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2 Ways Your Ego Holds You Back (1867)

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Is ego holding you back? In this episode, Kevin and Alan discuss the impact of ego on goals, relationships, and self-worth. They offer practical insights on letting go of ego, embracing new opportunities, and building genuine self-belief while staying true to oneself. With advice on providing value upfront and cultivating true confidence, this episode is filled with tips to help listeners get unstuck and elevate their lives, careers, and relationships.

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Show notes:
(2:11) Story about letting go of ego for growth
(4:52) Impact of overvaluing and undervaluing oneself
(10:46) Practical business advice on pricing and value
(15:28) Building relationships and adding free value
(17:35) At NLU, we want you to win! So, we’re giving tools and resources to ensure your success. Join our Monthly Meet-up every first Thursday of the month at 5 PM. https://bit.ly/3BPR2B4
(19:40) Common missteps in early business pricing
(29:22) Encouragement to take the first step with a free coaching session
(31:58) Outro

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Speaker 1

imagine every time we did one of these episodes we were getting paid $50,000. It probably wouldn't affect you that much, but I would be thinking, everything I say would be different. I would be overthinking everything. I wouldn't be myself as much Did I say the F word in the last episode. I'm going to make sure we've got to cut that out, because the sponsors aren't going to like that. It wouldn't be the same, it couldn't be the same.

Speaker 2

You're just uncertain. You don't know if you trust me. You don't know if you trust the product or service. You don't know if you trust the brand. And that's why you and I have to be consistent, because we have to prove ourselves. That's why everyone buys AirPods. Apple has proven itself for 48 years. Apple has proven itself. That's why everyone has a favorite actor or actress. They've proven themselves.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1,867, two Ways your Ego Holds you Back 1,867. Two ways your ego holds you back. I get an audio message from. I would consider this person a friend now because I've been talking to this person for a long time. But they're a podcaster, they're a coach and they reach out to me occasionally for advice and they love sending me audios and I love hammering them with audios back. It's fun. I very much enjoy that. That's how I communicate with people. I just love talking.

Story about letting go of ego for growth

Speaker 1

Evidently they messaged me and said hey, I have this opportunity. First they said if you were me, what would you do to make money the fastest humanly possible? All right, cool. That's the frame. I live in an apartment complex and the gym in the apartment complex is looking for a personal trainer. I happen to be a personal trainer and it's mine. If I want it, I have a really good opportunity here to go and train people. Not a lot of people use the gym, so the apartment complex wants more people to come. So it's kind of a synergistic relationship where I'm going to help them grow the people that come. I'll be able to make money doing it. Boom. And he asks really good questions. He said, kev, what are the things that I have to release in order to make this actually work? And we have a really good relationship and I messaged him back and I said you have to release your effing ego.

Speaker 2

Did you ask him the question about the truth thing? No, and you did you ask him the question about the truth thing.

Speaker 1

No, this is a different client. Oh, I know he wants all the truth. Give him all the truth. He doesn't. He's ready for it all. We'll do an episode. We're gonna do an episode on truth and how much you want and what it feels like when you give too much. It feels like too much truth to someone. That's a whole thing.

Speaker 1

I said you have to drop your effing ego, and here's why, from my perspective, what you should do is you should run a free boot camp with anybody that wants to come and just add massive value. Be yourself because you're a great person and people are attracted to that and just add as much value as humanly possible. I'm willing to bet that those people will want to come back for more. I'm also willing to bet that if you do a really good job, some people will just ask you what is it? What do you do? What's your? What are your packages like? Do you do personal training or is there some sort of accountability? Maybe that online component, which he has? All of those and he messaged me back and he's like dude, that's exactly what I needed to eff in here and he was fired up.

