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#1729 - Being Consistent Isn't Enough…

Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

In this episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros talk about why just being regular isn’t enough for growth. They discuss how some people are good at doing their jobs but still don’t see significant changes. They tell their own stories and observations to show how trying to get better, not just finishing jobs, leads to real success. Listen in to learn how to mix being regular with good ways to grow.

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Show notes:
(2:02) This is the key
(3:53) Personal anecdote about consistency and checking boxes
(5:47) Real-life examples from the gym
(8:10) Next Level Dreamliner: the planner, agenda, journal, and habit tracker to rule them all. Get a copy: https://a.co/d/f1FWAQA
(10:24) Efficiency vs. effectiveness
(13:06) Balancing productivity and multitasking
(14:52) Outro

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Speaker 1:

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode, episode number 1728, what's your Relationship With Productivity? Alan just took the pop filter. Well, it's not a pop filter. I guess it's a foam cover-up of his mic, as he does sometimes when he's testing his mic, and it always makes me laugh. Foam cover up of his mic, as he does sometimes when he's testing his mic, and it always makes me laugh.

Speaker 1:

Today for episode number 1729, being consistent isn't enough. I, alan and I were having a conversation before this episode and I said why do you think it is like I'm? I can think of 20 people off the top of my head that are super consistent. They never miss, they're always doing the stuff that they're supposed to be doing, but it doesn't seem like they're making any progress. Why do you think that is? And he said I don't know. Well, he didn't say I don't know. He said why do you think it is? And I said because I don't think they're actually focused on improvement. I think they're focused on output. Checking the box, checking the box, so like podcast episode done. I remember one time I went on a podcast that had as many episodes as we have.

Speaker 2:

There was only one. There's only been one Same by the way and I was like this is going to be yeah, this is going to be awesome, not the same show.

Speaker 1:

I don't think, oh, I don't remember this was a minute ago and what I'm going to say isn't necessarily the most kind thing, so I wouldn't say their name anyway, most likely. But I remember I was blown away at how disheveled everything was. I know in Like, you guys must be learning so much all the time and it was like no, I think they're probably just checking the box. Okay, whatever, that's their prerogative, that's up to them. That's not the way I want to do it, but them being consistent just isn't enough.

Speaker 1:

Consistency plus improvement is the key, and that's what I said to Alan. I said I just don't think. I don't think they're as focused on improvement. Maybe they don't know what they need to improve, maybe they don't have the strategy yet, Maybe they already think everything is good enough and nothing is good enough. There's always room for improvement, room for growth. But that I really want to touch on that because a really good example. I have a really good example of this. A really good example. I have a really good example of this. There was a time where I did 100% of my PPT, my peak performance tracking, for like four months straight. I didn't miss a day.

Speaker 2:

I got 100%. Monday, tuesday, wednesday. You were like I don't think I'm ever going to miss again. Yeah, yeah. Very rarely has Kevin been cocky. Every now and then it comes out.

Speaker 1:

I get a little arrogant. Here's the truth. Alan said to me at one point he's like Kev, and I think Alan knew I needed this for my self-worth and I needed this to identify somebody who is consistent. So it was really good for me. But he said, kev, I would much rather you get 75% and grow than get 100% and just check the box. And that was a really good example of this. I probably could have got 100% with that system for a longer period of time, but I started getting 75s when I focused more on improvement.

Speaker 1:

This goes to the Lori Harder quote of consistent 70% days are better than spotty 100s. Those spotty 100 days are maybe the ones that you're being super consistent but you're not growing. The 70% days are the ones where you're being consistent but you're also growing. There's a big difference between doing seven workouts a week and then doing five workouts a week that are really really good. So where you're focused on growing and you're focused on and again, whatever the, it doesn't have to be a workout. It could be a coaching call, it could be a training session, it could be a run, it could be a whatever. But yeah, that that's. I think it's an easy thing to forget because you pat yourself on the back and say I'm so glad I did this.

Speaker 2:

No-transcript so there's two individuals at the gym that I'll keep anonymous that I. I'm a behavioral analyst. Kevin's wife, taryn, is a behavioral analyst, actually with a master's degree in that I just am a am a self identified behavioral analyst.

Speaker 2:

What's wrong with that? I try to study human beings, so I understand human beings, so I can help human beings. It's a really cool little equation, but anyway. So I'm always studying people in the gym. I try really hard to observe and see who's who and what's what. I think we all do to some extent, and there's two individuals that I think are a really good example of this, and I actually respect and admire both of these people a ton. One of them is extremely consistent. One of them is extremely consistent. They're both actually pretty consistent, but one of them is never misses this dude. He's probably in his mid to late 40s, if not early 50s. He's an awesome guy and he just works really hard and he never misses this dude.

Speaker 2:

We've been so, emilia and I have I actually calculated this yesterday. We've been so, emilia and I have our. I actually calculated this yesterday. So, as of march 1st 2022 I forget the number of days, but I I divided it by 365 it's 2.26 years. So two and a quarter years we've not missed a day of exercise soccer, basketball, walking, weight training, whatever swimming counts, all of it. So two years and a quarter, I've I've exercised every day for at least 30 minutes. We've actually upped it to 35 recently and we've actually been able to hold the line on that for a while now, which is good, but anyway. So when I say he's consistent, I mean it. I never not see this guy.

Speaker 2:

Okay, here's the thing. He's not in that great of shape And's this interesting thing. Now, again, for his age he is and the work matters and him being consistent matters and it's definitely making a difference. But you're not going to be like if you were to calculate how consistent this dude is and you were to look at the numbers of that, you would be like that person must be unbelievably in shape. I mean, I would love to be them at the beach type of thing. But if you saw the guy you'd be like, yeah, he probably works out, but not really respect, admire him a lot, he works really hard and he's super consistent, but I don't think he's very improvement oriented. I I don't get that impression.

