Saying Your Dreams Out Loud Is Scary AF (1877)

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Show notes:
(2:21) Dealing with doubt
(5:35) Sharing dreams with the right people
(8:08) What are your dreams?
(13:50) Why do people hold back from sharing big dreams?
(17:52) Next Level Dreamliner: the planner, agenda, journal, and habit tracker to rule them all. Get a copy: https://a.co/d/9fPpxEt
(24:31) Handling doubt from others without self-sabotage
(28:36) Finding a community
(34:53) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin 0:00

If you are ready to receive 50% backlash, you can put yourself out there. 50%, that's the best answer I can possibly give, because there will be some people who just crap on your dreams.

Alan 0:17

I do think it used to offend me and bother me when people didn't believe in me, because who are you to tell me what I can and can't do? It doesn't make any sense. But the truth is, I think they're ignorant to what's possible and ignorant to what I'm willing to do to achieve it.

Kevin 0:35

Welcome to Next Level University. I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri.

Alan 0:40

And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.

Kevin 0:43

At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan 0:49

Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health and wealth.

Kevin 0:56

We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness. Topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits and defining your own unique version of success.

Kevin 1:18

Self-improvement in your pocket every day from anywhere, completely free. Welcome to Next Level University. Next Level University Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1,877, saying your dreams out loud is scary as F. I thought I was going to say it, didn't I?

Alan 1:41

Yeah, you thought I was going to say it.

Kevin 1:43

No, I don't want to say it. I don't want to start the episode With a. Did you put F in the title?

Alan 1:47

No no A. F A F, just A F.

Kevin 1:50

No, no, I don't want to, I don't want to risk it, I don't want to say anything too, anything too negative.

Alan 1:54

Well, I thought you might spell EFF. That's what I do. What the F?

Dealing with doubt

Kevin 2:02

I didn't do that. Nope, I just put AF Letter A letter F Absolute Frankie. That's what I did, I did a video one time and I don't know I have no idea if this is where you wanted to go with this episode Actually. No, that's actually the next episode. Don't even worry about it. Pretend.

Kevin 2:21

I even said anything. I remember one time back in the day I was working in New Jersey, I believe at my old job, and I was working with a kid named Bob and I was working in the library with Bob and we were talking about the podcast and I was like dude, this job sucks, man. I hate this job. I don't want to do this anymore. I want to be a podcaster. I had the podcast at this point already and I said I want to do this full time. How do I do this full time? I want to do this full time. And he's like Kev, nobody else is going to be Joe Rogan. He's like you really think you're going to be Joe Rogan? You think you're going to be podcasting full time. And I remember how sad it made me that he doubted what, what I wanted to do.

Alan 3:03

But Bob was the kind of guy that was, was Bob like an anonymous name.

Kevin 3:10

No, that's his actual name. Oh, okay, yeah, that's his actual name. There's a lot of Bobs out there. You know you have to be like some level of detective to figure out who Bob was and if you are shout out to you. But Bob was the kind of person who you'd get drunk with him and he would just be the most truthful. You'd get to see like the real, without ego version of him sometimes. Other times it was like a lot of extra ego. One night we were in the hotel and we had we'd done a little bit of drinking and I was like what do you want to do with your life?

Alan 3:45

what would.

Kevin 3:46

What would you like to do?

Kevin 3:47

it's a great question I want a podcast, I want to do this podcast thing. And you kind of crapped on my dreams, like what are your dreams? And he's like dude, I want to work for myself. I don't want to do this anymore either. I want to work for myself. And I remember that night he was I don't want to say apologetic, but he's's like I know you could do it, man. I believe in you. You could do it. You could really do it. You could really be a podcaster and you could be a business owner and you could do all that. But I remember at the time how scary it was to say out loud that I wanted to be a podcaster, because it does seem wildly unlikely, unlikely. It's a weird dream slash goal to have.

