#1732 - You NEVER Know Who You’re Impacting

Have you ever thought about how your actions might quietly affect others? In today’s episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros discuss this profound idea. They share personal stories and honest thoughts about how we can influence others without knowing it. They also talk about why sticking to what we love doing is essential. Listen in to learn how even the tiniest actions can make a big difference and why it’s important to say thank you and own up to how we affect others.

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Show notes:
(1:46) A prediction and a wedding
(5:17) Impacting lives and expressing gratitude
(6:48) A courageous moment
(12:56) The power of taking responsibility
(16:28) Next Level Dreamliner: the planner, agenda, journal, and habit tracker to rule them all. Get a copy: https://a.co/d/f1FWAQA
(17:53) Reflecting on school memories and impact
(22:20) Purpose of service and self-improvement
(28:37) Growing business through audience attention
(34:57) Outro

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:00

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. We hope you enjoyed yesterday's episode, episode number 1,731,. Where is your Happiness? Setpoint Today for episode number 1,732, I'm going to change that on the fly. You never know who you're impacting. So two quick stories on this. Last week I told you this, I told you this and you made a prediction and your prediction was true and correct. Mine was not.

Speaker 1 0:35

Somebody I used to work with DM'd me. They actually FaceTimed me. I have not talked to this person since 2018. Six years I haven't talked to this person.

A prediction and a wedding

Speaker 1 0:45

For six years they FaceTimed me randomly on a Saturday and I didn't answer it because I'm not going to answer it and I also didn't see it. My phone's always on silent. I'm always on do not disturb. So I didn't see it. And then I saw a FaceTime from this person and I was like interesting person, likes to partake Heavily In alcohol On the weekend. I assumed, you know they probably got Hammered and were reminiscing On the past and wanted to chat For some reason. So they FaceTimed me and I was like, ah, whatever, I'm probably Probably a Either a butt dial or a drunk regret. That isn't gonna add up to anything. Then I got a DM a few minutes later that said hey, call me, love you, heart you. And I told Taryn because she's like I'm very invested in what this person is gonna say to you and I said, honestly, my guess is this person got drunk, they're feeling it and they're like I wonder what Kev's up to. I'm going to give Kev a call.

Speaker 2 1:51

I replied to them, as we all are at some point in the day.

Speaker 1 1:53

Yeah, of course I mean, what's Kev up to right? It could be anything. I'm guaranteed it's less cool than you think it is. But I messaged them back and said, hey, long time no talk. How you doing, my friend, and nothing, radio silence At the wedding. This was awesome. It was a really humbling moment. It was a very, a great moment of connection with one of my cousin-in-laws.

Speaker 1 2:21

We were at the wedding. It was hot in the venue, so I went outside to hang with some people and one of Taryn's cousins was like hey, I saw your post on Facebook about like the million listens and the million dollars. I didn't realize you guys were like successful, like that successful at what you did. And I said, yeah, nobody, nobody knows.

Speaker 1 2:41

Really, it's like it's very hard to understand because you see a lot of episodes and you kind of have to know, you kind of have to be in the know, like in the podcast industry you might know, and they're like that's super inspirational, like good for you, man, that's awesome, like does that happen often? And I said, no, like the way we're doing it's pretty rare and it's taken us a long time. And we've been doing this a long time seven years and they just gave me so much love. It was such a kind, thoughtful, heartfelt message and it literally made my night. I was like you're awesome, this is awesome, and I'm really tight with that side of the family, so it was wonderful. That's why I wanted to do this episode, getting some respect on it. There was some respect on it. Put some respect on my name. It's new for Kev. I love it.

Speaker 1 3:24

It was wonderful. It was very heartfelt, it was very from the heart, it was very. I don't know very genuine, almost apologetic of like I'm sorry if you've ever thought I doubted you before, which I never did. I don't assume people go through their life wondering whether or not I'm going to be successful. I don't really care you, I don't really care, you know, like people have better things to do.

Speaker 2 3:42

That's the first thing I wonder, first thing in the morning.

