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#1799 - You’ll Never Get FULL TIME Results With PART TIME Effort
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Numbers don’t lie, but people do. In today’s episode, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros challenge the idea that you can achieve full-time success with part-time effort. By sharing real-life examples and personal experiences, they emphasize the value of honesty, integrity, and the hard work required for long-lasting success. Whether starting a side hustle or aiming for big goals, this episode is a must-listen-to avoid common pitfalls and stay grounded in reality.
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(1:37) Reality check on side hustles
(5:03) Truth in numbers
(7:37) How lying about success can harm long-term fulfillment
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(13:53) Why you won’t get full-time results with part-time effort
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Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1,799, you'll never get full-time results with part-time effort. Guy on Instagram and it's some I don't know his handle, but he he tests out side hustles that people say are extremely easy to do to figure out whether or not they're extremely easy to do cool and I love side hustle, myth busters kind of
Speaker 1cool, yeah, yeah that's, that's kind of his thing. He says I wasted my time so you don't have to. And and here's the results, for lack of a better phrasing and I saw one yesterday that he did and a beautiful young lady jumps on the camera and she says I'm going to teach you how to make $5,000 extra a week from Etsy. And then he it's like a remix, so he remixes her video. And then he jumps in and says all right, I wasted my time so you don't have to. And then he goes through the thing and this video that she put up basically said something that we've been talking about very, very often, where all you have to do is you have to sell $150 products a week and you're making five grand a week. 100 times making $5,000 a week, $100 times 50 is $5,000. That's 5 G's a week. That's 60 G's a year, by the way, yeah, that's way more than 60.
Reality check on side hustles
Speaker 2Hold on $5,000. 52 times. Oh sorry, sorry, yeah, that's way more than that man.
Speaker 1That's $240,000 a year.
Speaker 2Yeah, whoa, that's. $5,000 a week is a solid quarter million dollar business right there. Yeah, you're crushing it. Yeah, and it's that easy. I mean, all you have to do is oh yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1You can sell stickers on Etsy and then next thing you know you'll be breaking in a quarter mil. That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2I coached a young lady. She coached a young lady on. She had digital art. She did digital art for picture picture your favorite family photograph with your pets in it and a good background and she creates a digital art version of it. Oh yeah, and I, she uses etsy. I think she had her own website.
Speaker 2It was a whole thing and she has been doing this. For what? Back when I coached her in and she has been doing this for? Back when I coached her in 2022, she had been doing this for probably five years like as a side hobby, not a side hustle, a side hobby and then it turned into money and this, that and the other thing and the the amount of effort. The reason why we stopped coaching amicably was the amount of effort that she had to put in. She eventually said, alan, I don't really want to put that much effort into this and I said, okay, no worries, she easily could have, easily, she could have scaled that business, she with very minimal effort. So actually she was probably making a thousand bucks a month or something, or 500 bucks a month with kind of just referral business and different people who wanted wedding photos and different things, but she didn't put. She didn't want to put any more than like 10 solid, focused hours a week into it.
Speaker 2And if she wanted to go full time she probably could have built a business like what that person's saying. Go full time, she probably could have built a business like what that person's saying, but it would take at least five more years and it would take at least 30 hours a week minimum of like focused effort. And so in the real world I've and she already had momentum too, because she had been doing this for years and years and years as a hobby.
Speaker 1So there's just so much fine print that that they aren't saying I saw something super funny shout out to uh, shout out to richard in our community good, good, good, good dude, really good dude richard just became a client.
Speaker 2Shout out to richard, yeah, did he? Shout out to richard?
Speaker 1yeah he, he messaged me the other night and he screenshotted a podcast advertisement. Oh yeah, and he was like hey man, what do you think about this? He's like you've probably seen so many of these. What do you think about this? You think it's a scam or what? And on the ad it said this podcast has over 20 million downloads in 226 countries.
Speaker 2No, and.
Speaker 1I Googled.
Speaker 2No, no, no no.
Speaker 1How many countries are there? 195, 196. And I said this is how I know it's a scam there aren't even that many. They did not do that. I swear to you.