Kevin 4:27

Now things have come full circle where when I go to weddings or when I meet people for the first time with Taryn and somebody says, what do you do I love saying I'm a podcaster, because most people haven't met someone that podcasts full time they say, well, what do you do? That's my job. I'm a podcaster, a business owner, a podcaster entrepreneur. A bit of a mogul, if I may say so myself. But now it's really cool. It's really cool to say that we're going to be a published author. I'm going to be a published author. You ever met an author? I'm going to be one. I'll be one one of these days. But it's really cool. It's really cool.

Kevin 4:59

And I think that maybe you don't tell people until you have enough results where they're not going to laugh at you. I can't guarantee that's going to happen. Maybe you only say it around people who you trust Easier said than done, because it's probably going to come up in the topic of conversation. But what I can say to you is when you do say it to the right person and they're supportive, that feels amazing. And then part two is when you do the thing for long enough, eventually you're super excited to tell people that you took a different path, even though you were laughed at. You were laughed at for taking that path in the beginning.

Alan 5:35

It's a weird thing too, because I've been wondering to myself how important, how important is it to put your dreams out there, how important is it to speak them into the world? Some books tell you don't talk about your goals, because then that gives you the dopamine, as if you've achieved it and then that'll demotivate you to actually achieve it. Then there's other books that say you've got to put yourself out there because then it'll hold you accountable publicly. No one wants to be a hypocrite. There's other people that say you got to put your goals and dreams out there, otherwise it's not real. You got to talk, you talk it and you walk it and you live it, type of thing and I'm honestly not sure remember we did an episode on.

Kevin 6:16

I watched a youtube video that was. It said you should never tell the people around you what your goals are, and the number one reason is because if you do, they're going to shit on you, and I remember we did an episode on that. I was like that's not a goals problem, that's a friend's problem. 100, that's just a bad friend group. That doesn't mean you shouldn't. There's a lot of people out there that would love to hear about your goals, because they're they feel alone too and they're waiting for someone to come up to them and say hey, what are your goals?

Alan 6:38

I have big goals too I was just on with a client and we were talking about how he doesn't have these conversations all the time and I had this moment of gratitude. If I get to have conversations about goals and dreams all the time, sometimes it's exhausting and sometimes I feel like I work on other people's lives, with them more than my own life, but I do. I was on with a brand new client earlier. You know who you are, shout out to you and I thought to myself whoa, kevin and I have constantly surrounded ourselves with people that are heart-driven. But no BS, dream chasers, goals and dreams we get to talk about it all the time.

Alan 7:20

I remember a time when yeah, it would have to be a late night, heart to heart, even you just asking that question hey man, what do you want to do with your life? That is the most important question. That's such an important question. I agree. Dude. Brand new client, onboarded. I love the first onboarding process because we get to ask that question. That's where this episode came up.

What are your dreams?

Alan 7:47

What are your goals and dreams? What is the metaphorical mountain you're trying to climb? This person wants to be an actress. She's already a model. All these different things. Business owner. I love that question. What do you want to do with your life? What do you want to achieve? What are your goals? What are your dreams? What are your dreams, what are your dreams?

Alan 8:08

And when you ask that question, there was someone who was a long-term listener of our show who said the last time that she listened was around episode a thousand. I'm so proud of you guys. You guys are at 2000 now and we she went to book club and then she almost came on a breakthrough session. We're almost, yeah, almost 2000, yeah, and I remember thinking this is so cool that I get to constantly talk to people about their goals and dreams. But the way this episode came up was exactly the opposite of that, which is who out there watching or listening to this feels like they don't get to talk about their goals and dreams, like who out there is scared to share them.

Alan 8:48

There's someone that I'm coaching that is so afraid. She thinks about her goals and dreams all the time behind the scenes but she's scared to talk to other people about them. She's scared to put them out there, and I guess let's just talk about why that is and what kind of courage it takes and vulnerability it takes to do that, and then is it a friend problem? Is it a courage problem? Should you do it on social media? Should you talk about it with close friends and family first? I don't know if I know the right approach around any of this, because I feel like at the beginning of my journey I had vision boards. I know that I still have pictures of them. Some of them are very silly and some of them are achieved and some of them are things that I'm still working toward. But you and I were talking goals and dreams pretty much from when we reconnected to now yeah, well it.