Speaker 1 3:46

Well, yeah, it makes sense, but you know other people have more important things to worry about. You're having more of an impact than you probably think. Here's the thing, though Most people don't have the courage to admit the impact you're having on them. Unless there's alcohol involved, unless there's tragedy involved, unless there's an insane level of vulnerability, perspective loss I guess tragedy and loss might be one and the same, but you're having so much of an impact you have no idea. One of my clients today said yeah, somebody reached out to me. I have no idea who this person is, I have no idea how they found my podcast and they gave me all this love. And I said it feels good, right, doesn't that feel good? And they said, yeah. And I said well, for every person that reaches out, there's a bunch of people that never will. You don't have any. You're helping, or how many people you're inspiring, or whatever it may be.

Impacting lives and expressing gratitude

Speaker 1 4:48

This is the hard part. It's your responsibility to do it, regardless of whether or not those people ever come out of the woodwork, because you're not doing it for that in the first place, necessarily, yes, I want to be the person I needed. That's the reason I do this, but now, at this point. I'm also doing this because I love it and it helps me grow and it helps me evolve and I want to be the best I can be and all that stuff. So it's not as much about the love as I thought it would be in the beginning. But you never know. You don't think there's somebody on the other side of your book. You don't think there's somebody on the other side of your Pinterest post. You don't think there's somebody on the other side of whatever it is, even if it's one person, you never know. So I want to do an episode on that I didn't plan on this and I'm.

Speaker 2 5:29

It's a courageous moment, because I usually get very emotional when I share things like this. But I I actually messaged recently. I sent an email to my favorite teacher and so I I'll read it. I I had never intended on reading this when I sent it, by the way. I I just and hopefully I can get through it without and again, I don't. I don't know how much I believe in the keep it together thing. If I cry, I cry, it's all good.

Speaker 1 5:55

Just I just want to throw it out there because we we like to keep it, keep it honest and fresh here. If alan cries, I might smile. Now that is my trauma response. It has nothing to do with alan, it's just the way I'm wired. I'm I'm working on it, but I just want to throw it out there.

A courageous moment

Speaker 2 6:12

If he starts weeping or bawling, I might smile or laugh that's uh, similar to when kev tells some really tough stories from his past where he was not courageous Low self-worth stories. Sometimes I laugh because two I think number one it's actually comedy movie worthy Fair At times. And number two you made it out, I did make it out. If you didn't make it out I probably would not be be laughing. So my favorite story of all time is the subject I said I'll keep the teacher. I don't see why I would keep the teacher and all.

Speaker 2 6:53

Yeah, mrs prior, I was thinking about you today as I wrote a blog on my linkedin. There was a time in ap calculus class where I got made fun of for asking dumb questions. I put dumb in quotes and you stuck up for me during a really hard time in my life. Please see attached. This is my favorite story in the entire world. I don't know who wrote it, but it touches my heart at the deepest levels and I always think of you when I read it. You're still the best teacher I've ever had. Thank you for believing me. Thank you for believing in me during my darkest times and for bringing me to WPI, because we used to go to math meets at WPI, which is my alma mater and yeah, so your classes and mathematics saved me at a dark time when I felt like there was no light. Thank you, and I intend to come visit you soon, if you'll have me. With love and gratitude, alan. She said Alan, so nice to hear from you and thank you for the kind words, but, just like your story, it is me who should thank you. I enjoyed being a small part of your life.

Speaker 2 7:55

Mrs Pryor, you're so sweet and I didn't know this until my 30s, at least not consciously, obviously. I knew it unconsciously, but that year I don't know if it was 2004, it was 2004, I think it was 2004 when my stepdad left um and all that stuff happened. So her me bullied, her being there for me during my because no one knows right. So, yeah, you get bullied when it's this weird thing, because when you're going through a tough time at home, you put on a front because you think that you'll get bullied more If you don't, and then that Causes more bullying and, uh, particularly for men, where it's Not like safe to be emotional.

Speaker 2 9:22

And so I fucking hated high school man. I seriously did not like high school at all. Man, honestly Understandable, understandable, understandable. And again, I think there was some, of course, good times too, but for the most part I remember people. This will be a little tangent, I'll go brief with it, but to the main point it's Mrs Pryor didn't understand to the extent that that mattered. Yeah, didn't understand to the extent that that mattered, yeah.

