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The Biggest Reason People Quit Too Early (1911)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Discover the power of perseverance and the impact of small wins! In this heartfelt episode, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros address the #1 reason people quit too soon. They share real stories, relatable struggles, and actionable steps to help you stay on track. Learn why reflection is crucial, how small daily wins add up, and why patience is your greatest ally in achieving long-term success. Whether you’re building a business, improving yourself, or chasing a dream, this episode delivers relatable advice to keep you moving forward.

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Show notes:
(3:49) Breaking big goals into manageable daily actions
(5:20) Story of hardship and perseverance
(10:44) The importance of perspective and looking back at progress
(13:00) Meet like-minded people and jumpstart your journey to achieving your dreams while optimizing your life. Join Next Level Group Coaching. https://bit.ly/4eE5RF5
(17:02) The compound effect
(24:23) Trusting the process and staying consistent
(25:49) Outro

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Alan Lazaros

that's unreal. However, that took almost eight years. That took almost eight years. So the compound effect is so elusive, because in eight days it doesn't seem like anything is working. In eight years you look back and go whoa, look at what we've accomplished.

Kevin Palmieri

It's just not that many Guys. 150 episodes before I felt at all confident as a podcaster. I can show you the backdrop when we had 100 episodes we didn't know what the hell we were doing. Brutal, and there was less resources back then, but still it wasn't. In the grand scheme of things, I had thought I had been doing it for a long time, but it's not long compared to this. Welcome to Next Level University. I'm your host, kevin Palmieri.

Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today, for episode number 1911, the biggest reason people quit too early, so we're recording this on a Saturday. We had a team call this morning and then I did a lot of work. I did a lot of audio editing and video editing today and I had a lot of conversations with clients, potential clients. It was a really good day. It was a really productive day in many different ways and probably 20 minutes before Alan and I met, I went and sat down for a minute. First time.

Kevin Palmieri

I wasn't doing something all day and I've just been in a reflective mood today. So when I'm in a reflective mood, I go back and look at old content. That's just the thing I do. I do and it's when I'm really high emotionally, really low emotionally, when I feel like I'm the worst, when I feel like I'm the best, whatever it depends. I feel like we have a lot of momentum, I feel really good, I feel really hopeful, I feel really positive and I want to make sure I stay grounded. So I went and looked at old content and it's not hard to get grounded quickly when you look at your old shit content.

Kevin Palmieri

So, for context, the biggest reason people quit too early is very connected and this is my theory, my opinion it's very connected to the episode we talked about, what we did yesterday. I think it's time, because it's very easy to lose sight of how far you've made it, how far you've come, how much you've grown, all of that stuff, and assume that nothing you're doing is working. And I told Alan, I said I think what works best for me is setting the yearly goal, alan helping me set the yearly goal, setting the quarterly goal, having the PPT, the daily habits locked in, and then just focus on winning the day. Because if not, it's very easy to get in your own head of, well, nothing really seems like it's working or we're trying to climb this giant mountain. Just win the day. Just win the day. If you want to sell a thousand cheeseburgers at your cheeseburger stand, you've got to sell 30 times 30, 35. You've got to sell 30 times 30 35. You gotta sell 30 35 a day.

Kevin Palmieri

No, thousand dollar by 365 no, no for per for a month, except a month oh, yeah, then, 30 per day, 35 a day. That's what you focus on selling 35 a day no, probably it's more than that. It's 34. Probably 34 times 30? What's that? 1,020? 1,120?.

Alan Lazaros

Nice job. Yeah, yeah, 33 and a half.

Kevin Palmieri

Double G Doesn't sound Okay. What sounds harder? What sounds harder? 1,000 a month, or 33 and a third a day? And then you break that down. You work an eight-hour day. You're only going to sell four an hour, sell a burger every 15 minutes and your McDonald's before you know it. Or Burger King whatever you prefer.

Story of hardship and perseverance

Kevin Palmieri

Five Guys. Whatever it may be, but I think it's really easy to get lost in how far do we have to make it up this mountain? How far are we from the top? I'm just going to say I have 24 hours tomorrow to climb, more than I did today. That's my thing. So I was going through my old Facebook and my old Instagram posts. The post that I'm going to share with you. I will play it so you'll be able to hear it audio and you'll be able to see it video. I'm going to hold it up to the camera. This was 2015. So this was nine years ago. It's not really 10, because it was November 2015. So it's really just nine, right?

