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Show notes:
(2:41) Kevin’s journey toward authenticity
(4:56) The role of humility in self-improvement
(6:50) Credibility in vulnerability
(12:58) Finding humor in imperfections
(14:43) Next Level Dreamliner: the planner, agenda, journal, and habit tracker to rule them all. Get a copy: https://a.co/d/9fPpxEt
(16:27) Comparing oneself to personal potential vs. societal standards
(19:14) Exploring the struggle between being “too much” or “not enough”

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Kevin Palmieri

Would I ever have gotten to the same position I got into without you? No, but would I have ever made it far enough to actually see some level of success? Probably not. So I probably would have ended up one of those statistics if I had to imagine.

Alan Lazaros

If I'm going to be more than then that means that I also have more to contribute. I have more. So, everyone out there, what's your potential? And if you can't see what that potential is, you have to try to work on developing whatever that is. I mean, I think you can see it more than you used to. I just don't know if you know the difference.

Kevin Palmieri

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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Kevin Palmieri

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of next level university, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1882, if you feel comfortable doing this, your self-improvement is working. Alan and I are recording this on 9, 9, 15 on a saturday and I am jazzed. I I was like super excited to record these today, were you really? Yeah, I got up at 6.

Kevin Palmieri

I went to the gym. I did legs. Taryn's gone for the day, so it doesn't. You know, I'm home alone with the cats. Fudge had a hairball and threw up on my bed in the middle of the night, 3.30. Couldn't fall back asleep. I fall back asleep. I thought he was choking so I nearly had a panic attack. Just a giant furball, Shout out to my dude. I know the Kitty Heimlich, I've researched it. Have you really?

Alan Lazaros

100%. That's what Kev does. Every time he has a fear, he researches it.

Kevin Palmieri

If I know how to fix, if I feel like I have some say in the problem, I don't feel like the problem is as bad it's a good episode right there Could be delusional, though.

Alan Lazaros

Speaking of hair, I have a hair, he has a hairball in his eyeball. I'm a mess, everybody, it's all good Messy action.

Kevin’s journey toward authenticity

Kevin Palmieri

First thing Alan said when we logged on. He said I'm cracking like a walnut. I said yeah, no, it's all good. I had a coaching call the other day and essentially what I was talking about was authenticity and I said it's taken me a long time to get to the place where I am today, where I feel like I can really be the most authentic version of myself.

Alan Lazaros

What do?

Kevin Palmieri

you need man. What do you need?

Alan Lazaros

Whenever I am smiling for those of you who are only audio Kev, always can see it and is curious as to why.

Kevin Palmieri

I usually assume I'm doing something wrong. No, that's not the truth.

Alan Lazaros

Naturally I was thinking what if I made a joke and just pretended to fall asleep on the episode? I would literally just take you off the screen and I'd power right on through. This would be a solo episode pretty quick. You'd mute me Give me a second.

Kevin Palmieri

Friends, we're going to get Alan out of the room here. We're going to wheel him out of the room. We'll be right back with you. So I was on a call and I was talking about authenticity and somebody said how have you gotten to the place where you feel like you can be the most authentic version of yourself? And they said what are some measurements that you've gotten there?

Kevin Palmieri

And I said one I'm really focused on improving the pieces of me, not necessarily replacing the pieces of me. That's one. It's self-improvement, not self-replacement, self-improvement, personal development, not personal abandonment. You're not personal abandonment, you're not abandoning yourself, you're leveling yourself up. So that's one. And then I said the second thing, honestly, is I am at the stage now where, if I don't know the answer to something, I just say it and when I'm wrong, I try to admit I was wrong as fast as humanly possible, not just in a relationship, not just with my wife, but with the team, with Alan, with myself. I just feel like if you're really working on your self-improvement and you're getting to the stage where you feel like you can say you know what, alan, you're right, brother, I was wrong on that that means you're maturing as a human. It means you're probably building self-belief. It could take self-belief to admit you're wrong. I think it takes self-belief to have humility. That's a new wrinkle for me. I think it takes a certain amount of self-belief to actually have humility.

