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#1806 - Do You Ever Resent Your Goals?
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Have you ever felt your goals hold you back instead of driving you forward? In this episode, Kevin and Alan open up about their struggles with the challenges of chasing big dreams. They discuss the tough choices and hard work that often come with goal-setting and how to keep the excitement alive. If you’ve ever wondered if your goals are worth the effort or felt stressed by the sacrifices they demand, this episode is for you.
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(1:58) Resenting goals and the struggle to balance life
(5:32) Filtering life through the lens of goals
(8:32) The size of the standards
(13:11) Prioritizing and managing goals effectively
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(16:36) Immediate gratification Vs. Long-term investment
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Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1806, do you ever resent your goals? Ellen and I kind of did a debrief on Podcast Movement 2024. I don't know how I feel yet. I'm going through an identity crisis, as I do when I go to podcasting events or when I travel in general, I think. But we were talking about how, on one of the nights, the organization rented an entire floor of top golf, which, again, I don't know how much that cost. I'm guessing it was about thousands or tens of thousands of dollars, I don't know. And there was a little I didn't want to go.
Speaker 2What is Topgolf? I'll be very honest.
Speaker 1Topgolf for those who might not know is an upscale driving range experience. So you go hit golf balls. Is it indoor?
Speaker 2or outdoor.
Speaker 1It's outdoor but it's covered, so you kind of get your own little room. It probably has TVs and maybe a mini bar, or maybe there's just a big bar, but they have TVs and stuff in it seats. You can get food and apps brought over, drinks brought over. I've never been. I've never been. I just know what it is. I'm terrible at golf and I don't really like golf. So if it was I don't know, top hockey or something, I'd probably want to be in on that, but not I.
Resenting goals and the struggle to balance life
Speaker 1I went golfing one time with one of my friends and I was probably I don't know early, early 20s, no, earlier 18 maybe. I went golfing with one of my friends and my uncle and I left on like the third hole and my my friend was like dude, you're gonna leave me here. And I said you do whatever you want. Man, I'm leaving, I'm taking off, I can't do this anymore. I suck. This is hurting me physically and mentally and emotionally to be this bad. So full transparency I didn't golf alone back in your 20s after I had to work on my.
Speaker 1I had to work on my craft. I didn't want to go to Topgolf. I don't really have any interest in going. It doesn't start until like 9 at night. I'm in bed at 9.30. No, no, no, I can't do this. I don't want to go do this.
Speaker 1But there was a very, very small piece of me that had a little bit of resentment of the fact that if I want to go to the gym tomorrow I have to be up at five. The gym's 15 minutes away. That's the closest, nicest one I could find the venue. People are getting there at like eight. So if I want to get to the hotel at eight and the hotel is like 15 minutes away, so I have an hour of travel between all the places I'm going to go. I got to shower, I got to iron my clothes. There's no way I'm going to be able to go out and then get up at five. That's not good.
Speaker 1And then I asked Alan. I said what do you think about doing an episode on resenting your goals? Because, yes, we're very positive about goals and goals are amazing and goals create the results that we aspire to and you learn a ton about yourself and the type of person you become in order of, in order to the type of person you become in order to be capable of attracting, aka creating and sustaining those results are amazing. But some days it sucks to have goals because it doesn't allow you necessarily to have the quality of life that you want.
Speaker 1It would have been really cool to go play top golf if that's something that I valued. But even if I valued golf at a very, very high level, I wouldn't have gone. It just wasn't. I would have regretted it. I would have regretted going and staying out until midnight and then going to the gym at five. I wanted to lift, I was super excited to work out, I was in a new gym, it was awesome. But that's kind of the frame of this episode. Sometimes your goals suck and I think it's really easy to turn your goals into enemies or really resent your goals, because your goals are going to dictate what is in alignment and, ultimately, what's not.
Speaker 2That's exactly it. Your goal is the moment. You set a goal, immediately, you have to filter everything you do and don't do.
Speaker 1through that, what's a goal you resent currently? You have a goal you resent?
