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#1748 - Do You Ever Feel Like You’re Doing Too Much AND Not Enough?

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Ever felt like you’re running on a treadmill, juggling countless tasks, yet still feel unfulfilled? You’re not alone. In this episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros dive into the complexities of balancing various life aspects and explore how reallocating efforts might create better harmony. Through personal anecdotes, such as the stress of a packed to-do list and the highs and lows experienced in bodybuilding events, we illuminate the constant struggle of doing too much but not enough. Discover how aligning your pursuits with passion, purpose, and profit can significantly impact your sense of fulfillment.

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(2:47) For now
(5:17) Relationship with achievement
(7:36) Results vs. Experience
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Speaker 1

Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1,748, do you ever feel like you're doing too much and not enough? So this Wednesday, this past Wednesday, we had our team call and we always start with most important win, most important improvement what's the team going through, what's happening, lessons, all that stuff. We all share what we're going through and Amy shared that she feels like she's doing too much and not enough at the same time. And right when she said that, I wrote that down and I said I feel like that would make a really good episode, because I'm sure a lot of us feel that way in different arenas of life. I was showing Alan my to-do list. You won't be able to see it on camera because the ink oh, I guess you can see it perfectly now. For some reason it was the angle.

Speaker 2

And it was the angle yeah, the reflection of the light before washed it out. Well, excuse me, as a past bodybuilder who used to do posing on stage, you should know the lighting washout-ness.

Speaker 1

I've never been this skinny.

Speaker 2

That's fair. He's referring to this skinny as the notebook.

Speaker 1

My notebook. Yeah, yeah, no, I've been skinnier than I am today. I can tell you that for certain. Hey, same, that is a fact. But the reason I bring that up is because I I feel similar. I feel like I'm doing too much in some things and not enough in other things. And after amy said that, I said I wonder if it's as simple as you feel like you're doing 10 out of 10, you feel like you're doing 14 out of 10 in one arena and you feel like you're doing zero out of 10 in another arena, and maybe all it is is taking some of the time from one arena and bringing it into the other, or one bucket into the other, or this is my thought currently. Maybe it's just supposed to be that way right now. Maybe you what's a good example of this?

Speaker 2

or maybe you're doing like a seven out of ten in a bunch of areas but you don't feel like you're doing any one really well.

For now

Speaker 1

That's how I feel right now that's also possible. Yeah, I can resonate with that. I think of it. Think of a catering job. The first, I don't know. Let's say it's an eight-hour day. I'm sure the first four hours is probably making the food and you're not serving anything to anyone in the first four hours. Then the food goes out for like an hour probably, and then the last three hours is cleanup. In the first four hours you probably wouldn't if you were thinking of, like how many people did we serve? You're not gonna serve anybody in the second piece of this, like in the time where people are eating. That's all that's happening. So maybe you're thinking about how challenging cleanup is going to be. Maybe not the best analogy, but one that kind of speaks to what we're talking about. You ever been?

Speaker 2

a caterer.

Speaker 1

I've never been a caterer, but we went to a wedding recently and there was a buffet. That's where I I was thinking of. It's like, most of the time you don't see them and they're setting up. Then you just go through the line once or twice, or three times, depending on how hungry you are, and then the food it's just gone, disappears.

Speaker 2

That happened at next level live.

Speaker 1

That did happen at next level live. I didn't eat, I did. I did take the cannolis home. I pocketed them. It was really.

Speaker 2

I don't eat on days. I speak, speak, I try not to, because if I eat too much then I need to take a nap, naps yeah, nappies.

Speaker 1

What's your, what's your thought on all this that we're talking about?

Speaker 2

I feel that way all the time. I feel all right, cool like I'm tuning in tomorrow for episode number one I feel like I'm constantly up against that where I feel like I'm doing too much and not enough.

Speaker 1

Up against that where I feel like I'm doing too much and not enough. You have an interesting relationship, though, with it?

