left at I think it was like 8 o'clock at night or something. It was late. It was like, yeah, I think it was like 8 o'clock. We flew to London because we had a layover and I think we were in London not for very long, like an hour. We had to rush to our plane.

The thrill of novelty

Speaker 1

By the time we got to Scotland, I had already been up for 20, probably like 20 hours or something like that, and then Taryn wanted to explore. So we ended up going and walking around Edinburgh, which is awesome and we ended up going back to the Airbnb that night and we were both hungry because we hadn't eaten and we were looking at menus and I was looking at a burger place and at this point I'd been up for 32 hours. I was getting ready to choose my food and then, the next thing I know, I woke up a couple hours later on the couch and my body just shut down. I was like you're done. So this was the second day in Scotland is what gave me the inspiration for this story. Definition of an abbey is Kind of like a church grounds and yeah, I don't know. I'll have to Google it. I don't know what the definition of an abbey is, but there was this lunch place or this breakfast place we saw and we pulled over because we hadn't eaten, because I passed out, I couldn't eat the night before. And we go into this really cool place, beautiful view, there's sheep and cows. It was awesome and I see this thing on the menu haggis. Haggis is a very well known food in Scotland and maybe the UK in general. I'm not sure, but it's not the most tantalizing thing when you hear the way it's described, how it's made and what's in it. I'll let you Google it if you want. And I told Taryn I said you know I'm going to try this. We're here, I want to get out of my comfort zone a little bit. I could definitely get like eggs or something, but I'm going to get haggis and I'm going to get some different stuff. And it was really good. I enjoyed it very, very much.

Speaker 1

But throughout the rest of the trip I tried to leverage the momentum excuse me of yes to do things that I wouldn't normally do. So when we went to dinner another night, I got a steak pie, a meat pie, a lamb pie that I never would have gotten before, and as we did different things, I would try different coffee drinks, I tried different whiskey. So that's really what I wanted to talk about today is, when you say yes to something, it opens you up to more yeses. Imagine if you go over to somebody's house for dinner and they say, hey, do you want blink? And you say no. It's far easier to say no, no, no, no, no when you already have the momentum of no. I think yes is the same way, and I told Taryn I said on this trip, I'm going to try to be yes. Man from the movie with Jim Carrey you want to do something, I'm going to try to do it, regardless of how it makes me feel or if I'm scared or whatever, and I think that was a very positive experience for me nice.

Speaker 2

So, haggis, I looked it up. Oh boy is a savory pudding containing sheep's pluck minced with chopped onion, oatmeal, suet, suet spices and salt, mixed with stock and cooked while traditionally encased in the animal's stomach, though now an artificial casing is often used instead. It was very good.

Speaker 1

It was good. Yeah, I don't know the cake thing, it was very much like. You mean pudding? Oh yeah, pudding, it was very much hash. It pudding, hmm, oh yeah, pudding, it was very much hash, it was almost like hash.

Speaker 2

Big fan, yeah, of hash. I've never had haggis. I think you'd like, so I told I probably would, even though it does sound terrible uh I had some, some different dishes down in south carolina that ended up being bomb.

Speaker 1

Love food. What'd you have Instead of chicken and rice? You had chicken and couscous.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, I don't remember the names of the stuff. I can't recall any of them, to be honest with you, you're very cultured. You're a very cultured man Extremely. I had a bunch of tacos.

Speaker 2

Fish tacos, a bunch of different things, but anyways. So I asked kev, I said what do you think is going to be the value that I had on this episode? And he said you figure that out for yourself. Perfect, because I actually think that and again I often talk about duality I think you, you can be a yes man or a yes woman too much, and that can get the best of you, or you can be a no man, no woman too much, and so it's a drive to five, like all things at nl. You are, and if you say so for kevin doing that on the trip, I think it's actually really good, I would agree. I say yes to certain things on this trip, said yes to certain things on this trip that I normally wouldn't on this trip, said yes to certain things on this trip that I normally wouldn't. Her brother, zach, ordered certain foods. I tried certain foods, tried different things, all that kind of stuff. I think that's really good. The problem is is, if you're doing that too much and too often and when you get home from the trip you're still doing that, you can really go off the rails. So the moral of the yes man, the movie, and if you haven't seen it. It is hilarious.