Speaker 1 10:07

And that's not why she did it Either what was I gonna say before that? You had a tangent. You said what did I say before the tangent high school.

Speaker 2 10:35

I fucking hated high school was the uh, I believe that was the quote, I think, just in general, my teenage years were really really hard. So my stepdad left when I was 14. And then just the whole thing that I don't even really want to talk about anymore To be honest, I'm just annoyed with it, I'm just sick of it.

Speaker 2 11:06

But yeah, you don't know the impact you're having on people and you don't know what people are going through. And I mean, I very easily could have never sent that email because that's a vulnerable email. And what if she doesn't respond? What if she thinks it's stupid? What if she doesn't remember me, whatever right? But that's all fear. And so at the end of the day, I don't know, I forget what my tangent was, but the fear. I forget what my tangent was, but the fear.

Speaker 2 11:45

I think that courage is just. You have to. It takes courage to admit where you are imperfect. I think it takes courage to admit who helped you. I think it takes courage to admit that you couldn't have gotten here on your own. I think it takes courage to admit that a lot of it actually was you. I think it takes courage to admit Whatever. The truth is Dude. I think whatever is accurate Is the hardest to admit To people and to share and to. Yeah, I mean, if I had a nickel for every time I helped someone Create a bigger, better, brighter future and then got lashed out for it. It's wild, it is. It's really, it's really unfortunate.

Speaker 1 12:26

But I had a breakthrough today about that I was talking to.

Speaker 1 12:31

I was talking to a client who very self-aware and very honest and very ownership and very vulnerable, very real, and he was talking about how he's like I don't really enjoy podcasting right now, I don't want to do it, I'm not motivated to do it, I'm not inspired to do it.

The power of taking responsibility

Speaker 1 12:43

And he said, talking about how he's like I don't really enjoy podcasting right now, I don't want to do it, I'm not motivated to do it, I'm not inspired to do it. And he said I think one of the things that happens is I'm not motivated to do it, so I don't do it, and then I feel guilty that I didn't do it and then I feel bad about it. Then I said well, what I think often happens is you either villainize the thing or you villainize yourself and the thing or you villainize yourself, and it would be very easy for you to say, well, the podcast isn't growing and I'm not doing this and this isn't happening and this isn't happening, when the reality is you're not even doing it, you're not doing it and that's why nothing is happening. You can either villainize, you can either own it or pass the ownership onto something else.

Speaker 2 13:17

Yeah, and when you pass it onto, that's powerful.

Speaker 1 13:19

It was a very interesting breakthrough for me.

Speaker 1 13:21

I think I've understood that conceptually theoretically but now it makes a ton of sense. So all it is and we've been saying this for a long time is if you, let's say, you have a job that you really like, love it, awesome, benefits are great, leadership is great, hours are great, everything's great. Hours are great, everything's great Meets all the needs, then you lose the job. One of two things you could say you know what? I really messed that up. I should have taken that more seriously. I should have appreciated that more.

Speaker 1 13:54

Yeah, I was late all the time. I wasn't hitting quote whatever. Whatever, it is, okay, that's ownership. One or two is like yeah, they never saw my value. You know that place kind of sucked anyway. Like, I'll go somewhere else, I'll make more money. Yeah, the schedule wasn't even that great, like they always. You know, sometimes I'd have to say like 15 minutes later than I wanted to, that one of those is more accurate than the other. I think it's just up to you to figure out what it is, but I think that's how a lot of us I think that's what happens with you is again how we. Okay, imagine you and I don't work together anymore. Okay, one of two things has to happen. One, I say whew, boy, did I mess that one up, or F that guy, f him, f him. He was late and you know, I don't really think he even understood me. Anyway, you know.

Speaker 2 14:49

You know what I mean. He just didn't put in the effort. Good luck finding someone like me. He's gonna probably fail anyway.

