#1811 - Questions Are The Answer

Have you ever wondered why the questions you ask yourself matter so much? In this episode, Kevin and Alan reveal how the right questions can unlock your potential and guide you to better decisions. They share personal stories and practical tips to help you ask the questions that lead to growth. If you’ve ever felt stuck or unsure, this conversation might offer the clarity you need.

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Show notes:
(2:21) Kevin’s Story - A 16-year-old's insightful question on self-awareness
(4:27) Avoiding Analysis Paralysis - Strategies to prevent overthinking
(6:25) The BIRL System - A method to break negative cycles and build self-belief
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(17:22) Identity and Results - How identity affects outcomes
(22:39) Recommended Self-

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Speaker 1 0:00

because I just don't want to say do people I don't want to come off and sound like do people actually know the answers? We can use me as an example. You know how some people say the answer's inside you. Sometimes I think that's bumper sticker, but I think also sometimes it's true.

Speaker 2 0:16

And so, ultimately, the questions that you ask yourself determine how you view yourself, and they determine how you view the world and they determine how you view other people, and that determines what decisions you make, and the decisions you make produce outcomes, and then those outcomes give you feedback to reflect on.

Speaker 1 0:33

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Speaker 2 0:48

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Speaker 1 0:54

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Speaker 2 1:10

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Speaker 1 1:16

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation, welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1,811, I have to adjust that on the fly questions are the answer. So I was just telling Alan, I went on a podcast today with a 16-year-old gentleman who was just super into self-improvement and very self-aware and just a very intelligent individual, and at the end I said I just got outwitted, outclassed, outshined by a 16-year-old. I don't think I really did. It was a very, very good conversation. But one of the questions he asked was how did you improve your self-awareness? And I said I ask questions. How do you become aware about anything? You ask questions, you get answers and then you test the answers and then you ask questions based on those answers and that's kind of, I think, from my perspective, the best way to do it.

Speaker 1 2:21

And he said do you ever think it's dangerous for somebody who already questions themselves to ask more questions? And I said interesting, and this was my, this was my take. I think you can ask yourself the wrong questions. So if let's say, let's say, for this example, you're somebody who overthinks and you question every decision you've ever made, you question everything that you do and you ruminate on everything. I said, yeah, maybe, rather than asking your asking yourself those questions and questioning yourself, maybe if you asked yourself the question of where does this behavior come from? And then you look back to your childhood, you realize that your parents or caregivers always said are you sure? Are you sure, are you sure? Did you double check? Did you triple check? Did you quadruple check? Maybe that's where it comes from and maybe that's how it's showing up. But I really think, now more than ever, I for most of my life, undervalued the power of questions and I thought it was.

Speaker 1 3:26

I just enjoyed his question, that frame of what. If somebody already questions everything that they do, maybe we have to question where did that behavior come from in the first place? Maybe that is the new. I think of it almost like a. It's going to be a dumb analogy. I've been, I've been missing a lot of my analogies lately. When you take, you take shots, you take chances. You're going to miss them.

Speaker 1 3:50

I don't even know if I have one, it's kind of like a root system for a tree, where, nah, I don't have one. Usually, if I just say a tree or a root system, you can kind of make something up as you go. I got it you got it.

Speaker 2 4:04

What are your thoughts on all that Earlier today? So remember the Four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin, the book we used to talk about. Of course I talk about it all the time.

Speaker 1 4:11

One of my favorite books Were you back. One of them was the Questioner.

Speaker 2 4:27

We have the Obliger, the Upholder, the Rebel questioner. This made me think of that. Okay, when he says what if someone already questions everything? I think what this person was referring to is if someone already questions everything, maybe what they need to do is not get stuck in analysis paralysis. I remember I had a mentor and essentially it was my boss at one of the companies that I worked for. It was a company called C cognax. His name was brian my man brian.

Speaker 2 4:48

I actually liked brian a lot and he said don't mind f it. He actually said the f word. Yeah, we were. I was driving him to get his car or something. He he lost the tire or something, I don't know, and I was driving. He said he made this complex system we were going to do to sell more automation equipment. He said, whatever you do, don't mind F it. And what he meant is just take action, don't overcomplicate it, just take action. So I created this loop earlier and I didn't know we were going to do this episode. This is perfect and I, literally I was doing my morning routine listening to Atomic Habits again James Clear's book, atomic Habits world-class, world-class. I hope one day I read a book as good as that.