Speaker 2:

Now there's this other dude in the gym who is not nearly as consistent as the first guy and he honestly, I don't even know if he works. Yeah, he works as hard when he's there. This dude is jacked. I mean, he's got quads that are like he's just looks good, he's, he's doing it and he's doing it right. And what I mean by right is he got fat all winter, for lack of better phrasing, to build muscle.

Speaker 2:

And now, in the summer, you're seeing all that work because, dude, in the, in the, in the winter and again in the bodybuilding world again, I understand that a lot of our listeners are not bodybuilders. We are and we're just being us. So there's metaphors here. We're going to use fitness all the time. So in the winter you basically put on muscle and get kind of pudgy for lack of better phrasing, in order to rip it up in the summer and burn the fat, keep the muscle type of thing, and you lose some of the muscle. But this dude has retained his muscle very well and we're seeing the progress he made over the winter, because I remember in the winter me being like I don't know man, I know you're bulking, but you're bulking.

Speaker 1:

Right, you ever see someone on a dirty bulk.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you've gone too far on the bulk. I remember one time Kevin called himself a tick. I went too far. He went too far, couldn't even tie his own shoes. Man, I cannot tie my toes still to this day.

Speaker 2:

To this day. I can't tie my toes. I know we got to get out of here, but so this guy is now cutting it up. He's on the Stairmaster all the time. Now you can tell he's in a cut again and he's strong and he works, but he's only probably doing four days a week. But when he's there, he's there for an hour, hour and 15. And he really works and he's doing it right.

Speaker 2:

And a lot of bodybuilding is diet, exercise and diet. Those are the two biggest ones. And then there's sleep, hydration and nutrition sleep hydration and mobility, so that you don't get injured, you can repair and recover muscle. All that the point is is guy number one is way more consistent and genuinely works harder I'm not kidding, works harder. His results are nothing compared to this other guy. This other guy is just way more effective.

Speaker 2:

And what I want to really share with everybody is this idea between efficiency and effectiveness. Emilia and I, we have this healthy discord constantly about. I think she's more efficient than I am and I think I'm more effective than she is. She is more focused. So Conscious Couples podcast. I want an hour and a half. I want to ideate, I want to think about it, I want to talk about it. I want to make sure we're on the same page, because you and I we've been doing this for longer. We don't need that much time.

Speaker 2:

Dude this stuff with Conscious Couples Podcast. I don't know it as well, and her and I don't have as many reps as you and I do. So we need more time, and I said I want an hour and a half. Every time we record one, she's like well, the episode's only 20 minutes. Can't we just jump in the office 30 minutes and do it? I can't just jump on the mic. We're not as good as Kevin and I, and so I want to be effective and make the and not to mention Conscious Couples podcast. We only do one a week. This better be a good episode, and this is new too. We're building a brand Like NLU. You know you can trust this is going to be good. We've done it long enough to where we can show up rock and roll. Make it happen.

Speaker 2:

At CCP we're still in the early stages. We need to not only identify topics and titles still that resonate, but we aren't at the same level. And so, anyways, efficiency versus effective, just like when we talked about productivity. Are you on the R&R side, who needs to force systems and processes to be more productive? Or are you on the productivity side who needs to force systems and processes to be more R&R? Same with this. This is efficiency versus effectiveness. The first dude is very efficient he gets in, he does the work and he gets out.

Speaker 1:

The second dude is very efficient he gets in, he does the work and he gets out the second dude is extremely effective.

Speaker 2:

He doesn't work out every day, but when he works out, he works out and he does the right things behind the scenes to make sure that that hour and 15 minutes is world-class. And the dude's not talking to anyone. When he's in the gym he's not looking at anyone, he just grinds it out. And so I think all of us are more focused on efficiency or effectiveness, and I think there's value to both. You're much more effective than you are efficient. I think Emilia is more efficient than she is effective.

Speaker 2:

I think I'm more effective than I am efficient. That's one of the reasons why I'm not on time is because I don't like to do anything poorly and I'm very discerning with what I do and don't do, and so a lot of times I'll get caught in flow with a task and then I'll be seven minutes late because I didn't want to not do that to its fullest, and so it's kind of like knocking down individual dominoes versus trying to simultaneously do a bunch of stuff, and I know the dynamic mothers that are listening are. Multitasking is probably more of a necessity for you than it is for Kevin and I, and I don't like multitasking personally. I think there's a time and a place for it. But if you're on the multitasking side, where you have 12 tabs open, you are most likely more efficient than me, but you're not as effective, and vice versa Again, at the end of the day it's a drive to five between efficiency and effectiveness.

Speaker 1:

All is, isn't it? Such is life. The drive to five if you will. We have one minute and I will say something in it, in this one minute. Say something hopefully worth remembering.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't have anything. And that's that. What are your thoughts on efficiency versus effectiveness?

Speaker 1:

I honestly don't think I've thought about it enough to speak effectively on it. I need more time to discuss and ask questions. I'm like well, what's the definition? What's the definition? We don't have time, we don't have time. I can see your gear, your Alan's gears, start winding and his mouth starts opening slowly, and then he wants to say something we don't have time.

Speaker 1:

I would just say ask yourself are you really good at improvement, Are you really good at being consistent? Because if you do something once a year, you're probably not going to be able to improve it that much. We only do meetups every month. It would be really hard to just improve those because there's not enough reps, we don't have enough input. But we do group coaching every other week and we do an episode every day, so it makes it a little bit easier. I can imagine, if you only do one event a year, probably really hard to improve it a ton. So that's what I would say All right, Next Level Nation.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Stay effective Next civilization.

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