Kevin Palmieri

Okay, at this point I had just had my heart broken. Work was super slow, so my girlfriend and I lived together at the time. She left me and when she left, my bills doubled and I was paying for everything. And she told me, since she broke the lease, she was going to help me pay the bills. So she actually lied to me. I just remembered that and my landlord wanted to take her to court.

Alan Lazaros

Your stories are brutal. He's like hey.

Kevin Palmieri

I'm going to take your girlfriend to court, your ex-girlfriend to court, because she's on the lease, and I said I'll find a way to make this happen. I promise You're never going to, it's going to be fine. I'm going to grind my my face off. We're gonna be okay. So just lonely, living by myself, sad, definitely, dealing with a mild eating disorder after my bodybuilding show. Brutal, this is a brutal time in my life.

Alan Lazaros

I'm going to play this good, I remember when you this is around the same time when you and I first started hanging out again long before we worked together. Yes, yes, and I remember you said I'm having trouble tying my shoes, uh, no, I wasn't. No, I wasn't fat yet okay, how long did it take, after your bodybuilding show, for you to say I'm having trouble tying my own shoes? Oh, oh, man, because my first bodybuilding show you came to and you were thick, three weeksed, three weeks probably, hammering donuts on the rig.

Kevin Palmieri

I went to. So after my bodybuilding show, shortly thereafter, I went, I think I was working in New Jersey and we went to breakfast one day because we were working second shift and I literally said to them I said I'll do the waffles and the pancakes, of course, obviously. My only question said I'll do the waffles and the pancakes, of course, obviously. My only question is you do ice cream Sundays this early, or is that something I can't do? And I got an ice cream Sunday and I put it on my waffles and my pancakes and after that, after work that day, I couldn't button my pants. I had to go lay down in the hotel before we went to work. It was bad and I couldn't stop. Something happens when you diet down for so long. It messes with your hormones, and one of your hormones I think it's leptin or grelment one of them, the one that signals that you're full gets all jeffed Leptin. Yeah, it was bad. So this was me dipping my toe into the self-improvement space. Okay, all right, here we go.

Alan Lazaros

For anyone who did listen to the last episode, and if you haven't, I highly recommend it because this is a good in tandem episode to that. I do have the stats up in terms of the financial calculator because I want to show, let's say, kevin improved by 0.1 per day for you said nine years nine years baby okay. So let's say 3 285 days, nine years, okay.

Kevin Palmieri

All right, oh, you're going to say it after. Yeah, all right, here we go. It's going to be hard to do because it's on my phone. All right, hold on, here we go. Oh, my goodness gracious.

The importance of perspective and looking back at progress

Kevin Palmieri

There's a quote that says life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it. You can either sit around and pout about it all day, say it won't ever get better, or you can deal with it and make it get better. What are you waiting for? Do it? Heavy boston accent on the kid never wasn't born in boston, outside of boston, but not close enough where I should ever have any level of a boston accent. I when, when alan and I logged on to record this episode, I said dude, I got something for you. I said I got something for your ass is what I said. I got something for you. And he's like okay. And I said trust me, I'm going to show you something and it's going to alarm you. And there's two sides of it. One, that old version of Kev feels like a completely different person and it feels like that was a hundred years ago. There's also a weird piece of me that feels like that was a hundred years ago. There's also a weird piece of me that feels like that was yesterday and that's the duality of it is that version of kev had no idea what life would be like today. Not a clue. If you told him, he wouldn't have believed it. There's no way I ever thought I'd be capable of doing most of the things that I do on a daily basis. And also, there's no reason I can't work like I've worked for those 10 years, for another 10 years. It's the weird duality of, if anything, life is getting better, harder in many ways Privilege, pressure, responsibility, all that stuff but I can pay my bills now, which we've had points where I couldn't do that. My wife's a ride or die, she's down for it, whatever that looks like the most supportive. So it's this weird thing, but I can understand why somebody at that point would try something for a year, recognize almost what seems like no difference. And there isn't any difference unless you go look back, because I said this on a podcast the other day. I said this is going to be very philosophical, and I don't know if it's correct or not, but let's ride with it for a minute. To be very philosophical, and I don't know if it's correct or not, but let's ride with it for a minute.