Speaker 1 5:38

I hope that for you as well.

The BIRL System - A method to break negative cycles and build self-belief

Speaker 2 5:40

Thank you, brother. So this little loop came up because he was talking about the habit loop and I was thinking about the doom loop and the success loop. I've been talking a lot about it lately. Every person who feels stuck, stagnant and struggle bus, they're in some form of a doom loop. And one good example would be I'm Kevin, I don't believe in myself, so I don't take action. Therefore, I don't get results, which makes me believe in myself even less. Okay, that's just one example of a doom loop. Okay, this is the loop that I think is going to help everyone. Number one is believe in yourself, believe. I just put believe so. Number one believe. Number two implement. Number three reflect. Number four learn, and then you go back to believe. You're supposed you go back to believe.

Speaker 1 6:25

The old BIRL system You're supposed to go back the old. Birl system B-I-R-L. Yeah, BIRL.

Speaker 2 6:31

Yeah, believe, implement, reflect, learn. Now here's the thing Does the learning bring you back to belief? Because one of the trainings that you and I got laughed out of the building for lack of better phrasing. What we learned was that we did a terrible job. That didn't get me to question my belief in my ability to get better, and you said that that's weird.

Speaker 2 6:59

So I think what happens is we believe in something, we implement something, we reflect on something with questions. The point of this episode questions. Did we do a good job? What went well? What went poorly? What was my most important win? What was my most important improvement? That's what masterminding is. Ultimately, it's what this podcast is about asking and answering questions. And then you learn hopefully, people learn on this show and when you learn? What if you learn something about yourself that's not good? What if you learn? Wow, I suck at that. What if you learn something that's disempowering? Do you go back to belief and then try again, or do you get stuck? And I think a lot of people get stuck? So that's what came up for me when you were talking despite your root system.

Speaker 1 7:44

Nonsense? Yeah, no, it was nonsense. Sometimes you take a shot, you miss. It happens. It's going to happen to everyone. I disassociated during that speech, so honestly, that speech did not affect me that much in a weird way, I completely disassociated and I just let you get run over, because I knew it was going to happen.

Speaker 1 8:11

Alan was in charge of the training because alan's the trainer and then I stood up there, thought next to him well, you are, it's, we didn't know, we learned, we learned and. But there was like a piece of me that was. I was just like the accessory, I was supplemental to to it, so I didn't feel as bad.

Speaker 1 8:24

You've been saying that word so much. I know you love it, supplemental. Well, it's your paradoxical. What is it? It's a paradoxical something you say. You say a lot of words. I say paradox a lot. There's another one you've been using too, though I don't remember you ever. I don't remember you ever, I don't know.

Speaker 1 8:45

Do you think, if you stay, this is what I was trying to get to, but I don't know how to. If you ask yourself a question, there's a root under that and there's a root under that. There's a root under that. How do you know when it's time to jump from one to the other? Because I used to have times and again this is going to sound maybe like the. This might be the most arrogant sounding thing I ever said of all time, but I promise, sit with me, it's not. There used to be a point where my brain would say no more, nope, we can't go any deeper, and then I'd sit with it and say that's that. That's not true. You have to. I have to consciously sit here and actually want to Just like I can't do another rep. Yes, you can. Eventually you get to the place where you can. Yes, but it's usually not when you first feel like you can't do another one.

Speaker 1 9:35

Yeah that's called a protector, or I can't take another step. Usually you can. Eventually, yes, you will get to a place where you cannot take another step, but it's not going to be the first time. You think that, most likely, so I know. For me that was one of the experiences was I would ask myself why, and then I would get an answer. It's like, oh, why, I don't know. No, no, let's sit with it. Let's sit with it, because there's probably an answer there. So, yeah, the question remains.

Speaker 2 10:00

The problem is is that whenever you do the why thing and I do this in coaching all the time Okay, I want to achieve this goal, okay, why? Because if I achieve this goal, then that means blank. And if if that, then that means blank. And then we go deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper and you get to the root of what's going on. Usually the route for everybody. When you get to the floor, the bottom it's usually some form of I don't believe in myself, I'm not good enough, is one of them. I'm not a good person is one of them. Another one is I'm unwelcome or unwanted. Those are kind of the core wounds we've talked about in the past, but most people don't want to go and look at that. One of the reasons why your quarter life crisis, suicidal ideation, your mid-20s and my car accident.