Speaker 1

Now, on the opposite end, there could possibly be somebody who your ego is holding you back because you're getting taken advantage of, because you're not putting up what you're worth, you're not valuing yourself accurately. Now, this is a challenging episode to do because where you are in your dream chasing journey, your credentials, your experience, the demand you have those are all important factors. This person is somebody who is credentialed. They have a lot of experience. They said to me how do I make money as fast as humanly possible? You give stuff away for free and some people will just be attracted and I think they'll work with you based on the fact that you're good at what you do.

Speaker 1

There might be somebody else out there. The advice they need is you reach out to all the people that you've served before and you tell them your new price and since you've added value to them in the past, I'm sure they'll respond positively. You have people you've helped. That's kind of how I would go. But when I'm saying the two ways your ego holds you back, one you're either overvaluing yourself, which is holding you back from opportunity, practice and mastery, or you're undervaluing yourself, which is probably holding you back from building self-worth. If you always feel like you're being taken advantage of, you probably aren't building self-worth and self-belief. So that's my opening for this.

Speaker 2

I'm trying to think of ways to go with this one that aren't focused on business per se. It is tough, it is tough with this.

Speaker 1

Well, even if we were to do a relationship, there was someone in the past that you and I knew that essentially said they weren't going to settle for somebody, any less than a person that you and I knew.

Speaker 2

I think they said I'm not going to settle for anyone less than you or Kevin.

Speaker 1

Okay Weird to talk about us in that Live on a podcast episode. I know you know what I mean. I'm not saying you shouldn't have said it, but you know what I mean. With all the love in the world, this person, if they were waiting for that forever, would have been in trouble. Not because they weren't wonderful, not because they weren't intrinsically valuable, none of that. They just hadn't put that amount of work into themselves. Yet, just like we talked about recently, especially in relationships, it's not about what you can attract, it's what you can attract and sustain. That second thing is the kicker, that's the big one. That person, if they were over with their expectations of what they can attract, they might be lonely forever. But you and I have also known magnificently wonderful people who have done a ton of work on themselves, who were convinced they could never attract a high-quality partner and unfortunately settled for garbage relationships. So that's an example.

Speaker 2

There's such a strong, powerful pause there. I thought you were done. There's such a conundrum here. There is such a conundrum here.

Speaker 1

Alan is about to have a mental breakdown here On a Saturday morning, saturday morning. This episode is dropping on Saturday. It's the future. It's bright, the future is bright. I've seen it, okay.

Speaker 2

I've seen it.

Speaker 2

I've seen it. Okay, this is the conundrum. Okay, everyone who's a long-term listener to this show has heard me do this metaphor a thousand times, 36 in November 3.6. Allen 3.6. Allen 3.6 is capable of attracting and charging a different level than Allen 3.5, than Allen 3.4. Okay, so here's the conundrum. On one hand, you are worth a certain amount at a certain point in time. On the other hand, that worth increases or decreases over time depending on the context. So, for example, allen 3.6 as a fitness model is significantly worth less than Allen 2.9 when I was in the best shape of my life, than Alan 2.9 when I was in the best shape of my life. So not only is worth completely contextual and not only is everyone intrinsically worthy spiritually. However, in the economy and in the context it changes basically every single day. So, for example, if there is a woman out there whoically really likes blondes who are tall, I'm going to be worth more to them than Kevin If they like someone who has really really big arms, like Kevin there, he is, right there and love tattoos.

Speaker 1

You're looking for a meatball with tattoos. I'm your man, I'm married.

Speaker 2

But I'm your man, exactly. And so this is all of us have to figure out where we fit, and the metaphor here is picture the best NBA player swimming and then Michael Phelps playing in the NBA. Whatever. All value is contextual. All of it Always in in the tangible world. Okay, I tell this story about Emilie and I climbing Mount Wachusett one time and we forgot waters and we were dehydrated as hell and I said I would pay someone 50 bucks for a water right now. That's how thirsty I am and I had. This moment of value is contextual. A water bottle is worth I don't know $1.05. When you're in a convenience store with a bunch of other options like Coca-Cola or Sprite or whatever In abundance, it's worth a lot. But a water in the desert when you're starving or dying of dehydration is worth $1. All the money you have Worth and value is so contextual it's so hard to explain and that's why I was scared to do this episode.