Kevin Palmieri

The only way to find perspective is to have a start point and an end point. How do you find, how do you find perspective if you don't have two, if you don't have a point to compare your point to. That's why I think, looking back I know I talk about it, I know you're probably sick of me talking about perspective and how I go back and look it's one of the most valuable habits I have because it's a gentle reminder of Kev. I know you think you suck and you do compared to what you need to do. In a kind way I'm not beating myself up, but, brother, that version of Kev was a child compared to you today, and Alan said this today, he's like dude, imagine another 10. No, I can't. I can't imagine another 10 because I couldn't imagine that 10 and this 10 is going to be bigger than the other 10 because of the compound. No, I can't, I just know it's going to be. That's awesome. It's going to be a lot to get there and it's going to be stressful and it's going to be rewarding and it's going to be fulfilling and it's going to be this and this and trying and testing. Last thing, before I kick it to you, because I know you really want to talk about your financial calculator the jeff 3000. The jeff 3000.

Kevin Palmieri

I guess this episode for me, my, my goal in this episode is for it to be more of a motivational, inspirational just from the place of if you don't feel like anything is working, I feel you, I feel you. But when's the last time you looked back to when nothing really was working? And then, when you look back to that, then look even further and then I'm willing to bet you didn't think anything was working then either, and if you've made progress, that is a suggestion that you were doing something correct. And then it's the same conversation. Also in that post I was jacked and I don't look like that anymore. You were super lean.

Alan Lazaros

Super lean. You have way more muscle mass now, but you were really lean.

Kevin Palmieri

It's so hard to know. Okay, that's a gentle reminder, a gentle kick in the butt of Kev. All right, cool, you've been doing this fitness thing, you're back. We got to keep it dialed in, man, because I was lifting. I mean, I had a lot more time right Than I do today. But that's a subtle reminder and that's perspective too. So end rant there.

Kevin Palmieri

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Alan Lazaros

This is actually why Emil and I celebrated a thousand days of consistent exercise. This is the reason underneath that is. I just want that to be taken care of. 0.1% per day can change everything. It doesn't change anything in nine days, but in nine years that's the hard thing.

Alan Lazaros

It's like change everything, it doesn't change anything in nine days, but in nine years. That's the hard thing. It's like change everything, it doesn't change anything in nine days. That's the problem. That's the problem with the math of the compound effect, is it? It's unnoticeable in nine days. You can crush it for nine days and you'll notice literally nothing.

Kevin Palmieri

We, we did that in nine years, it'll transform your whole world we were talking sorry to interrupt you. We were talking in group 16 about podcasting. Yeah, I don't know if this was this might have been the off call. I don't know if it was the connection call and I said I know this is going to sound very harsh, I don't mean it that way. I love the fact that you've done 52 episodes. That's amazing. You've made it more than you've made it further than 99.9% of podcasters do. But 52 episodes is really only 52 reps spread over a year. It's just not that many Guys.

Kevin Palmieri

150 episodes before I felt at all confident as a podcaster. I can show you the backdrop when we had 100 episodes we didn't know what the hell we were doing. No, the backdrop was brutal, brutal and there was less resources back then, but still it wasn't in the grand scheme of things. I had thought I had been doing it for a long time, but it's not long compared to this grand scheme of things. I had thought I had been doing it for a long time, but it's not long compared to this.

Alan Lazaros

So, all right, I'll stop interrupting. I'm sorry, no, no, no, this is unbelievable. I was on a walk with Emilia last night, under the stars, and we were reflecting back. It was our five-year anniversary in October and every anniversary we watched the videos and the audios and the pictures from the first year we ever got together. I saved every audio, every video, every text not every text every audio and video from the first year of our relationship and every year we we this year, we actually put it up on the projector, on the big screen, and we were snugging in the on the couch by the fire, and just looking at the old number one, I was way more jacked.

Alan Lazaros

What in the hell, holy crap. Number two child in comparison, just just the compound effect. It's not. I was, and here's the wild thing I was already on the higher end of of a lot of things. So that, kevin, how old were you? 26, 26, 26. So kevin was 26. Compared to other 26 year olds, you weren't that far behind. What's your truth in?

Kevin Palmieri

that I I don't I mean, uh, I had a really good job, I was in really good shape, I was very disciplined, but outside, I mean, I didn't have a lot of were you above? Average. In all of those things, yeah, and about in those things, yeah, in intelligence, I intelligence. I would say I was probably of average intelligence. I was very curious about philosophy and self-awareness, but I was not smarter than the average person at that point. No, no way.