Speaker 2

yeah, I was trying to think about this recently what? What is your relationship with achievement? I think that could be somewhere that's relevant to this, because if you have a very positive relationship with achievement and if you're achieving in alignment with your passion, your purpose and your profit, because I think a lot of us want to believe that waking up on a beach and enjoying ourselves is the life, and while I think it is so, for example, amelia and I went to South Carolina probably a month or two ago, and there was this beach that reminded me of Jurassic Park. It was gorgeous and it was a private beach. It was unbelievable. I wish I could show some videos. It was nothing short of magnificent, and we were there for a couple hours. I got super burnt, but we went swimming and it was fun and I remember I really enjoyed it. I did. I really, really, really, really enjoyed it. But I remember I really enjoyed it. I did. I really, really, really really enjoyed it. But I remember thinking to myself afterwards I wouldn't want to do that every day for a month. It would just it would get old, it wouldn't be as meaningful, and so I think all of us need to figure out what is too much, what is not enough for each of us? And it depends on your goals, it depends on your relationship with achievement.

Relationship with achievement

Speaker 2

And I was on a podcast earlier today. It was the first day of a 14 day challenge and I said no pressure, because things that start well and well, so let's rock and roll, let's be the Mario Kart booster that your listeners need. And I remember I started with self-belief but after I got off the interview, I was thinking about you and I podcasting, and I was overwhelmed because I woke up this morning and I saw my day, and it's from 10 am to 7 pm, back to back, the entire day. And I remember thinking to myself all right, this is going to be really challenging. It's also exactly what I wanted, I mean, years ago. This is exactly I wanted demand. I wanted podcasting, speaking, training, coaching.

Speaker 2

So this is a good thing. It's just, even though it's a good thing and it's fulfilling, it doesn't make it any. It's not, not hard, not not, so it's. It is hard. Yeah, double negative, so it is hard. And I think that what's your relationship with achievement, what's your relationship with hard? What's your relationship with too much or too little? And I would say this to end. All of that is the real question I've been asking myself a lot today is what's my relationship with achievement? I wonder if achievement and accomplishment fulfills other people as much as it does for me.

Speaker 1

I would say probably not, because it's most of achievement, and accomplishment is the process of chasing it.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

So it's almost. If the process doesn't fulfill you, the result probably isn't enough to.

Speaker 2

The experience driven versus results driven thing is very important. We haven't touched on it in a while for our listeners. Kevin and I are good examples. We got a great review recently that talked about how cool it is to get Kevin's perspective and mine, and on the yesterday's episode on Freestyle Friday, I said we had a healthy debate. He said, ah, it was just a conversation. I was like dude, I don't know man. That was a healthy debate and I said one thing in that episode that I think, taken out of context, is not my truth. And then we clarified and all that. But the different perspective that you and I have.

Results vs. Experience

Speaker 2

Hopefully all the listeners can figure out which end you're on. Most likely it flip-flops and most likely it's a percentage. It's probably 80, 20, whatever. But results versus experience, kev is much more experience driven. He. He does things that he enjoys and he wants to do things that he enjoys the process of and he wants to do things that he enjoys the process of. For me, I and we're all both. That's the key it's really important to understand. We're both okay. If Kevin and I go to a restaurant, he's prioritizing what the best experience would be, meaning he's going to eat what he wants first and he's going to try to make it hit his macros.

Speaker 1

I'm going for taste, okay he's going to eat what he wants first and he's going to try to make it hit his macros.

Speaker 2

I'm going for taste. Okay, he's going for taste. Okay, I'm going for macros first, taste second. It's just my natural state, and so if you're an achiever and you identify as an achiever, you realize that you're most likely more results oriented than you are experience oriented, and you're more on my end. If you don't identify as an achiever, most likely most of what you do and don't do is based on whether or not you're going to enjoy the experience. So, when you look at other people's lives and you envy or are jealous of some of the results that they've created, one of the things you have to understand is that you might not actually have envied any of the process, and so I think that's a really powerful way to start is what's your relationship with achievement and which end are you on, results or experience?