Speaker 2 10:49

I have this framework I've talked about before where the three circles you've got the three circles of the ego. The outer circle is who you want others to believe you are. The next circle in is who you want to believe you are and then the bottom is who you really are. Aka, you have who you want others to believe you are. Then you have who you want to believe who you want others to believe you are, then you have who you want to believe you are intellectually. Then you have, unconsciously and subconsciously, who you actually are. I know some people who believe in themselves a ton but think they don't intellectually. And then I know some people who think they believe in themselves a ton but deep down they don't.

Speaker 2 11:22

And I think humility is all three circles being the same, and my car accident, your suicidal ideation, brought all three circles close to the same, and then you have to maintain that. It's like, if you get an opportunity, so this training that I might get, if I do get it and I do it, is that going to inflate my ego? Am I gonna? Am I gonna think more or less of myself? How do you, how do I stay objective with my own value, that kind of thing. And so, ultimately, the questions that you ask yourself determine how you view yourself and they determine how you view the world and you. They determine how you view other people, and that determines what decisions you make, and the decisions you make produce outcomes and then those outcomes give you feedback to reflect on. It's this constant. Emilia said something recently that I thought was hilarious and she said we got to keep people out of the Lulu land, meaning we coach couples and we are doing an episode on delusion tomorrow, so don't give away the plot.

Speaker 2 12:33

Okay, okay. Delululand is distortion. It's everyone gets delusional, everyone. Sometimes you have a big win. You start thinking this is the new level for you and you get cocky. I've been there. And then you get smacked down. I was delusional about that speech, that training going well, and then I got feedback and what I thought would happen versus what happened were huge distortion. That's why taking action is the best way to stay humble and the best way to stay humble and the best way to stay objective because you got delusional thinking you were still great at baseball when you haven't played a decade.

Speaker 1 13:18

You just need the feedback and you need the questions because we can intellectualize son decades. You were right the first time decades, decades.

Speaker 2 13:26

So almost decades we will all become delusional to the extent that we are not taking action and getting feedback I'm gonna need you to answer the freaking question stop deflecting that's the problem, say now, we don't even know where this all came from. No, we do you ask me a question about questions, yeah, yeah. So this is how do you?

Speaker 1 13:49

know when to stop going deeper? Yeah, but now that question. I don't want to. I don't even want to talk about the question anymore. I have a different question. Okay, you ready? I think so. Okay, cool, I'm in a weird mood because all most of the shows I've been on have been like super hyper conscious nice, so Nice. So that's why I'm in a very weird. I just want to talk about weird shit. So, please, please, I apologize, but this is. This is like the jam for me. Oh, apologize, this is who we are, this is good.

Speaker 1 14:15

I will not apologize for who I am. That's right, unless I'm a terrible person, and then I will apologize. Terrible person? Uh, what was the question I was gonna ask you? Oh, do you think, people, when you and I started spending more time together, you were mentoring me and coaching me like you are today, and maybe a less. You had less permission to do it, but you were doing it because we didn't know.

Speaker 1 14:46

Right now, you way easier now, yeah, yeah, now it's way easier. Do you think I knew I had more answers about myself than I actually did? And would you say? Because I just don't want to say do people? I don't want to come off and sound like do people actually know the answers? I don't. We can use me as an example. You know, some people say the answer is inside you. Yeah, sometimes I think that's bumper sticker, but I think also sometimes it's it's true. What is the percentage? How many times did you just help me uncover something that I already knew, and how many times did you teach me something that I didn't know yet? Eventually I'll get to the question if you let me, if you let me something that I didn't know yet. Eventually I'll get to the question if you let me ramble long enough.

Speaker 2 15:30

All right, I have to come with a simple framework.

Speaker 1 15:33

I have to I have to Give us a real answer.

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Speaker 2 15:36

Hey, I got you the center. The center, it's a circle, is your identity, then it's process, then it's outcomes. All right, real talk. You would come to me, I'm gonna answer the question. I promise you would come to me and you'd say hey, man, I want to make more money yeah, yeah, I need to make some money, many times yeah and I would say, okay, awesome, and that's an outcome. That's a result, that's an external of kevin, but the reason you're not making any money is because of your identity next level nation.

