Next Level University

If You’re “All Or Nothing” Listen To This Episode (1866)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

Share episode

Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.

0:00 | 34:23

Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros uncover why an all-or-nothing mindset often leads to frustration and offer practical steps for building a routine that sticks. Learn how small, achievable goals can help you find consistency and success without overwhelming yourself.

Links mentioned:
Next Level Nation - https://www.facebook.com/groups/459320958216700
Free 30-Minute Coaching Call with Alan: https://bit.ly/4f3MSUz

______________________

NLU is not just a podcast; it’s a gateway to a wealth of resources designed to help you achieve your goals and dreams. From our Next Level Dreamliner to our Group Coaching, we offer a variety of tools and communities to support your personal development journey.

For more information, please check out our website at the link below. 👇

Website 💻  http://www.nextleveluniverse.com

_______________________

Any of these communities or resources are FREE to join and consume
Next Level Nation - https://www.facebook.com/groups/459320958216700
Next Level 5 To Thrive (free course) - ​​https://bit.ly/3xffver
Next Level U Book Club - https://bit.ly/3BQBYDr
Next Level Monthly Meet-up:  https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/monthly-meetups/

_______________________

We love connecting with you guys! Reach out on Instagram, Facebook, or via email. We’re here to support you in your personal and professional development journey.

Instagram 📷
Kevin: https://www.instagram.com/neverquitkid/
Alan: https://www.instagram.com/alazaros88/

Facebook ✍
Alan: https://www.facebook.com/alan.lazaros
Kevin: https://www.facebook.com/kevin.palmieri.90/

Email 💬
Kevin@nextleveluniverse.com
Alan@nextleveluniverse.com

LinkedIn ✍
Kevin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-palmieri-5b7736160/
Alan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanlazarosllc/

_______________________

Show notes:
(2:59) Discussing the “all-or-nothing” mentality
(6:40) Finding sustainable habits for long-term success
(16:01) Setting realistic expectations for a morning routine
(17:09) At NLU, we want you to win! So, we’re giving tools and resources to ensure your success. Join our Monthly Meet-up every first Thursday of the month at 5 PM. https://bit.ly/3BPR2B4
(19:40) Balancing conflicting priorities in life
(24:10) Aligning habits with personal goals and schedules
(29:31) Importance of structured habits to avoid burnout
(33:41) Outro

Send a text to Kevin and Alan!

🎙️ Hosted by Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

Next Level University is a top-ranked daily podcast for dream chasers and self-improvement lovers. With over 2,100 episodes, we help you level up in life, love, health, and wealth one day at a time. Subscribe for real, honest, no-fluff growth every single day.

Speaker 1

In an ideal world , yeah , you'd wake up and you'd do mobility and you'd drink your water and you'd have your pre-workout and you'd do this and you'd do this and you'd do your warm-up and then you'd exercise . Sometimes you don't do all those things , but what's the most important thing , if you do the A activity , you'll actually build momentum .

Speaker 2

If you have three priorities that are conflicting , you're going to be inconsistent and then feel bad about it . So , for example , if you prioritize your morning routine and prioritize family time in the morning , you're dead in the water right there .

Speaker 1

Welcome to Next Level University . I'm your host , kevin Palmieri , and .

Speaker 2

I'm your co-host , Alan Lazarus .

Speaker 1

At NLU , we believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers .

Speaker 2

Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life love health and wealth .

Speaker 1

We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence , self-belief , self-worth , self-awareness . Like confidence , self-belief , self-worth , self-awareness , relationships , boundaries , consistency , habits and defining your own unique version of success .

Speaker 2

Self-improvement in your pocket , every day , from anywhere , completely free .

Speaker 1

Welcome to Next Level University , next Level Nation . Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University , where we help you level up your life , your love , your health and your wealth Today for episode number 1,866, . Why are you smiling ? Because you used the word wisdomatic . Again , I did . Yes , it is a word . It's not a word . It will be one day . 1866 is the episode we're doing today . It's Freestyle Friday . Alan doesn't know where we're going to go .

