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#1717 - 1 BIG Reason Change Is SO HARD…
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In a world where our passions often clash with the demands of life, how do we navigate the turbulent waters of fear and muster the courage to prioritize personal growth? In this episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros explore this topic, providing listeners with a compelling narrative and practical advice for balancing their aspirations with the realities of their daily lives.
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(3:18) The hardest part about change
(6:29) Personalization
(8:23) Identity, freedom, and the fear of change
(13:41) Deepest fear
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Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode. Episode number 1,715, no, sorry, 1,716. Saying yes opens you up to more yeses. Today, for episode number 1,717, I didn't come up with a title. Let's see. I don't know if this will be the title, but sometimes this won't be, because it's going to be super long Sometimes.
Speaker 1one of the reasons change is so hard is because we're afraid to admit what that change means about us. So again, I'll come up with a shorter title for the actual episode.
Speaker 2That's a long one Longest one we've ever had, right there.
Speaker 1Yeah, I would say so. Oh, who knows, In the beginning we were out here winging it, so it's very possible that that's not.
Speaker 1So Alan and I met a few minutes before recording this episode and I said, hey, man, I think I'm going to cancel jiu-jitsu. And he said why? And I said I just don't. I think I jumped the gun a little bit. I was super excited to find a gym and I tried it and I am in love with it. I enjoy it very much.
Speaker 1But I'm just not at the stage right now where I can commit to being somewhere at a certain time X amount of times per week. I don't have that flexibility yet and we just changed our schedules from our first call being at 11 to 10. And that kind of Jeff's it. So I don't think right now is the best time for me to do it and I can just go back to the boxing room at the gym that I go to. I love kickboxing. I probably like kickboxing more than I like jujitsu, honestly. But I can do that whenever I want. I can do that at 6 o'clock in the morning, I can do that at 9 o'clock at night, I can do it whenever I want. So that works better.
Speaker 1But I told Alan. I said I think one of the things that made it hard for me to make the decision, and this all happened today. I made the decision this morning. It came to me. I said yeah, that's fair. Okay, I'm done. I tend to operate pretty quickly, but I was thinking what does this mean about me? I told Derek shout out to Derek if he's listening that I was going to do a grappling competition with him on August 10th. And I messaged him today and I said hey, man, I'm sorry if I let you down, but I got to do what's right for me.
Speaker 2And he said no man you're good.
The hardest part about change
Speaker 1You're good, do not worry about it at all, and I'm very grateful for that. But there was a piece of me that was afraid that he would think I let him down. So it was more what does this mean about me? Than it was the logistics of it, the saving the money, the having more time now in my schedule. The money, the having more time now in my schedule. It was more well. I'm supposed to be the martial arts guy. I'm the one who's been talking about being so passionate about jujitsu and now I'm not going to do it. What's that going to look like? Am I going to look like a hypocrite? And I think sometimes that's the hardest part about change. It's not always the physical aspect of changing. I think oftentimes it's. What is the physical aspect of changing going to mean about me? Or what is it going to look like about me? What is it going to make me look like if I do this? So, yeah, I thought it would be a timely episode to do, based on new information.
Speaker 2We did an RT relationship talks event a while back and there was a term that came up that I didn't fully understand. I remember we're actually on a coaching session with a couple that we coach and the male in the relationship personalizes everything. Excuse me, I had to burp and I had never learned this term and I just tried to look it up. That's actually why I wasn't. It looked like I wasn't paying attention to you. I was trying to look it up and apparently personalization is obviously something in an industry where you personalize a product or service, there's like a business version. So, anyways, I looked up the wrong one.
Speaker 2The point is is we, we did an rt event and emilia, one of the slides is the definition of personalization, and it essentially means that you personalize something. Meaning kev is talking about what he's going through and growing through with whether or not he wants to do jujitsu. We're going to save money. It's hard to be at a time and place, specifically with our crazy schedules, and I'm sitting there going. What does this mean about the 10 pound and 10 week challenge? Because that's what happens in relationships.
Speaker 1We haven't announced that yet, by the way, so nobody knows what you're talking about. Oh, because that's what happens in relationships.