Speaker 1

Let me ask you a question. On a scale of 1 to 10, I can actually pull up your schedule. I have access to Alan's calendar. I can kind of see what he's doing or not doing. It's creepy yeah right, that's why I said it that way. That was the goal On a scale of 1 to ten last week I'm gonna throw on a meeting tomorrow.

Speaker 2

Uh thinking about, uh thinking I'm gonna put on. Put it on my google calendar it's gonna be one hour. Uh thinking about kevin's inadequacies. Well, I know that's, I know we don't need a calendar event for that I know that's always happening behind the scenes On a scale of 1 to 10. Now I ruined the joke. I should have done that.

Speaker 1

On a scale of 1 to 10, how challenging was last week for you. Challenging, not out of alignment, challenging, challenging based on you doing what you felt like you were supposed to be doing, without going back and looking the week before that was the 10, what you felt like you were supposed to be doing, without going back and looking oh eight.

Speaker 1

The week before that was the 10. Last week, for me, was probably an eight, and I was not in the office, I was at an event and I had a moment where I got to the end of the week and I was like that was the easiest week ever not in terms of output, because it was one of the hardest weeks. I'm batching whatsapp either in the morning or late at night. I'm trying to find gyms to go to and I found one. I got a three-day pass for free. It was like awesome, this is perfect, nice. And then I'm going to this event. Driving a half hour toronto traffic is a whole thing, but I had a moment where I was packing the day that I was leaving and I was like this was the easiest week I've had in a minute.

Speaker 2

This goes to a deeper layer of what is easy to you. So here's the thing. Right, in order to succeed, we all have to do challenging things, but what's easy to you is different than what's easy to someone else. Shout out to Jerry and I I I said when I talk about how hard writing is true or false, that doesn't resonate at all. She's like no, not at all. I can tell that writing comes easy to her and one of the reasons I can tell is I hate it, I suck, it's like bad.

Easy or hard?

Speaker 2

It's really hard for me to write well. I can think really well it's writing it, getting it down on paper. It's really hard for me. The amount of times I go over and over and over again these paragraphs to get them right. My gold standard is Atomic Habits by James Clear. I think his writing is, in my opinion, some of the best in the world. I'm going for that level and in order to do that, I have to re-read, re-edit, re-read, re-edit, re-read. It's awful, but I can tell Jerrianne just, it just flows much better. It's not hard for her.

Speaker 2

So, yes, it's hard, because writing every day is hard, regardless of whether you're good at it or not, but it's easy in comparison to my hard. And so for you, that week in Toronto, that would have been harder for me. Now, would it have been harder from the sense of I couldn't do it? No, not from harder from the sense of speaking and that kind of thing. It would have drained me more.

Speaker 2

And the reason why is because I get I would prefer to be behind a desk in a dark office, on my space station, on my different computers and spreadsheets and all that stuff, whereas what I did that week would have been probably harder for you. And so when they say, choose your hard, what they're really trying to say, I think, underneath that, at least I hope, is find out what you're naturally inclined and what you're good at and what fulfills you and what experience you actually enjoy and processes you enjoy, and then try to orient that toward a result that you want and then design your life around what comes naturally to you. Just because it comes naturally doesn't mean it's easy. I don't care how natural basketball is. Winning a championship's not easy, but it's going to be easy compared to kev doing it yeah.

Speaker 1

well, the other thought I was having is when I was traveling, I felt like I was doing too much. I don't even know how to explain it. I was doing too much in person, being with people, and not enough building the business, when in reality, that is a great way to build a business. So maybe that's a whole other thing, too is maybe you're doing something that's super short term and not enough of something that's super long term. Or maybe you're doing something that's super short-term and not enough of something that's super long-term, or maybe you're doing something that's super long-term and it doesn't feel like you're accomplishing anything in the short run. That was kind of how it felt for me, because it was okay, I get to the end of the night and I got to batch WhatsApp. I don't feel like I'm on top of things like I usually am, but nothing fell through the cracks and then, once I got into the flow, it felt right.