Alan Lazaros

Okay, All right. So when I crunch these numbers for everybody, remember, I'm going to change it to 10 years because it's simpler.

Kevin Palmieri

Okay, it's simpler in the math, but I'm worse than this though 10 years because it's simpler. Okay, it's simpler in the math, but I'm worse than this, though in real life. What it's not accurate, it's only nine years. You're going to say Kev's, 4.6 trillion times better. I'm only going to be one trillion times better it's not going to be a trillion. I'm going to get a big head on me.

Alan Lazaros

It'll actually be alarming how it's. Not a trillion, uh, but what I'm gonna do. 10 years just because 10 days. Here's the quote. 10 days won't change anything. 10 years will change your entire life, that's the compound.

Kevin Palmieri

Well, you could say, and it's easier. I was on a walk with nine years same shit.

Alan Lazaros

I feel like the decade is I'm all right with it.

Kevin Palmieri

Seconds, minutes, hours, days, my story. You know, it's just my story and my life. Whatever you want to add a zero to it.

Alan Lazaros

Go ahead In group coaching, level up yourself, level up your podcast, level up your business. We have a slide. A lot of people in group coaching that are listening. They will recognize this slide or remember it. Hopefully, we have a baby and an older woman and it's this giant compounded graph, essentially upward arrow, of growth and it's seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, quarters, years, decades, lifetime. So, kev, with your permission, I would like to use a decade. Is that cool? You now have my permission. I'm sold. Okay, awesome.

Alan Lazaros

Also, when I was on a walk with Amelia yesterday, I had gotten a new client and we, kevin and I crunched these numbers recently. We're very grateful and proud in many ways, especially looking back at where we started. And do you remember when you and I first started coaching, we coached for free. Yes, I was talking to Amelia, kind of nonchalant. I said, kevin and I crunched the numbers 54 podcasters plus 11 in group coaching plus my 26 clients, so we have 91 clients. And I had this moment of. She said something along the lines of I'm so freaking proud of you and I was going yeah, I guess that is like a lot of clients. She said well, that's why you're so overwhelmed.

Alan Lazaros

I was like yeah, that's true, because q4 for me is very overwhelming, but I'm also very grateful, dude, we started out with one each For free. For free, one client each. Now we have 91 people that we help reach the next level paying clients. That that's unreal. However, that took almost eight years. Yeah, that took almost eight years. So the compound effect is so elusive because in eight days it doesn't seem like anything is working. In eight years you look back and go, whoa, look at what we've accomplished.

Kevin Palmieri

And that's just really important. Can I interrupt you one more time? I apologize, of course I suck, I apologize.

Alan Lazaros

No, no, no, we're good. I do it to you all the time. It's fair, put it out of the way.

Kevin Palmieri

I don't want this to be arrogant, so stick with me. When I say this, I don't mean it in an arrogant way. I said to someone I don't know where it was, who it was but I said, yeah, we crossed a million listens and we crossed a million dollars in the business on the same day. And they were like, wow, good for you, how long have you been in business? And I said, coming up on eight years. And I could tell. When I said that, they were like, yeah, a million listens, a million dollars, eight years.

Kevin Palmieri

That's not that great. And I was like, and then I thought about it, I said, well, realistically, most of that money is in the last like three years.

Alan Lazaros

Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

Four. I mean, we didn't make any money in the first year.

Alan Lazaros

80% of it is in the last three years.

Kevin Palmieri

That. And again, I'm not saying that's a flex, but that's really cool. How, yeah, it's taken us eight years to make that amount of money, but most of that has happened in last three years.

Alan Lazaros

Did you say the burger thing on this episode or last time this?

Kevin Palmieri

episode Thousand Burgers. You opened with it. Okay, so think about the Thousand.

Alan Lazaros

Burger thing Kevin butchered. In the beginning I thought it was.

Kevin Palmieri

I butchered it. You couldn't do the math. Relax, relax, I'm offended.

Alan Lazaros

The reason why I had trouble with that is because you were breaking it down linearly when the whole world works in exponentials. Look breaking it down linearly, when the whole world works in exponentials.

Kevin Palmieri

Look, so it's actually one burger, then two burgers, then four burgers, not at my burger shop at eight. There's only a thousand people in the town, son all right, here's the deal.