Speaker 2Yeah, so Emilia and I are doing this thing where we go to bed at 10 pm. Every night we're in the bedroom at 10. We don't necessarily go right to bed, but we're in the bedroom and the pets are away, and that's been hugely beneficial. Wake up earlier, get better sleep I mean, there's so many pros, so many good things, but sometimes I'm resentful of last night. For example, we only got 35 minutes of by the time we sat down. Okay, by the time we get home from the gym, get everything settled, get the meals prepped, it was 9 15 by the time we sat on the couch to eat. And I'm like, okay, set a timer for 9, 50, 35 minutes.
Filtering life through the lens of goals
Speaker 2And I told emilia one of my core values, one of my cup fillers love languages is I need an hour of rr, that's it. I don't need that much. I need an hour and for some reason it's actually like an hour. If I, we did, we do a me, we date. So what is a me? We date it. It's a date where you're together but not together. So imagine you're in the same room, she's watching her show and I'm watching something on the projector an hour and I'm I don't know. It's like I'm good, cool, it was rock and roll, let's, let's get up and grind. But for some reason, if I don't get that hour, I'm just a resentful, grumpy, grumpy gills Asshat. I don't know if I'd call myself an asshat, but I would say I'm grumpy, I'm annoyed, I'm frustrated. And again, it's not anything crazy. But I woke up this morning, looked at my calendar and I was like awesome, okay, back to back, to back to back to back, to back to back, to back, to back to back. I probably exaggerated that. I think it's yeah, no, I didn't. Nope, I'm looking at my calendar. No, I didn't back, I didn't exaggerate it and it's like okay, happy fucking Friday. And honestly, if I had gotten R and R this week, I wouldn't feel that way, because there's pros and cons to everything.
Speaker 2Emilia is super pumped, 10 out of 10. She loves the mornings, she adores waking up early and being up with the sun and all that kind of stuff, and she's the happiest morning person in the entire world. She's like she's a much more of a morning person than I am, and so we wake up with a big smile. It's a wonderful morning together. It's been actually really nice. I wake up with my journal. It's right by my bedside. I do my journal in bed with her. It's been really nice, but pros and cons.
Speaker 2And so the moment that you set a goal, the height of that goal dictates the size of the standards. We've talked about that a thousand times. Of course, the size of the standards is what I think we build resentment for. What's a good example of this? Okay, the 10 pound and 10 week challenge. We've been talking about it a lot, but I think it's a good metaphor, the. I'm about to hit one 90 again. I'm building up and it's happening a little quicker. Last time I weighed myself was one, 87 and a half, and then it was one, 88. So I'm going up quick and I tend to do that. But I'm feeling good. I'm feeling strong again, I'm feeling full again. After a cut of 10 pounds so 11.4 pounds in nine weeks I just was starting to feel a little bit weak and I personally I'm an ectomorph, I'm tall and lanky, so I like being thick. I like.
Speaker 1Nobody knows what an ectomorph is. By the way, no one does. Every time you say it no, no, have not studied ectomorph and mesomorph.
Speaker 2Great point thank you for that tall and lanky picture, someone who's naturally tall and lanky, and they basically struggle to build muscle and so I like to be bigger. Kevin likes to be leaner because he's mesomorph built like a.
Speaker 1I'm built like a sausage bar stool, like a bar stool. There you go there you go.
The size of the standards
Speaker 2So my whole point of this though 11.4 pounds, nine weeks. It sucked because I had to eat so much less and while grinding business goals, relationship, all this stuff, one of the things that I enjoy most. One of the things that I enjoy most is food. I adore food. I'm a huge fan, huge fan.
Speaker 2And when you and I travel, I mean most is food. I adore food. I'm a huge fan, huge fan. And when you and I travel, I mean we're just pumped about food. Remember when we got tacos like six nights in a row, they were bomb In Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Pittsburgh. It was great. So food is a huge love. Language Fills my cup Not.