Speaker 2

I'm looking up the word wisdomatic Is wisdomatic .

Speaker 1

No , it's definitely not a word , but I didn't know hyperconscious was a word .

Speaker 2

Yes , wisdomatic is a word that someone created Kyla , and this is Googled , so Kyla blank claims to have created the word and started using it when she was 12 years old .

Speaker 1

Thank , you AI .

Speaker 2

This is really on Google . It's an urban dictionary thing . So , what is a word full of wisdom ? Wisdomatic , a statement of opinion as a fact , which lacks facts and substantiated evidence ? The lack of evidence , yeah none of that's real . I don't believe a single word yeah , urban dictionary is nonsense , I think it's not real .

Speaker 1

It's not real . Okay , I have an idea for today's episode . It's freestyle friday , which means we're freestyling on friday . I have a question for you , sir , that's why iling on Friday . I have a question for you , sir , that's why I'm Googling stuff . I have a question for you . You do love Googling stuff . First question would you identify as somebody who is all or nothing ?

Discussing the "all-or-nothing" mentality

Speaker 2

Yeah probably .

Speaker 1

What advice would you give to somebody who is struggling with an all-or-nothing mentality because , unfortunately , more often than not , they choose nothing ?

Speaker 2

Whoa , whoa . I am so grateful you're asking this question . If we look back on our life you , I , we have we both have many regrets , many poor choices .

Speaker 2

okay , yeah yeah , and and I think that everyone has regrets . Not everyone admits to them and a lot of people say well , you know , if that didn't happen , I wouldn't have learned this . That's true . Just because you took a lot from a negative experience doesn't mean you didn't make a poor choice . Anyways , you regret a lot of the things that you didn't do . I regret most of the things I did do , and that makes sense , because high self-belief and optimism creates a lot more doing and I regret so . You ever hear the advice of you need to learn how to say no more I've heard you say it maybe a million times .

Speaker 2

I desperately needed to learn how to say no more yeah a lot of people need to learn how to say yes more . You , early on you said no to everything and you needed so . We've talked in the past , past episodes hyperconscious . For new listeners . That was our old brand change the way you think , change the way you act , change the way you live hyperconscious . And we talked about the movie yes man with jim carrey funny red bull , red bull funny movie .

Speaker 2

I actually think I used to think the majority of people say yes too much , but when in reality I now realize I said yes to way too many things . I played basketball and I snowboard , I was at every party . I was trying to be too much , but I now realize that was self-belief and optimism . So you , I think , said no too much and didn't get enough exposure and experiences and that kind of thing . So , to answer your original question to someone who's all or nothing , I was all and needed to learn how to say no . You did very little and needed to learn how to say yes . Is that fair ?

Speaker 1

I would say so , and I don't know what percentage of humans struggle with what , because I think there's probably a lot of people that would identify as people pleasers , that say yes even though they don't want to . I just never was that . I don't care If I'm not interested , I'm not coming . I don't care , I'm stubborn .

Speaker 2

So if Kevin and I were both applying to a job , trying to find a job , I would apply to 100 jobs and Kevin would apply to three and then assume no one wants him . Is that fair , yep .

Speaker 1

Okay .

Speaker 2

I would go on 50 interviews . You know I'd apply to 100 jobs . I'd go on 30 interviews or 50 interviews and then I'd have to pick one , and I would probably focus on quantity more than quality . You would probably apply to three that you really wanted and then , when they said no , assume that no one wants you and I'm being playful , but honestly I think so . I think you're on the more normal side of that . I think I could be wrong . To someone who errs on the side of the nothing instead of the all or nothing thing , what would be my advice would be start small and , more importantly , I think , courage to say yes to things that are outside your comfort zone would be where you have to start .