Speaker 2

The moral of the story is you can't say no to everything. Because at the beginning of the movie he's basically a shell of himself. He says no to everything, he's scared of everything. And then he goes to this yes seminar, and at the yes seminar they say embrace yes, you're not allowed to say no. Say yes to everything, opportunity, opportunity, opportunity. And then eventually he gets burnt out completely and he realizes that there's a downside of saying yes to everything. And so at NLU we talk about being discerning. How do you go on a trip in Scotland? That may be the last time you ever go to Scotland, I don't know. It might be, though.

Speaker 1

You're only going to be Hopefully not, hopefully not.

There's more to do than can ever be done

Speaker 2

Well, here's the thing, no-transcript, and it's called Humpback Mountain, but we wanted to see it and we wanted to see the whole thing because chances are we're not going to ever go back there. There's a great quote from my favorite movie, the Lion King, where they say there's more. It's a song, actually there's more to do than can ever be done. There is there's more to do in this world, on this earth, than can ever be done by any one person. And so Emilia and I have hiked six mountains. Now we're not going to go re-hike another mountain that we already hiked. Why not go to another one? And so we're traveling and all that kind of stuff, and we're not going to. Even when I was down south, I wanted to try. I didn't want to get the same food I ended up getting. I said I want to try a fast food chain that isn't up up in the northeast I ended up doing checkers I had never had checkers before have you had checkers?

Speaker 2

yes, yeah, and they had some awesome stuff, some other not so awesome stuff. They got our order wrong. Whatever the point is is I didn't want to go down there and not try new things, but there's something to be said for the tried and true things, because by the end of the trip we were kind of yesed out. I was. I was like, listen, we got Qdoba for the last leg of the journey. We ended up getting four burrito bowls, which was two days worth of food for us, and they were huge. But I told her I'm done with yes, I'm done with noo. I'm all noo'd out. I want certainty. I don't want to go to another place with another meal that may or may not be good. I'm all yesed out. I'm all done with new and novelty, and so you have to dance between new experiences and novelty and then certainty. The reason why I chose Qdoba is because I know Qdoba I'm going to love. I know Qdoba's macros, I've tracked all the macros, and so I think that that's really the value that I can add in this episode, which is, make sure you're choosing.

Speaker 2

Are you more on the yes side, where you say yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and you're spreading yourself too thin and you're constantly everything for everyone and your bank is suffering. Bank account is suffering from it. Maybe your digestive tract is suffering from it because it can never get used to any foods, because you're eating too many new foods, is it? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Or are you on Kevin's end, where it's actually novelty isn't one of his core needs. He doesn't adventure that much or that often, so when he's in Scotland he's going to go off the rails and that's okay. And so are you too far on the no end, or are you too far on the yes end, and I again? It depends on the circumstance as well it was.

Speaker 1

It was a very interesting perspective to have because I did things I wouldn't normally do. So we we went to many different places in scotland. We did like the entire loop. We did a lot of driving. I think we did 1300 miles of driving while we were there and one of the places we were staying in where? Where were we? I think we were in Stornoway.

Dance between novelty and certainty

Speaker 1

There was a restaurant like right below us and we had driven I think a couple hours and then taken a ferry for three hours and we were just tired. So we ordered food downstairs and I went and picked it up and they said, yeah, it'll probably be like 20 minutes. And I said let me get a double shot of whiskey. Then, while I wait, they're like, yeah, there's a couch over there. You can have your whiskey and hang out. I don't know if it was a double shot, it might have been a single shot. I got a double shot later somewhere, but I literally just hung out on this couch by myself in the middle of Scotland, just looking at people drinking whiskey, waiting for them to finish up with dinner, and I just wonder and you loved it, man? It?

Speaker 2

was awesome I loved it.

Speaker 1

It was awesome.

Speaker 2

It was awesome but if that's all you ever did, yeah, yeah, it wouldn't be awesome.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I would be that that guy in the bar who's there. Every time you go you're probably like does that guy, is he? Or leave here? Is he? Is that where he lives? Did he sleep here? This is my couch it was comfortable I.