Speaker 1Pittsburgh Sorry, sorry, that was Wisconsin, wisconsin In. Sorry, sorry, that was wisconsin, wisconsin.
Speaker 2We got dominoes every night, yeah good times, good times, and so when I'm dieting, it's I get resentful of my goals a little bit, and that's why I think that's a good example. So every time you set a goal whether it's fitness, health, wealth, life, love usually there's sacrifices you have to make, and if you sacrifice something that's a core value, it can be very hard to not be a little annoyed.
Speaker 1We were talking about this before. It's very important to figure out what is over-optimizing for a goal, meaning one of the nights I was one of the nights I was in Virginia, I think. I stayed in Virginia, I was getting ready for bed and I was like, honestly, I think I'm going to sleep a little bit tomorrow, because it was the day I was leaving. I could go to the gym a little bit later and it was the first time. I could not tell you. The last time I didn't get up at six. I'm not sure when it was, but it was the first time in for a long period of time I didn't get up at six o'clock in the morning and I think I slept till like 6 45, which for me was huge. And now I'm today I got up at six. I know I think I got it at 6.30 today. I Jeffed today it was my first morning home. I was in my bed. I was like, eh, I didn't have any meetings. I had two meetings today, because I try not to schedule a ton after travel because I'm usually fried. But I wonder if it would be productive Just like when you're dieting, sometimes it's productive to add in like a diet break where you don't go crazy, you don't go off the rails and say I'm going to get 12 pizzas today.
Speaker 1It's called a refeed. Yeah, you can do a refeed. Or you can have a week or a couple days at maintenance where you just eat whatever your maintenance calories are. Maybe that's something for you, whether you're watching or listening, that would be constructive. It's just very it can be very dangerous, because the last thing you want to do is work so hard to get a result and then have your reward erode all the progress you just made towards the result. So it's a very, it's a very important I won't say balance, but it's an important thing to understand where you have to find the right amount of that. I don't want to sleep until noon and then miss an entire half of day. I don't want that. What is the less optimal but still optimal amount? Maybe?
Speaker 2I think one of the questions everyone can ask themselves is what's your 10 out of 10?, what's your 9 and what's your 8? In ask themselves is what's your 10 out of 10?, what's your nine and what's your eight? In other words, what's the priority? So I told Amelia this when we started the 10 pm thing I said is that the thing I'm optimizing for, that's what we're doing. So that's the 10 out of 10, meaning I'm going to be allowed to miss on the other stuff, like if there's dishes in the sink, that's okay, we're going to leave them and get to bed. She said yes, it's very important to understand what's the most important thing. This podcast is the 10 out of 10 for us. So over the last seven years we've never missed an episode In business. We never will. Let's say, I had a coaching call and you and I would record at 8. We'd record at 9. We'd record at 10 pm. If we have to, we've done it. We don't want to have to do that and if we're proactive and effective adults, we won't do that.
Speaker 1And do you resent it more when we do? I do, definitely, for sure, for sure, definitely. I just want to throw that in there.
Speaker 2No, it's so important and so you can't have and this is why I do this with my clients. I don't set 50 goals. I don't agree with that at all. If you want a vision board and you want to write down 500 things you want to accomplish in your lifetime, that's fine. But I, when I set up goals for people and I'm I'm very, very grateful, I just got my 29th client that I'm currently coaching.
Prioritizing and managing goals effectively
Speaker 2Someone reached out to me recently and they said Alan, you make it sound like you only have ever had 29 clients. No, no, no, no. I've had dozens, if not hundreds. I have 29 currently on my roster, like 29 that I'm coaching now. But anyways, the reason I say that isn't to brag about me. It's to say I'm doing this with 29 individuals. We are setting goals and I only ever do three goals. I used to do let's write down a list. You and I have done it. Let's vision, vision board. Let's no, no, no, three at a time.
