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#1804 - What Makes Somebody Coachable???
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What’s the secret behind successful personal growth? In this episode, Kevin and Alan share the vital traits that make someone genuinely coachable. Discover how humility, curiosity, and a strong work ethic can open up new opportunities, and see why embracing feedback is essential to reaching your full potential. Whether you’re just beginning or already on your path, these tips will help you grow and make a more significant impact.
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Show notes:
(1:43) Are you coachable?
(3:45) Know your superpowers and kryptonite
(6:48) The contrast between open and closed-off coaching experiences
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(12:45) The power of coachability
(16:16) The role of trust and the impact of past experiences on coachability
(18:08) Understanding core va
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Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1804, what Makes Somebody Coachable, I had a podcast breakthrough session today, as I spoke about in Freestyle Friday, and this is the same individual that I was talking about. Podcast breakthrough sessions are free 30-minute sessions where anybody can bring questions. They can bring anything, anything I can do to add value to them their podcast, their journey, whatever and they're scheduled for 30 minutes.
Speaker 1I was on one today for an hour and four minutes and I loved it. I loved every second of it. I did not want it to end. I was having a blast. It was amazing because the person that showed up was humble and they were extremely coachable and they had great questions and they just wanted to learn. There are other ones that I've been on, where the second it starts. I can tell the person either just doesn't want to be there, you didn't have to come, I invited you and you said yes, and cool, awesome, but that's never fun. So anytime I get an awesome human on the other side of the Zoom machine, like I did today, there's always a bunch of lessons there, and it's very appropriate that we're doing the episode, because I suggested he do something. He said how do I become a better speaker? And I said one of the things that worked really well for me was doing a one minute Instagram story every day, like I did one every day for a year.
Speaker 2Yeah, I remember that man. That was, it feels like forever ago.
Are you coachable?
Speaker 1It does feel like forever ago. I said that helped me a ton because as long winded as I can be. It also is really good because you have to take something and break it into a one minute segment. He already did it. He did it and tagged me in it.
Speaker 1Like an hour later, because I was talking to him about the awareness implementation gap. I said you're never going to not think enough. You're very intelligent. I said do not let your intelligence hurt your consistency. You're very intelligent. You're going to be fine from that front. We need to get you taking more action. And he was very, very coachable. So I thought that would make for a cool episode. Because I don't know, I think those are. I like to think I'm coachable. I like to think Alan is coachable. If that's something of value that has helped us grow and accomplish in any way, it's worth sharing.
Speaker 2I had a coaching session last week with someone who was very, very, very honest with herself and she said and I know she wouldn't mind me sharing this, but it's anonymous, it doesn't matter she said the only reason I've gotten here is because of a lot of. The reason is because of you. And I said I appreciate that. You know, give yourself, of course, some credit. But my point in that is I said I want you to take out a piece of paper. Let's write down your superpowers. Let's write down your top five superpowers. Number one you're coachable, super, super coachable. This person. I've helped her with her system of success for years and she just never misses. She's been habit tracking for probably five years without missing. That's a big deal.
Speaker 1For sure.
Speaker 2Imagine everyone out there. Imagine habit tracking for five years what you could accomplish. It would blow your mind. It's awesome. Okay, so super coachable Number would blow your mind. It's awesome. Okay, so super coachable. Number two work ethic Work ethic. Number three humility.
Know your superpowers and kryptonite
Speaker 2I think humility and coachability are kind of similar If you don't have humility, you're not going to listen to any coach, most likely. And then the fourth one was grit. And then I don't know the difference between resilience and grit. I think grit is when you choose to put yourself in pain for a greater end state. I think resilience is enduring pain that's happening to you.
Speaker 2But those were the five and ultimately I said write those somewhere you can see them and just remember this is who you are and this is how you got here. And if you stick to those you're going to be, you're going to blow your own mind because, truth be told, this person she's admitted this she doesn't believe in herself that much. Guess what? That's okay. That's okay if you have the right people in your corner and you focus on those five. So I said underneath it, right, kryptonite. Kryptonite is I don't believe in myself, lack of self-belief. You can build it, state-proof, self-assigned. We have a formula. You can build it. So coachable, excuse me. Coachability is your ability to consistently take feedback, sift through it, figure out what's true for you and then take action.