Speaker 2They did no, I swear I swear to you that's so depressing, I swear to you so much for me.
Speaker 1It is so incredibly funny it is. So it is.
Speaker 2It is so incredibly funny 226 countries. This is why numbers will save your life, I know.
Speaker 1I'm an obsessive math guy, I know.
Speaker 2No one can lie to you when you actually know statistics.
Speaker 1Well, that's an easy one to.
Speaker 2And again, I'm not. Richard knew it was a scam so it's not like he didn't, couldn't you have?
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Speaker 1said 200? 226. You could have said anything 200? 226?. You could have said anything.
Speaker 2All you had to say was every country in the world.
Speaker 1That's all. If you said that you would have been good, 226. That has to be a joke. I don't know, but I can tell you that they're lying, of course. Fairly certain at this point you guys are lying.
Speaker 2Because that would be something you would know. I reached out to Kev recently this is for the listeners just behind the scenes. I said, hey, man, is it? I know that we're heard in over 155 countries just on Buzzsprout, but do you think it's aligned to say 175 countries? Because YouTube and SoundCloud, which is the platform we originally Like? In my bio it says 175 plus countries. I said, is it aligned for us to say that? And then we thought, right, and, and even that is outside my comfort zone because it's well, what if it was 174? You know what if it was 173? I don't think it is, I really don't so, but, dude, that just bothers me so much it does. It bothers me so much it's extremely comical to me I.
Speaker 2If you can choose one thing in life this is not at all the point of the episode I just just be honest with yourself and others. Your whole life will change when you just start being really honest. I was on a podcast recently and I triggered this guy so bad because I got on the show. He didn't do any research. It's okay, it is what it is. I understand people are. People are busy I'm busy too. Sometimes I don't do research and he said something along the lines and you can tell there's just tells when you podcast for long enough. There are tells with who who is really a strong podcaster, who has a strong listener base and who doesn't. And we produce how many shows? 40 plus shows at this point 47?
How lying about success can harm long-term fulfillment
Speaker 247 shows. Okay, so we know the stats, we know the numbers, we know our clients' numbers, we know the truth. We know the truth and this guy said something. He said something along the lines of yeah, man, we're racking in about 60,000 listens per episode and he could see in my energy, he could see in my energy. There's no possibility that that's true. I already researched your show. You have 14 reviews, maybe even less. I think this might have been the show with two, I'm not sure. I know one of the shows that day had 14 reviews, the other one had two. If you look, you want to know a tell for podcasters, you got to look at the, the reviews. Now some podcasters buy reviews and there's 500 reviews, all five stars. That's obviously not real, yeah, and so there's a correlation. And again, keep in mind that the reviews in podcast app only show the reviews in your country, so it's going to be lower reviews than a global show or whatever. But he only had two reviews and I'm in the US and the U? S and the U? S is the biggest podcast market, one of the biggest. So it's you. Just, it's impossible. There's no, there's no possibility that this guy had those.
Speaker 2He got so triggered that he like almost couldn't interview me the rest of the interview. At the end of the interview I said to him I said is this not even aligned? Do you, do you not want to do this? Like, don't even air this if you don't want to. He's like no, no, no, no, like I want to.
Speaker 2I've never been interviewed by a less enthusiastic host in my entire life. It's almost like and I think I know what happened and I could be wrong. So I'm holding that humility. I don't think that I am. I think that he has been lying to himself for so long that when he finally lied to someone else and knew that, I knew that it was there's no possibility. I think he got triggered and and got stuck in shame. And when he was stuck in shame, he kind of couldn't follow through with the interview because I think he realized in that moment while interviewing me obviously this is what I do for a living. This is like all we do. We are podcascasters. We podcast all week, every week. The only week you're not podcasting is when you're at PodFest next week.
Speaker 1I mean this is what we I'm still gonna bring my mic. I'll do a Podcast Growth U episode while I'm there. For sure, nice, that's awesome, because that's always cool.