Speaker 2And the reason why is because you're going to resent the hell out of your goals. If you try to do 50 things all simultaneously. You're going to get overwhelmed. You're going to end up doing less. It's almost like you have to choose what are the top three goals this year that you care about most and then what are the top three behaviors under each of those, and then let the rest ride, because you're going to resent your goals so much If they're too high, if there's too many of them, if they're outside of alignment with your core them, if they're outside of alignment with your core values, if they're outside of alignment with the quality of life you want.
Speaker 2I was thinking about this earlier. I think I was getting ready, I think I was in the bathroom and I was thinking what an interesting metaphor this would be. Today, a human being we'll call him human A can take $100 and buy something enjoyable for that $100 on a credit card, or they can put that $100 into an investment account. The person who we'll call it human A and human B. Human A puts $100 on a credit card for something they enjoy now. Human B puts $100 in an investment account. Human A gets immediate gratification and gets to enjoy themselves right now and human B's future got bigger, better and brighter.
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Speaker 2Everything comes down to that basic choice. Everything. Everything comes down to that basic choice. Everything you basically get to enjoy now or later, at all times. Now maybe there's human C and human C takes 50 and enjoys now and gets Chinese food or whatever you love and 50 puts it in the investment account. Figure out whether you're human A, b or C and anywhere in between, and which one would you be fulfilled being? Because I think most people would not be fulfilled as C Emilia would Emilia would be fulfilled at C. Most people, I think, are temporarily fulfilled as A, but they always pay for it eventually. Why don't you think people would be fulfilled at C? Most people, I think, are temporarily fulfilled as A, but they always pay for it eventually.
Speaker 1Why don't you think people would be fulfilled at C?
Speaker 2That one resonates the most with me. C is the one where you invest all $100. Oh, I thought that was B. Oh, you're absolutely right, that's my bad. Yeah, okay, no, I think most people would be fulfilled with B. My bad, no, I think most people would be fulfilled with B.
Speaker 1My bad Emilia would be fulfilled with C, which is invest all 100.
Speaker 2No no C, sir.
Speaker 1I know I'm screwing it up A is you spend it all. B is you invest it all. C is 50-50. Yeah, bad, okay. So Emilia would be very fulfilled with B.
Speaker 2You want to know why that doesn't work for me? Because numbers-wise, very fulfilled with b. You want to know why that doesn't work for me? Because numbers wise it's zero, 50, 50, 100, c should be 100 I screwed it up.
Immediate gratification Vs. Long-term investment
Speaker 2You can't now okay, c is 50, 50. Okay. I think most people would be temporarily fulfilled with a and long term more fulfilled with C. Emilia would be fulfilled with B and I think I resonate with her more on this than anything. But what's your percentage? Everyone, I think this is going to land. I hope it will. Everyone think what percentage do you want to enjoy now and what percentage do you want to invest in your bigger, better, brighter future?
Speaker 2now it's not just money, time, effort, experience, it's, it's an, it's a metaphor. So for kev, what's your percentage? Let's you and me lead by example here I don't.
Speaker 1I mean, I don't know, it's definitely. It's changed so many times, I don't know what do you think it is now. It's changed so many times. I don't know what do you think. It is now Probably 80-20. 80 future, 20. Now.
Speaker 2Agreed. Yeah, I think mine is probably 95-5. Maybe 90-10. What's one hour out of 16? What's one divided by 16?
Speaker 1I'm not the guy man.
Speaker 2Hey, Alexa, what's one divided by 16?
Speaker 10.75.
Speaker 2One divided by 16 is 0.0625. It's close, so 6.25 percent, 6.25 percent.
Speaker 1So yeah, it's 95.5. Most likely little alexa shout out on the podcast. I don't know if alexa's ever been on the podcast. What's happening? We have three.
Speaker 2We have three hosts now yeah, absolutely, we've been doing a lot of Googling lately too.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Pretty cool. So you're 80-20. 80% future 20% now I think it's different.
Speaker 1I think it's different. I think it's different. It's changed over the last seven years. In the beginning it was like 100% now, 0% future. And then I adopted Alan's lifestyle for a while where it was like 95-5 and I was miserable. And then I think it's transitioned to hopefully a healthier healthier from the place of healthy for me but also healthy for my goals. That's awesome.