Speaker 1 16:08

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Speaker 2 16:51

So in my coaching, the outer circle is results. It's outcomes, and people come to me because they want an outcome. They want to achieve something externally. What they don't realize usually and I'm yeah what they don't realize usually and I'm yeah, what they don't realize usually is there's a process that needs to happen, a system, so so an outcome is 10 pounds in, lose 10 pounds. A process is exercise daily and eat 2000 calories a day and then drop that to 1900 and then 1800 and then 1700s over 10 weeks.

Speaker 2 17:22

The the identity is I'm an athlete, I'm a bodybuilder. I was always trying to get to your identity. I still am. I'm miyagi-ing your parts and your protectors and your ego to to get yourself to see yourself more accurately. And even when we did an episode a while back, a while back last week, about the achiever thing, I said you want to achieve these results but you don't identify as an achiever. Do you understand the downside of that? And you're like well, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 17:54

But ultimately, the question that everyone should be asking themselves if they want to coach themselves is what am I avoiding about myself? So you were avoiding certain things about your past. You were avoiding certain things about that you didn't want to own, because maybe you were afraid that if you owned them Then you would have to go fail, and you were afraid to be seen as a failure for me. I was avoiding my biggest one. This is the hardest one to to share, but I have to have courage, so I'm just going to share it.

Speaker 2 18:25

I was avoiding the fact that I'm a genius and I and I read a book called the hidden habits of genius that I always knew. I always knew kev, I just didn't want to face it. Yeah, because I think, deep down, I always wanted to belong and I wanted to be relatable and I knew I wasn't. So I spent my life trying to be more like other people so that I would fit in and be safe and belong and be loved. And when I read that book, it opened with geniuses have no idea they're geniuses, they're too busy doing genius shit and it takes a non-genius to study geniuses for 30 years at yale to write a book about the character traits of geniuses.

Speaker 2 19:11

And when I read that book it was like oh my god, there's not a lick of this book. That doesn't perfectly describe who I am when no one's watching. And so the answer to your question is yes, you knew deep down you're avoiding it and you don't want to face it. And most people don't want to face one of two things they don't want to face either number one their inadequacies, and ironically, if they face them, they actually would overcome them. Or number two they don't want to face how great they are Because that's scary. Both are scary. If you're super great statistically, you won't fit in anywhere, and you know it and you're afraid to face it. If you're not that great, you also know it and you need to face it and then start working hard to be coachable to get great.

Speaker 1 19:58

Now let's also talk about the amazing ways that I've changed your life. Go ahead, I'm just kidding. You have, though no, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I have plenty.

Speaker 1 20:06

No, I appreciate it. Last thing, because we have to go, my bottleneck has always been awareness. I don't know. It's very hard for me. I can't do better until I know better. And again, that's a blanket statement, but that's kind of been our experiences. I just don't know, and when I know, I just do it. Usually. This exercise works well Awesome, I'll do that exercise. This app works well Awesome, I'll do that. This is a thing about you that you don't know yet. Awesome, I'll work on that. What is yours? My weakness was lack of awareness.

Speaker 1 20:45

Mine was lack of social courage.

Speaker 2 20:47

You have no idea how scary it was for me to just share the genius thing.

Speaker 1 20:49

I can only imagine that was 10 out of 10. I can only imagine If anybody's villainizing you, play nice and don't be a dingo.

Speaker 2 20:55

Thank you, you're welcome. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 20:56

I can't. I don't know who it is that social courage was mine, my inability to be myself in a social situation.

Speaker 2 21:02

What?

Speaker 1 21:02

were the questions that helped you understand and then rectify that.

Speaker 2 21:09

Who am I really? Why am I so afraid to be myself? Why do I struggle to be myself around other people? Why don't I feel like any advice resonates with me Almost ever? Why am I constantly dancing around people's insecurity, like when I'm on a podcast? I'm not kidding, I'm actually scared to be so much better than them at this. It's like scary for me to be that much better, because the truth is, I don't want you to feel bad about yourself. Just because I'm really good at podcasting doesn't mean you're bad. It might mean you're bad, but it's very scary for me to. Whenever I'm interviewed by an insecure podcaster, it's very scary for me to. Whenever, whenever I'm interviewed by an insecure podcaster, it's very scary for me to do a really good job because I'm just. I don't want you to feel bad. If me being great makes you feel bad about yourself, I don't want to be great, and that's the truth that's deep, that's super, and unfortunately, you can't inspire, and that's when I learned you can't inspire someone unless you're great, and you can't inspire, and that's when, I