Kevin Palmieri

A new wrinkle, a new wrinkle, and I think you're probably also improving your self-worth. So I would say that's a really good measurement for whether or not your self-improvement is working. Obviously, the person that you're taking ownership with and admitting you're wrong to that is obviously important too, but I aspire to get to the place where I can do that with anyone. That's really the goal. Will I always want to do it? I don't know, but that was my thought for today's episode. I think that's a really good measurement because I don't know if maybe we could do an episode in the future that the top five ways to know your self-improvement is working. This would be one that I would add in there, for sure.

Alan Lazaros

I think a lot of the things that we think are cred hits are actually cred builders. So humility, courage, vulnerability are the three things that I think are necessary for transformation. We've talked about that in the past. When people are vulnerable not always, but when you're honest about struggles I think that that's a cred build for most people, not a cred hit. I think a lot of what we think that that's a cred build for most people, not a cred hit. I think a lot of what we think, a lot of what we're afraid of, is not valid. Some of it is. What's a good example of this? So that I'm not just theorizing?

Kevin Palmieri

Theorizing.

Alan Lazaros

So Kev, okay, so if Kev were to make a really dumb business decision, which?

Kevin Palmieri

it never. It's never happened. He's saying hypothetically I've never made one bad wrong business decision which had never.

Alan Lazaros

It's never happened. He's saying hypothetically I've never made one bad, wrong business decision ever, but it's purely hypothetical. So even that picture a version of kev that was so insecure yeah, that he couldn't that, he couldn't actually yeah, like that's funny because it's so because I've made so many right.

Kevin Palmieri

That's why the only reason it's funny is because I've made so many and I know I've made so many Right. That's why the only reason it's funny is because I've made so many and I know I've made so many and I've admitted I've made so many. That's the only reason it's funny.

Alan Lazaros

So insecure younger Kev would be afraid to admit that. That would be a cred hit. For me, someone who can't admit they suck is like such a big cred hit. But I think people think that admitting you suck is a credit and I don't mean you suck as a person when you say credit hit what's your definition of credit hit?

Alan Lazaros

just so people know um, one time someone uh, we both knew who I knew would be a multi-millionaire. Eventually they started investing very young and we calculated the math and with an average rate of return they'd be a multimillionaire. And they drove a Toyota with paint chipping off the car and Kev said most people assume that she's broke. And I said well, the truth is, that's a cred build for me. I'm so impressed to drive a Toyota by choice with paint chipping off it. That's such a big indicator that you're gonna win. Whereas most people would consider that a cred hit, I guess, and that's what you considered it. Maybe, um, you didn't, but in the context of someone who likes nice cars, you understand why people think that. Well, it's been.

Kevin Palmieri

The thought for me is if you're a real estate agent, you pull up in a. If you pull up in a car that's barely running versus somebody who pulls up in a really nice new car, psychologically you're going to most likely work with a person who has the nicer car because it suggests that they know better. Even if they don't, they could have rented that car on the way over to see you, but it's just psychological 100% and I now understand that completely.

Alan Lazaros

I never used to think that because I would always go beneath the iceberg. But I think a cred hit is something that someone's perception of you is decreased, of you is decreased. I take credit hits all the time and I don't know it because you've helped me understand the way that's going to come off. So certain things that I think are. I used to say I want self-improvement to spread, like COVID and Kev said don't say that. And in my head, as an engineer I'm an engineer, it's why wouldn't that? That's perfect, that would be great if that happened. Right, self-improvement 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128. And Kev said well, it comes off as insensitive. And I stopped saying that because now I understand that the principle is the exact same. But anyone who was negatively affected by COVID it seems like I don't care about that. I guess it still doesn't make any sense to me.

Alan Lazaros

But now that I can say I'm an engineer, I can just say stuff like that's cool, because people know like, listen, it's not. Well, you don't mean it in that way. What I could say is I want self-improvement to spread exponentially. But no one knows COVID mean it in that way. What I could say is I want self-improvement to spread exponentially, but no one knows covid they they understand how quickly that spread and how scary that was. I feel like it's something they can relate to, but it's it's a negative experience. So, therefore, people, I was taking a cred hit when I was saying that, so you helped me understand that. And to your point earlier, which I thought was really powerful is what did you say? You improve yourself, don't abandon yourself.

Kevin Palmieri

Yeah, don't abandon yourself, don't. It's self-improvement, not self-abandonment. You're not trading in yourself, you're not. You're just improving the pieces of you that need to be improved, which is a positive thing.

