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#1731 - Where’s Your Happiness Setpoint?
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In this episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros talk about your “energy level” and how it shapes your day-to-day life. They chat about why some people are naturally more energetic or calm and how this affects how they get along with others. They share their experiences and ideas on handling energy, beating self-doubt, and why being with the right people is essential. Whether you’re more of a quiet person, a lively one, or a bit of both, you’ll get helpful tips to understand and adjust your energy level for a happier life.
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(2:17) Discussion on life temperature and seasonal adjustments
(3:26) Energy levels in social and private settings
(7:08) Connection between energy levels, self-belief, and anxiety
(9:50) Leadership and energy dynamics
(11:32) The impact of energetic environments and coaching insights on energy matching
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Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode, episode number 1730, the Balance of Selfish vs Selfless. Today I feel like an actor. I'm looking at my lines and then looking at you. Today for episode number 1731, where's your Happiness? Setpoint. So we very rarely do this, but Alan felt pulled. Very rarely will we do an episode, talk about something and then go deep on something and say we should really do another episode on that and then do it right after. Usually it goes into the annals of time to never be heard of or spoken of again. So we talked a little bit about this on yesterday's episode. Alan said he'd like to do it back to back. He said I feel like it'd be a really good flow and I said cool, I don't know where I'm going to go with it, but you wanted to do the episode, so where would you like to start?
Speaker 2So on the last episode, to provide context, if anyone missed it, we talked about the temperature of your life, for lack of better phrasing. So most people like to keep their house on 70. When it's wintertime, usually you try to keep it on like 72 to 74. When it's summertime, usually you keep it at like 68, 66. 66? What do you keep it at 69.
Speaker 1Whatever man, it's the same range. No 66, that's cold.
Speaker 2Three degrees makes a big difference that's fair but in the summer you try to keep it lower, and in the winter you try to keep it higher, right? Yeah, I would say that's fair, yeah, yeah yeah, because human beings want what they don't have. Of course, yeah, even though the second it gets hot, it's like, oh man, I really miss the.
Speaker 1The second it gets hot, it's like, oh man, I really miss the winter. The second it gets cold, it's like, wow, I really miss the summer.
Speaker 2It's the whole thing. That is the human condition. Yes, it is. But in the metaphor I have a client who reached out to me recently and said that really rocked me. What you said I said you fly lower energetically. What you said I said you fly lower energetically.
Discussion on life temperature and seasonal adjustments
Speaker 2And the frame here is when you go out to public and you are with people, do you have to, do you feel like you have to dial yourself up to hang, or do you feel like you have to dial yourself down to hang? And I don't mean intellectually, I mean energetically. So for me, down to hang, and I don't mean intellectually, I mean energetically. So for me, when I'm hanging out with other people, usually I have to dial my intensity and my focus and my energy down. I just have to settle down. When I'm with emilia, I don't have to do that almost at all, because she just flies high in her energy. I came into, I went to her office earlier today and she was in such an intense energy and I never used to Know the energy stuff. This is fairly new in my 30s. I love it, and now I'm seeing that everywhere. I mean when you see an older person who's struggling to walk. They're just a lower energy and I'm seeing them as energetic. We're all energetic beings, that kind of thing. So not only are they in pain, but they're lower energy. So you can tell when someone's really high intensity and high energy.
Energy levels in social and private settings
Speaker 2There's certain characters in films that have a really intense energy. So, for example, iron man is a good example. A lot of people love the Avengers movies. Iron man is a very high energy, cognitive energy. He's always on. He's caffeine, he's always on. So if you're resonating with that, you are 80 degrees and that's your normal.
Speaker 2If you tend to be down and sad and lower energy and we even say it when you're down, what are you down? You're, you're lower energy. When you're flying high, you're out. We're going to take on the town tonight. We're going to do it. What do you tend to be on? Do you tend to be on that energy or do you tend to be down and low and so you've got 80, you've got 70, and you've got 60. Do you tend to be at the 60 point and you have to really dial yourself up to be in public, or do you tend to be at 80,? You have to really dial yourself up to be in public, or do you tend to be at 80? You have to really dial yourself down.