Recommended Self-Questions - Practical questions to improve self-awareness

Speaker 2 22:18

learned you can't inspire someone unless you're great, and you can't inspire anyone without triggering envy too. That's another thing that's fascinating, and so I realized that I want to help people, but I can't help people unless I trigger envy. And I can't trigger envy unless I shine. And I can't shine if I'm a coward. And so, for me, I was a social coward. So for you, what questions did you? Let's not make this about me. You know what I mean. This is about you.

Speaker 1 22:39

Well, let's do this.

Speaker 2 22:40

What questions do we recommend the listeners ask themselves?

Speaker 1 22:46

I'm just teasing. Again, I'm in a very strange mood. It's good, this is great Big fan. Very strange mood.

Speaker 2 22:48

Don't feel bad. I'm 10 out of 10 happy about this. This is great.

Speaker 1 22:53

I? I would suggest the ones that why? Has always helped me. One of my favorite questions is is this a them problem or a me problem? One of my favorite questions of all time Love it, absolutely love it Any time. I don't know. I don't have a good example. So it's always hard to talk about stuff when you don't have any example and nobody will understand what I'm saying. Really, man, always hard to talk about stuff when you don't have any example and nobody will understand what I'm saying. Really, man, anytime I want something to happen and then the opportunity for that thing to happen happens, but it's not as aligned as I wanted it to be and then I don't want to do it anymore. Again, I know that's like a very specific thing but I'll ask no, not really.

Speaker 2 23:44

You got one, you got it.

Speaker 1 23:47

You know how I said I was excited that Taryn was going to be away for a little bit because I wanted the downtime when she left. I didn't yeah.

Speaker 1 23:56

So I was like why did I think I did Like, well, maybe I feel like I need more space around the house occasionally, or maybe I need, maybe I need like more me nights that I'm just not taking. It's like does it have to be so drastic when she's gone for a week Because the first night was cool, it's like cool, nice, but then after that it's just I don't like it anymore. And I think there's a lot of things like that, so that when you witness, when you have the opportunity to witness, your own expectations and your own behavior based on an opportunity, and then when you get the opportunity, your expectations, behavior, change completely. There's something in that. I just don't. I don't know what it is, but there's.

Speaker 2 24:43

there's something in that so the question would be neuroscience the neuroscience is there's an anticipatory circuit and then there's a reward. So you get get a hit. The metaphor is Christmas morning coming up is more exciting than Christmas morning Never, Kev. I knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to say that Sometimes the anticipation of seeing a movie is better than the movie. I was so excited to see Twisters, but that's unknown.

Speaker 1 25:14

Yeah, that's unknown Christmas morning. I know what's up dog I'm gonna wake up, I'm gonna put my. I'm gonna put my pajamas on, I'm gonna have myself a cup of coffee and I'm gonna sit in front of the tree for three hours before anybody gets up. I love christmas morning I know you do.

Speaker 2 25:26

The point I'm making is that you get dopamine and positive brain chemicals in anticipation of christmas and during christ, assuming you actually enjoy it. But the point that I'm making is that sometimes, sometimes, the anticipation is better than the actual thing. That is fair.

Speaker 1 25:44

That is fair, but you're wrong about Christmas. Okay, sounds good. Don't ever put some respect on Christmas.

Speaker 2 25:52

Yeah, what would your question?

Speaker 2 25:53

be, Number one Number one most important question who is I? No, I'll give you the ones I ask my clients all the time when were you the most fulfilled? Super important, yeah, what do you know you should be doing? That you're not doing, that you know you really want to do, and that's a habit question. Every time I ask that with clients, they're like, yeah, let's put it on there, let's put it on the habit tracker, put it on there. What might you regret not doing? What might you regret doing? That's a big one. Who do you love?

Speaker 1 26:36

No, that's for for sure those are all good ones, though. Yeah, those are good ones. One of my favorite questions of all time again from parks and recreation the finest self-improvement programming on television. If the world was ending tonight, who would you want to spend tonight with?

Speaker 2 26:52

yeah, it's one of the best questions of all time especially well.