Alan Lazaros

This is a perfect example. I am the type of person who would, who thinks that I do think self-improvement, spreading like COVID, would be a wonderful thing for the world. But am I abandoning myself by adjusting the way I say it? So now the way I say it is, covid spread exponentially. That's why it was so scary. It was 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512. I want that same thing to happen with self-improvement. That's the way I say it now, so it lands better. So it's not just what you say, it's how you say it. It really is alarming. You have to have the right intention, you have to say it in the right way and it has to have the right impact. It's very difficult what we do.

Kevin Palmieri

I think it's underestimated. Being authentic is really hard because if you are going to be you, so okay, let's use my example as an example. Say, I'm on a podcast. I was on a podcast shout out to Philip. Philip has been working with us for I don't know a couple years. Great dude, big podcast, awesome human. And I was on his podcast the other day, yesterday, and there were a couple questions where he asked me and I said, honestly, it's the same answer I just gave you. So it's like kind of the same thing. It's the sexy fundamentals that don't seem like they matter, but they matter a ton.

Kevin Palmieri

The unsexy, the unsexy fundamentals that don't seem to matter but matter a ton. Yeah, thank you. And I was afraid to say that because some of the audience might say, well, kev doesn't know, he doesn't know the answer, that's why he said the same thing. Do you think it's?

Alan Lazaros

it'll be the vast majority, but I think there'll be a couple people who are like he doesn't know, he's soccer mo and I think the more the more aware people in the audience, metaphorically in this, would consider that a cred build, that your perception would go up. I agree, when people take ownership and people admit they don't know and people say it's kind of the same answer to me that's you actually know.

Alan Lazaros

That's really smart actually yeah, because it is the same answer, but I think most people you might be right, a lot, a lot of people not most people, but a lot of people consider that maybe a cred hit we were talking about this with our the meetup.

Finding humor in imperfections

Kevin Palmieri

we did a meetup on thursday and it went really well and we thought we we did a really good job and obviously there's always room for improvement. And in the post call we were talking about how do we think it's a cred build or a cred hit, how honest we are with. One time we did it and there was a spelling error and we literally just laughed at ourselves and said well, that's messy action in real life.

Kevin Palmieri

That's what it looks like. Sometimes we spell shit wrong and we didn't catch it because we didn't have enough time, and that's on us.

Alan Lazaros

We talked about why more people don't do that. Okay, for example, me saying I'm a mess at the beginning of this. Is that a cred hit or a cred build? I'm not actually a mess, I'm just a mess in comparison to Right right, right right. That's one of the problems with this. It's almost like do you have to always err on the high side of perception.

Kevin Palmieri

What an exhausting life. That would be One of the things that I've tried to. I've always tried to make sure. One of the reasons that I've tried to make sure we get off here on time when you have another call is being late is a perception hit Almost every time. When you show up late, you're starting from behind. You just are, so I'm always trying to help you avoid that, for me.

Alan Lazaros

it's not when people are honest that they're struggling. I'm just, it's okay, I understand.

Kevin Palmieri

No one's perfect, yeah, but you're very understanding.

Alan Lazaros

Trying to pretend that you're perfect, I think is the dumbest shit ever. I really do. I think a lot of people are pretending they're hiding. They're hiding the truth. I love working with people who are honest about how much of a mess they are and you know what's ironic and this is a different episode probably the people who say, yeah, I'm a complete disaster. They're actually dialed in. Yeah, usually the people who are pretending to be perfect are usually a disaster.

Kevin Palmieri

Well, just think about the standards. If you have a standard that allows you to think that you're perfect your standard, either you are 1%, of 1%, of 1% of 1%, or your standards are fairly low and easy to hit.

Alan Lazaros

Can we go into that briefly?

Kevin Palmieri

Yeah, I don't know if I have a good example off the top of my head.

Alan Lazaros

Hello, hello, hello, nlu listener. Thank you, as always, for listening to Next Level University. Real quick, I just want to jump in and let you know about the Next Level Dreamliner. This is a journal that I use every single day. Achieve your dreams 90 days at a time. It breaks down your dreams into goals, milestones and daily habits. We hope you enjoy it. The link will be in the show notes.