Speaker 2We haven't announced that yet, by the way, so nobody knows what you're talking about. Oh, so, kevin and I this is the second time we've ever done this, and the first time was interesting because I ended up doing a marathon to try to make weight we're doing a 10-pound in 10-week challenge, so August 10th is the date. August 10th, august 10th Okay, so August 10th is the day August 10th, august 10th.
Speaker 2Okay, so on August 10th, kevin has promised me, and now all of you, that he will weigh in at 10 pounds lighter than he is now 169.9.
Speaker 1169.9. Yep, yes.
Speaker 2And I will weigh in at 184.9. Well, 185 or lower, if I hit 185, it counts. Hopefully I won't cut it that close right counts. Hopefully I won't cut it that close right, but anyway so. So the moment that kev was talking about the jujitsu thing, I immediately in my brain went okay, so he's not gonna do the jujitsu gym, we're gonna save money, that's great. Is he still gonna do the competition? And if he doesn't do the competition, is he still gonna do this 10 pound and 10 week challenge with me?
Speaker 2Because I was really excited about that, and I had, and the thing is is, if you've ever met someone who makes everything about them, all human beings do that, just just to a different extent. So I immediately took myself out of myself, and then I was there for Kev. This all happened in very short time, but I, once I got certainty that you were still doing the 10 pound in 10 week challenge, all of a sudden, now I can fully be present in there for you. But how many times does that happen in relationships, where I'll say something about business and then immediately it's like well, what does that mean for me, though? And so I just think it's important to admit that about ourselves into.
Personalization
Speaker 2More importantly than anything is when I learned personalization and I saw this couple and I adore this couple, this couple's great, but the female would be giving the male feedback in real time, even if it's grateful gratitudes, and he would internalize it as a negative thing. What does this mean about me? And then he, he couldn't really give gratitude back and it was. It was not a good feedback loop. So for all of our listeners watching are listening to this. How often are you personalizing things? It would be the the value that I would add in this episode and to your point, kev, you mentioned. What does this mean about me? What does this mean about my identity? What are people gonna think? Think about all the fears that stack up the moment you even consider yeah.
Speaker 1Well, here's the other interesting thing if, if you want to do something, so let's say for me, let's say for me, it was really hard for me to go to the gym the best thing to do would be to attach someone else to it, because I don't want to let that person down. But if you don't want to do something, the last thing you should do you should do is attach someone else to it, because you might end up doing something you don't want to do for someone else. I got very familiar feels today because you may know, you may not know I did a bodybuilding show back in 2018, I think no, no, no, no, sorry, 2015. Long time ago. It was a long time ago. That was 10 years ago. Oh, my goodness gracious.
Identity, freedom and the fear of change
Speaker 1I did a bodybuilding show in I think it was 2015. 2014, 2015. That time frame, and I just hated it. When I was done, I was miserable, and I was. I was unhealthy. I was on my shirt, a little fluff on my shirt. I was unhealthy. My mental health was terrible. My physical health was terrible. My physiological health, everything it was bad. But I decided the next year I was going to do another show. One of the reasons I decided to do that is because I kind of felt like that was part of my identity I had when I was doing bodybuilding. What do you think I was watching Bodybuilding? I was watching bodybuilding interviews. I was listening to motivational music and motivational videos. I was surrounding myself with bodybuilders. I had a bodybuilding coach that became my identity.
Speaker 2What was the name? Of that Netflix documentary you sent me.
Speaker 1I remember way back Generation Iron.
Speaker 2No, no, no, no, not that one. There was another one. It was more about physique that you sent me. Greg Plitt was in it, oh, I don't remember the name of it Perfect Physique or something like that, something like that, but I remember you were the one who recommended I watch that.
Speaker 1I did enjoy it, even though it was Well. I think I did the bodybuilding thing first in our group. Agreed, you did, and that became part of the identity too. So I decided I was going to do another show. One of the reasons is Matt, who you've heard many times on the show. He said hey, man, let's do a show together. You've already done a show. I've always wanted to do one. You know what it's like, let's do it. And I was like, all right, man, that's awesome, let's do that. That'll be awesome. Like what a unique bonding experience that'll be. And I don't know. I was probably like four weeks in and I remember I just was like I don't want to do this anymore, is good for me. I don't think this is physically good for me. And I had a cheat meal. My coach gave me a cheat meal and it was, I think it was, like steak potatoes. This is my cheat meal, steak potatoes, broccoli. And then he said you can have a half a pint of ben and jerry's.
