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#1840 - A Common Mistake When It Comes To Problem Solving

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Do you feel stuck in a problem that just won’t go away? In this episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros break down common problem-solving mistakes and offer tips to help you shift from feeling frustrated to taking positive action. They focus on building self-belief, staying resourceful, and handling what you can control to find better solutions. With insights from the movie “The Edge,” they also explore how your energy levels can affect problem-solving, giving you practical advice to tackle life’s challenges with a can-do attitude.

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Show notes:
(2:17) Problem Vs. Solution-focused thinking
(3:33) Film reference on survival and thinking under challenging situations
(6:32) Discussing time, effort, and resource management
(9:12) Realizations about adulthood and problem-solving
(15:43) Meet like-minded people and jumpstart your journey to achieving your dreams while optimizing your life. Join Next Level Group Coaching.
(18:35) Mindset: Staying positive and taking action
(23:49) Different energy levels and how they affect productivity
(26:03) Finding someone to motivate you when energy is low
(29:33) Outro

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Speaker 1

I'm better when things are going really well , because then I can operate more naturally . Again , this is kind of woo-woo , but , like when we did the episode on energy , I am a lower energy , so that means when I'm already a lower energy than you are , so when things are going wrong , it's even more brutal .

Speaker 2

Everything's going to be alright . You just got to get back into action . Everything's going to be alright . You got this . That's the record playing in the back of my head . I don't know what your record is , but mine is . You got this . You can do it , we can do this . We got this . It's not going to be easy , but we're going to find a way to win . That is my mindset .

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Speaker 1

Welcome to Next Level University , next Level Nation . Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University , where we help you level up your life , your love , your health and your wealth . Today , for episode number 1,840 , a common mistake when it comes to problem solving I had a breakthrough one time and I felt like it was the most profound thing ever , and then I came on here and we did an episode on it . This was a while ago I don't know how long ago it was , but it was . Essentially , are you problem-focused or are you solution-focused , and I am somebody who , unfortunately , naturally , was problem-focused . When I had a problem , I would focus on the problem , not the solution

Problem Vs. Solution-focused thinking

Speaker 1

Sounds productive .

Speaker 1

It was not very productive at all and I've worked diligently on trying to shift that and pivot that . And I've worked diligently on trying to shift that and pivot that . But I would get caught in the mindset of well , I can't do that , I can't do that , I can't do that , well , I'm not going to be able to do this , I can't do this . Instead of what can I do and again , I know that sounds overly simplistic , bumper sticker , self-improvement , but I think that is one of the fundamentals of progress is when you okay , you're driving down the highway , you get a flat tire pull over to the side of the road , a conversation or a thought process in your head has to start .

Speaker 1

I can't , maybe I can't drive to the nearest gas station . Maybe I don't know how to change a tire . What can I do ? Well , I've been station . Maybe I don't know how to change a tire . What can I do ? Well , I've been paying AAA so I could call AAA . I could call my mom , I could call my dad , I could call my partner , I could call my sister , I could call my brother . In that situation , you're not just going to sit there and say , well , I can't change my tire , let's wait here to die , but you're going to say , okay , well , what can I do ? I think that's a silly but accurate example of something that would be more beneficial for all of us when it comes to problem solving . 101 .

Film reference on survival and thinking under challenging situations

Speaker 2

So , as the long-term listeners know , I love film , so I have a reference to a film that Kevin probably has not seen .

Speaker 1

Here we go .

Speaker 2

Tends to happen a lot . On the Next Level University podcast there's a film called the Edge . Have you seen it , Kevin ?

Speaker 1

I believe the Edge , is Tom Cruise in it ? No ?

Speaker 2

No , you're thinking Edge of Tomorrow it is the Edge of something but no , it is .

Speaker 1

I haven't seen either of them , but I know Tom Cruise is in one of them .

Speaker 2

Thank you for that anecdote of usefulness .

Speaker 1

Wait , is Sylvester Stallone in it ? No , that's over the edge . There's a lot of edge movies .