Finding sustainable habits for long-term success

Speaker 1

But what if it's not that ? What if it's ? I'm ready to start tracking habits , I'm ready to do this , I'm ready to do this , but I'm all or nothing and I just don't feel like all is , because what I told , what I said to this person , was we just have to find a way to create a sustainable all . It doesn't have to be , it doesn't have to be the all that you're imagining , but it has to be a sustainable all that feels like it's in the right direction , that feels like it's worth doing . A list of things . It has to make sense to you , right ? What if it's not outside of the comfort zone ? It's more , I mean .

Speaker 2

I guess it is outside of the comfort zone . What's the context of this story ? Anonymously , Someone reached out .

Speaker 1

Somebody wants to be more consistent . Somebody wants to be more consistent with their habits . Okay , what habits ? I mean fitness habits , morning routine habits . Okay , what habits ? I mean fitness habits , morning routine habits . But I think in their head it's almost like the sustainability gets skipped . So it doesn't even start from a place of sustainability . It starts from a place of consistency and then consistency burns down because it's too much too sustainability . It starts from a place of consistency and then consistency burns down because it's too much too fast . Then it becomes a negative and then it goes from . I was doing it all for five days and now I'm going to do none for the next 25 days of the month and rinse and repeat yeah , I would say you need to .

Speaker 2

I think the biggest cheat code for lack of better phrasing is getting a streak going , but it has to be a streak you can sustain . And this is so freaking hard because mentoring for 10 years , coaching for almost 8 metrics and habits is what I've been doing for 10 years almost 10 years Myself and with others and I think I have more people tracking metrics and habits than maybe I don't want to say anyone . I'm sure there's other people I know there's apps for habit tracking and stuff , but I would say me personally , I've co-designed systems of success metrics and habits more than anyone I personally know , and so I've done this so many times . I know what works and what doesn't work for which type of person .

Speaker 2

There's a couple types of people . There's people who want to get a hundred percent of an easy system easier system . For anyone listening who you know who you are . I'm not saying your system is easy , I'm saying you like to get a hundred percent of whatever you do , okay . And then there's another person I just coached earlier today who never gets above 70 because she thinks the system is too easy the moment she starts winning at it , and I think some of that is her trying to keep herself worth low . Some of that is she's super growth oriented and really wants to .

Speaker 2

So for me , my system lately I'm probably at my average lately is probably 70 maybe . My system lately I'm probably at my average lately is probably 70% maybe , but my system is really freaking hard . So it depends on where she's at . Where do you think that person is ? Is it a she ? Yeah , okay , where do you think that ? Which one do you think that person would do better ? 100% of an easy system or 70% of a really hard one ? 100% of an easy system , 70 of a really hard one ? 100 of an easy system ?

Speaker 1

so here's the problem she's trying to get 100 on a hard system . I think any system's hard when you first start .

Speaker 2

It agreed that's it , so it's a humility issue in my honest opinion so you need to have the humility to start super small .

Speaker 2

you know what this ? We don't talk about that often , but a lot of us have an identity that's better than we want to believe that we're better than three habits a day . Honestly though , at the beginning you're kind of not , and that can be really painful . To realize that that's one of the reasons habit tracking is so hard is a lot of people . It bumps up against their view of self and if their view of self is , yeah , I can totally do a lot of people , it bumps up against their view of self . And if their view of self is , yeah , I can totally do a lot . And then they realize in the real world they actually can't .

Speaker 2

When they start actually tracking , it can be very devastating to your identity . It's very uncomfortable . But once that phoenix burns down and you rise anew from those metaphorical ashes , you really start to grow . And then all of a sudden , when you and I started , you tracked five habits and that was hard to do . That took humility to come to me . It took humility to sit in front of a whiteboard and figure out what actually is necessary , and it took humility to start with five while I was doing whatever . 15 or 18 or whatever .

Speaker 1

Well , I think the other thing too was some of the things I was already doing . So it was like I was just giving myself credit Exercise 30 minutes a day things I was already doing . So it was like I was just giving myself credit Exercise 30 minutes a day . I was already doing that pretty much every day , so I was just doing something and then giving myself credit for it , something that I wasn't doing before . I think the thing that makes it super hard is when people say imagine yourself as the ideal version of yourself . You can't really do that and then choose the habits that ideal self would have , because ideal self is evolved through experience and if that's why , if somebody said Kev , that's why I can't . I could not imagine at the beginning of this journey that I would be doing what I'm doing today . I couldn't imagine it . I didn't know what ideal Kev would have to do to become ideal Kev . I didn't . How would I ever know ? No way I can know .