Speaker 2So oh yeah okay so I had my talk about willpower, yeah, and I'm sure I'm.
Speaker 1I'm sure I measured it out.
Speaker 2You ever been a half a pint deep in Ben and Jerry's and then stopped. That day I did, that day you did.
Speaker 1I won't say I stopped, I delayed, so I ended up going to bed. I was like, all right, cool, I'm done, I'm done, I'm ready for bed. And I remember I was just laying in bed and I couldn't sleep and I was so hungry and I was like starting to get depressed again and I was like you know what, Fuck it, I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 1I'm not going to do it. So I I don't know what time it was, but I texted my coach and was like hey man, I'm not doing it, I can't do it, this is going to kill me If I do this again. I'm not doing it, I can't do this. I texted Matt and said hey man, vulnerable share. I didn't even know what that meant at the time. I don't think I can do this. I didn't even know what that meant at the time.
Speaker 2I didn't know at the time. Did you actually say that I'm miserable?
Speaker 1No no.
Speaker 2Oh, okay.
Speaker 1I'm miserable. Last time I was like suicidal when I got to the end of this. I don't think this is healthy for me and I want, if I can, do it for me. And that ended up being okay. He understood. I think he was sad, obviously, but then I went downstairs, I finished the pint of Ben Jerry's Because it's almost like I needed to put a close to it before I overthought it. Like I'm going to send an email today to my coach saying I need to cancel Because if I wait too long, I won't do it, because the emotion of this will leave and the logic of this will leave, and then it will be like well, let's try again. I know I'm not going to be able to do it. I won't say I'm not going to be able to do it. I know I won't do it. There's too many options up in the air. Do I go for a run? Do I go to jujitsu? Do I weight train?
Speaker 2Well, I really want to weight train can go to jujitsu, so I gotta go to jujitsu. I don't want. What if I don't want to? What if I want to be locked into a schedule?
Speaker 1is is challenging.
Speaker 1It's very challenging when most of our life is already that way I was gonna say, especially somebody whose number one core value is freedom, like being able, time freedom and location freedom. I can work anywhere in the world because I don't have to go to an office. I can, can. I mean, my schedule is very crazy, but that's okay, it's. It's still in the hours that I want to work and I get to work from home. So I had that that familiar feeling today of like, oh, am I going to let Derek down? And he was super, super kind and super supportive. He said, dude, you're good, don't worry about it. But that was a piece of it. And then what does this mean about my identity? Are people going to look at me differently? Like when I text my, when I text my coach and tell him I'm going to cancel? Is he going to look at me differently?
Speaker 2What would it mean if he looked at you differently? Though that's the thing is.
Speaker 1Let's get to the that I, that I let him down. What would that mean? That I was Emilia does this to me.
Speaker 2Love it, yeah, no, no, you're good, because this is, and for the listeners watching or listening, this isn't about Kev. Just, it isn't just about Kev. You can dig into what the fear is. You can just say well, what would that mean? What would that mean? What would that mean? Eventually, you get to the root.
Speaker 1Not good enough. Not good enough.
Speaker 2Right. Yeah, I think that would be the ultimate fear, which Now what we can do is. Is that true? Does that have any actual truth? Not logically no, yeah, but that's the thing, these emotions.
Speaker 2These emotions, we did an episode a while back on defective versus unlovable and the exile and all that stuff. But essentially what it means is two buckets. One bucket is not smart enough, not good-looking enough, not tall enough, not capable enough. The other bucket is unlovable. You don't fit in, you don't feel like you're likable, people lash out at you for no reason all the time. You feel like an outcast, that kind of stuff. I'm on that end, kev's on the not good enough end. At the end of the day, both of them are emotional, not rational, and they're usually built when we're very young.
Deepest fear
Speaker 1Yeah, Well, it's just. I think it's one of those things where you've got to be brave in the direction that you know you need to be brave in, and then you can dig and figure out. Okay, what does this actually mean? Because I thought that too. Why is this going to be so hard? I don't like quitting stuff. I have a tattoo that says never quit. I don't like quitting stuff. I'm not quitting. I'm going to end up going back at some point in the future. It's just right. Now is not the right time.