Kevin 9:41

I feel like I wanted to talk about them. I just didn't really have anybody to talk about them with yet. So I think that was a piece of it. And the other thing, too, was it was exciting Like these new ideas and these new hobbies and this new direction. It was exciting to try out different stuff. So it was the whole thing was you would talk about doing something, you would go do the something and the whole ride home you would talk about the thing that you just did and it became this like what was that? What was that experience like? Versus what we thought, oh, interesting, what did you think about this? Yeah, yeah, no, I didn't think that. I thought something else, and it was just this brand new world of new ideas that were super exciting and that felt like living. It's weird, it probably sounds so friggin' dumb, but it was like that was living for the first time. That was doing stuff that was outside of the box for the first time. It was exciting Doing stuff that was outside of the box for the first time. It was exciting, it was real. I was like really invested in what we were doing, because it wasn't just a job that was helping somebody else get rich. It was a passion and I don't know if you can replicate that.

Kevin 10:58

I remember the first time I ever put myself out there, I went out with a group of friends and we went and met these. They were new to me, friends, but the group already had met them and I did like a seminar until two o'clock in the morning about chasing your dreams and dream chasing, and I didn't know much but I was passionate about it and I was super excited and it was the best. It was the absolute best. It was the absolute best, and one of the reasons is I had people in my life who allowed me to talk about it. That was one. This is what I would say.

Kevin 11:35

You said you don't know how much you should put yourself out there. I don't either. I can't claim to know for certain. I believe it has to do with how much feedback you're ready to receive. I think that's the best answer I can possibly give is if you are ready to receive 50% backlash, you can put yourself out there. 50%, that's the best answer I can possibly give, because there will be some people who just crap on your dreams. There will be other people who are super supportive of your dreams. I don't know how to know who you're going to get. I don't know how somebody's going to react. The other thing that's always been very helpful to me is when my mom and grandmother told me to go get a job because they didn't believe I could be successful at podcasting. It wasn't because they didn't believe in me, it was because, one, they were afraid I was going to suffer and I did, and, two, a lot of people put their beliefs on you. Well, do I think that I could do that?

Alan 12:41

I don't think I could do that. How the?

Kevin 12:42

hell is Kev going to do that?

Alan 12:46

I think that's just a normal human reaction. Yeah, the old me would never have agreed with that. I do think it used to offend me and bother me when people didn't believe in me, because who are you to tell me what I can and can't do? It doesn't make any sense. But the truth is, I think they're ignorant to what's possible and ignorant to what I'm willing to do to achieve it.

Why do people hold back from sharing big dreams?

Alan 13:10

This person earlier wants more conversations. She said this. She said there's only a couple people in my life right now that I feel comfortable talking about my dreams with, and I could tell she was reluctant to tell me. When I asked what are your dreams, she was scared to tell me because they're big. They're big, they're as big as they come Not as big as they come, but they're very, very, very big, statistically unbelievably big. And I said I can tell a lot of people. When you share that with other people, I can see that they probably get uncomfortable and it gets uncomfortable, and so you probably don't share this with very many people.

Alan 13:50

She said well, I'm only comfortable sharing it with a couple of people. And then she named those people. One of them is the one that referred her. I said yeah, but you got to understand and she said I'm super comfortable talking to you about it. I said well, that's because I have big dreams too and, by the way, that other person who referred you, she has huge dreams too. So why would we shit on you? We have just as big a dreams, if not bigger. So it's when you're around people who have self-belief, who have goals, who have dreams, who track habits, who care about their future, who want to make the world a better place, who care about self-improvement. I mean, that's what Next Level Nation is. It's a private group where it's bully-free. You get to talk about goals and dreams and growth in a safe environment where you're not going to get crapped on. It's cool to talk about self-improvement and personal growth in Next Level Nation. It's not cool to do that at the bar. No, don't do that.