Speaker 1 14:55

That whole thing was probably gonna fail. But it's really hard to do the first one and say, yeah, no, that's not me, I messed that up. You know, we lost the game because I struck out, not because the lights got in my eyes. No, no, we, I didn't swing the bat. That's why we lost the game. Or? Or? Well, baby, you should have been the one to check to make sure we nope. No, it's my suit. I should check to make sure I have my suit. That's not your job. That's my bad. I didn't forget my suit. But just as an example, yeah, it's when you pass the, when you pass the buck to someone else. Again, not necessarily related to what we're talking about, but I'm also trying to like we're. We're trying new stuff, like new angles and new conversation points, and I'm trying to say like, okay, well, this episode's about you never know who you're impacting. It doesn't mean we have to talk about you never know who you're impacting for the entire episode. What if we have a tangent that's valuable?

Speaker 2 15:51

trying to figure it out. Man, we're gonna have a conversation. We always go back to the through line eventually conversations yeah the same. The thing that came up there is just responsibility and how much responsibility you're willing to take.

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Speaker 1 16:10

Can I add a quick? Of course, I think it is pressing for what we're talking about, aligned to what we're talking about, because you never know how Can I help you. No, I'm just happy. It does feel like way more of a conversation, because I'm looking at you and I'm looking at the side of your face, which I'd never do if we were having a conversation I'd be looking right at you.

Speaker 2 16:33

So that's a little weird, but it makes more sense for you.

Speaker 1 16:36

If you're watching, you never know how small, how big of an impact something small is having. The one time I tripped somebody at recess, I don't know what happened. I don't know what that meant to them I don't know what that did to them.

Speaker 1 16:48

I don't know how much they internalize that, just like all the people who made fun of me that's light made fun of me for not having a dad like you. Don't know what that did to me. I don't know what that did to me. I don't know what that did to me. I know it probably wasn't great, but it could be that one small thing. I was thinking of this the other day speaking of teachers. Remember Miss Silbor?

Speaker 2 17:07

We had a teacher named Miss. Silbor, I didn't have Miss Silbor, but I know of her, yeah, I just never had her. I don't think I was one of the few that didn't. To be honest, I don't even know what she taught.

Speaker 1 17:17

Probably English, because she read us Harry Potter. Oh nice, yeah, she was reading us Harry Potter, which is cool. It's a great class. Yep, I'm going to go to school today and be read books.

Speaker 2 17:30

I'm in.

Reflecting on school memories and impact

Speaker 1 17:30

I accept she said something to me that you know how. You have moments where it's like, oh my goodness. I remember that now, but I've never, ever remembered that before. I was probably sad that I was smaller than everybody else still am, and she said, kev, dynamite comes in small packages. And I was like holy christmas I'm healed. Perfect, I'm healed now but I thought of it. I thought of it the other day. How, uh, how profound. I'm sure that that changed my perspective at the time I gotta say something to you.

Speaker 2 18:08

Uh, no, but dude, I was. When I was a freshman, you and I were the same height, if not, I was shorter. Well, what happened I?

Speaker 1 18:17

didn't I hit puberty? Kind of Did I? I don't know if I did.

Speaker 2 18:21

You always say that you didn't, but I remember dude being short as a man. Seriously, I remember how insignificant I felt. It's not easy, it's not easy. Yeah, there's a, there's a big. It's unconscious. I get it right, we're animals in the animal kingdom.

Speaker 1 18:36

I don't think it's unconscious. No, I think it's very conscious Really.

Speaker 2 18:39

Yeah.

Speaker 1 18:39

You don't make fun of people for unconscious things. You make fun of people for conscious things. You get made fun of for being short. I think most people were afraid of me for some reason. So no, I never really got bullied for that. But again, this is one of those things where, like where airing it out on the interwebs is a dangerous game, Because if anybody wants to get me, they know where to go. But it's like, whatever it is what it is.

Speaker 2 19:09

Do you think one of your defense mechanisms for Like, one of the reasons you didn't maybe showcase a ton of confidence, is because if you do more, people will bully you? Yeah, maybe I just I also wasn't that confident because someone who appears confident becomes a more easy target, whereas someone who is docile or timid. It's almost like you don't want to pick on them anyway, or whatever. I don't think that's what it was.