Speaker 2But this is what we do, right. So I think he realized that he was caught in a lie and I just wanted to share that with everybody, because when you lie to yourself and you lie to others, sometimes you start convincing yourself of your own lies and that always has to eventually catch up with you and I think it creates shame.
Speaker 1It makes sense. I mean, and that's you might be thinking how is that connected to this episode? A lot of people are telling you you're going to get the results that they've gotten with less effort than they've invested. And yeah, if you work with Alan as a business coach, he can help you make things faster. If you work with me as a podcast coach, I can help you make things faster. But it's not going to be okay. It took me seven years. It's only going to take you seven days.
Speaker 2No, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, no, it doesn doesn't.
Speaker 1It just doesn't. It doesn't work that way. And again this, I don't know. We're in the streak of what potentially seem like negative episodes. The only reason this might seem like a negative episode is because there's so much false information out there about how you're going to accomplish your goals you.
Speaker 2there's a speaker I don't really like to say the names of speakers anymore. Anyways, tony Robbins. He says this. He says turning decades into days. Do you think that that's bullshit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's irresponsible, right A little bit, yeah. Yeah, yes, I can give you tactics and takeaways and expectations that took me decades to create, but you can't ignite the compound effect.
Speaker 1I cannot collapse experience.
Speaker 2I do say this to some of my clients sometimes I say I had a 16-year-old client, 18-year-old client, I said it took me 30 years to figure out what I'm teaching you now. That doesn't mean that you're going to implement it and it's going to work like magic. But it did take me a long time to actually figure that out. So maybe that's what they're trying to say. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1I think people just say stuff that sounds good on marketing. That's one thing we don't really do. The furthest I will take it is for group coaching. When we say, if you want to be the most consistent, fulfilled, aligned version of yourself over the next 90 days, that is my belief for group coaching. You're not going to leave a millionaire unless you're already close to being a millionaire, If you're.
Speaker 2if you make $900,000 a year, you might be a millionaire by the end of it. Yeah, that's right, but it's not.
Speaker 1I don't know. I don't know. It's very strange. I was watching something last night. Because I am, I watch weird stuff and it's always. I'm always thinking to myself like am I wasting my time when I'm watching this?
Speaker 2And oftentimes I think the same thing sometimes. I know you know that Even when you open this episode, I'm like what does he do when he's not podcasting?
Speaker 1He's just like watching these random things. I watch videos that help me understand how many people are actually lying. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm doing is there was a video I watched last night and there you know how there's like bodybuilding, fitness expos.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1There's a guy that goes there and he'll walk up to someone and say hey, man, you're looking good, what are you weighing nowadays? And the guy or the it's usually guys, he doesn't really I don't think he really does it to women He'll be like oh, I'm weighing about 350 right now, you know, just putting on muscle. He'll be like how tall are you again, 6'4", and scale. And he'll pull out a tape measure and say all right, you mind if I, if I get your weight, if I verify that people lose their mind.
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Speaker 1They absolutely lose their mind because most of them are lying. Why would they lie? Because it's a that's like a vanity stat. I was literally thinking to myself if that ever happened to me, if somebody came up to me and was like hey man, what are you weighing nowadays? I, I'll probably 173 and a half this morning.
Speaker 1Four bills, yeah uh, how tall are you about five, eight, four bells about five four, maybe about five, four and a half they would be so disappointed in the fact that I am so aware of, because that one of the I mean it's my insecurity. So of course I'm going to call out my insecurity. But I don't know, man, we live in a very strange time.
Speaker 2Well, I'm 6'1 and 3 quarters, but I say 6'2.
Speaker 1So there's always a little bit right, that's different. Yeah, that's different. So what was?
Speaker 2the guy Was he actually 6'2, you know 250?.
Speaker 1One said he was 6'9". He was 6'7.5 with shoes on. The weights were close. It's the height that a lot of guys are lying about. Yeah, how interesting. A lot of them wouldn't even let him. They wouldn't let him do it, and then they got very angry at him.
Why you won’t get full-time results with part-time effort
Speaker 2But Whenever someone gets angry, by the way, that is a tell, because if you are telling the truth, why would you get angry?