Speaker 2And I think the other piece of it is today. Just today was there any pains earlier of f this. I don't want to do jujitsu right now, or is it just today?
Speaker 1today. No, no, it's today because I woke up today. So today's tuesday usually today would be a day where I would go do open mat, and I love open mat. I do, I love it. I love the people there. It's awesome, it's awesome. It love the people there. It's awesome, it's awesome, the gym's amazing, everything's awesome. But I wanted to lift. I haven't lifted in two weeks. I want to lift, damn right, I want to get in the gym and lift. Nice, okay, but that so I'm going to go to jiu-jitsu once this week.
Speaker 2Yeah, and the money thing too. It's like a lot of money for barely using it.
Speaker 1It's also the guilt of you not using it.
Speaker 2That's a piece of it.
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Speaker 1That's a piece of it too right it's easier sometimes to just take away an option, like, let me just take this option away. I would rather regret getting rid of it than continue to regret not going. I know I'd rather just regret it and say, wow, I really miss that. I'd rather that, isn't it interesting?
Speaker 2that I can make a decision in the future sorry, is it interesting how it took a lot of courage for you to sign up for jujitsu, invest the money, go meet new people, roll on the mat with people that are black belts, all this stuff, and then how much courage it took to cancel, isn't it so courage is?
Speaker 2you can't win at anything without courage like I think it takes more to cancel really either way, I want to cancel I just don't know if for me, I never used to dude growing up. I don't know about you, but I didn't learn about courage at all. No one taught me anything about courage yeah same it's same you think about.
Regret and courage
Speaker 2If you don't have any courage meaning you can't face fears you pretty much are stuck forever. Everything, like everything that really moves the needle, requires some courage. It took courage to sign up. It takes even more courage to cancel it. You can't make any changes or transformations without courage. I just that's so obvious to me now. When I was younger I didn't understand that at all, because I don't think a lot of people identify that it's fear.
Speaker 2I think they identify well X, y, z. I think they rationalize when, deep underneath it is, I'm afraid to not be good enough, or I'm afraid. Y, z. I think they rationalize when, deep underneath it is, I'm afraid to not be good enough, or I'm afraid to look bad, or you know, even right now it's really good.
Speaker 1It's really hard for people to talk about stuff that they're not admitting that they're experiencing. That's that's always been one of the goals for me with this show and every, every interview I do, every show I do, every everything I do. I always try to admit the truth. Yeah, because how am I going to help you If I've never experienced imposter syndrome? Why would you ever listen to what I have to say about imposter syndrome?
Speaker 2You know, I don't.
Speaker 1I think I probably experience it. I know I experience it more than your average bird I do, because I'm thrown into positions that I'm not ready for. Alan and I were talking about me going to Toronto to be with Evan Carmichael. I'm nervous about that for sure. I've been doing this for seven years. We calculated yesterday I have 2,800 episodes or something total. Yeah, I'm still nervous. 2,800 episodes or whatever it was 25, 26. That's a lot of episodes. I'm still nervous.
Speaker 2I think most guys would get macho and not admit that.
Speaker 1Well, the problem with getting macho and not admitting it is. I think that hurts you more behind the scenes.
Speaker 2Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1The fall is higher from. I'm the man, I'm the man to like, I'm the man, I'm the man to like. I'm really freaking out. For me, I don't think the falls is high because I just admit I'm nervous. Yeah, I'm nervous. I think it's going to go fine, which is a believe it or not. That's a step up In the past, it would be. I'm nervous that it's going to go horribly. That's not what it is now. I'm nervous that I'm going to be outside of my comfort zone, and this is something I've never done before. I think that's totally normal. Of course, you're nervous before a first date. You don't know this person, you've never met this person. There's anxiety. What do I talk about? Do we talk about the?
Speaker 2weather.
Speaker 1Do I tell this person I want to marry them?
Admitting the truth
Speaker 2Probably not, but maybe Do I tell them I don't want to ever get married Like I did with my first girlfriend.
Speaker 1Right, right. Yeah, there's a lot of things up in the air.