Speaker 2

There's no way . It's almost like you have to have an ideal vision , to some extent , some clarity , of what that version of you would be like and then try to reach that standard in the short term . However , your system habits need to be so freaking small , almost embarrassingly small . I actually really believe that . I was on with a brand new client earlier and I didn't want to overwhelm her because we kind of rebranded her entire business . She's on four different Instagrams and I got her to do one and she said this is exactly what I needed . So I'm grateful and if you're listening , you know who you are . But when it comes to the habits , you almost need to be embarrassed with how small you start .

Speaker 2

In group coaching , way back in group one , we've done 16 groups . This is our 16th . We started with 12 habits and a lot of people struggled and fell off . I think we only had three people by the end of it actually complete it , and now we start with three , and the reason why is because everyone needs to . You can't . If you pick up a basketball , you're not going to suddenly start dribbling between your legs . You're going to learn how to dribble and then you're gonna so like cars plumbing . I joke , I don't know what the heck I'm doing , and it it reminds me and humbles me of how , how small you have to start yeah , in everything .

Speaker 1

Well , if you think of it as maybe your eye , your ideal morning routine , I won a really cool podcast the other day . I was telling you about it . Shout out to trevor . I don't know if trevor's listening , but he's like what's your day ? Look like man .

Speaker 2

I want to be a podcaster .

Speaker 1

He's , he wants to be a full-time podcaster Eventually . He's like you inspire me , I'm 24 . It's like dude , that's awesome , that's cool , that's cool stuff . And I said , what I'm going to tell you about my morning routine is not for morning routine porn . It's not why I'm saying it . I'm not saying you have to do it the same way . I'm not saying it . I think the issue is , when you're designing a morning routine , your ideal morning routine is you get up and then you do habit one , habit two , habit three , habit four , habit five , then your morning routine is done . What can I do for you ? Nothing . Habit four , habit five , then your morning routine is done .

Speaker 2

What can I do for you ? Nothing , I just the ideal morning routine versus the lately morning routine is pretty different wake up in a panic realize you don't have time to shower , run to your first call , make it look like you're not a mess . Uh , and I also playfully when , when he asked you know what's your day look like ? And in my head I said atrocious , yeah , yeah , it sucks no .

Speaker 2

In the best way I'm being playful , but , truth be told , I've tried to condense morning routines . I love this . This is great . Down to three things . You have a minimum . You need a minimum . Everybody needs minimums On the NLU team . There , everybody needs minimums . On the nlu team , there's three minimums team huddles , peak performance tracking and team trainings . That's it , minimums . We all do those three things . For for yourself , you need to have minimums . Emilia and I have some minimums in our relationship three gratitudes a night . We have to be in bed in the bedroom by 10 . There's certain minimums , and even that one we've been jeffing lately . But at the end of the day , you want to set yourself up for minimums and I think a lot of us are trying to win at too many things . But anyways continue .

Speaker 1

I'm just thinking of it as a stack Wake up at X time , don't touch phone for first hour . Journal stretch whatever . Whatever the five things are , you stretch whatever . Whatever the five things are , you know where you start . You start with the first one for the first week get up at six o'clock , get up at seven o'clock , get up at eight o'clock , whatever that . That is where you start , because if you cannot do that one , the rest just don't matter .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

That is the linchpin today . I got up at six , I went out and I did my morning routine and I didn't go to the gym . I said honestly I am tired , my body is beat . I've been lifting very heavy and just beating the hell out of my body . I'm going to take a day . Everything else got done , though . Everything else got done . Now what You're ?

Speaker 2

very happy .

Speaker 1

I'm just happy . You're very happy today .

Speaker 2

Yeah

Setting realistic expectations for a morning routine

Speaker 2

.