Speaker 2Kevin said a great quote that I adore, that I'll say probably forever. You are afraid that all of you is either not enough or all of you is too much. So I am afraid that all of me is too much. So you I used to dial myself down a lot. I try not to now, but I still do sometimes.
Speaker 2Kev, I think, is on the other, or at least used to be on the other end. I think it's coming up over time and I do think you can change this over time. I think part of what growth is is going from 61 to 62 to 63 to 64, and again, this depends on state. So if your pet passed away today, you might be normally at 80, and you might be at 55, okay, so just understand that there's a moment to moment emotional state, physical state, spiritual state, mental state and then there's a macro set point. We're talking about the set point today, so my set point tends to be higher.
Speaker 2So me up is way too up and me down might be your up, and that's the the frame here and that's what my client was really going through is realizing. Oh, that's why I feel like I have to puff up all the time when I'm in public because I don't feel like I'm enough around some of these other people a lot of the introvert, extrovert thing too. But for kev, I wanted you to articulate for you what what it's been like to work with someone who's more up and and how hard it's been for you, but also what your experience has been about how that's grown and evolved over time, because I think I'm realizing that a lot of not only my clients but our community members it would benefit all of us to really see where we're at on this and what's our natural, so that we can make decisions that are more appropriate for our own set point.
Speaker 1I don't think it's this simple, but I, if I was to think of all of the people that I have observed as being lower temperature, lower thermometer, lower set point, I think it has to do with self-belief and I think it has to do with anxiety. Those would be the two things that I think I've probably noticed In the one of the okay, one of the hard. This is always one of the hard things. When you and I would go to events, I would always be like events. I would always be like waiting till we could be done for the night, like waiting until, okay, we met this person, we met this person, we're going to do this. Okay, let's go say hi to those people before we leave, and then are we done Like we're good after that. Right, Because that's how I need to see the light at the end of the tunnel. If I see the light at the end of the tunnel, I can put on a smile and do it.
Connection between energy levels, self-belief, and anxiety
Speaker 1Not that I'm not happy, not that I'm not excited and I think I'm weird in this too, because it's not because I don't even know how to explain it. Like when I go out, let's say, I go to the grocery store or something I don't have to do anything, I'm fine. It get energetically high. It's just whether or not I want to be energetically open. It's more that of like I know I could have a conversation with this person or this person or this person if I wanted to. It's just like am I willing to do that right now? It's like a conscious thought.
Speaker 1Sometimes. I'm just like I'm not going to do it, like I'm just going to check out and I'm not going to try to start a conversation with this person. I'm just going to get through the line and I'm going to go home. It really depends. It depends on the day. So I would say, on on my end, my experience working with, with someone who's higher, on the temperature, the uh, what is it? Thermometer, thermostat it's almost like I am relying on you to get us to those bases that we have to get to, and then it's like I'll see what I can do when I'm at the base, but I'm never going to take us to the next base I had a moment with you and I when I was sick and I had a moment with my ea at the time.
Speaker 2Shout out to jerry ann where I. This was really good for me, but I hope this is valuable for all the listeners too. I do think it will be. I was super. It was the first time I had gotten sick in nine years and I felt again terrible is probably over exaggerating. I felt like, oh, this really sucks. It's hard to sustain my life when I'm well, never mind when I'm sick. This is brutal. And again, brutal is relative because, let's be honest, I had the sniffles, okay.
Speaker 2That said, I remember I had a meeting with jerryann and I was like, oh, you have to carry us. This is like the first time. This is nothing against jerryann, jerryann, I know you're listening. I just fly higher than she does. She struggles with her energy levels, she's doing a mold detox and she's also a mother of four doing a million things. So I'm again, but I would say her set point is lower than mine energetically. I do know that to be true, and so does she. So she's not gonna be offended that I say that now, at the end of the day.
Speaker 2I remember sitting there in that meeting, going. This might be the first time we've ever had a meeting and we've had many, many, many, many, many, many meetings, jerry and I, where I am not going to be able to carry us. I need you to put me on your back and carry us to the, to the, and I had a few moments like that with you as well. That's, I think, a good tell of where you are is. Do you feel like you and honestly I'm starting to connect a lot of dots here I think leadership might be whoever has the highest energetic uh, I think it's certain power.