Speaker 2

All right , so I'm going to tell the story now , Please , please . So there's a movie called the Edge and Anthony Hopkins is in it , and I honestly don't know the other actors . Hold on , hold on . I do know one of them . Alec baldwin is in it . Alec baldwin and anthony hopkins okay , they're in alaska and they're flying one of those little planes that , kev , you'd never fly in ever never , one that a goose could take it out .

Speaker 2

Basically okay . So spoiler alert . By the way , if you've never seen the film , it's a great . I enjoyed it . A lot of great nature , alaska's beautiful . Okay , they hit geese and the plane goes down into a lake . Anthony hopkins character is known as the super intelligent , older gentleman , billionaire , who loves books and is an intellectual , and he goes to the other characters when they're building a fire and one of the characters is freaking out . As understandable , they're in the middle of Alaska , probably going to die , freaking out . And Anthony Hopkins' character says why do people die in the woods ? And Alec Baldwin's character says I don't know , charles , why , kind of rolling his eyes because he's always A little sassy of him .

Speaker 2

Yeah he was ? He was Charles . Why do people die in the woods ? Just tell me already , right ? He says they die of shame . He said they die of shame , charles . He said , yeah , what I could have done , what I should have done , how did I get myself in this position ? I wish , I wish , I wish . Instead of doing the one thing that could have saved him and Alec's character goes okay , what's the one thing that could have saved him ? He said goes okay , what's the one thing that could have saved him ? He said they think , and he proceeds to take a paper clip , rub it on a belt buckle and then rub it on no , put it on a belt buckle , put it in the water and on a leaf and rub it on silk or something like that that magnetizes it as a compass , and then they know which way to go . And so , anyways , I think that's a really cool little anecdote that shares .

Discussing time, effort, and resource management

Speaker 2

You have time , effort and money in this life , and where you put your time and effort is going to determine your success or failure in whatever endeavors are meaningful to you . If you're putting time and effort into complaining , you and I just talked , and I talked to you about how I want you time and effort into complaining . You and I just talked , and I talked to you about how I want you to share your frustrations more . I don't want you to share your frustrations because I like to complain and moan and groan . I want you to share your frustrations because I want to transform those frustrations into transformation . Those frustrations into transformation .

Speaker 2

Frustration is an emotion that comes as a byproduct of not meeting a standard , and if there's something that's frustrating you , kev , there's a way to improve it . Spend a small percentage on the problem , a large percentage on the solution . Don't focus on what you can't do . Focus on what you can do . And every time I mean life is nothing more or less than a series of problems . Honestly , I mean problems are coming at us all the time . Oh , I got a sore throat Interesting . Okay , what can I do ? All right , let's get the care package . Let's go to Walmart . Okay , let's get NyQuil and DayQuil . Let's figure out what works , what doesn't work .

Speaker 2

One of our team members , ron , shout out to Ron . She suggested something called Benadine that I can gargle with . That helps sore throats . Boom , boom , boom resourcefulness . Life is going to throw a ton of problems your way . It's going to be problem after problem after problem . I know it's depressing , but it's the truth . How quickly you go from problem to solution , how quickly you go to what can I do ? What can we do about this is a game changer and honestly , I do think people in this metaphor die of shame , where they get all poor me and and how did I get myself into this ? And I should have done x , y or z , and I do think there's value in feeling that pain , but then how quickly can you take that pain and turn it into positive action ? I mean , that's a game changer .

Speaker 1

I think a big piece of it is self-belief , because you have to believe you're capable of doing it . You have to believe that you're capable of saying , okay , well , this is where I am . These are the things that I can do to get myself out of this , and the understanding that most likely maybe not most likely you can't rely on somebody else coming and doing it for you , and I know that's a heavy realization . I mean , you can ask for help . Of course , I'm a huge proponent of that . Please ask for help , but it's going to be a rare occurrence where somebody just comes and fixes all of your problems for you .

Speaker 2

No , it's not .

Realizations about adulthood and problem-solving

Speaker 1

Especially as you get older 35 years of age now I'm not 18 anymore it's different . There's nobody . The problems have to get solved and there's nobody else to solve them , and our household is Taryn and I , so we're going to solve those problems together or they're not going to get solved .