Speaker 2

So two sides of ego. One you overvalue yourself. Two you undervalue yourself. What is the optimal value of next level university? What is the optimal value of my business coaching? What is the optimal value of my business coaching? What is the optimal value of your podcast coaching.

Speaker 2

It depends on the person. It depends on their goals. It depends on their perception of us. It depends on where you and I are at in our journey. It depends on how much experience we've accumulated. It really does depend, and this is why it gets so messed up in the marketplace, because there are some people I know that are not that valuable at all that are being paid a lot. There are some people I know that are not that valuable at all that are being paid a lot. There are some people that are valued a ton that are paid very little.

Speaker 2

But it really does depend on a couple factors that we teach in group coaching, which is number one how difficult would it be to replace you? Number two, how good are you at what you do statistically compared to others? And number three is how needed is what you do in the world? So how needed is podcasting to a podcaster? How needed is what you do in the world? So how needed is podcasting to a podcaster? How needed is growing the show? How good are you at it, kev, compared to other podcast coaches? And all of that is based on their perception too, so it gets really wonky, but ultimately, everyone out there right now to make this practical?

Speaker 2

Are you overvaluing yourself and therefore not getting enough opportunities? I know multimillionaires who still do things for free to show the value. You and I, when we were growing up, we had a place called the Providence Place Mall and Emerald Mall. You remember the Emerald Mall? Of course Umi Chicken. You remember Umi Chicken? I don't remember Umi Chicken, no, all right. So the food court at the Emerald Mall was awesome, especially back in the early 2000s, especially back in the you know early 2000s, and we would go to the mall.

Speaker 1

That used to be a thing for the, for the youngsters go to the mall. Maybe that still is, I don't know. I was talking to a 24 year old gentleman the other day and I said remember aol instant messenger, remember aim? And he looked at me weird and he's like yeah, yeah, I do. And I was like how old are you again? And he's like I'm 24. And I said you just lied to me, you just lied straight to my face. You have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm old, I'm an older man now. It was wild.

Speaker 2

Sorry to interrupt you aol instant messenger. Yeah, good times, man gts. Okay. So emerald mall, kevin and I used to go. There's a place called umi and they have this awesome food and they would give samples of umi chicken and every time they got me they're hey, hey, you want some free chicken? Yes, 100, give me them, give me several toothpicks, let's do it. And then I always ended up getting umi. That's exactly how businesses run. That's why google is free until you pay for it. That's why movies have previews. I really I gotta say this the whole over inflate your value, charge what you're worth thing, I get it, I do. It's a mistake in business, unless you gotta set it up for both one. It's a taste test. On one extreme, you give everything away for free forever. On the other extreme, you are only worth a certain amount and you never stray from that, and neither one makes sense, and in a business you have to do both. So I tried not to make it business.

Speaker 1

I knew you were going to go business, and that's okay. I had to man. This is my thought. It also depends on what your goal is. So, okay, if you believe you are capable of attracting and sustaining a relationship with the most, the mirror image of you as the most amazing human walking the planet, awesome, are you willing to wait for as long as it takes to find that person? Because, if not, that's a different conversation. How important is family to you? Now, that's a different conversation. If this person said to me well, I want to make money in five years, that wouldn't have been the advice I would have given.

Speaker 1

It would have been different. Actually, advice I would have given. Yeah, it would have been different. I said like actually I probably would have given the same advice, honestly, but it doesn't have to be it doesn't necessarily have to be the exact same advice no, it wouldn't be the same well, the boot camp thing is very smart I think that's really smart. It would have been free boot camp, yeah, and then from there maybe it changes well, if you're out there watching or listening to this, think about it.