Alan Lazaros

Amy and I were talking yesterday. Shout out to Amy Lanius. I always want to make sure not everyone knows Amy, right, so Amy Lanius. But I also want to make sure that it's cool that I share this. She doesn't mind. We were talking about.

Alan Lazaros

We are comparing to our potential. So, compared to what I know I'm capable of, I'm a disaster right now, but compared to other like if I actually compared to other people, I'm an engineer this is going to come off probably wrong. If I compare to the statistical norm, I'm the most dialed in. I'm very dialed in, for sure. I don't ever compare to the statistical norm ever, and here's why I want to make this as clear as possible. The goal requires that I don't. If you have goals and dreams that are above the statistical norm, you can't compare to the statistical norm and then feel pumped about it. You have to the higher your goals, the higher your standards have to be. I can't be pumped about decent when I'm going for a goal that is really high, and this goes for health, wealth and love. So everyone out there, a good little subset here is do you compare to your potential or do you compare to average?

Kevin Palmieri

I don't know how somebody accurately knows their potential. I'm very honest when I say I've made it further than I thought.

Alan Lazaros

I'm a better speaker than I thought I would be well, you used to not think much of yourself and much of your potential Fair.

Kevin Palmieri

Okay, what gave you that? What do you think now? What gave you that?

Alan Lazaros

inclination you being honest. My favorite thing about Kev like two things. One came from very, very, very, very, very, very, very humble beginnings. That's all I can say about that. Number two so you made something out of what could have been absolutely nothing. My favorite part Absolutely. And number two is you're just so freaking honest about the stuff. No one talks about.

Kevin Palmieri

I've always thought it's a. I've always thought that it's worth it. I said this very early in the journey. I said I know some of the stuff I say and again, for me it's not like, okay, this is my excuse so I can say toxic stuff. I don't mean it that way. Some people will slap me on one cheek but I do believe there'll be more people that kiss me on the other. I think some people will not like what I say, but I believe what I say will help more people than the people that try to hurt me because of it. That's always been my. I'm always thinking about that. Like, am I scared to say this? And usually I'm not. Usually I'm not scared to say stuff about me Because I just think, I believe that most people aspire to get to the place where they can just be honest about their shortcomings and their insecurities and their fears and their mistakes. I think most people aspire to get to that place.

Alan Lazaros

Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

We just have a lot of practice.

Alan Lazaros

It means that you're free from the shame of it. It means you're free from shame essentially, Because when you are afraid. When you're hiding things about yourself, you're usually fearful. There's some form of shame attached to it. Usually, not always, not always Kev would. The old, immature, less mature version of Kev would lower or want to be perceived as more I would like. I genuinely stopped wanting to share the two and a half years of exercise.

Kevin Palmieri

I don't want to share it anymore. Have you noticed? Yeah, for sure, okay.

Exploring the struggle between being “too much” or “not enough”

Alan Lazaros

The reason why is because it disconnects me from other people and I don't like that. But what's I? Paradoxical and ironic, I guess would be the word I think I'm supposed to be. I had person yesterday tell me I don't coach with you because you're regular. I coach with you because you're not. I don't want a regular coach, and I think that my fear is that I'm too different.

Kevin Palmieri

Too much.

Alan Lazaros

Too much, yeah. And so all of us your quote is, all of us are afraid we're either not enough and so we don't want to admit that we're messy and we suck and we blah, blah, blah, or that we're too much. So I have no problem admitting that I suck. What's really hard to say is that I'm brilliant and really dialed in.

Kevin Palmieri

That's even that I couldn't say in the past without shrinking yeah, it's very interesting, you so again, I don't I don't want to make this about me, but we started started down. You said you didn't have. You didn't think of yourself very highly in the beginning Because I said for me I think I've made it further. I've genuinely made it further than I thought I would In terms of all this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know if you had a segment for that.

Alan Lazaros

I just want to make sure we didn't miss anything when you said you don't know, and again, we're going off topic here a little bit, but I think that's important. I've also gotten a ton of feedback lately that people love when we do that. They love the dinosaur thing and all that Nice Cool, which, again, is us being comfortable being ourselves. Right, we don't have to. Oh well, these are the three steps to so. When it comes to me, I always am comparing to my potential, and even that comes off as pretentious. Whatever, that's what I'm doing 24 7, 365. It's really what I help people with to reach their potential. If you don't want to reach your potential, you're probably not going to like me very much. I think people will enjoy me to the extent they want to reach their potential. That's what I've got it boiled down to it's fair um, and probably vice versa, to be, honest.