Speaker 2I think it's big. I think it's really big that you do that. I think most men and again I'll just speak for men but I don't think they usually admit that they're afraid. I think it's not macho to admit you're afraid. I don't know where that came from. I think it's the most much I know, so do I. It's just right. Where did it come from? Where being completely unafraid and unfazed about anything is like strength, when in reality, behind the scenes, you are literally freaking out like?
Speaker 1pooping watch, watch a superhero. I know which one are. Which one are you going to rather watch Captain America or Captain Kev? Yeah, who's like you think we can make that jump? I don't know, man, I really think we should double you know, we should really think about that versus somebody who's like we might die here. But let's do it. We got this. That's not me, I'm not that guy. It's so funny.
Speaker 2It's so funny. I think your fears are either external or internal. Yours tend to be the external stuff, like canceling jiu-jitsu, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2But what does it mean about you internally too? So they're connected as well. But I think that's big. I do. Courage is necessary for anything, even simple stuff like that. We're talking about canceling a jiu-jitsu membership. How many people are doing things they don't want to do and or not doing things they do want to do out of fear? Most, most things? I mean, yeah, maybe it was aligned when you were 20 or 25. What if? What if you're 37 now, still doing the same thing with the same person and you are just too afraid to the fear of change. Man, huge fear of change is such a such a massive box we put ourselves in so well I think that's a good lesson is when you're when you're afraid of change.
Speaker 1Is it because you're afraid that you're not going to be able to handle it? Is it because the change is going to be outside of alignment with your core values? Is it because you feel like you're going backwards? You have imposter syndrome, because it means something about you that you're not ready to admit. I think that's a really good takeaway for this episode.
Speaker 2I've got to read something super fast. It's not long, please. It's not long.
Speaker 1I never believe when you say that yeah.
Speaker 2I know I understand why, man. There's a lot of evidence of the contrary.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2Alright. So there was a client of mine who admitted and didn't macho up and admitted she was super scared and I gave this list. I wrote this list out for her. I said number one feel the fear, feel the fear. Number one feel the fear, feel the fear. Okay, number one, feel the fear, that's a tough one. Number two admit it's fear. Number three don't rationalize it away as if it's something else. Most people royally F this up. I actually wrote that. Number four think through whatever or not it's actually, whether or not it's actually dangerous. Think through whether or not it's actually dangerous. It almost never is. Like you, canceling jujitsu I can't talk right now is not dangerous. No, there's no actual physical danger but yet your amygdala, your brain.
Speaker 2You're freaking out. What does this mean? Am I going to be okay? Is I'm going to be okay? I cannot talk today. Number five detach from outcome and mourn the loss of worst case scenario in advance. Okay, what's the worst case scenario when you cancel a jiu-jitsu?
Speaker 1Like absolute worst case, yeah, I don't even know. Like absolute worst case, yeah, I don't even know where.
Speaker 2uh, the coach is like come on, yeah, but you put up on a wall of shame somewhere kevin palmer didn't make it yeah, they put you up on the wall. This is the quick kid?
Speaker 1they don't really, but yeah, that would be the worst case scenario is they?
7-step process to manage fear
Speaker 2they make a special exception our brains can can come up with all kinds of stuff. It's so funny. And then, number six say F it, feel the fear and do it anyways. And then, number seven gain new awareness, self-respect, confidence and self-esteem, when it almost always goes even better than you thought it would. Those are the seven steps.
Speaker 2Feel the fear, admit it's fear. Don't rationalize it away as if it's something else, because most people do that. That's where they screw up. They pretend it's not fear. Of course it is.
Speaker 2Think through whether or not it's actually dangerous. Almost never is detached from the outcome, more in the loss of worst case scenario in advance. So just if, if they were to put you up on the wall of shame, you would still be okay, even though that's ridiculous. They aren't going to do that. Say F it, feel the fear and do it anyways. And then you gain new awareness, self-respect, confidence and self-esteem. And, most importantly, new awareness. You will learn things you never would have learned. Imagine if you had never had the courage to even start jujitsu. And this is the thing. I don't know why I can't say that word. Last thing this is the last thing for me you needed courage to sign up and when you signed up you learned a bunch of stuff, met new people, learned a bunch of stuff. We talked about it on this show a bunch Yep.