Speaker 2

Nlu is free. We can't keep growing this podcast without ever making money. So let's say there's 100,000 people who listen, 10,000 of them are podcasters Again, I'm just making numbers up here and of those 10,000 podcasters, 1,000 of them eventually work with us. That's how it works. And I wonder and again, I know I'm making this a little bit business, but a lot of people out there dream chasers. You want to turn your passion to purpose and to profit. So let me just kind of go off here for a second. Go off. You have to put yourself out into the world for free in order for the right people to find you, and this podcast is free. If we charged for this podcast, we wouldn't have a million listens and we would never have made a million dollars. We only were able to do that by adding free value and building relationships with listeners and caring about you and your growth. And some of you are podcasters who need help with production or coaching. Some of you are business owners who need to learn how to build a business. That's great, and for some of you you never will. That's okay. You still.

Building relationships and adding free value

Speaker 2

Everyone who listens to this show most likely is into self-improvement and has goals and dreams. Okay, that's layer one. Layer two is okay. I want a podcast and I want to build my own community as well Okay. Layer two is okay. I want a podcast and I want to build my own community as well Okay. Layer two is I actually have a business. I need to generate revenue, otherwise I'm going to go out of business like Kevin and Alan. So that's the layer.

Speaker 1

Wait, we're going out of business.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, but we would have if we didn't learn how to make money. Make sure I didn't miss something.

Speaker 2

No, we were podcas. And so we, what did we do? We coached for free, and then the umi chicken was so delicious that those people were willing to coach with us. Uh, for paid. I think we started with 50 bucks a week and then it was 75 and then we went up from there.

Speaker 2

But ultimately you have to give people certainty and I told kev I was going to share this quickly. So there's four things that need to happen prior to and he's the chief sales officer, so he knows this there's four things before anyone makes a decision. Kevin one time told me Oppenheimer was a great movie and I went to go watch it. Here's why you have to be certain about four things. Before you take an action, particularly with a business, you have to be certain I'm going to use NLU as an example Okay, so let's say, you do business coaching with me, forget about Oppenheimer.

Speaker 2

Okay, you need to be certain about me as a person. You need to trust me. Number two, you have to be certain about next level university as a company and as a brand. Number three, you have to be certain about the service. You need to understand what the service actually is Metrics, habits, goals, identity. Is this going to work or not. And then number three you have to be certain it'll be worth the price. So if you're not certain, it'll be worth the price. That's why I do a free session, so that you go whoa, I need this. This is going to change my life.

Speaker 2

If I could guarantee you with a very high percent certainty that I will help you achieve all your goals and dreams, why wouldn't you work with me? You're just uncertain. You don't know if you trust me. You don't know if you trust the product or service. You don't know if you trust the brand. And that's why you and I have to be consistent, because we have to prove ourselves. That's why everyone buys AirPods.

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Speaker 2

Apple has proven itself for 48 years. Apple has proven itself. That's why everyone has a favorite actor or actress. They've proven themselves and that's why everyone has a favorite actor or actress. They've proven themselves and that's why you know certain actors and actresses that have a 30-year career get paid more for big-budget films than brand-new actors, because brand-new actors they're really taking a chance. Nlu, listener, what is happening? I just wanted to jump in here and let you know if you want to get to the next level faster. We have a free virtual monthly meetup at the first Thursday of every month, you can connect with like-minded people and become a bigger part of this amazing global community. The link to register will be in the show notes.

Speaker 1

Well, even one of the more famous cases of this, I believe. Jonah Hill took $50,000 to be in Wolf of Wall Street.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Because he understood. Number one this is going to be a huge movie. Number two Scorsese's directing it. Number three Leonardo DiCaprio is the main actor and the opportunity here is massive. Imagine if he turned that down and said well, excuse me, that was just in Moneyball or whatever. I don't know what his movie before that was.

Speaker 2

I don't know if you know, but I was in Superbad I paid a cool 2.5 mil, so I was really hoping.