Speaker 1I think there's curiosity there too. I like curiosity.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1The questions were just. I had another really good, it was a coaching call.
Speaker 2Our voices are going. It's because of the 14 episodes this week. Man, my voice is struggle bus.
Speaker 1Yeah, understandable. I had a coaching call yesterday with an amazing human and just the questions. There's the. It takes humility to know you have a call coming up and then to prep for it To say, all right, let me take 15 minutes or a half hour, an hour and let me really think about how I want the call to go, versus just showing up and saying, alright, let's see what is going to be provided to me today. It's like as a student as a, I guess, student is probably the best phrase I don't mean that.
Speaker 1Well, yeah, I guess I'm the teacher in this example, going in with a mindset of it's my job to extract value out of this person versus what am I going to get here? I think that's a really good way to look at it. How do I extract as much value as possible? And I always love when people bring questions because I'm not a natural teacher. I don't really want to pull up a whiteboard and make a lesson. I want to know what you want to know, or I want to become aware of what you're not currently aware of yet and then we can dive in. I like that. But I was really impressed with the gentleman that I had the opportunity to do the podcast breakthrough session with, because he was just super, super, super coachable, super, super humble, hungry, curious, hungry, curious, appreciative, appreciative, and yeah, just appreciative. I know I from the second we started the call, I said I'm going to do this as long as he stays. I will do this call for as long as he stays on the other line.
Speaker 1I don't care, I don't care if it's two hours until my next, it doesn't matter, I don't care, it doesn't matter, I don't feel great. Don't care if it's two hours until my next, it doesn't matter, I don't care, it doesn't matter, I don't feel great, doesn't matter.
The contrast between open and closed-off coaching experiences
Speaker 2Let's contrast that with someone who, the moment you get on, you're like oof I was on I had a podcast pre-call.
Speaker 2Sorry, I had a podcast pre-call earlier and I didn't. It wasn't misaligned, it was right on the line, though it's. Do you really want to be me, to be here? You're not really vibing with me. And I said to her I said if you don't want to do this interview, we don't have to genuinely Like I want to make sure I don't. I said I don't want to do this unless you want to do it. If it's going to be a good episode, you have to want to interview me. If you don't want to interview me, this is going to be terrible. It's going to be a waste of my time and a waste of your time. And she's like no, no, no, I really do. It's well, okay, then let's do it. But ultimately, that knew it would be an uphill, energetic battle. I knew it was uh, you're not. You're not sure about me.
Speaker 2And that's okay, but I'm not going to sit here and dance for you. I'm not going to try to prove myself to you, because and again, that's a fine line because when you're, you do need to be appreciative and I need to come correct and I need to be appreciative for the opportunity. I said listen, I appreciate it. I started listening to podcasts nine years ago. They really helped me change my life. I'm here to do two things I'm here to spread self-improvement, which is ultimately the mission holistic self-improvement and I'm here to practice my craft, and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2The name of the show is Transformational Thinking, something along those lines, and transformational thinking is something I feel like I've done my entire life and I'm excited. Let's rock and roll. And and I just want to make sure you're excited too so, like halfway through the sort of pre-call interview, I asked her are you sure you want to do this? Because I don't want you to feel like you have to if this, if this feels like a chore, let's, let's not Right, and so what's the difference there? What? What is the difference? And again, that person, we're good, we're going to do the interview and it ended up being aligned, but there have been ones that it was just. It's very clear.
Speaker 1You don't really want to be here said all right, what is your biggest struggle and what can I help you with? And they said oh, I don't have any problems or any struggles or anything. I was like, okay, well, I got nothing for you. Then I need something to work with.
Speaker 2They said I don't have any struggles.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah. It was basically like what do you want to work on the most that you're not, and this was a coaching session. No, no, this was a breakthrough session.
Speaker 2Breakthrough session still has breakthrough session.