Speaker 1

That's , that's the really the or you call a mechanic , or you call a plumber , or you call right most businesses are people helping people solve problems it would , then that's so if you make that decision , that's you , that's your way of solving the problem yeah , but that still requires you , requires you to , but it still requires you to pick up the phone , you to Google it , you to research . Yeah , it's hard . Being an adult is hard .

Speaker 2

It's challenging work , I miss the old days , less responsibility was easier .

Speaker 1

It was different Way , different . I remember I used to want to do the dishes . I was like Mom , mima , let me try , let me do the dishes . And they're like why do you want to do the dishes ? And I was like , I don't know , I want to do them . Then later in life , when I was in my probably my early 30s , I remember I texted Mima and I said , hey , thank you for doing the dishes for like the entire length of my childhood , because now it's a giant and we didn't have a dishwasher . So she used to do the dishes by hand every single day . There was never a dirty dish in the sink ever . Ever Shout out to Mima for that . Alright , what percentage question for you ? What percentage ? So we have a hundred percent time , effort , energy , focus , whatever the resources that you have as well are put into the problem versus the solution . What's the percentage ?

Speaker 2

I would say the a percentage . I don't think any are put into the problem itself , I would say 1% . I'm definitely not perfect in this . I would say , eh , I'm going to be playful . If anyone has kids in the room earmuffs , I would say I bitch and moan for a good 3% .

Speaker 1

And that's just like venting about it . Yeah .

Speaker 2

Like this sucks , this sucks , and I just need to bitch about it for a second . Okay , and then I would say the next 20 , let's say , would be identifying the root cause of the problem . Do I know why this happened ? So ? Okay , in the edge . Oh , we probably should not have forgotten our cell phones . We probably should have told someone where we were going . We probably should have not run into , we probably should have looked out for geese better , or whatever . So identify the cause . What caused this ? This was reckless . I made a poor choice . I shouldn't have done this , okay . But if you stay there too long now , you're going to get demoralized and do nothing . So why did this happen ? So the first 3% is bitch and moan . The next 20% is why did this happen ?

Speaker 2

Okay , I'm exhausted . I've been spread too thin . I'm not getting great sleep . I'm waking up in the middle of the night . I'm working 80 hour weeks . That's why I got a sore throat .

Speaker 2

Okay , what am I going to do about it ? Okay , not only am I going to get Benadine and I have right here , I have emergency vitamin C . I've been doing a lot of vitamin C and NyQuil DayQuil , whatever . Whatever you guys want to do of vitamin C and NyQuil , dayquil , whatever , whatever you guys want to do . But I'm also going to solve the issue on the system level too , and so the rest of it is solution oriented .

Speaker 2

And then I would break it into micro , macro . So the micro solution is go get the care package , get the Vicks , vapor Rub , get the whatever . But the macro solution is recognize when I'm redlining sooner . Stop waking up at 3 am and working for an hour before you go back to bed . Sleep through the night as much as you possibly can . Also eat more micronutrients . I had been eating less micros . Emilia eats her salads every night . I I've been skipping salad , skipping scallop , I've been skipping my salad , and by the time you get the consequence , sometimes you are it's too late . The ball's already rolling down the hill . So , real quick three percent , bitch and mo . Three percent , twenty percent . Identify the root cause of what happened and why it happened .

Speaker 1

Okay , we're at 23, . 77 remaining .

Speaker 2

Okay , wait , what ? Yeah ? Nice , now divide that in half , which is what You're looking at 38 and a half , 38 and a half 38 and a half .

Speaker 2

Yeah , 38 and a half . Yeah , I think that is the micro solution . What are you going to do right now that's going to make this better ? Take immediate action . And then the other one is high level . What are you going to change in general ? Update your operating system in general . Updating , update your belief systems in general . So one of ours on the system level is we're always going to have a care package ready we're always going to .

Speaker 1

What does this care package consist of ?

Speaker 2

cough drops , emergency nyquil , dayquil , benedine , all the vicks , vapor rub , everything . We need a med kit , little med kit , for just in case we , and then also we're . It's the change of season too , so next , from summer to fall , we're going to be more careful with putting the heat on 70 at night to make sure that we're not freezing at night , because that was part of it too . 70 ? Yeah , is freezing , no , no , no , 70 is good . Oh , okay , 70 is good . We didn't even we weren't using the heat .