Speaker 1 19:37

There were a couple kids in our high school Calvin and Caleb I'll use two first names and Ross Three of them and they were talking one day to me and they're like, dude, we would never mess with you, Like of all the people in the school. It's like I just want you to know, I'm terrified of all three of you. So I don't know. This is a weird thing we're talking about right now, because I am terrified of all three of you people and I don't know why you're thinking about me in any way, shape or form, because I don't want to fight and I don't like it and I'm afraid to lose. So I'm not going to. I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 20:14

I was close friends with Caleb way back in middle school. He came up rough man. Caleb came up rough for sure.

Speaker 1 20:20

Good dude, though, yeah for sure Good dude Good dude.

Speaker 2 20:24

I was always afraid of them though I was always afraid of them. Well, you did. You were a fighter. You were into weightlifting. You wanted to be a fighter when you grew up.

Speaker 1 20:33

I wasn't cool, though. My biggest fear was getting to the lunch table and it being like, oh my goodness, none of my friends are in this block of lunch. I am Jeffed. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 20:45

This goes to show, though Everyone's. I mean, I'm telling you, if we polled our high school, everyone would say you were popular. I'm convinced of it.

Speaker 1 20:53

I'm convinced nobody would remember who I was.

Speaker 2 20:55

There's no way. There's no way, Kev. That's false. You were an all-star baseball player. Nobody cared about man, that's not true. In our school nobody cares about the nerds.

Speaker 1 21:07

Sorry, I only got invited to a couple of the party. You were invited more parties than I was. That's because I had the party house man I never got invited that's because you aided me. At times, at times.

Speaker 2 21:21

I did. Yes, we've digressed, haven't we? The thing that I wanted to share as well for everybody the listeners that do reach out, it can make your whole day. It's awesome. It's awesome and I have a folder I've talked about. It's called my Deepest why, and I started this out so many years ago and I just started accumulating people reaching out saying thank you. It's the only through line to this wild folder now, at this point that has over a thousand images and or videos in it is it has to have someone thanking NLU me for the contribution we made to their life in some way. It's some form of a testimonial or thank you.

Purpose of service and self-improvement

Speaker 2 22:09

This impacted me, this episode, any of those. If anyone ever reached out and said this episode was amazing because of XYZ, I would like screenshot that and save it in a private folder, and so I have thousands at this point, even though I can always tell when we're doing really well, because I'm like not wasting time, because this is the best use of my time, but I'm investing a lot of time into just screenshotting stuff. That's when I can tell we're really having a big impact. But every now and then I'll need to go into that folder, and I used to do this on huddles. I did this a couple times.

Speaker 2 22:40

I used to do as if we did it for like years, but I wanted to start opening team huddles with that, just picking three listeners who have reached out and reading them anonymously. I would. I would blur the name out, uh, and then just talk about cause I think it. Dude, it's so important to realize that that's what this was about in the beginning. It's so easy, seriously, when you become a real business and again, I'm not complaining because I love that, that's what we want. But, dude, every now and then it it does become like wait a minute, why are we doing this again? Like you have to.

Speaker 2 23:18

It becomes so much responsibility, it's so much responsibility. And again, we're still at the beginning. So this is nothing compared to what it will be. But every now and then I just have to go back to that folder and just look what is the point? This is not. If I wanted to go have a career that makes a lot of money, I would not land on this as my first choice. I mean, this is just not naturally profitable. A lot of people don't invest in their self-improvement, they don't invest in personal growth, they don't invest in personal development or or mental health, these kinds of things. I mean, the amount people invest in their cars and their homes is what, a thousand x what they invest in their own personal development. So, but I also that's not why we're doing it I was on a podcast earlier today, kev, and it was a pre-call, so essentially it was an interview prior to the interview and she was asking me like why are you doing this If you have your own podcast, like?

Speaker 2 24:17

And she was genuinely asking I don't feel like it was an attack, although it might've been both. I said I know it's a little weird, but I'm not here. She's like well, what are you trying to sell and I was like I'm not. I'm not actually. I know, I know what you think and that's okay, I get it. It's a business podcast, so thank you for that.

Speaker 2 24:37

I'm actually here to serve. I said I know a lot of people say that they're service. First, I said I'm here to serve and I told her this. I literally said this. I said COVID spread really fast and it was crazy how quickly it spread. It was two people, then it was four people, then it was eight people, then it was 16 people, then it was just exponential. And I said I want that same thing to happen with self-improvement and holistic self-improvement in particular. And so I'm here number one to serve and number two, I want to practice my craft. I want to get better at this. And when you ask me questions I've never been asked before, I get an opportunity to articulate things that I've never articulated before, and then I get better, which helps me add more value to more people.