Leadership and energy dynamics
Speaker 2Yeah, because if your phone battery drains, the way that I see it is, if you and I were to go work out and we were to do strength training, you would destroy me. If we were to go work out and do like a decathlon where we did cardio, running, sprinting, all of it, I know that I would be higher, and the reason why is holistic energy. I have higher, but you're just way better than me at a couple things and you, I think that when it comes to your set point, I think it's holistic energy we're talking about here and you've talked about before you come here and the first moment before you see me, you say that it's a little bit intimidating or nerve-wracking or whatever.
Speaker 1It's intense. It's intense, yeah, very intense. Your household with Emilia is a very intense energy.
Speaker 2It's a very intense energy. Yes, not a bad one.
Speaker 1Okay, Not a bad one. Okay, Not a bad energy. It's just intense. You know it's, I don't know it's. It's like you said earlier. I feel like energy is always something I've been focused on. I don't know if I could explain it, though.
Speaker 2Yeah, if I ever could explain it to you, it wasn't on my radar at all. You definitely in hindsight. The more I've learned about it, the more you. It's obvious that it was on your radar more than you thought it's just, it's, yeah, it's just.
Speaker 1Like when you go in, it's just I get. There was times where I would get anxious. I would literally be anxious. I was like, why the hell am I anxious right now? Like I'm fine, like what did I? Did I eat something? It was like no, I think I'm just. It's just a very intense, dialed in, uh, intentional energy. Yeah, I don't, I don't know I would have to think more about it to like effectively explain it, but it's a very heavy energy. I think that's the best way to put it.
The impact of energetic environments and coaching insights on energy matching
Speaker 2One last thing that I think is going to be unbelievably valuable for everyone as well you and I have coached people two to one, meaning three people on a session and we've coached them individually as well. And so kevin and I had a client for a long time and we adore this person, still still do and we had a three-way zoom coaching session collaboration, and kev afterwards was like dude, I've never seen an ego from her in my entire life and I was like that's exactly how she always is. What are you talking about? What if she's mirroring and matching my energy, and the delta that you're sensing energetically is something she doesn't have to turn on. For you, very possible, and everyone's always said this Kevin's a lot more easygoing than you, energetically easygoing. And I think there's something to be said, too For people out there that feel too much for others.
Speaker 2I think that might be what this is. So if you're out there and you do feel like you're too much for other people, not only do I see you, I hear you, I feel you holy crap, like that's a thing but for people who feel like they have to constantly turn it on and they feel like they're being inauthentic when they do that because I'm sure there was a time, kevin the past, where I remember the very first time you ever interviewed me and you came in hot with energy. That was probably fairly inauthentic yeah, I would say so because you're turning something on that isn't real yet.
Speaker 2And I think that's what people are trying to saying when they say fake it till you make it. Trying to saying, trying to say when they say fake it till you make it. But I think it gets all messed up because then there's that whole thing. But at the end of the day, it's very obvious to me in hindsight that you have always been focused on energy with people and it's very obvious to me in hindsight that you have always been focused on energy with people. And it's been fascinating for me to see the world through that lens, because now I get it and now I understand. And here's the thing too your energetic state determines how you see everything.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2When I'm down, dude, everything seems more hopeless and more helpless.
Speaker 1I think that's why I have I don't want to say more empathy than you, because I don't mean it like that, but I have yeah I know what it's like to be just down.
Speaker 1Because I'm down, like I know what it's like. I know what it's like there is a part of me that likes getting sick because I don't have to do anything. Like there is a part of me that's like, yeah, cool, I don't have to get out of bed today. Like there is a piece of me that enjoys that physically enjoys that I'm not thinking like I'm missing out. That's just not the way I'm naturally wired. That's not the way I'm naturally wired.