Privilege pressure and structured schedules

Speaker 1

I actually had this was interesting for me. I actually had nostalgia from the old days of traveling. Not bad nostalgia Because I wasn't in a crappy hotel. I was in a nice Airbnb. That was cool and the gym I went to was really nice Lifetime no, la Fitness. It was a really nice gym, went to was really nice lifetime. Uh no, la, fitness it's a really nice gym, so that was cool. So it was. It reminded me of the old days and I think that's one of the reasons it made it a little bit easier was I had this realization recently one of the the reasons I like saturday and and Sunday so much so I don't. Alan does a bunch of calls on Saturday. We're going to do our chief officers meetings every other Saturday, so I'll be doing that, but I don't do calls on Saturday. The reason is not because I don't want to work. The reason is because I like doing back office work on Saturday and I don't want to work. But it's mostly the fact that it's mostly the fact that I'm doing.

Speaker 2

I'm doing back office work and I love it. It's mostly the first one.

Speaker 1

It's mostly the first one. Sunday is a day where nothing is on my calendar. I mean, we do stuff around the house and we do that. But I think one of the reasons is because I don't wake up with a ton of situational moments and moment pressure every like you said, when you wake up. I get up at six today and again, this is good, it's privileged pressure. I get up at six and I worked for an hour.

Speaker 1

I did my little mobility, I took my pre-workout, I went to the gym at 7 30, cool back here, showered and then it's like okay, minute to minute yeah I'm on this podcast from 10 to 11, and then from 11 to 12, I have something, and then from 12 30 to 1 30 and 1, 30 to 2, and then 2 to 3 and then 3 to 4. Every minute is measured. On sunday, my minutes are not measured at all.

Speaker 2

Can we talk about need? I know I don't know what time? Okay, we're good. We're only at 16 minutes, holy crap.

Speaker 1

Time flies when you're having fun. It is 12.07. Can we talk a little bit about?

Speaker 2

Sorry to interrupt you Now. I know we have time. Can we talk a little bit about when I first had a coach early on in my entrepreneurial journey? I saw her calendar and I freaked. I was like journey. I saw her calendar and I freaked. It's like I don't want to live like that. I want to be able to go to the gym, I want to, and now my life looks like hers, but I it's very obvious to me now that to achieve the results we want, this is what it requires. It's just very clear it now. Could we do it differently? Are there other? Can we go with the flow more Maybe? Honestly, I don't think so. Not for the results we want. And, of course, if I thought, so I'd switch.

Speaker 2

I think what we're doing right now is optimal and in a year from now I'll realize it wasn't, but it's certainly not going to be one of those. Let's do less, less. Let's do less, less, less, less, less, and try to live more, more, more, more, more. I really, really, really find that to be. I'm reading a book right now called 10x is better than 2x and it's it's a powerful book, but I told kev right before this I said that's a dangerous book for anyone who doesn't like to work, for someone who loves to work. It's a really powerful book because you're just going to double down on the work that matters most.

Speaker 2

And I was going through this with a client yesterday. His name is Cole and he is trying to get to world-class levels and we went through the four Ds of time. And how much R&R is the right amount of R&R, I said depends on you, but I have these principles blah, blah, blah. So, kev, when people hear about our schedules, they must think that sounds awful, and the truth is there's some truth to it. Some of it is awful. Sometimes it sucks. It really, really sucks. But we also couldn't have gotten here without that level of effort and time invested. You're not going to. It's like you can't become wealthy without investing a lot. You still have to invest a lot, you have to sacrifice. That's something we talk about. You can't not do that. How would you explain it? Let's say, kevin, seven years ago, pre-podcast saw your schedule number one. What would he think? And then number two what would this kevin tell him about why that's not only necessary but actually a good thing?