Speaker 1I mean, it's yeah, it's a coaching, it's a free coaching session is what a breakthrough session really is. And it yeah, it was that I'm not really struggling with anything, I am. I'm hitting all my goals. Well, you told me that you wanted to impact more people, so what's going on with that?
Speaker 2it was brutal, it was terrible, it was absolutely terrible. There's not much underneath why it was terrible, so this person obviously didn't have a ton of humility. We're not bashing people, we're just studying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1No, we're studying. I think the person didn't have a ton of humility and I also think they were closed off. It was almost like they. I guess this is humility. They did not want me to see behind the scenes into how much they were actually struggling. I know there's tells, I can tell. I can tell by looking at things and I was interviewed and I did research. I can tell. I know what's going on behind the scenes more than you probably think. I do Not all this stuff, but it was. Let me keep everything close to myself and not share it. And it's very complete opposite of somebody who comes with 25 questions who literally says I'm here to learn and I'm here to grow. And I know in order for me to learn and for me to grow and for you to help me do that, you need to know as much of the truth as I'm comfortable sharing.
Speaker 2You remember when we interviewed Evan Carmichael, way back and he stayed for an hour? Yes, he allocated 20 minutes, he stayed for an hour.
Speaker 1Do you think that that's what he sensed is just coachability? It was that and it was questions. He said that. He said that when I went to toronto it we asked really good questions. He could tell that we did our research and we were curious. And yeah, we were, we were interested, we just wanted to talk, we wanted to have deep talks. We we wanted to learn more.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah. It was all that that coachability piece is huge. Here's the challenge playing the empathetic view of that person that you're referring to, who was closed off. It's almost okay that person might have been bullied when they did share, that they were struggling 100%. So then they show up in the coaching call trying to pretend that they have it all together and okay, well, if you have it all together, then what are we doing here? I can't help you then.
Speaker 1Or they thought I was going to try to sell them on something.
Speaker 2Which is also probably what's happened. Yeah, also completely understandable.
Speaker 1If you come in and say well, I'm really struggling with blank, and I say ha, perfect, let me introduce you to our seven-step system to overcome what you're struggling with.
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Speaker 1And I don't do that. It literally says in the email this is not a sales call, I'm not going to sell you on anything. I just like talking to podcasters and I wish I had somebody who wanted to offer me a free call in the beginning, that knew stuff, wanted to offer me a free call in the beginning, that new stuff. I won't say I know everything, because I don't, but that new stuff. So I again, I do think it's important to have empathy for the fact that if you've been taken advantage of on a situation like this, you're most likely not going to approach this situation with the utmost humility. I think it's hard to be humble when you're protecting yourself, understandably.
The power of coachability
Speaker 1So so, yeah, agreed, yeah, but being coachable goes a long way. It's not just about I'm not saying Listen to this episode and then figure out what it takes to be coachable and then work with Kevin and Alan, because now you know you're coachable and they're going to want to work. I'm not saying that there's so many parallels between being coachable and being a good leader and being a good team member and being somebody who other people want to be around, and I would love to spend time with a person I talked to today there's one client that you and I both coach and we'll keep it anonymous.
Speaker 2Shout out to you. If you're listening, you probably know who I'm talking about. I had a call with this person yesterday, nice, and amy has a call with her tonight as well. So it's she gets coached by three people on the NLU team. Talk about just being poured into and talk about coachable. It's just awesome. Those calls are awesome, love it. Let's go and listen, listen, get off my horse for a second. We've made every mistake for seven years Honestly, nine. I started my first business when I was 22, 23, 22, 21 I don't know it was back in college, made every mistake that failed.
Speaker 2We won business competitions and I still failed and blah. And then car accident, 26,. Nine years ago I started my own business. So we have nine years of every single day I there. I have gone nine years without a single day of there's not been one single day in nine years where I didn't think about how to succeed in my own business. That doesn't mean I was spending all day, every day doing that, but not a single day has gone by in nine years almost 10 because I'm almost 36 whoa where I haven't thought about how to succeed in starting and growing and scaling my own business, our business. We've made so many mistakes like we can. We can help. We can help, but I get it because if you come guarded.