Speaker 1

Adios, jonah, on to the next one, we'll find someone else. Thank you 100%. Best of luck moving forward. Maybe we'll see you in the sequel, but it's hard. That's why it's really hard. If you have low self-worth as a dream chaser, or if you have delusionally low or delusionally high self-worth, it Jeffs things, messes everything up. It can mess everything up because then you say you know what, well, that person just wasn't right for me because they didn't want to pay $5,000. And then that becomes the thing. Well, here's a good question Would you pay $5,000 for what you do? Would you pay someone to do what you do for $5,000? Because, if not, that's something that's a great question. Hold on, I would pay somebody $147 for business coaching if I knew that they knew what they were doing. I would pay $147 to ask somebody about podcasting if I truly believed they knew what they were doing 100%, I would not pay $1,500. That's why my prices are not $1,500.

Speaker 2

Especially if you're uncertain, especially if you barely know them, and I want to help more people.

Speaker 1

Most people can't afford. What percentage of podcasts is going to afford a $1,500 coaching call? 1% of 1%, of 1% of 1%, that's the other thing.

Speaker 2

Let's touch the numbers on that. 1,500 times. Let's say you do what once a month? Yeah, let's say 1,500 times 12. That's $1,000 a year for coaching.

Speaker 2

Now one day will that happen? Who knows, for coaching Now, one day will that happen? Who knows? And honestly, probably not. It probably will way, way, way later. But at the end of the day, here's the deal. You can't sustain that I pay out of pocket for therapy. If it was outrageous, I could never do it. Not that I couldn't do it, but I wouldn't do it. I'm so passionate about this dude. You can't charge 50 Gs to go to the movies. No, you and I were at a business seminar one time. That was so hot garbage. They said just add a zero. Okay, my iPhone cost me what? 50 bucks a month, something like that. Okay, if it was 500 a month, I would go buy an android. I just would. Yeah, your bmw. Let's say it was 70 g's a month. Okay, can't do it right, it's 700 a month. Yeah, there's no way. Add a zero. What?

Speaker 1

a dumb piece of advice. I there was a young lady there who had never coached before. She was a new entrepreneur, new dream chaser doing her thing and after that portion of the seminar I took her outside. I went outside with her. Take her outside.

Speaker 2

I went outside with her.

Speaker 1

And I said I know what you're thinking. Don't fucking do it. I'm telling you don't do it. I know it sounds awesome, I actually coached her.

Speaker 2

I'm telling you, don't do it. I know it sounds awesome. I actually coached her. I coached her for a short time.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure she was horribly misled.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm pretty sure she went out of business. She did go out of business. I'm pretty sure she went out of business.

Speaker 1

She did go out of business, Unfortunately, because you can't do that in the beginning, it doesn't well. Have you ever thought of just raising your prices? Some people, that's true. If you've been doing it for 30 years and you're charging $19 for a call, okay, that's different At a zero.

Speaker 1

In that case at a zero. I said this to a client the other day. I said this to a client the other day because she's struggling financially and she said it's going to be ten thousand dollars. So I want to write a book. And I said, all right, cool, it's gonna be ten thousand dollars all in, I have to pay three thirty three hundred dollars a month for the next three months if I want to do it. And I said, okay, what if you don't make the money back? Though, let's talk about, let's have a conversation about this. And she said, yeah, there's a piece of me that just kind of wants to risk it. And I said permission to ask you a frank question. You and I have a really good relationship. I feel safe doing this. Is that because you don't want to do the thing that got you here in the first place that you stopped doing? You're afraid you're gonna? Yeah, you gotta go back to that, kevin.

Speaker 2

You and I you just called me Kevin. I did, yeah, you and I did dude, we, we, we lost sight of what we did in the beginning A little bit Less than most, less than most. Yeah, yeah, that's fair and those are the tried and true fundamentals that work, that will always work.

Speaker 2

You always used Me. I think it's cocky, dude, I do. I think it's cocky to think you should just add a zero, or just I do. I feel like it's. I have to be willing to work hard in the beginning to master your craft and to generate leads and to build relationships with people who need your products and services, and you're not going to be able to. The iPhone is what? If you buy it retail, it's what? Twelve hundred bucks or something like that, but it took 48 years for apple to develop a phone. That's that valuable. And, by the way, if they charge 12 grand, everyone would go to android everyone. Half the population goes to android anyway. How much are?