Speaker 1

I think kevin would think that kevin must be miserable doing what he's doing on the day-to-day Most likely. How could you possibly enjoy that? How could you enjoy being back-to-back-to-back-to-back all day on calls? That's probably what Kevin would think. And then, transparently, kevin also would probably think that Kevin today is more successful. When you're doing like 40 calls a week, you must be like millions and millions and millions of dollars. You must be balling Probably. That's probably what I would have thought and that's not true. What was the second question? Why would you have thought that? I don't know. I mean, if you see me looking over at the camera, it's because I have the calendar up. I'm not looking away from Alan. When you look at it, it would make sense. It's like, yeah, this is what I would imagine, the calendar of a super successful person to look like.

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Speaker 2

So you must be super successful. But there's the whole investment account thing. That's like taking a thousand bucks a month putting it in an investment account and then expecting to be a millionaire. Well, but I didn't have that awareness.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, these are just investments, really like that's the interesting thing now is you know a lot of super successful people what their calendar looks like doesn't look like this yeah, but it did.

Speaker 2

They're on. The did in their 30s, it did in their late 20s.

Speaker 1

Yeah it's almost that's. That's the. I think that's. The challenging thing is you saw this coach's calendar when they were in the absolute grind. Imagine somebody else seeing that calendar when they are on the downturn of just running momentum.

Speaker 2

It's like how many calls?

Speaker 1

a day, do you have? Well, I try not to take more than two a day. Saturday and sunday are completely off monday's for me and again, I'm not making I'm not saying that's wrong, that's no, it's not wrong, it's just a different time right, but imagine if you saw that, and then that was the way you set up your life. It's like, well, my mentor only does maximum of two calls a day. Yeah, but that's now what were they doing?

Speaker 2

10 years ago it's so.

Speaker 1

It's so hard to take advice, because I asked Evan Carmichael this and he said when I give advice, I try to put myself in your skin. Yeah, if I was in your skin, because it depends on where you are, not where I am, kevin do you do three videos on YouTube a day, every day, for like 10 years or something crazy? Something he has almost 8,000.

Speaker 2

Almost 8,000 videos, I think it's six.

Speaker 1

I think it's either 6,800 or 7,800. Okay, one of the two.

Speaker 2

But he has multiple channels too. So it's yeah, yeah, but that's the thing. If you saw him now and again, he still grinds. So I'm not, but you see him playing video games and being on social media all the time. That it's very dangerous. It's very dangerous. It's a landmine for anyone who's new, Seriously A landmine, A minefield of landmines. So what would you tell Kev?

Speaker 1

Well, I told Kev what was the second question.

Speaker 2

No, no, no. The first question was what would Kevin think, yeah, yeah. And then the second question no, no, no. The first question was what would Kevin think, yeah, yeah. And then the second question was what would this Kevin tell that Kevin?

Speaker 1

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2

Which, to my awareness, you have not answered.

Grind to growth and layers of suffering

Speaker 1

No, I haven't answered that part yet. What would this Kevin tell that, kevin, it is going to suck. It is going to suck, but not in the way you think it's. I think there's two, there's two levels of, there's two layers of of suffer. They're suffering because there isn't enough, and then they're suffering because there is too much, and the suffering of not enough sucks worse than the suffering of too much. That was so good, dude. That's what you know. I'm a professional speaker when I go on podcasts.

Speaker 2

They say how are you? And I say I can't say good because I'm. That's not authentic. I would say I'm. I have back-to-backs all day. I'm here, I appreciate it, I really. And I say I'm overwhelmed. This is literally my words. I'm overwhelmed as hell, but I'm grateful for it because I remember the beginning, when it was crickets 100%, and that's the truth. You and I talked earlier off air about our current business circumstances being a lot of pressure. Yes, but it's much better than no one wanting to be on your calendar. And so it is dude, dude, that was well said. You're. You either have crickets and no one wants to have calls with you and you don't have any demand for your products and services, or you're massively overwhelmed with so much opportunity that you're burning down. There's very few people who can stay in the middle of that. I'd much rather be on the. I'm trying to do too much end.