Speaker 2

Sometimes I wonder about you and your the nights get cold quick no , I exist in new england .

Speaker 1

I understand , I live in the same place you do , son I .

Speaker 2

I'm even further north than you are I know I understand , just saying , but you also like it freezing cold ?

Speaker 1

I am upset if it's not .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's my point it helps me with sleep . You sleep like 65 degrees , no 69 .

Speaker 1

69 degrees oh , okay , 69 degrees . If it was up to me , it would be colder , but I have a wife who doesn't want to freeze . I'm with her on that . What advice would you give to someone who is feeling like they're stuck in a problem right now ?

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So please head over to the website . The link will be in the show notes and we would love to see you there . The quicker you get into action , the better . What can you do ? What can you do right now ? The quicker you get into action , the better you're going to feel . The person grinding and growing toward their goals and dreams , toward solving their problems consistently , toward betterment , toward constructing a bigger , better , brighter future will always be the envy of the person sitting around feeling sorry for themselves . And I would ask you the same question , brother , because I think lately it's been a lot of me . I want to hear from you because let's we did an entire episode about me son .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's true , but still . Still , I do go from problem to action , I think fairly quickly .

Speaker 1

I want to know .

Speaker 2

I want to know what you struggle with in this .

Speaker 1

I am not great at it . We did an episode similar to this . I think one way your emotions sabotage you this is kind of the antidote to that one way your emotions sabotage you is when you're not feeling good , you don't want to do good . So when you feel stuck , there's less resistance to staying stuck than there is to going and doing the thing that's going to get you unstuck , and for me it just has to be that conscious . Here's the thing You're not going to get unstuck right now . Here's the thing you're not going to get unstuck right now . It's not like you're going to go from feeling stuck to having the most momentum you ever had in the course of a couple days , but you can start doing the inputs that'll . That'll take you there and I think those inputs feel really good . You could feel , you can feel some momentum moving in the right direction .

Speaker 2

Have you rewired toward meaningful progress , being what you tie your self-esteem to .

Speaker 1

More than ever . It's still not my natural . I still have to remind myself of that . I still have to sit with that and say , kev , is this just a bad week and maybe you're not doing some stuff that you did last week that were inputs , so you just feel like you don't have momentum when in reality nothing has really changed in the grand scheme of things right now . But eventually you know what else helps me too is the sky's not falling . Yeah .

Mindset: Staying positive and taking action

Speaker 2

That helps me . Everything's going to be all right . You just got to get back into action . Everything's going to be all right . You got this . That's the record playing in the back of my head . I don't know what your record is , but mine is . You got this . You can do it . We can do this . We got this . It's not going to be easy , but we're going to find a way to win . That is my mindset .

Speaker 1

That's not mine .

Speaker 2

And that's okay . I'm grateful we're having this dialogue . What I think , and correct me if I'm wrong . Kev , genuinely I want to hold humility in this , watching the time we got three minutes . Yeah yeah , you . I think your tendency when things get heavy is to go R&R .

Speaker 1

I want to .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it's almost like the go-to for you is comfort . So when I'm uncertain , go seek comfort and then after I'm rested , then I go start .

Speaker 1

It's because I'm already so outside of my comfort zone that it doesn't seem productive . Productive isn't the right word , it's just way , way , way harder to do the things .

Speaker 2

Is it because of your state ? Sometimes , when you feel like crap , it's hard to do well too . So it might be your physical state as well .

Speaker 1

I think it's physical and mental state . Yeah , it's constricting . I don't think you get constricted . I think it opens you up . When stuff's hitting the fan , I think you like it . We joke about it , but I just think you get ignited . I don't I get bogged down . I operate really well in a nice abundant , the right area of abundance . You operate really well in the right area of scarcity and I just think the area of scarcity that you operate from is just a very , very .