Alan Lazaros

So it is be who you are. Whatever you are, be a For you. You said I don't know what my potential is.

Kevin Palmieri

I think you do more than you used to. Man, I don't have a very clear picture of it. I almost look at it as like segments. It's like I don't have a very I don't have a very clear picture. I don't have a very clear visualization. I don't have a very clear visualization. I almost think of what it'll feel like more than what it'll be.

Alan Lazaros

So remember when you I forget what book it was, but you said they hooked people up to.

Kevin Palmieri

Hooked people up.

Alan Lazaros

They did fMRI scans of different brains and some people. Yeah, I.

Kevin Palmieri

I don't even remember. I was listening to Blinkist back then. Blinkist breaks books into 15-minute segments. Awesome, Great hack. I have no idea what book it was, but yes, they hooked people up to fMRI machines and they essentially said try to imagine yourself, I think, in five years I think it was 10, but maybe I made that up. I don't remember the exact, but the visualization they had of themselves in the future was a completely different person. It was almost impossible.

Alan Lazaros

But the visualization they had of themselves in the future was a completely different person.

Kevin Palmieri

It was almost impossible for them to imagine themselves however long into the future. Again, I really wish I remembered the book.

Alan Lazaros

I've never remembered the book Because I was just hammering through 15-minute segments of books and I could never figure out which one it was. Do you in the beginning, back then, when this was episode what? 400 or whatever you said I'm? I would be the person who could only envision a stranger. You would be the person who could see yourself in 10 years. Yes, I feel like I can picture it. I can close my eyes. I can see exactly what I'm going to look like now again, it's a future potentiality.

Alan Lazaros

It's not like guaranteed, it's if, if, if, if, if, if. What's a good example. So everyone think about what you're getting for dinner tonight. Okay, that's only going to happen. You're only going to manifest, quote, unquote that if you do, xyz, these things, get in your car, have the right credit card, go to the right place, get the right food order, know how to order, how to get the order right. Know the. Okay, that's the right place, get the right food order, know how to order, how to get the order right. No, okay, that's the exact same principle, just with a bigger time perspective. Yeah, and so I can picture a bunch of future potentialities, I can picture a bunch of versions of myself. And that's why it's so hard to hang out, because I can see my future self getting worse every time I'm hanging out, cause like, for example, this morning. This morning you said dude, you're redlining, you know, do you need a break?

Kevin Palmieri

and it's dude, I can't, I don't know how to explain it, but I trust me, my future self says no, kevin's wrong.

Alan Lazaros

I'm glad I don't have that. Oh it's, it's a, I am.

Kevin Palmieri

It's like I am glad I don't have that but but I know you have some great things.

Alan Lazaros

I know it does come with some great things. You will be more than I will be that's I mean.

Kevin Palmieri

that will come with some great things. I know it does come with some great things. You will be more than I will be.

Alan Lazaros

That's I mean that's cool, which will come with some things that are wonderful and then other things like. But the responsibility piece is yeah, that's why you know, I know we're getting off topic here, but real quick, parents are responsible more than infants, it's. You know, if something bad happens to a three-year-old, it's the parent's fault more than it's the child's fault. Why? Because the parent was more than yeah well, they more to whom much is given, much is tested.

Alan Lazaros

That quote is very powerful. If I'm gonna be more than then, that means that I also have more to contribute. I have more. I have more. So, everyone out there, what's your potential? And if you can't see what that potential is, you have to try to work on developing whatever I have more. So, everyone out there, what's your potential? And if you can't see what that potential is, you have to try to work on developing whatever that is. I mean, I think you can see it more than you used to. I just don't know if you know the difference.

Kevin Palmieri

I think I can feel it more than I used to. For me, it's about experiencing it. When I experience something again, I use the Evan speech a lot because that's like a dream come true. I mean, I get invited to speak by one of the top speakers in our space. It's like weird and it went better than I expected. I can do that now. Done, Now I can do that. What else can you do? The next thing like that that I don't think I can do.