Speaker 1Well, and everybody says that.
Speaker 2I know Everybody says they can help.
Speaker 1Everybody says that, yeah, I know, and the truth is, I think everybody can to a degree, but degrees are different, depends, yeah and Well.
Speaker 2The other side of that coin is I actually regret some of the. I was overly coachable, I think.
Speaker 1I would say so.
Speaker 2Early on. I took advice from everybody. That was a huge mistake.
Speaker 1I had the opposite problem.
Speaker 2I mean most people, I think, early in the journey they're trying to portray more success than they really have and therefore they're closed off to learning from people who really could pour in. And they don't have enough mentors and coaches and get a therapist to do that. But again, again, not going to tell anyone what to do. But I think that would be beneficial. I was overly open. I was an open cup, pour in, pour in, pour in, and a lot of the advice in hindsight was wildly inaccurate and I wish that I had, and I take responsibility for this too, because I trusted people to know what they were talking about more than they really did.
Speaker 2There's also differences between business to business, versus business to consumer, versus business to government. So all different types of businesses, all different industries. The globe has changed more in the last 20 years than the previous 300. So I get it. I get that most of my coaches and mentors didn't really understand maybe me, or they didn't understand what I was trying to accomplish, or maybe they didn't understand the market or the self-improvement space. They certainly didn't. But at the end of the day, I still implemented a ton and I still learned a lot, and most of it was through massive pain and failure, quite frankly. But if you're overly open and you are listening to everyone, gain some trust issues. Let's bring up some trust issues here. If you're super closed off and you're trying to pretend to be more successful than you are and you're really guarded, you might want to increase the humility and the curiosity.
The role of trust and the impact of past experiences on coachability
Speaker 1I think another and we got to get out of here after this. But I think another attribute of somebody who's very coachable is understanding their own core values. I think that's very important, because the more you're aware of that, the better somebody can coach you. Oh, you don't want to work 17 hours a day. That's really good to know, because the advice I'm going to give you might be different than the advice I'd give somebody else. Or, even more importantly than that, some of the stuff I say will not apply to you as much as other stuff will, even if I don't tell you to do it, even if I don't say hey, this is advice from a coach to somebody who's trying to improve. If you're going to take pieces of my story differently, it just won't resonate with you.
Speaker 1So, and then, last, last, last thing, before we go, at the end of the call I I told this person. I said I want you to email me if you have any questions at any time, anything I can do. I want to add value into your life because you're going to impact people, and if I can help you impact more people, that means I impact more people. So it's it's that too. It's having the you're going to do this with or without me. If I can help you do it better, that's awesome. That's having the. You're going to do this with or without me. If I can help you do it better, that's awesome. That's a win, win, win, win, win win and then that person wins.
Understanding core values for effective coaching
Speaker 2Think about that. Okay. So Kev wins because he learns you articulate things in a new way. You get asked questions you've never been asked. You get breakthroughs you never had before. That person wins because they get things that they get poured into in a way they've never been poured into. Now they implement more. Now they're more successful. When they're more successful, they attract other levels of success and now you're associated with that, and then they come to you for help and then maybe referrals or maybe they end up a client. There's something to be said for that. Now you can also over-serve at the expense of yourself, and obviously Kevin and I's voice is messed up here, like I had a moment earlier where I'm I'm not going on a podcast after this and I I had that moment of I'm still gonna go on it, but I'm right on the line here.
Speaker 1I really gotta get back off, as r&r I'm traveling next week. So I I crossed the threshold in the week and I said I think I have to optimize for next week here because I'm going to be at a podcast conference and I need to be 100% Agreed. But lessons, lessons. All right, we got to hop because Alan does have a podcast to be on in two minutes. As always, we love you, we appreciate you. We are very grateful, very thankful for each and every one of you. Make sure you're subscribed if you want to get to the next level. Every single day, and as always at NLU, we do not have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow. Talk to you soon.
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