Speaker 2Can you take us through? I know we have a little bit of time here Can you take us through that? It was 100% immediate gratification, 0% long-term investment.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Now it's 80% long-term investment, 20% enjoy the now, and the interesting thing about this is your 20% gets bigger and bigger and bigger because of your 80 investment, so that that yeah, that's so hard to explain, agreed how did you get from 100 zero to 80, 20 the other way?
Speaker 1I went broke and then I realized that the 100 zero isn't serving me.
Speaker 2It's not sustainable.
Speaker 1It's definitely not sustainable. It feels really good in the moment. I would always have these regrets You've heard me say this several times on the podcast when I used to work in New Jersey. That's where we did a lot of our work. I lived in New Hampshire at the time. We worked in New Jersey, which is four to seven hours away depending on where you are, and we would go out to these bars. And it got to the point where I worked in New Jersey so much. We knew bartenders and we had certain places we would go and we had friends and I would buy 20 shots. I would say how many shots can you legally get me? How many can I buy? What is the most amount of shots I can buy? And I think one of the places was like 20. But we have to walk around with you. We can't just give you 20 shots.
Speaker 1And I was like oh, that's fine, you can walk around with me and we'll hand them out. I always regretted that the next day. I never woke up the next day pumped about that, Ever. I was like you, stupid bastard. You spent how much on shots. I mean, those are what $10 a pop.
Speaker 2Yeah, you spent $200 on shots last night. Yeah, and that's not including all the other drinks.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, and you probably gave the bartender or the waitress, whoever it was like $20 or $40 for helping you. You stupid bastard, why did you do that?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1But in the moment I feel like man. It was awesome.
Speaker 2In the man, it was awesome. In the moment it was awesome. Whenever I drank, in the moment, it was awesome. And then the next day, the hangover. That's a good metaphor for life. So everyone listening or watching this what is your percentage? We're not making any percentage wrong.
Speaker 1I am. I am making the percentage. That's wrong for you, wrong Agreed.
Speaker 2I would not be fulfilled without like. If it was 98.2, I wouldn't be fulfilled. I know I'm kind of doing that right now. If it was 50.50, I would not be fulfilled. I would feel like I wasn't maximizing my potential. I would feel lazy. So for everyone, think about what's the percentage that would Make you the most fulfilled. And if you say 100% immediate gratification, 0% long-term, I would say that's probably not true. No one, no one, wants immediate gratification 24-7-365. It's not sustainable.
Speaker 1Well, unless you haven't done it long enough to know it's not sustainable. Exactly, yeah, right, it's it's. If I gave you a million dollars, how fast would you spend it? I'd spend it immediately, okay. Well, let's put ourselves in the end of the, at the end after you spent all the million dollars, then what do you do? Well, I didn't think that far. Yeah, no, understandable, because I didn't. I didn't say that. I didn't say you had to live life after the million, but you do. You have to figure out what to do after the million.
Speaker 1You, in this analogy, do you think it's good? So, alan, anytime I travel, alan always asks what are the lessons, what did you learn? And I say I don't know. Man, I'm going through my own thing, I'm trying to figure that out. But there's a piece of me that likes traveling like that and having things be all over the place, because it takes me very out of my routine and then when I come back it usually takes a day or two. We're recording this on Friday. I'm glad I have Sunday coming up where I can just kind of see what is what. But there is a piece of me that likes my schedule being off the rails because it makes me far more attracted to my schedule being on the rails. You think it's good to go off the rails for a very constructive short amount of time?
Speaker 2Yeah, I think it gives perspective. When we took our trip to South Carolina, we drove through from Massachusetts to South Carolina and it was a week where we worked. But it was good to get out of our environment because you really appreciate it more. You appreciate home more when you travel. I think that's half the reason. Travel is even a good thing. You, you go, expand, you go learn, you you said the harbor was really nice you see new people, places, things and ideas and you expand your consciousness and then you appreciate home even more.