Speaker 1

I dig it , my mind says stuff .

Speaker 2

I'm thinking of it that way , I'm also kidding , coming from the guy who barely got to his first call .

Speaker 1

It's all good . Well , I know those dog walks can be pretty intense In that neighborhood of yours .

Speaker 2

I know there's lots of hills and stuff .

Speaker 1

In the gated neighborhood of yours .

Speaker 2

I'm grateful we can still bro out every now and then . That makes me happy .

Speaker 1

I do love broing out .

Speaker 2

It's just different than it used to be . I miss it .

Speaker 1

But that's where my mind goes there . In an ideal world , yeah , you'd wake up and you'd do mobility and you'd drink your water , and you'd have your pre-workout and you'd do this and you'd do this and you'd do your warm-up and then you'd exercise . Sometimes you don't , but what's the most important thing , If you do the A activity , you'll actually build momentum . The A activity is get up when the alarm goes off . Awesome , that's great . That's the place to start . Then , when you do that for a week , then you do the next thing , then you get up and then , whatever the first thing is Cool , prove to yourself , you can do that . I think to your point . I think you just have to turn down what all is .

At NLU, we want you to win! So, we're giving tools and resources to ensure your success. Join our Monthly Meet-up every first Thursday of the month at 5 PM.

Speaker 2

NLU listener what is happening ? I just wanted to jump in here and let you know if you want to get to the next level faster . We have a free virtual monthly meetup at the first Thursday of every month . You can connect with like-minded people and become a bigger part of this amazing global community . The link to register will be in the show notes . What are your most rock-solid habits ? I was thinking about that because We've been doing habits for so long , yeah , that we forget what winging it is like . When was the last time you just wung it ?

Speaker 1

Probably when I was in Scotland , and even then Even then you weren't winging it . I was getting up at 6 and working in the morning , but I wasn't doing mobility , I didn't exercise any time . I mean , we walked a lot but I didn't go to the gym . I wasn't learning nearly as much . I was batching WhatsApp , I was batching emails , but my morning routine was , jeff , compared to what it is Freestyle Friday , so giving ourselves permission to do this For all the listeners , anyone watching .

Speaker 2

Think about your top three as well . What are your top three most rock solid habits right now ? Like , what are the top three habits you're the most proud of right now that you've been doing , let's say , the last month plus ?

Speaker 1

Probably the morning routine . I've gotten up at six every single day , except for I'm going to sleep in on Sundays . I think that was an ego thing . For me it was a conversation of am I going to feel soft if I don't get up at six ? Am I being lazy or is this really what's best ? And I tested it out Sunday and I woke up .

Speaker 2

I think I woke up at seven , it's like okay , well , it all depends what you're optimizing for prioritizing . Quality time with Taryn , so are you prioritizing sleep or are you prioritizing I'm ?

Speaker 1

prioritizing sleep and then quality time with Taryn on Sundays . It's hard when I if I wake up and I go to the gym . I usually go to the gym a little bit later on Sunday and then I get home it's like 9 or 9 30 . I never , ever , ever wake up in bed with my wife almost never , because I'm always up at the ass crack of dawn yeah so sunday is kind of that .

Speaker 1

I want that to be family day where I can actually wake up next to my , next to my wife for for once , four times in the month we never talk about this but we should more priorities in conflict .

Balancing conflicting priorities in life

Speaker 2

A lot of people okay . So my priority is sleep . Guess what if my priority is sleep ? So I got an 88 sleep score , 82 , 82 sleep score last night . My priority is sleep . You can't have that be your priority and party all night and wake up early . See how you , if you have the wrong habits . Oh , I want to go to bed early and I want to see my friends late and I want to prioritize sleep and I also want to have a rockstar morning routine , even though my first call is at 10 . I don't think we talk about this enough . One of the reasons people aren't consistent and this I don't know if we've ever mentioned on the podcast which is alarming If you have three priorities that are conflicting , you're going to be inconsistent and then feel bad about it . So , for example , if you prioritize your morning routine and prioritize family time in the morning , you're dead in the water , right there .