Speaker 1Have days where, like I look at my calendar and I know you get it, I know you, you experience it, but it's probably different where I think to myself like I physically don't know if I'm gonna get through the day, like I'm not sure if I can do back to back to back without like not burning out. It's like it's really gonna suck. Not that I can't do it, but it's like it's really gonna suck. This is really, really, really, really going to suck, and I know I can't do it, but it's like it's really going to suck. This is really, really, really, really going to suck, and I know you have those days. I just wonder if the suck is different.
Speaker 2The experience I had pre-marathon. Let me actually share this. I had an experience. I did a timed mile recently. I had the moment I had.
Speaker 1I told Em had the moment I had. I told him she's like well, what are you going for? It was me, her and tucker alone at the track.
Speaker 2It was a wonderful evening tucker does running, does he run? Uh, he jogs it's. Yeah, I was gonna say he's great, he's got run. He's so floofed, he's so floofed, he's, he does well, man, he hikes mountains. He does great job.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm very proud of very not aerodynamic though, so I imagine it not at all. You know what I mean not at all.
Speaker 2Uh, he does a good job and I pick him up when I need to, because when he gets really, really, really tired, I'll, I'll. It's a tucker football, that's what it is, yeah he's, he's adorable, but anyway. So before the time to mile, I had the anxious moment, it's like, because emilia asked what are you going for? I said I'm gonna go for six. I feel like I can do six, and she saw the doubt in my eyes. She saw it. She's like come on, come on you can do it.
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Speaker 2Come on, I'm like honey, I don't know, I don't know if you have context to a six minute mile. She's like I know, state and prove, let's go. You got this. And she said even even you're either gonna do it or you're going to get humble pie, let's rock. And I'm like okay. So you pulled me out of it and I was going for six. I thought worst case scenario, seven, ended up at 709. And I'm telling you, I trucked, I'm sitting there going. Did I count the laps wrong? Like I was trucking? Holy crap, humble pie. So for the runners out there, wow so seven, seven minutes, nine seconds for the mile, and, granted, it's after a long week exercise every day for two and a quarter years, blah, blah, blah doesn't matter. Here's my point. When you sit there and say I don't know if I can do this physically, I don't know if I can physically do this. I have that moment every now and then with things like that it's. I don't think I can do this.
Speaker 2I had the intuitive moment physically it's it's mentally physically I can do it I know I can do.
Speaker 1I can sit through calls all day. It's not that it's the mental, energetically it's like energetically. I don't know if I can do this, yeah more than physically.
Speaker 2The self-doubt moments are brutal oh yeah, they're the worst I, I hope we can, and I would learn from you more than me with this, but self-doubt dude, if you can learn how to overcome that yeah, you're, you're, you are I don't want to say unstoppable, again, that's bumper sticker self-improvement.
Speaker 1If you can learn how to overcome self-doubt, even little by little, your life I'm telling you it sounds so stupid your life can look drastically different in a few years. Drastically, because that's probably the biggest thing. That's probably the biggest thing. How many people out there are people that want to speak but they're afraid to speak? How many people out there have a crush on someone deeply and you'd be a wonderful partner to that person? We don't know them right, but we don't. You know, I don't know if they'll be a great partner to you, but you'd be a wonderful partner. And the only reason you haven't found the right person is because you haven't asked them yet. That's the one of the hardest things in the world self-doubt. Self-doubt is such a it's such a brutal thing. It's such a brutal thing. It's such a brutal thing.
Speaker 1I think the one of the best things again, not to speak arrogantly about me, one of the best things for me is realizing how much self-doubt I have, because at least I'm honest about it and I don't lie about it and it's not like, oh no, I know I can do anything I set my mind to. I don't. I don't believe I can do anything. I set my mind to I believe I can do something. After I start doing it and it's like, oh okay, the air isn't as thin up here as I thought it would be. Okay, cool, cool, cool. That's why I'm comfortable speaking, because I just have so many reps.
Overcoming self-doubt and its effects on energy
Speaker 1But there are certain things that I'm not that comfortable doing yet because I haven't done them that often. And that's just the way I am. I'm somebody I need to do something to believe in it. Seeing is believing. I understand that a lot of people say that Seeing is believing. For me, experiencing is believing. When I experience something, I believe it. Before that it's really hard to imagine. So yeah, it's. I think we all have those moments, but I think they're different, in different contexts, around different people. I had somewhere I was going to go before the running story how do people overcome self-doubt?