Speaker 1

What I also would tell Kevin is look, I get weeks where they're slower. I'll get a slower week, and at the beginning of the week, when I look at it, I'm excited. It's like nice, I'm going to have some time. At the end of the week, when I look at it, I'm excited. It's like nice, I'm gonna have some time. At the end of the week.

Speaker 1

I don't feel nearly as accomplished and nearly as fulfilled. Nice, now is there a time and a place for that? Yeah, if I'm traveling, or tara and I want to spend more time together, whatever. But if it's just, oh yeah, nothing got booked, it's not the same, it's not this. I don't feel as fulfilled because I know I'm not growing and contributing as much as I could and I know that probably sounds, or potentially sounds, super pie in the sky. I understand, trust me, I thought the same thing in the beginning, but that's how I feel about it now.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'll have slower weeks and it kind of sucks. It's good from one perspective, but I don't feel as accomplished. I don't feel the same level of momentum, unless I'm really behind the scenes crushing what I'm supposed to be doing. But the days where I wake up and say like I don't have a call until two like what, what should I do from this list? It's like I don't really like those days that much. That's what saturday's for, saturday's for, that saturday's for. I'm not doing anything other than working on this list and then doing I I have some training that I'm going to do for the nlps team and that type of stuff, but that's what saturday's for. But that evolved over time.

Speaker 2

I wish I could have old kev listen to new kev. That would be so cool for me if I could watch that.

Speaker 1

You have a training to do on saturday you'd be like if you, if you could create a time machine, maybe that next level time services, nlts, next level time machine services. I don't believe time travel is possible.

Speaker 2

We've talked about it. Well, I do, yeah, yeah, what was your thing If you could?

Speaker 1

find a plane. It's a fact, this will happen, this 100% will happen. If you could find a plane and you could fly from the East Coast to the West Coast in less time than it takes for the time change. Theoretically, you're traveling through time, so if you could leave at noon, okay, and get there at one. There it's whatever time. I don't know what time.

Speaker 2

it would be one, three, it'd be one minus three hours, so it'd be 11, right, 11, no 10 no, 10, yeah, 10, 10.

Speaker 1

So I just bought myself like five hours, holy shit, no, not five hours. First of all, you only bought yourself two hours because it took you an hour to fly well, I just set you up because you just told me I just bought myself two hours.

Speaker 2

Wait, there's layers you bought yourself two hours in theory, but in the real world you didn't gain any more present well, no, I'm, I know, I know I'm still not, I'm not gonna die any later in life.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I did just buy myself two hours that day in terms of human consciousness, like everyone's. Yeah, we can't do this on what about in productivity, in product, in productivity?

Speaker 2

no, because you think about it, it's a drag and drop, you don't. Creativity? No, because you think about it, it's a drag and drop, you don't?

Speaker 1

you still have to sleep like this is a what if I stayed up for 26 hours you still have.

Speaker 2

You still lose those two hours because you need to. You didn't. This is the way to think about it. Every present moment is a building block that you can use. Imagine you have a bunch of coins and we all are born with a certain amount of coins. You ever all are born with a certain amount of coins. You ever see that movie with Justin Timberlake back in the day, where, instead of currency, they had time on there?

Sustainable routines

Speaker 1

One of the rules that I've lived by is never see a movie with Justin Timberlake.

Speaker 2

And it served me. No, I'm just kidding, no, I know. Okay, so it's a really cool concept.

Speaker 1

Nickelback has a video called saving me that has the same thing.

Speaker 2

Oh, it has, like the number of minutes you have left, got it okay. So essentially in this movie really cool concept we'll get off in a second is they have on their arm the amount of time left to live and instead of money, they use that as currency. It's a fascinating concept. Well, you wouldn't have gained any more on your arm. You just think you did. If that makes sense.

Speaker 1

Would I lose it slower?

Speaker 2

No, no, no.