Speaker 2All new expansion, expansion, expansion, expansion. Then it requires even more courage to leave. This is why I'm convinced people are not more successful when you go to the next level. It gets harder, not easier. It requires more courage, not less. So every domino of courage that you knock down, you're going to need even more courage. Next domino, like we talked about yesterday, we have more clients than we've ever had, but we've also lost more clients than we used to lose. It's like your ability to handle failure needs to come up in tandem with your ability to create success, and I think that each next level comes with a new level of responsibility and potential failure and potential embarrassment and potential judgment and potential.
Speaker 2So all of it is you kind of just have to learn how to face your fears internally in advance. A lot of my coaching has to do with that. It's what's the fear here? And then let's discuss it, let's identify it, let's feel it and let's mourn it in advance. If that were to happen, would you be okay? And they go, yeah, I guess so Well. And then after that they do the thing, and that opens up a whole new fear, and that opens up a whole new fear. It opens up a whole new. My coaching sounds awful. It does, yeah. It opens up a whole new opportunity, which then comes with another level of fear. And I, I, I think in our life, we, we think, oh, when I get to a certain point, I won't be afraid.
Living with courage
Speaker 1That is, that is not true at Not if you're growing, not if you're growing. Look, you know how long I've been waiting for an opportunity to do what I'm going to go do in Toronto. I've been waiting for a long time for that opportunity Long time.
Speaker 1But it doesn't mean it doesn't scare the poop out of me. Of course it does. It's an opportunity that I've been waiting for, and you know why I didn't get it? Because I wasn't ready yet. And you know why I'm scared? Because I'm not fully ready. I'm as close to ready as I can be. It's not like I'm not capable, but when I say I'm not ready, I'm just not familiar with the turf yet. I don't know what it's like. That's all there's. There's uncertainty there.
Speaker 2There's uncertainty of, of logistics circumstances You've given podcast speeches with LB before Right yes, virtual trainings and stuff like that and thousands of coaching calls.
Speaker 1Yeah, but again, it's all logical. Yeah, yeah, it's all logical. But I think that's another really good takeaway and we talked about that yesterday behind the scenes that one of the most important reasons for facing fears is because you're going to have to do it forever, and the sooner you just start facing your fears, the more you'll realize that. Oh, yeah, here's a series of fears that I faced and here are the results I got. Based on that, this is actually probably pretty good for me, but you've got to start somewhere.
Speaker 1So, wherever that is maybe it's signing up to something, maybe it's canceling something. Maybe it's signing up to something, maybe it's canceling something. Maybe it's saying yes to something, maybe it's saying no to something, maybe it's sticking up for yourself, maybe it's sticking up for someone else, whatever. Whatever it is, that is what I would end with. Alright, if you are looking for a group of amazing human beings who are into self-improvement, into growth, figuring out the ego, confidence, self-worth, all of that stuff, please join our private Facebook group, next Level Nation. We'll have the link in the show notes. We're all looking for a positive community and that's exactly what Next Level Nation is.
Speaker 2We have a monthly meetup coming up One second June 6th, 2024, 5 pm. So we're switching them to 5 pm Eastern Standard Time. This is meetup number 30, how to get more of the right stuff done. So I talked on yesterday's episode about how to design your life around your priorities, because a lot of times what happens is the things that we care about most are our second, third, fourth or fifth, and there's certain things that all of us do every single day Brush our teeth, shower. There's certain things we do every day. How do we make the things that are most important become the things that we do every single day?
Speaker 2I also want to talk about something called a keystone habit. When there's an arch, there's a stone at the top that holds the whole arch together. What's the keystone habit that holds your whole world together? For me, it's the dreamliner. When I don't do my, I just my pen just whipped across the room. When I don't do my dreamliner, I am less centered. Even Emilia's commented on that. She's like you do your dreamliner. I'm like, nope, she's like I can tell I just don't have my rails for the day. There's something about a grounding practice first thing in the morning. That'll change the game. Next level. Monthly meetup number 30 how to get more of the right stuff done. June 6th, 5 pm, eastern standard time. The registration link will be in the show notes all right.
Speaker 1So we don't know what we're doing tomorrow for episode number 1718 because we're jeffing, but we will figure it out and get ahead and all that happy jazz in the very near future. As always, we love you, we you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you. And at NLU, we do not have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 2Live with courage. Next Level Nation.