Speaker 1

I just wonder, I don't know. I wonder if in my past, when I used to travel for work, I was the opposite. I was the no man. I remember all my my co-workers always wanted to go out. I'll never forget this. We were. It was probably a thursday night, because sometimes we would go out on thursdays because we usually left Friday, so we weren't there for the weekends. And all my co-workers came into my room and they're like hey, we're going out, let's go. And I said, no, I'm not going, I don't want to go, I'm not interested, just leave me alone. I don't want to go, I don't want to party, just leave me alone. I want to hang out and watch TV. At that stage I didn't want to do anything. I wanted to stay in, I didn't want to go out, I didn't want to party, I didn't want to be social. So I think it's good for me to flex the other side, to flex the other muscle. But I'll tell you, we were there for 13 days.

Speaker 1

Tara and I got home last night and we were both very excited to just be back to normal, 100%. We missed the cats, we the cats. We missed our beds. I missed the office, I missed strong Wi-Fi, you can go, because I think it's a conversation about certainty. I was so uncertain driving on the opposite side of the road, driving on the opposite side of the car. I was so uncertain in the beginning that I didn't really want to say yes to things that I was uncertain of. But as we got more and more and certainty starts to build, then I think you can build. As we got more and more and certainty starts to build, then I think you can build the bridge A little bit more. So I think it's a conversation as much about certainty as anything when it comes to saying yes or no, and you and I had opposite.

Speaker 2

We've always had opposite problems or challenges. I was everything all the time. I partied all the time. I remember you came camping with us, my group of friends back then.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And that was really outside your comfort zone. For me, that was my normal. I didn't seek solitude enough, I was too much of all that, and so I was all partied out by that point. So after 26, for you it was like let's get outside our comfort zone, let's travel, let's get on a plane, let's face my fears, let's go to networking events, let's meet people, let's do this. For me it was how do I seek solitude and hone in and get my habits dialed in and all that kind of stuff. Obviously you did some of that too, but you and I have really driven to five again on most things. And so for everyone out there listening or watching, which end are you on and and in what phase? Because I was a little bit of.

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Speaker 2

I was wicked, outgoing wicked, definitely from mass. I was wicked, outgoing wicked, definitely from math. I was very outgoing in middle school extremely. Then I remember in high school I was very much a recluse, particularly freshman and sophomore year. I felt like a nerd, bullied, just didn't fit in, was shy, not confident at all that kind of thing. Then junior and senior year I started to really blossom again and and I got taller and I hit puberty kind of and and all that. Then in college I was social butterfly again. So middle school, social butterfly, high school, kind of a recluse, sought solitude a lot, played a lot of video games. Then I, when I got outside my shell again sort of senior, junior, senior year, and then college I went completely too far on that end and then in my twenties I stayed on on that end and then eventually, after 26, I went back into recluse, kind of yeah, and now I'm in a phase where I think I'm expanding again, I'm open to traveling again, I'm emailing.

Speaker 2

I talked about how aligned this trip was and we did. We saw dolphins, it was, it was pretty great. But I'm trying to stay at five and everyone's five is different. Emilia needs more adventure than I do. I could tell on this trip. She wants more adventure than I do. Taryn, I think wants more adventure than you do makes perfect sense. So how can, how can my certainty be a net positive in our relationship and how can her excuse me, her variety be a net positive in our relationship? And how can her variety be a net positive in our relationship as well? And how do you integrate? If it wasn't for her, I might not have gone on this trip. If it wasn't for me, we would not have hit the gym as often or as much. We wouldn't have hit our macros, maybe as well. We got great sleep. That was what we were optimizing for. We had a list.

Priorities and levels of 'Yes'

Speaker 2

Emilia and I are very, very planners. She's a bigger planner than me, but I have certain priorities that I will not miss. One of them is getting great sleep. We got really good sleep. The other one is fitness. Make sure we exercise every single day and make sure we get our work done. And if those three boxes are checked, I'm good. We can explore as much as you want after those three boxes are checked and I don't mean after, logistically, meaning we can't do anything until after those are checked. What I mean is our priorities stay our priorities, and everything outside of those priorities we can flex and adapt. And so the question for everybody out there is what are your main priorities right now? And then, what level of yes or no, woman or man, do you need to be at this junction of your life?