The role of venting and complaining in managing goal-related stress
Speaker 2If you don't appreciate home even more, that means you need to repot yourself and you're you probably outgrew your pot. It's the plant analogy of whatever pot you're in, smoke it. If you're in a little pot and you're a big tree, you can only grow so much in that little pot. So I had a client who lived in dubai and then they came back to finland and they had a really hard time going back because they went and expanded so much and so and now they're kind of doing a hybrid model and but it's really good to to get out of your environment and out of your routine, because how do you? I think that's when you come back and you re-evaluate your routine. That's when you read, but I also don't encourage people to just go off the rails. There's constructive ways to purposely take mini trips or adventures away from the norm to then come back and then redesign your new normal to something that's more fulfilling.
Speaker 1And sometimes when you do something you haven't done in a long period of time, so many of the circumstances are different. You figure out if you like it, the circumstances are different. You figure out if you like it the same or if you like it different. I there was a lot of a lot of stuff going on in the business when I was away and it was really good to prove to myself that even that I'm even though I'm not home and I'm traveling and I don't have my setup and I'm not doing my normal stuff I might have been more productive in some regards. Not the whole time, not overall, yeah, but there were days. There was a day where I moved so many needles and things are getting built for lack of better phrasing that it might not have happened. If I wasn't where I was, it definitely wouldn't have happened the way it happened. So that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 2What's your takeaway? The takeaway is if you feel like you resent your goals, sometimes that's normal, people just don't talk about it. But having huge goals is a huge responsibility, and sometimes it's just I tell Amelia this every now and then and I'm going to be vulnerable just sharing this. Sometimes I just need to bitch and moan a little, yeah, and she just lets me vent and I just. Sometimes it's like you know what I don't want to, and then I'm good Five minutes later I'm good, let's rock, let's rock and roll. So sometimes I just need a little bit of time to complain.
Speaker 1Well, another good thing to do too again, this has worked for me in the past is sometimes I'll try to sell myself on the opposite idea. So let's say I don't want to go do something that I know I'll try to sell myself on the opposite idea. So let's say I don't want to go do something that I know I'll be grateful I did. I'll try to sell, I'll play devil's advocate and give myself like all right, these are the reasons you shouldn't do it. And let's just try to paint some positive potential here, like what are the reasons you should do it? Sometimes I do that and it works quite nicely. Nice, I'll throw that in there. If it was, I guess, if it was that simple. You just do that every time, so maybe it's not valuable at all, but sometimes it works. So even if it works one out of ten times, that's can you give us an example?
Speaker 1oh man, I do it a lot when I'm thinking about ordering food. Yeah, there you go when I'm when I'm thinking about ordering food, but it's the opposite. It it's I really really want to order food. And then I try to figure out like well, do you really want to drive to Taco Bell? Are you really going to pay $10 for them to deliver it? They always make it wrong. If you drive to this Taco Bell, you've got to wait in line for 15 minutes.
Speaker 2You're in your pajamas, so you're going to have to change.
Speaker 1Boom, boom boom, it sounds sexy. High level though.
Speaker 2We'll do it. I think it is.
Speaker 1I love it, yeah, and I'll wear my suit and my suspenders for that one Of course Pocket square, obviously Cool, cool All right, we're going to get out of here.
Speaker 1Alan has a call, it's Friday and I ain't got no job and I ain't got shit to do. If you are focused on getting to the next level little by little, by little by little, and you want some extra accountability, make sure you are subscribed on whatever podcast platform you are listening on or on YouTube. If you are watching us there and, alan, you're going to 35 clients. Is that your goal?
Speaker 2Yeah, 35 in 2024. I have six spots left. If you want to achieve your goals this year into next year, that's what I'm going to help you with. I'm going to help you achieve your goals and stay accountable. That's ultimately what it comes down to. Yes, in alignment with who you are. Yes, fulfillment. Yes, you're going to learn a lot, but ultimately, my job is to keep you accountable towards your goals.
Speaker 1As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.
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