Speaker 1

android phones. This at the same price.

Speaker 2

Android phones are probably a little cheaper than the iphone. I think yeah, um, and I'm not sure it depends on the phone, obviously. But the point is is that you can't charge $50,000 for a concert, right? Maybe for the Super Bowl you can charge $10,000. But you can't charge $10,000 for a preseason game. I just really the value and the price have to be aligned and it's very hard to align them. So if anyone wants help with this, please reach out. But this gets us fired up because Kevin and I have watched too many people be misled.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it sucks, it sucks. I had a call with someone the other day and we'll go into this more, but they got invited to something and it's very expensive to go there and do the thing and the first person the first thing the person that's hosting it said is oh, this, you need to raise the prices. This person needs to raise the. They've never done coaching before. You're setting them up for failure. You're quite literally you're setting them up for failure. The reason I think free is so valuable in the beginning is because it takes the pressure off. Alan, imagine, every time we did one of these episodes we were getting paid $50,000. It probably wouldn't affect you that much, but I would be thinking everything I say would be different. I would be overthinking everything. I wouldn't be myself as much did I say the F word in the last episode. I'm going to make sure I we've got to cut that out because the sponsors aren't going to like that. It wouldn't be the same. It couldn't be the same.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it couldn't be. It's like an actor or an actress it's their very first feature film and they want $20 million. It just doesn't make any sense, right? Tom Cruise? And again, don't associate me with Tom Cruise, my point is Leonardo DiCaprio, whoever. They've been doing it for 40 years so they get paid more. Imagine a lawyer, very first court case, and they're like yeah, for me it's going to be $2,500 an hour, I'm going to need 10 Gs up front. It's like, dude, you haven't ever won a case ever.

Speaker 1

And I'm going to put my life in your hands in a way. That was you in high school. You showed up with a full suit on, I'm sure, your bills you're probably looking five, six, seven hundred an hour. You lost your first case. That was it. You retired. You've got to provide context for that Couldn't hang.

Speaker 2

I was on the jury of a mock court case that I lost.

Speaker 1

Somehow, I ended up in a law class in high school which may the wildest thing out of all this and that was one of my favorite classes of all time, and we had a mock court case and Alan was the defense.

Speaker 2

I was a try hard.

Speaker 1

And my best friend at the time was on the prosecution and I was the foreman for the jury.

Speaker 2

So I'll let you guess what happened.

Speaker 1

You showed up in a full suit. What are you doing? I'm a professional. Throw on some khakis or something. You showed up in a full suit. What are you doing? I'm a professional.

Speaker 2

Throw on some khakis or something you throw you show up in a full suit. What do you?

Speaker 1

I'm already a show called suits yeah, now I, now I resonate with them. But you gotta know, hey, first rule, jury selection. Gotta know who the jury is. Everybody knows that. Yeah, everybody knows this is.

Speaker 2

I've been learning how you know. I've been learning about people ever since Okay.

Speaker 1

Yes, yes, this is somewhat relevant to you. I believe you enjoyed the movie the Lincoln Lawyer. It was fascinating as hell. Yeah, for sure. There is a series on Netflix the Lincoln Lawyer. It's not Matthew McConaughey, it's a different guy. Yeah, I do know that it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I do know that it's really good, I'm not as into series as I am movies.

Speaker 1

I do think that's where the industry is going.

Speaker 2

Movies. I like film dude. I'm old school with that.

Speaker 1

I don't like series as much. I have commitment issues with content. I'm telling you right now that's what it is. I'm not willing to sit through two hours. I want to do 30 and then another arc.

Speaker 2

That's all it is it takes too long the arc build up. I'm old school with that, it's all good, but I also do like films that have so, for example, trilogies. I'm a big fan of trilogies I mean you for if the movie is good enough. You love the dark knight trilogy and that kind of thing yeah, but I'll sit down to watch it.