Kevin 14:46

That ain't the way, because it will. I think, the other. The hardest thing about this whole thing is if you, if you, internalize somebody else's doubt as your own. I think that's why it's so hard. It's so hard to put yourself out there because, okay, what happens? You go out and you meet a group of friends and one person you feel comfortable sharing your dreams with and the four other people you haven't seen in a couple of years, and your friend goes and says hey, just use Kev, kev's doing this new thing, it's super cool, kev tell, tell them it's like no, no, no, I'm good, I don't. I don't really want to tell you, because if you're not into it then it's just going to shut me down for the rest of the time. I'm not going to want to talk to you guys, because now I don't even get to show a piece of who I am to you and then now I know you don't approve of this piece of who I am as a human being and what I want to do in the world. We're not going to be able to spend time together. There's no way.

Kevin 15:46

I think it goes back to the episode we did about Tori Alito's quote, where it was something along the lines of what if one of the reasons you're not setting boundaries is not because of the boundaries themselves, but the truth it will reveal about the people around you? Something like that. If I go to Alan and I say, hey, man, I have this thing that I really want to do, I don't know, something broke free in me and this is what I want to accomplish, and Alan laughs at me we're never going to be the same after that. We couldn't be, unless I suppress these things that I have determined are super important to me, or I sit down with Alan and say hey, man, that was kind of messed up.

Kevin 16:26

I would never crap on you Again.

Alan 16:28

Alan's not a good example, but In the beginning you had no problem telling me about all your goals and dreams. How did you know? This is just a question I want to know the answer to both selfishly, but I also think there's something in it for the listeners. How did you know I wouldn't crap on your dreams? I've never once had someone come to me tell me their goals and dreams and not tried to help them in some way you can tell.

Kevin 16:56

You can tell, you can tell that that excited you. It was different. It was just a different energy and you were already. You were chasing your dreams. You had left your job, you were doing this entrepreneur thing. You were chasing your dreams. So it wasn't. It wasn't like you were going to look down on me for wanting to talk about it.

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Alan 17:20

Dude, what would it be like if you never had someone who you know? I don't think you can. This is my new. Know I don't. I don't think you can. This is my new. I don't think you can achieve your dreams without people who support you, like I didn't start really achieving my dreams to the extent that we are now, until after emilia, it does make a lot of sense. I don't know if you can achieve your goals and dreams without a good support group. I've never said that out loud before. Hello, hello, hello, NLU listener. Thank you, as always, for listening to Next Level University. Real quick, I just want to jump in and let you know about the Next Level Dreamliner. This is a journal that I use every single day. Achieve your dreams 90 days at a time. It breaks down your dreams into goals, milestones and daily habits. We hope you enjoy it. The link will be in the show notes.

Kevin 18:21

It's not just the energetic support, it's the permission you get. I'm planning. I'm Matt's best man. I'm the best man at Matt's wedding. He told two of the other guys in the wedding party that I would probably need help because I'm so overwhelmed with work.

Alan 18:43

Do you know why he said that? I told Emilia that she said oh my goodness, I want friends like that. Do you know why he said that? I told Emilia that she said oh my goodness, I want friends like that.

Kevin 18:48

Do you know why? He said that? Because he's an entrepreneur. He knows, he gets it, he understands, he has seen besides Taryn and Alan, matt has seen more of the behind the scenes than anybody else. I lived with Matt for two or three years at the beginning of this. He saw, he knew exactly what it took. He understands, he knows, he knows what it's like to the degree that he knows, but that's a that's a special thing. Him and I have a very special thing when it comes to that Same with same with you. You and I have a very special thing, but it's that's. The thing is the dream, is the, that's the sexy thing that you put on the wall. Everything underneath that is hey, I'm not going to be able to make it to this, I'm not going to be able to make it to this. I might not be able to make it to this. I am going to have to leave early from this.

Alan 19:42

I might have to move away.

Kevin 19:43

I might have to move away. I'm not going to be home for this holiday. There's just a lot of things that can come with that. I think one of the reasons it's hard to tell people about your goals is sometimes people are going to get less of you and they don't like that, and I'm not making that wrong, understandably. So I don't think I can't imagine I would have lasted in a relationship with most women Genuinely. I cannot imagine that it would. Can you go into that? Just what? Just the? We don't do anything on Saturdays. I work on Saturdays. There is no early days, really Not right now, not in this season of Grind. It's not. Hey, can we get lunch? I have not. I could count on the one hand the amount of times I've eaten lunch with Taryn during the week in the last five years. It never happens. I don't eat lunch. Very rarely do I ever eat lunch, it doesn't it? Just we don't eat breakfast together. I don't have time for that and I won't say I don't have time. That's not the way my day's set up.