Speaker 1

Self-awareness, know yourself. I did not sleep well while I was there, because I get up. I was on a podcast a couple days before we left and the person was like, oh so you're going on vacation, you're going to vacation, you're gonna take some time away? And I said, no, I'll still. I'll still be doing stuff every day. I'll, I'll do my whatsapp and I'll batch my whatsapp and and that type of stuff. And he said do you? How do you feel about that? Like, does that frustrate you that you have to do that? I said it's really, it's a really interesting question. I said it doesn't? It kind of sucks. Yes, but that's what I signed up for. It's not like I didn't know that that was going to be part of it. So that's kind of part of it. Well, maybe I didn't sleep in as much as I wanted to because I was getting up and I was batching my WhatsApp and I was sending messages and doing my emails and whatever it is. So, unfortunately, sleep was not the number one priority, but that's, I think that's an important piece of it too.

Speaker 1

To your point, alan, is that was huge for Taryn. Taryn wanted to go do a bunch of different stuff. I wouldn't have gone. Without her I would never have gone to Scotland. I didn't understand the history, I didn't know the beauty of it, I didn't know the sights worth seeing. I never would have done that. So my biggest thought around that was she's going to regret it more if we don't do it than I'm going to be uncomfortable if we do. I don't know if I would have any regrets whether we did everything or not. Probably not, but I know she would. So let me say yes, maybe more often than I normally would, and I have a bad habit of saying no first.

Speaker 1

Anyway, I know that and people on her end might say yes, too much and too often and struggle with consistency.

Self-awareness

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, it's fair and I would love to do an episode soon about how I did a team training on Saturday with the whole NLU team on this. How do you keep your priorities while your life is hectic? How do you design your life around your priorities? Because and I'll be brief with this, but during this trip we were away for seven days. I did my big five to thrive. Every single day. I didn't miss a single client call. I hit the gym and or exercised every day. We did biking one day, we did walks, we did hit the gym several times and this was a road trip and I still was able to get the priorities. We got great sleep and I had.

Speaker 2

This moment of it has been challenging. I mean, doing five things a day every day is hard, even when you're home in a perfect environment, never mind when on the road Now maybe you don't have to do five things, but I do know everyone struggles with consistency. There's no human on earth that I know that doesn't have trouble being consistent with something. I did my mobility every single day In 2023, I couldn't do mobility. I struggled so hard to be consistent and I didn't miss a single time. So I would love to do an episode at some point of how do you keep your priorities in order while life is chaotic.

Speaker 1

Noted, I wrote it down Priorities in a hectic life is what I wrote down. Nice, anything. In closing. Good sir, for our first episode back from hiatus. No-transcript.

Speaker 2

Anything in closing, anything in. A lot of people are more yes than no, and I think you have to figure out where five is for you and it's all based on your needs. He's certainty driven. If you're variety driven, you probably need more consistency. If you're certainty driven, you probably need more variety, and I think that that's true for everybody.

Speaker 1

And I think it's just super important to understand what comes with that. Yeah, I don't know if I don't really get FOMO, but maybe I regret not doing things. I don't really know. I understand there's a downside to saying no too fast. I close myself off and I don't leave myself open to certain opportunities. Good, we.

Speaker 2

I think we should do an episode at some point to FOMO versus JOMO, Fear of missing out versus joy of missing out, and this is something else that I'll go briefly with. But I I realized that on this trip there's pros and cons to everything. We've talked about that in the past, but it was very blatantly obvious everything's a trade-off. We've also done episodes on that in the past. Do I want to go on the boat today? Yes, but if I go on the boat today, I'm not going to be able to do X Y Z. And if I don't do X Y Z, which one am I going to regret more Again, we've done a lot of episodes about that, but again, I think that we try to convince ourselves that we can do it all, and I just believe that is so unreasonably false. I mean, you did a ton on that trip In 13 days. How much did you and Taryn do? You probably did more experiences in those 13 days than all of last year.

Speaker 1

Definitely yeah.

Speaker 2

Okay, emilia and I same deal. We sat down. We're like I can't believe that was only a week. It felt like a month because we did so much, but we traded off some things I can give you a list of 10 that we didn't do because we didn't have time.

Speaker 1

Exactly For sure. We did a bunch. We didn't do a bunch because we didn't have the time and you're exhausted.