Speaker 1

You're good when everything is going horribly wrong . You're better when things are going horribly wrong than when they are going really well . I would say I'm better when things are going really well because then I can operate more naturally . Again , this is kind of woo-woo , but , like when we did the episode on energy , I am a lower energy , so that means I'm already a lower energy than you are . So when things are going wrong it's even more brutal For you . You're a high energy , so I think when things are going well , it's almost like it's too easy for you , just because you already have so much . You're already so energetic . It's like I need to make this game a little bit harder . Yeah , just because you already have so much .

Speaker 2

You're already so energetic . It's like I need to make this game a little bit harder . Yeah , it's the challenge skills sweet spot . We used to talk about the target of comfort zone and then learning zone and then anxiety zone . I think my learning zone is very different than yours . Of course Makes sense . Yeah , I learning zone is very different than yours .

Speaker 1

Of course makes sense . Yeah , I think they're all different , All of them .

Speaker 2

Everyone , everyone . And it depends on the circumstance . I mean , we had a plumbing challenge . I was out of my comfort zone immediately . I don't have any idea what to do , but I can call someone to help .

Speaker 1

Well , we were joking about sleep . Alan was like yeah , man , I got a 65 . I'm dragging ass . And I was like I have no empathy . I do , I do .

Speaker 2

But for me that's whatever man , it is all relative . Man , I got a .

Speaker 1

I'll roll with a 40 . The next level live 2024 . No 2020 . Yeah , no 2023 . I think I got a 25 sleep score , a 25 sleep score , and then proceeded to have one of the longest , most stressful days ever . I was like , yeah , that is what it is . What are we gonna do ?

Speaker 2

I don't . I don't operate well on that and again , it's all relative , you don't ? I know we gotta jump my timer just went off , but we did an episode where we talked about your energy levels and one of my clients resonated with your energy level , but he wants to be a peak performer and he wants results that are a byproduct of high energy levels . How are you ? How do you do ?

Speaker 1

I remember when you did get a coach .

Speaker 2

I'm telling you he does do unbelievable with he's a fire .

Speaker 1

I think when people say that person's a natural leader , they're high energy . I'm guessing I'm not . I'm not a natural leader . You should lead the team , I shouldn't . I was talking to Matt the other day . I was like Matt , you're a natural leader , you're you're a natural leader , you're a better leader . I won't say you're a better leader than me to Matt . You're more naturally predisposed to being a leader than I am . I'm a good number two . I'm good to have on the team because people will like me and I'll make them laugh . When things are super serious , I'll crack a joke at the right time and we'll break it up a little bit , but I'm not the person that's going to rally the troops . That's just not who I am .

Speaker 2

I need someone to do that . It takes so much effort and energy to do that . It takes so much and when you don't have it , it feels like the worst thing in the world . When I talked about the elbows on my knees- looking at the floor moment you say I love it .

Different energy levels and how they affect productivity

Speaker 2

It's no , I . I find a way out of the depths and then I love it . I love being in momentum , I love being in action , I love meaningful progress and I do love growth . So for me , but that's , that's one interesting thing too we'll end with this , or I will . Anyways , anyone out there watching or listening , you will have a comfort zone , a zone and an anxiety zone in every single area . Maybe a 20-person team for you would be no way . No , how ? No , maybe that would be easy . There's someone out there who their walking pace is you're all out sprint . And there's something you do where your walking pace is they're all out sprint . You used to do 20 , you did 20 podcasts other podcasts in a week , not including ours .

Speaker 1

So that's 28 . What's your record ? Scheduled for 14 . I was scheduled for 14 this week .

Speaker 2

Nice , what's your record for podcasts in a given week , 20 .

Speaker 1

I think the most I ever did was either 28 or 29 , I think .

Speaker 2

I remember when Amy on the team started doing podcasts , she said wow , I'm garbage . And I said you're not garbage , I understand and I'm not going to take that from you . If you think you're garbage , you're not garbage , I understand and I'm not going to take that from you . If you think you're garbage , you're garbage . That's fine , I understand . Like I think I'm garbage , but just understand . You're comparing to Kevin and I . We've been doing podcasts for ever , for so long . I mean , of course you're going to think you're garbage . We make it look easy , dude , can you imagine doing 28 podcast episodes in a in the first week ? You ever podcast ?