Alan 20:57

I don't eat breakfast.

Kevin 20:58

You could make time for that but Eventually I will, but not right now.

Alan 21:05

And it's just that Dream chasing is hard as hell when you asked Bob, what do you want to do with your life? Sorry, what do you want to do with your life? And then he was vulnerable and admitted that he wants to work for himself. Why do you think most people don't admit what they really want? Because I, again, I never want to come off. I'm an engineer. That's my name. I do that on other shows all the time. Now that actually works really well. It's been working super well. I love it.

Alan 21:34

I've I've always sort of had big goals and dreams and I was so naive I just said them almost always. I almost I always said them out loud. I remember I'll never forget this I was at a party once and I was wearing an iRobot shirt because I worked at iRobot at the time and people love robotics shirts at parties and I said, oh, I'm looking forward to when I graduate, I'm going to make six figures. And one of my, one of my friends, one of my acquaintances, friends at the time Literally pulled me aside and said you, you know you're not going to actually be able to do that and I was like, why not? What it's like?

Alan 22:20

He said well, you're not gonna make six figures out of college, like you're not really gonna do that. It's like no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go do that now, like I'm gonna do that for sure. It's not like the first person in the world to do that, you know uh. So I'm gonna do that. Now, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'm gonna do it, but I now he he was just very dickish with that whole thing it's like what, what? Because you can't do't do it. You think I can't, I don't get it.

Kevin 22:47

Because most people don't. I've been telling you this since the beginning. There's a lot of people, some people think about it, some people talk about it, some people act about it, and some people are it. And I think a lot of people just they act about it, and some people are it and I there's just I think a lot of people just they talk about it. It's like, yeah, no, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna. I mean, how many people say yeah, I'm gonna get this membership and I'm gonna lose the weight or whatever?

Kevin 23:17

yeah, let's start that business like I hope. So I do, I hope you do. Bob's not chasing his dreams, not last. Last time I knew Bob reached out to me drunk a couple I don't know, six months ago, and I didn't answer because I'm not, I'm not trying to go back. No, no, no, we're good, we're good, I don't, I'm not, I'm not interested.

Alan 23:39

So when you ask people, or Bob asked you what do you want to do with your life? It's a great question. Great question, people. Why? Why don't people share the truth?

Kevin 23:50

because they probably are afraid they're gonna get shit on.

Alan 23:56

And they're afraid that if they get shit on they won't bounce back from that. It's almost for me. It always just made me angry and driven.

Kevin 24:04

Yeah, but you're so but you're the weirdo, For sure.

Alan 24:07

For sure, I'm not making that. I agree with that and I understand that. It definitely drove me. I had a list of people to prove wrong. I don't have a list anymore, but they're in my head for sure. Yeah, I've got the list.

Kevin 24:19

I'll never know. I think you lose. You feel like you lose support of them. It's almost like, well, I can't talk to you about that anymore.

Alan 24:26

I can't talk to you. What does that mean, though, for the actual goal?

Kevin 24:31

It means you lose. You lose support. Even though you never really had it, but you lose what feels like support.

Alan 24:42

So if you got shit on, it would not drive you, it would shut you down.

Kevin 24:48

No, yeah, you know. No, it doesn't drive me. When people doubt me, I doubt myself more than anybody else on the planet could ever doubt me. I had a.

Alan 24:58

The person I coach tell me I'm so afraid to put my goals and dreams out there because if they doubt me, I already doubt me. So it's going to confirm my doubt.

Kevin 25:07

I resonate with that for sure.

Alan 25:09

So you basically had to cherry pick who you told about your dreams.

Kevin 25:13

Yeah, and then eventually it crossed a chasm. It's like I don't whatever man Good for whatever you do, you, I'll do me Now. What do I say now behind the scenes? Man too good for whatever you do, you, I'll do me now. What do I say now behind the scenes?