Speaker 2

And prioritize sleep . You kind of have to prioritize your morning routine or sleep . If your priority is sleep , like mine , you don't set an alarm and you sleep until you can't sleep anymore within reason obviously , my first call is at 10 , so I know minimum I have to be up at 9.30 , but my body always wakes me up before that , particularly if I get to bed on time . But at the end of the day , one of the reasons people aren't consistent is because their system is designed in a way , their habits are designed in a way , that the priorities are in conflict . If your priority and I told Emilia this , so the priority right now is service and I'm working till 7 pm , it's 6.04 right now . I'm working till 7 pm , it's 604 right now . I need a little bit of permission from her to be a little less present on the day-to-day for this chapter , because I know that if I have a priority of family and a priority of business and a priority of fitness , I know that I'm gonna fail pretty miserably because they can't . They conflict so much .

Speaker 1

I don't think people talk about that enough .

Speaker 1

Again , we're privileged where we can make our own schedule to a degree . Right At the end of the day , we work for the clients . That's kind of how a business works . I want to make sure I'm available for the people that need us . We changed my schedule from 11 to 6 . Again , when you and I record , it's whatever , and then group coaching usually goes over and the meetup usually goes over and the team call usually goes over . But I'm not scheduled from 6 to 7 anymore . I promise it's positive and it's moved in a wonderful direction . I'm not complaining , I promise . One of the reasons was I used to get up at 5 , and I would say to Alan brother , we're finishing at 7.45 . I still have to eat dinner and I have to be in bed sleeping by 9 .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

So it's either I eat , I go to bed on time or I spend time with my wife . That's it . I get to pick one out of three . That was terrible . It was so hard to choose . Yeah , it was so hard to choose .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it was so hard to choose . I was . I had heartburn before bed . I couldn't sleep because I had . I had just eaten like 15 minutes before I went to bed . It doesn't work for me . Now I go to bed by 10 every night . Maybe saturday I'll stay up late , but sunday I'm sleeping in yeah but that I don't never .

Speaker 1

I never miss that . Very , very , very rarely do I miss that . Sometimes Taryn will tap me on the shoulder and say , hey , you want to ride the lightning tonight and we'll stay up for an extra half hour . But I'm not going to bed at midnight , I'm still going to bed at 10.20 .

Speaker 2

That's the cool thing about the goal of being 10 pm . When we ride the lightning , we still end up 11.15 , which is still better than it used to be when we didn't have the 10 o'clock goals .

Speaker 1

I think that's a really good point , though I think it's how the goals are supposed to work together .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and if they don't and they're in conflict , you will always fail and then feel terrible about it . I even told you right before this . I said , brother , I feel so free because my calendar calendar . I don't want to keep talking about us , but I also know we need to lead by example . My calendar's never been . I've never felt more demand and I and I'm grateful for that supply is way less than demand . There's more demand for me than there is supply and I'm grateful for that . However , I told Kev I need permission for it to be messy . I can't be perfect and overwhelmed and a great partner and a great pet dad and fit and so the to

Aligning habits with personal goals and schedules

Speaker 2

this person .

Speaker 2

Going back to the original origin story , this episode , what I would say is you need to find the optimal amount of like . Start with three habits and , once you lock those in , then go to four , then go to five , but those three can't be in conflict . Right , they need to be . You can't , you can't have a goal to be in bed at 10 pm and have friends who love to party till till midnight like , honestly , dude , I I feel like the reason why our associations are so important . You and I are both in bed early , we're both up , we both work , we both have similar schedules .

Speaker 2

Dude , how emily and I talk about this all the time because she's like , well , I want to go to bed earlier . And I sit there and say , sweetheart , that's a pipe dream , us going to bed at different times , us not going to the gym together , us , you going to the gym in the morning , me going at night . There's no way that's going to work . People don't talk about this enough . But do you know how hard it is to exercise consistently when your schedule doesn't isn't aligned to that ? It's very hard . Back when you used to work nights , how hard was it to coexist with other people it was very unsustainable .