Speaker 2Because I just I don't know if this works for other people, but I just say I kind of just whatever do it, you're going to get humble pie. The only reason I did the timed mile was for the humble pie.
Speaker 1Well, yeah, but you need humility because you have such high belief. The last thing somebody else needs to not do a timed mile and they just need to try to run a mile and see what happens, or not even. Maybe it's you run for five minutes, depends, depends on where your set point is. I think the best thing to do is get around someone like you who's going to make them do stuff they don't want to do, but you can't villainize them. You can't villain you you, on my end. You can't villainize the person who's trying to push you beyond what you're currently capable of, because that's the best way to do. I wouldn't have done most of the stuff I wouldn't have done. I wouldn't have gone to the events and I wouldn't have gone to the island party. I wouldn't have gone to the events and I wouldn't have gone to the island party and I wouldn't have done this and I wouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1Yeah, no way If peer pressure influences.
Speaker 2You just find the right peer pressure. You know that's such an important thing. I think that's what half my coaching clients want from me is just I'm just going to always push them.
Strategies for pushing beyond comfort zones
Speaker 1It's a safety net. You're not in a bad way but like it's okay. There's a lot of people that it's not okay to fail around because they'll make fun of you. I fail around you, you fail around me. It happens all the time, every day, and nobody's ever made on the team. I went on an interview recently. It was I think it was called Heart Led Business. It was all about heart. Why is heart so important for your business? And we were talking about that, about failing. It's like I'm going to fail more than anybody on the team. For sure. I have failed more in the last seven years than anybody on the team will ever fail while on the team, just because I've had to. I've done so many things and you've failed more than I have because you've done more things and you're leading us. But I was talking about how the reason, the reason it's easier to fail on our team is because we're we're all about it and we'll never make you feel bad for failing, never make you feel wrong for failing.
Speaker 2Yeah, effort, that's what it's about. Effort's there, we're good.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, but it's not.
Speaker 1it's not like that.
Speaker 2with with everything, yeah, but it's not like that with everything, effort and humility is what I think matters. I would agree and yeah, I'm so grateful for the NLU team with that. That's awesome.
Speaker 1We have the best team because everybody I think everybody is open to. One of the reasons we have a great team is because people admit where they are, not always right away, because they don't know where they are necessarily. But that's one of the beautiful things of having a team of heart-driven humans who are humble is they say like honestly, I don't believe I can do that, I'm not sure I don't think I can lead this department, or I don't think I can do this or I can do this.
Speaker 2Yeah, that means you probably can, most likely, that's. The first thing I need to hear is that I just need someone to push you.
Speaker 1yeah, exactly yeah and say like, hey, just try this and don't worry about it if you make any mistakes, that's all like go sit in a dark room not really, but go sit in a dark room and play around with the toy, and if you break the toy you can. You can put it back together. And if you break it again, you can put it back together. And then just come to me when you think the toy is done, and then we'll take a look at it, and then we'll go from there and we'll figure it out.
Speaker 2You know that's good, Very good. Shout out to Laura. She's my EA now and I told her this. I said you've been a nurse. She nursed for 25 years. She was nursing in Spain, she was a nurse in all kinds of places and I said this isn't life, Don't worry about it. Like, listen, no one's going to die. That's the cool thing. This is not life or death.
Speaker 1You make a mistake on my Zoom link, the stakes are much lower. That's what I was saying.
Embracing failure and fostering a supportive team environment
Speaker 2I said I appreciate how much you care about being thorough and getting it right. I do. It's a duality. I appreciate that. But if you get my zoom link wrong, we're good, like it's okay, don't worry about it if the video uploads wrong. This isn't. Nursing is, in some cases, life or death. That's not what we're doing here. So that's really helped a lot. I feel like she's learned how to fail forward a ton. I feel like that's one of the. We used to talk about it all the time. I I feel like maybe we talk about it. We don't call it fail forward as much yeah, yeah, but uh what were we talking?