Alan 25:24

see, at the top.

Kevin 25:24

Yeah, whatever they don't believe in me, I don't. Whatever we'll see at the top, that's all we'll see at the top.

Alan 25:28

We'll see when you get there and I get there but now but now I have someone of self-belief yeah, exactly.

Alan 25:33

So if this is my conclusion and I know we're gonna jump if you're out there and you have high self-belief really, really, really high self-belief deep down when you're alone, you can tell people and it'll drive you and they will doubt you and it'll drive the hell out of you If you doubt yourself deep down. You got to be real careful who you tell your goals and dreams to and you got to start real small and you got to get create a support group of people that believe in you for sure.

Kevin 26:05

It's almost. It might even be better to go find strangers in this in a similar group, because you know they're all. They all believe in what they're doing. They're probably going to believe in you too.

Alan 26:16

Group coaching is on fire with that it's a lot of podcasters talking about podcasting, and they all believe in each other. It's really cool to see I don't know if I understood how much that matters, because I've been doubted so much.

Kevin 26:28

I just I was so naive, I just told everybody all the time yeah, but that's, I mean, that's your truth, so you could handle getting laughed at, so it doesn't really matter. I don't think you did it wrong. I think think you did it your way. It worked. I don't know if I've ever been laughed at by another podcaster. It makes sense. Yeah, you know what it's like. You know what it's like to want to do this full time. You understand, you understand how the imagination, that moment where you're like if I could do that full time, are you kidding me?

Kevin 27:08

What a world that would be you know what that's like, if anything and it doesn't even have to be podcasting imagine a world where you had full choice what you got to do every day. Now I don't really because we're running a business, but I do I could choose to be less successful right now if I wanted to and work less. I don't want to, because that's not why I started this, but there's something to that. So I think you'd be better off going All right. Last thing before we go, because this, this is very this is like a very hyper conscious episode this is good stuff, man.

Alan 27:45

This reminds me of the old one this is great.

Kevin 27:48

If you have people who are insecure around you, I would be very cautious about telling them your big goals and your big dreams, because they don't. It's not that they don't want to see you shine. They're afraid of what you shining means for them. Yeah, and again, I think it's not that they don't want to see you shine. They're afraid of what you shining means for them.

Kevin 28:04

And again, I think it's just survival self preservation my mom and my grandma didn't want to see me fail. They didn't want to see me suffer. They didn't want to see me broke all of the things that I've done over the last 7 years. They didn't want to see that every time you get a new job or how's business, it's like, yeah, no, we're still struggling, we're riding the struggle bus, but it's better. It's better than it was last time. Well, maybe by a little bit, we're going to be all right.

Finding a community

Alan 28:33

And I just kept saying that what do you?

Kevin 28:36

tell them now Mansions and Benzes better than last time, pretty much, or depending on what the season is. Yeah, you know it's. Maybe it sucks right now, maybe it's brutal, maybe the economy's in a rough place, maybe you know, but that's. I think that's why finding community is so important, because those people already have that in common with you. They already have dreams in common with you. They already have dreams in common with you If you go find a dream chasing group. That's why I think Next Level Nation is so valuable, not just because it's our group, any group that is about dream chasing or entrepreneurship or whatever the thing that you're doing is. But there can't be any toxicity in there. It has to be positive, because all it takes is one bad joke to break someone's belief. One bad joke, one little thing that instills doubt in someone. You don't want to do that, so you've got to find a group of people who aren't going to do that.

Alan 29:36

Son, for anyone who wants to achieve more, shoot for their own next level, shoot for a new goal, new dream takes a lot of courage to put that out there. Just be careful, depending on your level of self-belief I, the person I coached earlier, has a lot of self-belief, I can tell, so I think it might actually drive her to put it out there more. For someone who does struggle with self-doubt, I would say put the small stuff out there, hit it. Put more small stuff out there, hit it now, medium stuff, hit it and and work your way up like a staircase. If you do have a ton of drive and a ton of self-belief and and you really, really, really, uh, believe in yourself a lot, I really do think you can say, hey, I'm going to go be a star, and that can actually drive you to that. For me, it was very. It drove me Very.