Speaker 2

absolutely not , no , no , what would , what would happen ?

Speaker 1

I would . I wouldn't make it through them all , no way I'd quit somewhere you'd be crying on the floor yeah , I probably in a fetal position .

Speaker 2

That's what I think people under they they overestimate or underestimate go ahead .

Speaker 1

I was gonna say or I would just love it so much that I would do them , but it doesn't mean I'd be good at them . I might just do them and be like this is amazing , but I wouldn't be good , I'd be terrible .

Speaker 2

All of those shows would regret me for sure . So what's each of our takeaway ?

Finding someone to motivate you when energy is low

Speaker 1

Boy , I think you've got to find . If you're not naturally the person who's like , all right , let's get up and do it . You've got to find someone . Have someone in your corner . That is because that's going to be extremely helpful . Somebody has to set the pace , and the last thing you want is the pace to be set by the scarcity of you not doing this stuff . It's like , well , I really have to do this or I'm going to lose blank , blank , blank , blank . Get somebody in your corner that says Blank , blank , blank blank . That's my takeaway .

Speaker 2

Nice Good luck . Mine would be Try to get out of that first 3% . I was playful with the . I need to bitch and moan every now and then I'm telling you it's never more than 3% , it's not .

Speaker 1

Every now and then it is 3% and I apologize to Amelia .

Speaker 2

When she's yeah , but I think you gotta express , you gotta get to get it out . Frustration's a thing . I've punched the ceiling of my car before . I haven't done that in many years , but you got to get it out . However , don't stay there long . Get back into constructive action , because nothing else is going to make it better .

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Speaker 2

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Yes , yes . Well , it's the best and I'm super excited and I already started filling stuff out . I'm going to start on October 1st , so I have the 90 days . Bada bing , bada boom , I'll be off to the races . I like to start fresh . If you are looking to make Q4 the most consistent , aligned 90 days of your entire life , please purchase the Next Level Dreamliner .

Speaker 1

The team is using it . We've gotten a lot of good feedback , gwen , in the community , there's a bunch of people that have said a lot of really , really good things about it , so we'll have the link in the show notes . There's Alan's , it's on Amazon and it will help you literally every day . Top three gratitudes top three most important tasks , most important win , most important improvement next level lesson Did you check off your habits ? A little question to help keep you guided . It's a good amount , but not something that's going to be impossible for you to do every day . It's not an entire novel . Every day , 10 , 15 minutes , part of the morning routine . Boom off to the races . We'll have the link in the show notes .

Speaker 2

I tracked it earlier today for the first time . Actually , I had 10 minutes before I needed to get in the shower in order to not be late to my first meeting and 10 minutes before I needed to get in the shower in order to not be late to my first meeting .

Speaker 1

And .

Speaker 2

I got it done in seven minutes , nice , so seven minutes a day and I I filled the whole thing out too and I answered the question . So seven minutes and I'm a slow writer , okay , uh , also , if you want to crush Q4 with us , join us on this journey . Next level group coaching 90 days , mario cart booster to toward your goals and dreams , 10 like-minded individuals this is our 16th group . This will be our fourth year in a row doing group coaching . It is the most valuable thing for the lowest price point that we offer . Please , please , please , check it out . The link will be in the show notes . Use the promo code nER , spelled just like it sounds NLULISTENER for 30% off comes to $96 per month , which , with 12 sessions , comes to less than $25 per session . You will never get more valuable , more affordable coaching than that .

Speaker 1

I'm in . I would sign up if I wasn't part of it .

Speaker 2

Well , you are . If I wasn't , it's already on your calendar , sir .

Outro

Speaker 1

Okay , well , I'll be there . Then I'll be there . Awesome , I'm invited . As always , we love you , we appreciate you , grateful for each and every one of you , and at NLU we don't have fans , we have family . We will talk to you all tomorrow . Keep after it . Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University . We love connecting with the Next Level family .

Speaker 2

We mean it when we say family . If you ever need anything , please reach out to us directly . Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes .

Speaker 1

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow .

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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