Speaker 1

If there's anybody out there that's versed in this.

Speaker 2

Think about it You're not going to gain more present moments than anyone else.

Speaker 1

I don't know if you could say anything that would make this land. No, I think I can Last chance. Alright, I'm, I can Last chance, last chance, I promise Okay.

Speaker 2

All right, I'm sitting there in Massachusetts and you take off on the plane.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And when you take off, boom, it's noon okay.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm sitting there with my present moments and you're sitting there with your present moments. Okay, you take off, boom, you're in California. Take off, boom, you're in california three hours behind. So you get there in one hour. So you take off at noon, you get there at one and it's only 10 am for you. Think about the experience versus result. In the result, you have two extra hours. In the experience. You don't ever gain any new moments of time in your actual life and then when you, you fly back to me we're back on the same timeline.

Speaker 1

But I'm only thinking of one, 24-hour circle.

Speaker 2

That's the problem. Life is an infinite game within finite games, within an infinite game. You're thinking finite?

Speaker 1

Yeah, but in finite land, am I correct?

Speaker 2

Yes, but nothing's finite, this is.

Speaker 1

This conversation definitely is.

Speaker 2

I'll tell you what. So here's the thing.

Speaker 1

None of that matters really. Yeah, to anybody but me. To me that matters. That is a moral victory that I will take to my grave. Moral victory, yes, moral Oftentimes. To Alan I say that's not a hill I'm worth dying on, that is the hill that I'm worth dying on. I don't know why we even brought that up, I'm not sure. But oh, because you wish old Kev could hear new Kev, I do too. I think it would be. I think that would be fascinating. I hope that for everyone. I wish that older, less developed, you could hear from today, more developed you.

Speaker 2

Can we do an episode on momentum at some point? I think that would be really powerful, because I woke up this morning thinking keep the momentum. It's really nice, I can feel it. Can you feel the momentum?

Speaker 1

I feel, yeah, I feel it, I definitely feel it nlu is a energetic movement that is rippling self-improvement into the world.

Speaker 2

I can feel the momentum. I can feel it and humility states that you are grateful for the momentum and you don't start getting lackadaisical and complacent. You don't want to take it for granted. And so I woke up this morning saying, yeah, I'm working till 7, 10 to 7, back to backs all day, and I told Emilia take a me date tonight because I'm Jeffed. But I know know, in back of my mind I'm saying, alan, you remember back when you wished your life had this much demand and you wish, I know, you had this much momentum. So it's, it's a privilege and and you have to earn that privilege every single day. So I think momentum.

Speaker 1

What happens if? What happens if you get to the point where you say and this is a genuine question for you, like for you personally what happens if you get to the point where you do that long enough and then you say, ah, this ain't it Like the relationship? Every night I'm finishing at nine, I'm not seeing Emilia, then I have to sleep in more than I'd like. Like what then? What Then?

Maximize and optimize

Speaker 2

I would crunch the service window down, so you and I put our service window. It used to be 11 to 7, now it's 10 to 6. This was booked prior to that shift, so I wouldn't do this back to back. So I'm trying to maximize, but I'm also trying to optimize for the amount of output that is sustainable, because eventually the quantity takes a hit on quality, not only quality of your work and your services and your contribution, but also quality of life, and so I think that's different for everybody and we all evolve, so that's a whole other concept.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I appreciate that answer. I appreciate the question man, of course. I think it's important to touch on that, because that's the thing is. If I did seven weeks in a row like the one I have, would I think differently than I do right now? Maybe, maybe it would be, I don't know, it depends. I feel like the regiment is nice. I get up, I've hit the gym every day this week. Nice, it's flowing really nicely, things are evolving nicely. I'm overwhelmed, but a lot of the overwhelm I'm feeling is not stuck overwhelm.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, it's progress.

Speaker 1

It's this thing If I move this a little bit. I'm so overwhelmed that I have to do this in order to do this, to do this, but if I do this, then that will save me time in the long run. So let me focus on that.