Speaker 1right because their thing is. Well, you just assume I'm lying.
Speaker 2It's disrespectful for you to assume that I'm lying interesting, I think.
Speaker 1In my mind it's like you're in an industry that's full of liars. I'm not saying you are lying, but there are a. There are a lot of people in your industry just like in hours.
Speaker 2Steroids yeah, it's like 50. What do you?
Speaker 1what do you mean? What do you mean, man? Yeah, even in, even in our industry. I would understand if somebody came to me and said hey, I don't really believe what you guys are saying in terms of how many down I would understand.
Speaker 2Isn't that just awareness though?
Speaker 1yeah, it's just awareness it's awareness and it's the fact that there's a lot of people that, yeah, just aren't telling the truth, because there are certain things that you can easily lie. I can lie about the amount of money I have in my bank account. You can't see it. I can lie about the amount of podcast listens we have. There's no way for you to find out, god, that's so depressing. I can't lie about YouTube views because it says Can't lie about YouTube subscribers because it says yeah, we're coming up on about 3 million subscribers.
Speaker 23 million Today, I think. I think it was 3 million. Yeah, 3 million signed up today. It's not, it's definitely not, no.
Speaker 1It's 1,100 or something.
Speaker 1But that's my goal in this episode is you're not going to get full-time results with part-time effort and results with part-time effort and there are going to be a bunch of people that are trying to convince you of that for the rest of time. Do you want to know why? Because if you get enough people that are trying to do part-time effort, you can make a full-time income. You can make a full-time income from 10 people doing part-time work if they buy your course or whatever the hell it is. So the integrity piece needs to be I just don't anybody to. I know we've been like, really talking about this a lot lately, but I think we're just catching up on the fact that we didn't talk about it for a long time because I didn't know how bad it was and I didn't know. I mean, there are some people at the very, very top of our industry who everybody listening to this podcast knows that they. They got where they got to by not being very truthful. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2For sure. I just don't want you to fall victim to that. That's all. I have a little cheat code around this. What you want to do is you want to ask someone's best friends maybe not even best friends what's a good way around this? I always say this, and I don't know if it lands but if you really want to know who I am as a man, you don't ask some listener. But if you really want to know who I am as a man, you don't ask some listener. You ask Emilia. She lives with me. She sees me every day. She sees my good, bad and ugly. She sees it all.
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Speaker 2And one of my favorite parts about being with Emilia and I'll celebrate her rather than myself with the women that I've been with in the past. I'm a heterosexual male. I've been with women in the past Okay, just keeping it high level here there were, there were times where I would and I'm not trying to be unkind because I dated some incredible women, so please don't villainize me for this but I remember thinking to myself damn, you are like less behind the scenes than than you are in the front of the scenes. That made me sad, and maybe this is a me thing. It made me sad, because with Emilia it's the opposite. I'm not kidding, I mean, she's harder working than anyone knows. She never is not on point ever. It's unbelievable and to me, I can't have reverence for someone who is pretending to be more than they are. I like, don't do that anymore. I just don't have reverence for that. And I did the same I when I was younger. I was, I was pretending to be more than I was when I was insecure. So I'm guilty too, but I didn't have reverence for myself. I didn't admire myself. I deeply didn't like myself during that time and I think that that's just a really depressing part of the world that we live in.
Speaker 2So I think it's virtuous and courageous to be honest about your struggles and things that you suck at, and I think there's so much good in that. And I think that you can't be fulfilled if you're not. If you are putting on a show like we've all done before, you aren't going to be fulfilled. And what if you could become the type of person who really was? Imagine that same, and this is a metaphor. Imagine that guy comes up to you and he goes hey, what are you weighing? And he goes hey, what are you weighing man and you go probably like 185 or something, and how tall are you, I don't know? Like five, three, five, four, and then he measures you and you're actually five, six and you actually weigh 170 and you're like pretty ripped dude I hope, how cool that would happen.
Speaker 1Five, six, how cool extra right.