Speaker 1

We would drive eight hours home from New Jersey and I would go to the gym at 3 o'clock in the morning . It was not there's no . I remember texting my family because we came home on a Wednesday , thanksgiving was on a Thursday and I was in the gym at 3 o'clock in the morning on Thanksgiving Day and I was like , hey , I'm not going to be down until like noon but I got probably five hours of sleep and then I get up and drove an hour and a half down to see them .

Speaker 2

Not just not sustainable , not healthy Schedule is so important Some of the work I do with people . I have one client every week . We look , we pull up his calendar and we optimize his schedule . If I remember , you and I used to be running amok for lack of better phrasing and we weren't as good with our calendars and I think I was always a little better than you , if I'm honest , but you and I back in those early days , man it was oh , I just got someone just got back to me on Instagram let's drive and let's do a podcast episode with so-and-so .

Speaker 2

And that would never dude . We never could have got to this level playing like that .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it was good times , good times back then , but so what's your takeaway ? What's your takeaway ? I know you want to keep going , but I don't want to take the listeners on a three-hour ride . Agreed , I mean , I do .

Speaker 2

But what are your priorities ? Don't pick ten . Ten is too much , five is too much . Try to pick 3 for this chapter . What's the most important habit under each of those priorities ?

Speaker 1

And how do I make sure they're not in conflict ? Mine would be the best routine whether it's a morning routine , a nighttime routine , a lunchtime routine , a fitness routine starts with one habit . I think a routine is probably an accumulation of habits . I don't know what the definition is , but when I think routine it's , I do this , then this then this , then this .

Speaker 1

It starts with one , starts with one , so start on the very first pillar and until you're there , I probably wouldn't add much more , unless you know you can handle it , that my morning routine isn't as hard for me because I like going to the gym Not every day , but I think I just have less resistance . I like waking up early , I genuinely do . I don't want to sleep in during the week , I don't . I want to get up and I want to get after it , and I also know that I don't want to work super late . I'd rather get up at 6 and work from 6 to 7 than work from 9 to 9 .

Speaker 1

I'd rather do the first one that works better for me . That's the way I'm wired , so that is less resistance for me right off the bat than maybe somebody else . So I think that's a piece of it and I think that's why some of the advice you get is terrible . The collective you gets can be terrible , because it would be easy for me to say , oh yeah , it's not that hard to have a morning routine like that . One , I make my own schedule . Two I've been going to the gym for 16 years . It's different , it's , it's I just there's . There's less resistance for me because I've done it for so long , just like , if you do , I know I always , I always shit on cold plunges . I'm I'm not , I'm always . I'm joking , obviously , but if you've done cold plunges you have less resistance to cold water because you've done it . At least you know it's like yeah , like yeah . I've done it 15 times . I know it's going to suck , but I'm used to it . There's just not the same amount of resistance . So that's my takeaway .

Speaker 2

Yeah . And then , underneath all that , there's still some level of yeah , no one , you're going to have to grid it out . Yes , once you have it designed , you're going to have to grid it out or you're going to have to be okay with not getting results and or not feeling good about yourself , and I really want to make that land that'll be . The last thing I say is you're not gonna feel good about yourself . Running amok , we romanticize carefree wandering . I'm telling you , I coach a lot of people . There are people that are very wealthy that I coach , that do very well , and they are not happy without routine . Human beings need some structures . Too much structure is not good , but too little is also not good I'm just gonna

Importance of structured habits to avoid burnout

Speaker 2

do what I want tomorrow .

Speaker 1

What are your thoughts ? You do , you , man ? I see me at the driving range at 11 am . I'll send you a video .

Speaker 2

Dude , it's a bucket of balls , man , yeah , you know it man I uh you would have to give up being this business owner , you know ultimately , it's like yeah , because we just can't sustain , you can't grow and scale a global business one day on the golf course one day I'll be doing calls , I'll be doing coaching calls from the driving range you ?