Alan 30:35

Last thing, you have to find a support group of people who both challenge you to reach your potential but also support your goals and dreams. It's, it is, it's. I support you, kev, all day, like you told me your dreams and I support your dreams and I believe in your dreams and I believe in you and I also push you and challenge you to step up it's. I joke, I don't know if it ever lands, but I never like tell you a dream and then like go to the beach, I, you. You have to have the accountability piece on the other side. And so, emilia and I, we have goals and dreams together and we believe in each other, but we also do have levels of accountability that we hold each other to same with you and I. Right, it's not.

Kevin 31:28

I'm not saying hey, saying hey we're gonna build a big, successful, positively impactful self-improvement business, and then I am just fluffing darts smoking, darts smoking darts for the.

Alan 31:37

Apparently we got confirmation from our team that that is popular in can apparently. I knew that Smoking darts.

Kevin 31:43

You didn't know that I'm familiar with the Canadian vernacular Because of. I used to watch a show called Trailer Park Boys. I told you that I know, and that's from Canada, oh, the most Canadian, is it? Yeah, it's the most Canadian ever. Yeah, okay, gotcha, I wouldn't, do not watch it around. Children Do not watch it. It's, it's, it's vile. But there was a time I I very much enjoyed that in the past. It's hard to go back now because it's like ah, I can't, I can't, but Is that what?

Alan 32:16

you aspire to in your life? No longer, yeah, no, no longer.

Kevin 32:20

No longer.

Alan 32:20

What do you want to do with your life? That's a good question to ask. Just make sure it's with the right people.

Kevin 32:24

It's a great question. We used to ask that too much. Alan and I would be out to dinner and it's like the waiter or the waitress, it's like you ever thought of your deepest darkest, wildest dreams that you'd like to share with the two strangers that you're serving.

Alan 32:39

Bulls and dreams. Bulls and dreams man. That was awesome. It was awesome. People loved it. Some people loved it.

Kevin 32:43

Some people didn't love it, though More people didn't love it, I would say what did you say?

Alan 32:51

Maybe I was, maybe I was, you were blinded. I don't know, was I blinded?

Kevin 32:54

You were blinded by it. I feel like everybody loved it. Some people loved it. I think it's a sometimes it's a nice little, it's a bright spot.

Alan 33:03

I think it can definitely be a bright spot, an exciting moment in a day if you don't have an answer to that question, I would say check in with it 100, 100.

Kevin 33:13

All right. Next donation I cannot promise you much, but I can promise you that we will be here every single day for the foreseeable future to help you get to the next level of your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Maybe you do not have that community built in yet that you're looking for. This is a great place to start. That's why we do episodes every day, so you are never alone when it comes to dream chasing. So make sure you are subscribed on whatever platform you are watching or listening on, so you never miss an opportunity to get to the next level.

Alan 33:39

And if anyone wants help achieving their dreams, figuring out clarity leads to certainty, leads to action, leads to momentum, leads to results. That's really what I'm trying to do. And then, unfortunately, results leads to less clarity, and so the coaching is to re-inject clarity, re-inject clarity, re-inject clarity. Goals, metrics, habits, skills, identity, work. If you don't, if you feel lost, hopeless, directionless, please reach out. I adore helping people achieve their goals and dreams, and that's what I get to do for a living Dream come true. I've done it several times today. It's been exhausting, but also awesome.

Kevin 34:19

I'm sure it was a deep-seated dream of yours to work with someone like myself and I'm very grateful that I was able to make that dream come true for you. This may be my greatest accomplishment that was my childhood dream.

Alan 34:31

Yes, to work with kevin palmer.

Outro

Kevin 34:34

I many people have had that you were on someone's phone background so I was on somebody's phone background. Yes, it was weird, that was a weird time, but shout out to that person for being an amazing human and a I don't know if they're in the community anymore, but a former community member doing good in the world. All right, as always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at nlu we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.

Alan 35:00

Keep dreaming. Next Level Nation. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family. We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin 35:20

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.