Speaker 2

Last thing, that's another reason. Yeah, how you feel about yourself when you're by yourself. One of my clients, that's her main goal. Every client, we have a specific sort of mission statement. That is my one sentence of what you want me to help you accomplish, and hers is help me. I want to feel good about myself when I'm by myself. The point that I'm making with that, to connect it to this episode, is you feel good about yourself when you're by yourself because you know that you're growing and contributing and you're doing all you can with all you have within reason, at least more than you ever have and I think

Speaker 2

that that's ultimately what human beings want. I think, underneath it all, we want to grow and contribute in a meaningful way, and there's the interesting analogy of well, how tall will the tree grow? And it's as tall as it can. Human beings are the only creature really that doesn't do all it can with all it has, and I think that it's unfulfilling when we do that, and so you're more fulfilled than you ever used to be by far, even though before you were more short-term pleasure and maybe more quote-unquote happy.

Speaker 2

But that was only when you were with people. When you were alone by yourself, feeling bad about yourself, it was a different game, and so if kev seems super overwhelmed, it's true, but when he's by himself he feels good about himself because he's he's doing all he can with all he has, in alignment with kev, and I think that that's ultimately what we all want in life, and so that's a constant redesign I think another good episode would be juggling earning it and self-worth Fire, because I was going to say I like earning it, but I also understand that for other people you can over do that, depending on where your self-worth is.

Speaker 1

So let me mark that down because I think that would be a really cool episode. Same Earning it and self-worth, because what I was going to say is I love earning it, but I also feel like my self-worth is in a place where I'm not saying if I want to feel good about myself, I have to earn it, and if I am saying that, it's in the right amount.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

That's going to be an interesting episode.

Speaker 2

Definitely. Yeah, I can't even touch on it briefly because that's a.

Speaker 1

I can't even touch on it briefly because that's a. If anybody wants to take the three-hour plane from Sorry, the one-hour plane from the East Coast to the West Coast, you let me know. I will be working on it this weekend.

Speaker 2

I hope to have it done by this time next century, if you and I were on the phone that entire time while on the plane, and then when you landed, we were on the phone and then you took a plane back and we were still on the phone. There would be no extra time.

Speaker 1

Well, you've got to go to bed at some point. I don't. I've got the two extra hours. No, you still have to go to bed. Son, not me, you know me. I don't have to go to bed. I can stay up 30 hours. You could do that anyway without the plane, I know, but then it's 32 hours. It's not I got you.

Speaker 1

Next Love of the Nation we've got to hop because we both have calls. Next, love of the Nation. Our private Facebook group is on fire. Shout out to all of you who are engaging in there. We appreciate it so very much. Thank you to everybody who has been subscribing and leaving reviews. Please continue to do so if you feel so. What's the word? I'm looking for.

Speaker 1

Inclined Inclined, I like, encouraged, if you feel so. Encouraged Because, again, if we help more people, everything gets better. We get better, and then we can help more people, and then you can help us help more people, and then you're actually helping people too, and more people nice you have something quickly you have one next level monthly meetup number 31.

Speaker 2

Three ways to thrive in relationships not just your intimate relationship, but all relationships. The top three ways to thrive in relationships. Not just your intimate relationship, but all relationships. The top three ways to thrive in relationships. July 4th this is going to be a test.

Speaker 1

It's a risky thing we're doing.

Speaker 2

It's a risky thing we're doing here. We're going to see the data we want to see. We did a poll in Next Level Nation and asked if people would be willing to attend a monthly meetup on the 4th of July Particularly the people in the US, because I know the global people don't really care. It's not a holiday. We're going to see how it goes. So, july 4th 2024, 5 pm Eastern Standard Time. The three ways to thrive in relationships. Kevin also has a speech earlier that day, so we're going to come ready to rock totally free.

Speaker 1

The link to register will be in the show notes as always, we love you, we appreciate you, we are grateful for each and every one of you, and at nlu we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow talk to you soon.

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