Speaker 1

yeah , that is your thought about uh , social media for your podcast . What are your thoughts on that ?

Speaker 2

hold on , let's try this thing all right , I used to do coaching sessions on the way home from the studio when we had an in-person studio . I know that , and there were a couple clients who said I was so angry when you did that I I felt like I really wanted zoom and share screen and all that stuff . I actually lost a couple clients because of that you thought you were hot shit I did .

Speaker 1

You were wrong , I did . I figured it was worth it .

Speaker 2

I tried my best but , dude , that was the only way I could fit it in back then .

Speaker 1

Yeah , traveling back and forth to the studio was a whole thing .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we had to do it . That was way back in the day .

Speaker 1

All right group of like-minded individuals , maybe a place to get some feedback on building a new habit or building a new routine . Next Level Nation is the place to do it . We will have the link in the show notes . As always , it is a warm and welcoming group of self-improvement folk just like you , so please join if you're interested .

Speaker 2

Your future will not get bigger and brighter by accident . It will get bigger and brighter by design . If will get bigger and brighter by design , if you want to design your future , your goals , your metrics , your habits and then really figure out some of the deeper parts of who you need to be , who you want to be , who you actually are and sort of how to achieve your goals and dreams . It's my favorite work in the world . It's what I'm doing constantly .

Speaker 2

I would say at least 60% of my time is invested in one-on-one coaching with individuals leveling up themselves , leveling up their podcast , leveling up their business primarily themselves and their business since Kev's the podcast man . But ultimately I have a lot of podcasters . I coach too . I was on with a podcaster earlier . So ultimately , if you want to dial in your system and design a system that works for you , specifically catered to you , I always say anyone can teach you how to lose weight or how to achieve a goal . Very few people can get you to actually do it and sustain it and scale it long term . I'm definitely becoming more aware that I'm I'm someone who's really good at that , so I really hope to reach out . My link will be in the show notes the goal engineer , I would say yeah , I know you don't like it .

Speaker 1

I know you don't like it and I one of our clients , philip the physique engineer .

Speaker 2

That's his thing . I identify deeply with engineer same . I don't think I look like an engineer . I think I look like an engineer I've never .

Speaker 1

You're the first engineer I've ever met . That's True . You know . True and scary maybe , but it's true . I didn't know what engineering was before I told you that I thought you build bridges and stuff . Some people , some engineers do . You've never met any other engineers . Where would I meet engineers ? Go on and tell me In my past life .

Speaker 2

I don't know . I know so many engineers . I think that's hard for me .

Speaker 1

Did you know any bodybuilders before you became a bodybuilder , son ?

Speaker 2

Yeah Of course Me . I played basketball , so a lot of bodybuilders were on the court .

Speaker 1

Well , there's something that you didn't know , that you do know now because you did it .

Speaker 2

No , I just I never really thought from that frame . But yeah , I do identify as engineer , so goal engineer I don't resonate necessarily with that .

Speaker 1

But if that's what you think .

Speaker 2

I am my friend . I will help you reverse engineer your goals .

Speaker 1

I would say that's what you are . Yeah , if I was going to introduce you to someone , I'd say he's good . Yeah , do it , man .

Speaker 2

Introduce me how you think . I just want to help more people achieve their goals .

Speaker 1

Well then , that's what you'll do .

Speaker 2

Reach their potential .

Speaker 1

That's what you'll do then .

Speaker 2

That is what I'll do ?

Speaker 1

I want to do another podcast episode , so that's what we're going to do . Let's do

Outro

Speaker 1

that . Next Level Nation as always , we love you , we appreciate you , grateful for each and every one of you , and at NLU we don't have fans , we have family . We will talk to you all tomorrow . Keep after it . Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University . We love connecting with the Next Level family .

Speaker 2

We mean it when we say family . If you ever need anything , please reach out to us directly . Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes .

Speaker 1

Thank , you again and we will talk to you tomorrow .

Head Shot

Alan Lazaros

Host
Head Shot

Kevin Palmieri

Host