Speaker 1 26:57

Thank you so much. Yeah, I'd give you a call I'm kidding you wouldn't give me a call. No, I would. I would, you wouldn't, you'd text me hey, man see you on the other side, brother I wonder if they have podcasts where we're going you dark jokes. I feel like that's a really good question for somebody. Obviously, right, you have your person, I'm married.

Speaker 1 27:19

It would be taryn, it would be yeah, of course, but if you're in between, or there's someone that you care about deeply that you have not yet had the courage to express that to.

Speaker 2 27:29

Oh, that question is the one yeah, there's so many, I could do a podcast about questions. My, I mean forever, it's forever. Where, what? What is my self-esteem tied to? That's another good one, here's a better one. What is my self-esteem really tied to that? I wish it wasn't, but it totally is that's fire. So for you, kev the bank account, I mean mean, come on right, I don't wish it wasn't though. Yeah, I know, but you used to probably you had shame talking about it or whatever.

Speaker 1 28:05

I thought it meant I couldn't be successful, because everybody always says well, you're not supposed to care about how much money you have in the bank. I do, and I want it. You have to.

Speaker 2 28:15

Ironically, you totally have to Let me it can't. It shouldn't be number one. It can be, can be In business. It can't be number one or it shouldn't be number one. It can be in your case because you find a way to sneak in business, but it definitely should not be number seven.

Speaker 1 28:30

Found a way to sneak in business.

Speaker 2 28:32

Yeah, I told Alan.

Speaker 1 28:33

I said you got to take it easy on the business episodes.

Speaker 2 28:35

You have your own podcast. I'm a business coach. You have your own podcast. What are you going to do?

Speaker 1 28:39

Yeah, all right, we got to hop because we're going to do two more episodes during our recording session that we have right now.

Speaker 2 28:46

And we're on limit time. Here's the last thing that you should be asking yourself more. See, that's a meta question. It's a question about very unhelpful question.

Speaker 1 28:59

Yeah, it's very unhelpful, but I do appreciate where you're trying to go with that. You know it all right. Next, on the nation, we have a fitness accountability group. So if one of the questions you are asking yourself is how do I stay more consistent in fitness, how do I get my goals in fitness? And again, they don't have to be, it doesn't have to be exercise every day, it doesn't have to be lose 10 pounds in 10 weeks. It doesn't have to be any of that. Maybe it's just working on tracking your macros or getting on the scale or whatever it is. We have a WhatsApp group, totally free, totally open to anybody that wants to join. That's all about fitness accountability. We will have the link below.

Speaker 1 29:33

And Alan is still taking on clients. Alan, I think at this point, has 30 wonderful heart-driven humans that he's working one-on-one with. I am a very good shining example of what it's like to work with Alan as a coaching client, as I have been coached from him for the last seven years, never had to pay a dime, which is good, but I have definitely lost years off my life, which is not necessarily ideal, but I do think I'm better off for it. Obviously just kidding, but yeah, I think it'd be a really, really valuable use of anybody's time out there.

Speaker 2 30:05

This is good. This is the real Kev right here. I love it. Not that any other episodes weren't the real Kev, but this is my favorite version. This is my favorite version, yeah.

Speaker 1 30:12

I felt like 1811, I could finally be me. So you know what?

Speaker 2 30:14

I think, no, I'm just in a really yeah, I'm in a really weird, strange mood.

Speaker 1 30:21

That's all it is, which we'll see. Right, we're about to do another episode. Will I be in the same weird, strange mood? I don't. I assume so, but we'll find out also yeah, group coaching yeah, we are starting. I don't know the date, but group 16 let me take a gander is coming up.

Speaker 2 30:36

We just got a message from a past group member saying hey, what's the link? So we're taking people 10 people 90 days, mario Kart booster for your life, habit tracking, accountability, assistant coach six sessions with Kevin and myself dialed in those. We've worked on for 15 groups now, so they're really, really dialed in and then you have connection calls in between. So please, we're really taking members now for group 16.

Speaker 2 31:03

We're trying to be proactive. October 8th is when it starts. It's a Tuesday from 5 to 6 pm Eastern Standard Time, and if you can't make the sessions live, we also provide them in a private Google Drive folder for group members only. If you miss a session, you will still get the recording.

Speaker 1 31:19

Boom, as always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you. And at NLU we do not have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow. Please reach out. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Speaker 2 31:37

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Speaker 1 31:46

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.