Speaker 2 25:17

And when we say we want to change the world, we're not necessarily just saying dent the universe, change the world, pie in the sky. We're going to be the most successful people in history. That's not what I'm saying. What we're saying is it's a duality, it's number one. We're going to change the world because if you impact a thousand people, and those people impact a thousand people and those people impact a thousand people, that is a billion people and there's 8 billion people on the planet. And so we are changing the world already in our own unique way.

Speaker 2 25:50

I mean even just book club. I talk about this all the time. Our own unique way. I mean even just book club. I talk about this all the time. There's 13 of us here and right now we're reading books together and we're talking about them and we're leading leaders and all of you have families and all of you have not all of you, but most of you have kids, and you have colleagues and friends and in-laws and itipples, it, it does.

Speaker 2 26:13

And I've had so many people say what book are you reading? Well, I have a book club on saturday and and someone joins and it's just it, it does, it spreads. And so I used to say I want self-improvement to spread like covid. Now I don't say that anymore, thanks to kev, because I don't want to be insensitive, but I do. I do want that concept to ripple outward the, the self-improvement, the impact, the believing in people and believing in their potential and believing in their bigger, better, brighter future. As fortune cookie as it might sound, it's not. It's practical, it's real. It's real. That's why tears happen when I email my teacher. That was real and I remember she told too. I asked her one time because I was an ignorant kid, so don't villainize me for this, but I remember asking her.

Speaker 2 26:58

We had philosophical discussions all the time. That was my class dude. It wasn't just math. I talked about unconditional love versus conditional love. I didn't think unconditional love existed, go figure, why, right I? Just I was like, well, you can't wake up every day and and have your husband do something mean to you and have it not affect your love for him. And we had these philosophical debates.

Speaker 2 27:20

I remember one time I asked her like why are you a math teacher? They don't make enough money. And again, I'm just a kid, right. So I just to me it was Christine. You're amazing, as if I called her Christine. Mrs Pryor, you're amazing, as if I called her christine. Mrs prior, you're amazing, why are you here? You can go do more, you can be more, go be better, go do more. And again, I was ignorant and a kid and I.

Speaker 2 27:40

Now I realize she said alan, I believe in public service. Me and my husband believe in public service, and her husband was a police officer for the town and, and so they believe in that and and I I to this day, I'll never forget that, because service is at the core of who I am as well, and always, even when I didn't know it, that was always the goal. And so, yeah, I'm here to serve, yeah, I'm here to practice my craft and yeah, if someone happens to come listen to our show and then coach with me, great, but that's not, I would be here regardless. I would be here regardless of that and, trust me, I know that sounds crazy to a business owner, but I was doing it long before we had anything to monetize yep fired up it's an important realization.

Speaker 2 28:26

It is dude, it's it's. A lot of people say serve first, but that that's there. It's more words than it is their actual goal.

Growing business through audience attention

Speaker 1 28:35

I would agree. We went to a conference one time and we left shortly thereafter because it was like ah, I can see what this is all about. I'm all for making money, I love money, but that's not what it's all about.

Speaker 2 28:48

Exactly the number one slide was the purpose of business is to make money, the only purpose of business. I think they even had the audacity to say that the only purpose in business, or the number one purpose of business, is to make money. No, it's not. The purpose of business is to help people and then make money as a byproduct to continue helping more people.

Speaker 1 29:07

I dig it.

Speaker 2 29:09

Anything else, brother.

Speaker 1 29:10

Life's a garden, dig it.

Speaker 2 29:14

How'd you like? Did I say the grass is greener when you water it? Did I say that in this one? No, Definitely not.

Speaker 1 29:18

No, you said that earlier On a, on a behind the scenes. Oh, that's right.

Speaker 2 29:24

That's right. Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 29:27

A good saying. Yeah, I. One of my favorite is Peter Piper picked a pickled pepper or something like that. That's as far as I can get. Do you know anything more? Peter Piper picked a pickled pepper. That's what it is. No, could a pickled pepper pick? Peter Don't know. Tune in to tomorrow's episode to find out.