Speaker 1

I watch 15 minutes like can't do this it it's, it's going two hours and 30 minutes.

Speaker 2

That's where the industry is going is. I I really believe series is where the whole industry is going. I actually am coaching a guy from netflix and disney plus disney plus disney the company uh, they, they both worked there for 15 plus years netflix and disney and I'm coaching them next week. I'm super excited to pick their brains on stuff.

Speaker 1

I'm sure they'll love that hey, welcome, welcome to the coaching call 15. I need at least 15 to pick your brains about netflix and disney, and then we can get to the value it'll be fun, it'll end up in a half hour, but I'm gonna charge you guys three thousand dollars yeah, also this will be.

Speaker 2

This will be three million three and a half mil for this.

Speaker 1

I need an introduction.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna need you to tell me about your careers.

Speaker 1

All right, we're gonna get out of here Because Alan's fired up. Understandably, this does fire us up. I just want to see people win and I'm telling you there's a lot of people setting other people up for failure.

Speaker 2

We don't like that. That's a fact. That is a fact. We don't like that. I want you to win.

Speaker 1

I can't stand it and we started coaching for free. I still do free shit all the time. I love free. I have done 420 free podcast breakthrough sessions.

Speaker 2

I have done 262 free breakthrough sessions.

Speaker 1

It's a lot of time, it's a lot of hours.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but and that's why I'm so grateful to have 26 clients- Right right, that's a piece of it piece right and they all started with a free breakthrough session. So I'm I just. If you're out there and you want to turn your passion into purpose, into profit, and you want to chase your dreams, you're going to have to learn either the hard way or or you know. I just really hope that we can help you avoid some of the pitfalls that a lot of people fall into 100, all right, next level nation.

Speaker 1

If you have not yet gotten your Dreamliner, your next level Dreamliner, I have mine here. I've used it every single day so far. So I think it's 24 days, 25 days, huge fan Love it. It's on Amazon. It's honestly again, I'm not just saying this. We have an app. Our app sucks. So I'm not just saying it because and nothing against anybody that worked on the app it's just it's very expensive to get an app up and running and consistent and on the app store, it's just, there's a lot of money involved. I use this every day. It's awesome. I'm excited to use it every day. You can see that I write in it every day, so I do not talk about things I don't believe in. That's why you never hear me talk about show notes. It's awesome.

Speaker 2

If you're on YouTube, you can see me pointing at the little star on the top of the mountain. That's you. That's Kev. He's a rising star.

Speaker 1

That could be you, as well, you're a rising right now. If you're out there, you're a rising star, rising star.

Speaker 2

All right, I desperately have to use the bathroom. So what am I plugging If, if you want coaching, the first session is free and no strings attached, you don't have to sign up. There's no contract, nothing. Just sign up, give it a taste test, see if you like it, see if it's for you, and it might change your life. One courageous moment can change your entire life.

Speaker 1

One piece of chicken can lead you to get all of the chickens that's.

Speaker 2

Yeah, have you ever had Umi chicken? I don't think so. No, from Emerald.

Speaker 1

Mall and any of the vegetarian vegans out there. One vegan dish. I don't know what a vegan tofu tofu's vegan right. I don't know enough about it, but for any of you out there that resonate with that same thing, that's why they do that. So you go to the supermarket here. Let me get a little taste of it. Oh my God, this is the best thing I've had in my life. How do I acquire a box?

Speaker 2

We have a stack of them right here. I'll have eight. Give me eight of them. I'll have eight boxes right now. Eight of boxes, eight of boxes and you eat the box I'm in, I'll have all of them.

Outro

Speaker 1

I want all of them. In fact, I'm going to take your spot and I'm going to work here selling them. All right. Next Level Nation, as always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you. And at NLU, we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow. Please reach out, thanks. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Speaker 2

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Speaker 1

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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