Speaker 2

Sometimes it's listen, I don't even want to go out, I don't even want to. I know we're in Scotland, but I need to rest, so I think that that's another thing too. So last thing here is are you overly expanding, overly facing fears, overly expand, expand, expand, new, new, new, or are you a hermit like Kevin and I have been guilty of? And which end do you need to go on? Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1

I'm not even going to use the word guilty, because I like being a hermit Same. So I would say, yeah, we have been in the past, we have practiced being hermits, I think our goals also require that, I would agree, but that's also a whole other conversation.

Embracing our limits

Speaker 1

It would be very hard to do this and really, really really desire a life filled with different, fun, unique experiences every day. It would be really really challenging. I mean, I guess you can consider being on other podcasts fun and unique, but not. I'm not doing that outside in the sun or by the beach or on the lake or whatever it is, but self-awareness, self-awareness. I'm glad to be back, I'm glad to be self-awareness, I'm glad to be back, I'm glad to be back to the cats, I'm glad to be back to my bed, glad to be back home, glad to be back podcasting with all of you. You, sir, you and I had a wonderful day together today, chatting as we do every Monday. So yeah, the kids are back, baby, the kids are back.

Speaker 2

I'm to be back in front of the mic. It feels weird not being here. 21 episodes in one week to prepare for those trips. Yeah, shout out to the NLPS team, shout out to everyone who rallied for that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, everyone, the NLPS team, the team Yep Kev was away for 13 days.

Speaker 2

I was away for seven and I told Kevin this today. I said I'm very impressed. I don't think we lost much momentum, if any, which is wild because in the past I've always felt like trips have been a big L for business.

Speaker 1

Well, here's to being back. Here's to successful trips and fulfillment and happiness and joy and perspective. Most of all, next Level Nation. If you have not yet joined our private Facebook group named Next Level Nation, please do so. We'll have the link in the show notes. I know most of us are looking for positive people and now is the easiest time to find those positive people because there's Facebook groups and because there's meetups and events and all that stuff. So if you're looking for a Facebook group to do that in, we'll have the link in the show notes below. People because there's Facebook groups and because there's meetups and events and all that stuff. So if you're looking for a Facebook group to do that in, we'll have the link in the show notes below.

Speaker 2

So, on book club, on Saturday I was in a Hilton Inn and I did back-to-backs all day. It was a wonderful day. So shout out to all my clients who accommodated Thank you, thank you, thank you. And shout out to everyone who joined book club. I think there was like 14 of us and it was a really good discussion.

Speaker 2

So we're reading a book called the Psychology of Money and I in book club. Often this is where I learn a lot, because I ask people to raise their hands and participate. You don't have to, but most people do. And I said who here considers themselves a strategist? Because Morgan Housel is an author who I know does and only a couple of hands went up. And then a few hands went up and said like so-so yeah, kind of kind of not. And that was big for me because I thought to myself oh wow, not a lot of people identify as being a strategist. So when you went to Scotland and you 13 days of all these different experiences you were strategizing about where you're going to go and when you're going to go there, and we are going to take this car and do that, and then you're going to go and when you're going to go there and we are going to take this car and do that, and then you're going to carry more than I.

Speaker 2

Okay, taron, more than that's strategy, that she's developing a strategy to maximize the experience, and so not a lot of people identify as a strategist, and so book club is kind of like a little self-awareness strategy club where we're all learning about money, but we're, more importantly, we're implementing how to save money, how to invest money, what you should and shouldn't do and how to think about money. What's your mindset about money? What's your experience about money? What's your money story? And again, this is the psychology of money. So we're doing money right now, but we do books and the book really all the book is is it's a theme that we all read the book? Is it's a theme that we all read the book? We analyze the chapters and we get to discuss and share our experiences about the topics, and it's just awesome. It's where I learn the most. I absolutely love it, so I hope you join us. The link will be in the show notes Growth books with growth people.

Speaker 1

All right, I don't know what we're doing because we are just freestyling it and we didn't chat and we haven't set up our episodes for the week. So I don't know what we're going to do for tomorrow's episode. We'll figure something out. Maybe it'll be one of the ones that alan brought up. I try not to do them too close to the inception episode, just because I want to make sure it's different, but we'll see. We'll see what tomorrow holds. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at nlu we do not have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow. Get outside your comfort.

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Alan Lazaros

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