Speaker 2How cool is it to be the opposite? How cool is it to actually be better than what you're showing? Or I think that that has something to it and I think that that person most likely will be more fulfilled. Because I just think I've been full of it in my life at short times and short bursts and I think as I've matured and as I've gotten older and as I've become more well developed and more intelligent and better, I'm just less and less and less full of it. I think I just become more okay. And it's the irony, too, of when you actually become and start loving yourself we're going to do an episode soon about that when you start actually having reverence for who you really are behind the scenes, when no one's watching, you don't really need to fake it anymore. It's this weird thing. And then you have a different problem, which is basically no one thinks you're that great because you're not showing anything off.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's an interesting thing. When you get to the place where you just admit what is that you can't change about yourself, you kind of change your perception of that. It's like, well, this is kind of reality. That's the thing is. I'm going to meet people in person, so if I say I'm 6'2", they're going to find out quickly. Yeah, it's not going to take long. When you see Alan and I standing next to each other and I'm not the same height as Alan- You're going to be like what?
Speaker 2Oh, I never said that Alan must be 7'10". I never said I was 6'2".
Speaker 1When did I say that? So again, I do believe awareness. If somebody is going to take advantage of somebody else, the person with higher awareness is going to take advantage of the fact that the person with lower awareness just doesn't know better.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And that's why you can tell your toddler that you're going to give them a chocolate chip cookie and then slip a carrot because they don't know. That's why you can do magic tricks with dogs.
Speaker 2Oh, how dare you with the carrot thing.
Speaker 1You throw your sheet up and then you hide and the dog doesn't know where you are. They just don't have awareness of how that works. And I'm not saying you're a toddler or a dog.
Speaker 2I'm not saying that, but just as an easy example for that, yeah, kevin, and I hate when people get taken advantage of and, truth be told, we definitely have gotten taken advantage of in the well, that's why we hate it.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, we were very naive, holy shit for sure. Me more than you, I think. Uh, who knows, man, I don't know you do in different ways. Hey, no, no in different ways. Yeah I thought all the people that I thought were super wealthy like were really, really, really super wealthy, and sometimes that's not the case, you know. I just didn't know when it came to that. Alright, if you are Want to get to the next level, depressing you.
Speaker 1If you're looking to get to the next level and you want to be a crudillionaire tomorrow, we have a course that's $700,000 and You'll make that back, you'll probably make it back today. If you do it right, no money back. If you don't like it too bad, it's whatever it's valuable. If you don't find value in it, it's your fault.
Speaker 2No.
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Speaker 2people reach out and they have died at the cinnamon episode. Cinnamon, the cinnamon.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, that was what I told.
Speaker 2Amelia that she said no Same thing Same thing.
Speaker 1If you want to do that supplementary to the work you're doing, I'm all for it, but that ain't going to be the thing that makes the 90% difference. That's all I'm saying. I don't want to yuck anybody's yum, as the kids say. I think I don't want to yuck your yum, what you have yums like yum, yum, yum, I like that. I don't want to yuck your yum, I don't want to. Is that a thing? That's a thing people say I've heard it in the world. Okay, so I don't want to yuck somebody's yum, okay fair.
Speaker 2I think it was fun to be reached out to by people laughing hysterically. I'm glad people resonated with it. We've done some good content. I have a session with a new potential coaching client later today and I thought to myself what am I going to say? What am I going to tell this person? Why should they coach with me?
Speaker 2I'm going to be very, very honest with you, and the things that I am honest with you about will help you improve your life because it's based on the truth, and the best metaphor in the world, in my opinion, is if you have a GPS with the wrong current location, the wrong destination location and the wrong data of the terrain, you're going to drive into a lake on accident and then blame yourself when in reality, you might just not have the truth. You might have been told misinformation about yourself, others and the world, and I'm just going to help undistort the reality, as painful as that might be. I had someone recently say you're so good at getting to the core of the matter and so if you're ready for that, if you're humble, courageous and vulnerable, let's rock and roll. I promise you your life will improve. I will not promise you any millions overnight or anything crazy, but I promise you your life will improve and, yes, it will be through struggle and some hard truths that you have to accept 100%.
Speaker 1As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 2Please reach out.