Speaker 1 29:47

All right, if you are looking for a group of like-minded individuals who are also in the service of others, whatever that means, I think that's what heart-driven is. I think when people are heart-driven, it means that they're focused on helping other people first. Heart-driven first. We have a private Facebook group called Next Level Nation. We'll have the link in the show notes.

Speaker 1 30:08

What would you like to talk about? Also, please subscribe if you would. We don't ask like we're guilty of not asking for reviews and subscriptions and all that stuff. And on podcast growth, you, I'm always telling people like, make sure you ask for subscriptions because it's going to help you, and make sure you ask for reviews. I don't do it, so I I can't say I lead by example. But yeah, if we've added any value to you, if you would subscribe, it would help. And again, at the end of the day, we're trying to help as many people as possible, so any anything you can do to help us, we are appreciative of some of the people that have transformed kevin and i's life and and transformed nlu team members, community members that have been with us for years.

Speaker 2 30:52

They came from just stumbling upon the podcast on itunes. Yep, and if you give us a review and contribute in that way, it's more likely that more people will find us, which then we can help more people. So, yeah, if we've added value and changed your life in a positive way, please reach out number one and please rate and review the show. And if you do not like the show at all, uh, please do not yeah, please don't.

Speaker 1 31:22

Here's the other thing. This is. This is interesting too. The more impact we have, the better the podcast is ultimately going to get, because that reason we'll yeah, because we'll invest in it.

Speaker 1 31:35

Yeah, we're never going to have like a Patreon link or like a buy me a coffee link where it's like, hey, if you like this episode, you can donate $5. No, we're going to try to grow our business and get better at growing our business and adding more value. That's never going to be a thing. But the more opportunity we have to impact, the opportunity we have to impact, the more profitability ultimately occurs and then we can reinvest into the podcast. That'll never happen. It's never going to be like, hey, here's our Patreon. I won't say never, but I can't imagine it'll ever happen.

Speaker 1 32:03

I'll never ask you to buy us a coffee, because we have a business and we're trying to grow the business and we're working on the business. If I can't buy a coffee, that's my fault. That's not your fault if you're listening, so yeah all right, you're going to say something.

Speaker 2 32:16

Did I interrupt you? I know you didn't. I do want you to ask if you'd be willing to share what didn't you understand again, it's a little bit of a tangent, but what didn't you understand in the beginning, when you used to listen to podcasts?

Speaker 2 32:25

yeah what didn't you understand about this whole process? Because if you enjoy the show, oh, and you contribute to the show by giving us a review, that's positive. More people listen to the show and the show will get better because it will grow. I don't know. Is that not an obvious yeah?

Speaker 1 32:43

I guess any of that you know what I I realized recently. Uh, there was a streamer there was. They were going over like how much streamers make, like on YouTube, youtube streamers and one of them said 65% of how much I make is from my subscribers like donations, 65% of and I was like that's such an interesting thing. Like the audience knows that the person has more money than them, but they still donate their money to that person to help them make more money. Like what an interesting psychological rabbit hole. That was yeah, for us it's more subscriptions help us get on the top charts.

Speaker 1 33:23

Reviews are just like Amazon, where before you buy something, you're going to look at the reviews. If we're on the top charts, we're going to attract more people. If we're going to attract more people, naturally the business will grow because we have the offerings that we have and then ultimately, that money will get put back into the business for new mics and new cameras and new backdrops and when we have different homes, the studios will be different and bigger and bigger team and more resources on youtube and better guests on podcast growth, you and whatever all that stuff. So, yeah, ultimately it's your attention that helps us grow more than it ever will be like, hey, donate to you know, donate to this or buy me a coffee, whatever it is. Yeah, I didn't understand any of that in the beginning. No, nice.

Speaker 2 34:05

Yeah, thank you, for you're very well, well articulated. I appreciate it it's a good.

Speaker 1 34:09

It's a good question. All right, as always, we love you, we appreciate you. We are grateful for each and every one of you genuinely, and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow. Keep having an impact.

Speaker 2 34:22

Next elimination.