Speaker 1about originally on this episode. Oh, we were talking about a lot of stuff the thermometer what?
Speaker 1real quick, because we got to go. I don't again. Alan said how long do we want to make these episodes? Because I don't know the second we switched our setup. It's almost like everything now is. It's like do we do? Do we do our episodes, how long do we do episodes for? Well, how do we do it? Like, what do we talk about? There has to be an upside to lower and lower energy. This is my thought. When you and I are traveling, my energy is higher than yours, but just in a different way, because I'm the one who's doing all the planning. I'm doing all the logistics, I'm telling you where to be. When you and I go to the airport, you kind of follow me. It's a different energy. Maybe that's not a holistic energy, maybe that's like a logistic energy or whatever, but there's got to be something to that. I just don't know what it is yet.
Speaker 2Well, this is a good thing to share with all of our listeners. Where are you higher energy than other people? There's your leadership right there, because I feel like I'm really good at letting other people lead when it's their thing. I'm not going to do the plants here. She's going to pilot co-pilot. I'll support you. I'll make sure we don't hit any mountains, but you're driving this plane because you're. You've been doing this longer than me. You did logistics for how many years. Why would I suddenly get good at that? I'm not good at that, and if I was eventually better than you at that, I would say that and then I would lead.
Speaker 1But isn't that the isn't? Don't you need? Don't you need an abundance of energy to make up for the person's lack of energy? I think that's what it is and that's why in certain, in certain arenas, it's almost like whatever extra I have makes up for the lack that the other person does someone has to carry the team. Yeah, someone has to carry the energy.
Speaker 2And then it's the snow dog analogy of you don't need 12 amazing dogs, you need one or two at the front that are cheering for everybody, and everyone's trying to keep up. The other snow dogs are trying to keep up, and that shifts based on now imagine this metaphor but it shifts based on what's going on, like when the website was down, christina and then one of our community members I don't that was, I wasn't leading that charge, and so we, we all kind of have to be a little more intentional with where, where we, when we pick the ball up and carry it across the finish line for lack of better phrasing in our lives I lead the gym. When we're low energy, it takes me less energy because I've been doing it for nine years more than that she has. When she's low energy and she's a three, we always say zero to ten.
Speaker 2Where are you at? She says a three going down. It's okay, I'm leading, let's go, I'll do it, and when she's up and I'm really down, I just say lead. Truth is, though, I don't like doing that, because she doesn't optimize the workouts as well as I do. Of course, she does certain things. It's like that's actually chest. You know she's not there yet, and so there's this weird rolling thing where the amount of energy it took us to do two episodes in the beginning versus now for sure it's, and so it's.
Snow dog and smart phone analogy
Speaker 2It does I get why it's so complicated? Because you have to know what your things are, where you want to be the leader, where you're naturally inclined to be the leader, where do you have high energy, where do you shine and where don't you? This one of my clients she's like I don't shine here, it's a. That's okay. You're not supposed to shine everywhere half the time I lead. I don't want to, I just know I have to, because who else is going to right? And then you do that for enough years. Now you're high energy and everything. And again, that's a self-belief thing too. But at the end of the day, figure out where you're at in all this, and I think that at the very least, everyone thinking about and talking about energy levels. It's kind of like the, the battery on your phone. Maybe I have a, a bigger battery or something like that, but but different apps use different amounts of battery, for it's a good analogy, I think. And and you don't want to Try to lead when you're at 2% battery.
Speaker 1Well, speaking of battery, my battery is nearing the end of its cycle and I'm going to go Eat dinner now. Have a good one you as well, brother. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2What are you having?
Speaker 1I'm having. I've been having a lot of Turkey kielbasa lately, nice. It's so good, throw it in the air fryer, crisp it up. A little white rice, nice. A little A1 sauce 10 pound in 10 week. Challenge, man, right. I told Taryn, I said I'm down. I'm averaging 1.1 pounds a week, nice. So I'm right on, I'm right on schedule. And that includes the partying.
Speaker 2So so keep it up. Yeah, just keep it going, I guess.
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