Alan Lazaros

Okay, so 10 years, kevin. 10 years ago, 2015, it's going to be 2025, we're going to call it 10 years okay, sure let's say you improved by 0.1 percent per day. That's 36, 3,650 days, so 365 times 10 years. You with me, yeah, I'm with you. All right Now imagine that version of Kev. Yeah, hard-working, humble, jacked, heart-driven, right, I accept. Picture all of that, kev. Okay, now multiply that. Now, this is not going to be that crazy I'm going to guess, let me guess it's it's a lot less than you think.

Kevin Palmieri

Go ahead, no, no, you got to do the numbers first. I need to know the numbers with the mental calculator. So it's what? Is it one dollar?

Alan Lazaros

one dollar times, point. Uh, it's improves by. It grows by 0.1 percent per day. Okay, for 3 650 days. And for what was cole's example?

Kevin Palmieri

uh, dude, that's 25 years yeah, yeah, but we're gonna do that in a second. I need a context, though. You want to do it.

Alan Lazaros

Okay, like 171 million or something, 171 no, it was thousand, it was less than that. Nine one, two, five. Hold on sorry it was 9, 140 and then, if you did by 0.2, it went to 82 million it's only 9 000.

Kevin Palmieri

All right, so I'm, I'm probably 25 years, that's two and a half times. This is 0.1 over 9 000.

Alan Lazaros

It's not that high brother, I'm going to say 372 times better. Nice work, nice work. It's lower than that, it's 38.

Kevin Palmieri

It's 38? No, no, I suck.

Alan Lazaros

No, no, no you don't no, you don't Picture that Kevin at 26, who's already smart, is now 38 times smarter than that.

Kevin Palmieri

Well, this is why it's even that. Imagine trying to guess that. That's why compounding is so hard, because you have there. It's just too hard now.

Alan Lazaros

Now here's where it really lands. Here's what I'm gonna do now, let's imagine kev decided to put in a little extra every day he should. He should have 0.2 percent. Yeah, all right, ready. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's now 1500 instead of 38. I was gonna say 1700. Now watch 0.3, 0.3. Just a little more effort. That one extra book, that one extra audio 0.3 percent per day 98.

Alan Lazaros

Now it's 56 000 shit, 56 000. I'm gonna do the 25 year thing and I'm gonna go quick with it. You do have a call in five minutes. We've got to get you out of here, do I really? Yes, oh, my goodness. Well, let's not miss, because we're talking about consistency. All right, 25 times 365, 9,125. I'm going to do what I did with Cole Shout out to the people who listened to the last episode All right, 25 years, 0.1% improvement, $1, 0.1% growth, 9,125 days, which is 25 years, $9,140. So you're 9,140 times smarter, 9,140 times wealthier, 9,140 times more aware, more capable. Now here's what's crazy If I do 0.2%. He thought it was going tox, uh, or he thought it was going to double it. It went to 82 million. That's, that's how people get wealthy. If you've ever wondered how that dude, remember the guy you talked about with 30 million dollar car collection you said how does someone like that make that much money?

Alan Lazaros

it's this, it's the math. It's the math he, whatever he did in his business, he was very consistent for a very long period of time.

Trusting the process and staying consistent

Kevin Palmieri

Or it's generational wealth. I gotta do some research on him, because I don't know yet you gotta figure it out.

Alan Lazaros

But the point is for everyone let's wrap this in a bow, because I gotta jump. The day-to-day progress is invisible, decade to decade. It is mind-blowing and you have to trust that on the day-to-day, otherwise you won't do it.

Kevin Palmieri

You just stole my quote, made it worse, didn't credit me at all. I think I made it better, but I wish I was 38 times wealthier than I was back then. I'm not.

Alan Lazaros

That one's lagging. It's a lagging indicator, why I wonder why that is All right cool. You are more wealthy though, for sure.

Kevin Palmieri

Yes, yeah Also, you know what Alan says. I'm an engineer. That's his thing. I do not have any higher education, okay. So all the math that I messed up in today's episode I am terrible at math. I'm really good at mental math and my times 12 times 12, 144, 11 times 11, 121, 9 times 981. I was undefeated when it came to those. Nobody could beat me at that. Once we get to 13 and beyond, it's really quite a shit show. So, no higher education and we're doing it.

Outro

Kevin Palmieri

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Alan Lazaros

Keep it consistent. Next level nation.

Kevin Palmieri

Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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