Kevin Palmieri

Most likely, I don't know, I don't know yet. Probably like a speech in front of 5,000 people, like I feel like I'm ready for that. Nice, I feel like I'm ready for that, but then again, who knows what happens right, I go do it. Maybe it goes a little bit worse than I thought, but at least now I have the belief to know, like, eh, it's not the end of the world.

Alan Lazaros

This is where we went wrong. That has to be the fundamental. It's scary to share this, the fundamental reason why I'm different, for sure 100% you, it's I.

Kevin Palmieri

You're somebody who wins at almost everything you do, and it's not just because you have gifts that other people don't, it's just that you just won't stop, like that's just. There's something to that and I had never experienced, I'd never met someone like that until I met you, where it's just like it almost doesn't even matter what happens and we're just going to do it again tomorrow. And you kind of can't lose when you do that for long enough, as long as you're focused on improvement. And that's the differentiator is, I would have quit. I'm telling you I would have quit, most likely because then again, the question is would I ever have gotten to the same position I got into without you? No, but would I have ever made it far enough to actually see some level of success? Probably not. So I probably would have ended up one of those statistics if I had to imagine my thesis is you would have had way more people.

Alan Lazaros

You would have reached a lot more people in a smaller business way. Yeah, yeah yeah, I think that I'm good at business more than I'm good at reaching and talking to people.

Kevin Palmieri

Well, it makes sense, the gifts that you have come with downsides, they come with downsides.

Alan Lazaros

They come with huge downsides, yeah, being unrelatable and not understanding why I come off a certain way. And yeah, yeah, but I'm learning that it's. I feel much better about it than I used to. I used to like why kevin would say dude, that's never gonna land, and I'd be like what, why it's? And then you know you read algorithms to live by and you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

Terrible book, boring as hell, very valuable, super valuable book how many?

Alan Lazaros

And then you read Algorithms to Live by and you're like oh yeah, yeah, okay, terrible book, boring as hell. Very valuable, super valuable, super valuable book. How many?

Kevin Palmieri

books. How many copies? I wonder how many copies of that book was sold.

Alan Lazaros

Probably not that many.

Kevin Palmieri

Not that many Look it up.

Kevin Palmieri

So last thing I'll say before we get out of here no-transcript fulfilled and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Awesome. But Alan is more capable than I am and he has more gifts than I do and he will be more than me and that's okay. Hol holistically he will be more than me. He thinks he's gonna be in better shape than I do. I'm scared because he's kind of reverse engineering it, but I'm hoping my genetics will pay off and the fact that my although my father abandoned me, he had really good genetics and that's something I did get. I never, I never, got the love of my father, but I did get the genetics of him did you find out how many copies it sold.

Kevin Palmieri

We gotta, we gotta pop on out of here said.

Alan Lazaros

while there's no exact public figure for the total number of copies sold for algorithms to live by, it is considered a bestseller, reaching high ranks on sales charts and achieving significant popularity, particularly in the science and technology book categories. However, the precise sales figures remain unavailable.

Kevin Palmieri

Damn Everybody knows that the top charts the bestselling depending on where it is close to nothing, but I'm sure that was like New York Times and the real bestsellers it was a great book.

Kevin Palmieri

It was a great book If you're ready to dive into some material that is boring as hell but hyper-valuable Algorithms to Live by. Again, not the best shining endorsement, but it's super valuable, super valuable book. All right, alan is taking on clients. Still, if you have not experienced a free 30-minute business breakthrough session, we'll have the link in the show notes. It's not you signing up to work with Alan, it's you quite literally saying I'd love to have a 30-minute business breakthrough session, get to know you see what it's like.

Outro

Kevin Palmieri

No matter what you're going to learn something, you will take something away, for certain. I, we're certain, I guarantee that, and Alan's not going to try to sell you anything. If it is aligned and it sounds good, awesome. If not, we appreciate you and you're the best. Still, no matter what, and as always, we have Next Level Nation, a free Facebook group for people trying to get to the next level. So if you listen to this podcast and you're looking for a deeper community, next Level Nation is the place. We'll have the link in the show notes. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we do not have fans, we have family. We'll talk to you all tomorrow.

Alan Lazaros

Keep being authentic Next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri

Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.