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The Top Lessons From 2000 Episodes (2000)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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What if the key to success was believing in yourself more? Kevin and Alan reflect on their journey in this special 2,000th episode of Next Level University, sharing their most significant lessons. They talk about the importance of self-belief, the power of small, consistent actions, and why pushing through fear is essential for growth. This episode is packed with real talk, personal stories, and insights that will help you stay committed to your goals—no matter how big or small. If you’ve ever doubted your potential, this one’s for you!

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Show notes:
(3:28) Reflecting on 2,000 episodes & gratitude
(6:01) Why self-improvement is a game changer
(10:48) Growth is a step-by-step journey
(15:26) Overcoming imposter syndrome
(25:48) The four rules of success
(31:00) At NLU, we want you to win! So, we’re giving tools and resources to ensure your success. Join our Monthly Meet-up every first Thursday of the month at 5 PM. https://bit.ly/4dPeTiD
(45:20) Fear chasing: The key to confidence
(53:06) Internal growth drives external success
(58:17) Keep taking small steps
(1:00:08) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri:

I think this is why people with so much self-belief seemingly succeed faster, because they take bigger shots faster, where, for me, there's no way an eight-year-ago version of Kev could be here in this. I could not have skipped those steps. Even if you said I could, I wouldn't have been able to maintain it. There's no way.

Alan Lazaros:

I need to not get cocky, I need to stay humble, I need to not lose momentum, because the moment I start thinking we're arrived, we've arrived, 2,000 episodes go us, we've arrived. That's when all the momentum starts to you. Just step off the gas a little bit, step off the gas a little bit, step off the gas a little bit. All of a sudden, you don't win the championship, metaphorically.

Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University. I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri.

Alan Lazaros:

And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.

Kevin Palmieri:

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Alan Lazaros:

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Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today it's episode number 2,000. So, as you've heard, this will be the last episode that we produce. We're going to be selling our equipment right after this episode goes live Mics, cameras, I'm just kidding. 2,000 episodes what a weird freaking world and a weird freaking life. And it seems like it has taken eight years, because it has, but it also seems like it has taken eight months in some ways.

Alan Lazaros:

What was the name of the 1,000th episode? Do you remember?

Kevin Palmieri:

Probably the number one lesson from 1,000 episodes, probably.

Alan Lazaros:

You think this will go differently? No, you know what it was.

Kevin Palmieri:

I remember I think it was Awareness is Everything.

Alan Lazaros:

I don't know why. I must confirm.

Kevin Palmieri:

I'm fairly. It was about awareness and or questions that you ask yourself. It was one of those two things. First, I want to start by saying thank you to each and every one of you who has been along, for however long you have been along this journey with us, whether this is your first episode or your thousandth episode hit it.

Alan Lazaros:

Sorry, I didn't want to interrupt, that's gratitude, that's good. Gratitude's great gratitude is very important. Episode number 1000 yep, are you asking yourself the?

Kevin Palmieri:

hard questions, questions, because that was one of the biggest things that I don't know. That was one of the biggest takeaways at that point is the only way to get to that place for us was to ask and answer a lot of the hard questions that we might have been running from a hundred percent. Well, let me get back into gratitude real quick. Yeah, just super grateful. I I, when we started this I know we've heard us talk about this before Alan knew we would get here. I didn't. I didn't know we'd have a global top 100 podcast with listeners in 100. I just saw my camera do the thing, listeners in 175 plus countries and all the stuff. I did not know that was a thing. I did not know that was going to happen. So I am very, very grateful for each and every one of you Every one of you that has reached out, every one of you that has not yet reached out, every one of you that has left a review, everyone that has not yet left to review just super grateful. It's.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's definitely a different energy for me than it was on a thousand. A thousand was a lot of tears. There was a lot of tears on a thousand. This I feel more. I don't know. I feel super proud, but in a different way, I don't know what way. It's cool, it's surreal, it's very surreal. For me, I'm sure tonight, friday night, when we're recording this. It has been a hell of a week. Brutal, just a freaking brutal week. So maybe it's just I don't have any energy at this point, I don't know but super grateful. 2,000 episodes. Here we are, and here's to the next 2,000 episodes. Anything you'd like to say, sir?

Alan Lazaros:

Well, while I might have believed that we would get here, what I now understand that I didn't understand in the past is I just really I have extra gratitude for the people who do listen, because personal growth, personal development, self-improvement, 1% improvement in your pocket, from anywhere on the planet, completely free, next level university, I do realize that the amount of people that are willing to work on themselves every single day to try to be a little bit better it is a smaller statistical percentage of the population than I ever could have imagined and it does. It makes me sad that that's the case, because I do believe that self-improvement is the solution to not every problem, but a lot, of, a lot of problems. I mean, when I was a kid, if I had known, just improve yourself and your life will improve. You can't change your mom. You can't change your stepdad. You can't change your adversity. You can't change your circumstances. You can't change what country you were born in. You can't change what town you live in as a kid, but you can change yourself. You can change yourself. You can change yourself. You can change yourself, you can improve yourself. You change every room you're in. You change every conversation you're in you. You are able and capable of improving. You can get better at anything you want.

Alan Lazaros:

Now that doesn't mean that you can, that everyone's going to be an astronaut. It doesn't mean everyone's going to win an olympic gold medal. It doesn't mean that you can, that everyone's going to be an astronaut. It doesn't mean everyone's going to win an olympic gold medal. It doesn't mean everyone's going to be in the nba or the nfl or the world cup in soccer. But you can improve in any direction you want and, and when you do, you put yourself on the high end of things going a little better for you, and when they go a little better, you get a little bit more belief and then you can improve again.

Alan Lazaros:

And it really is. It's wild, and so I might've known and believed that we would eventually get here. I didn't know, but I definitely believed. But I have more appreciation now in some ways than I ever did in the past, because I think now I understand how rare it is. It's very rare to do something 2,000 times. That's meaningful. It's very rare to put in that kind of work towards something and I think that's really it means a lot. It means a lot. We've accomplished something magnificent, yeah, and for anyone on this journey with us.

Kevin Palmieri:

That means a lot For sure and shout out to the team we have a wonderful team. Again, this is always the fine line, because we say this behind the scenes. We've said this, like Amy is the assistant coach in group coaching and we used to say, amy, we couldn't do it without you. And then we're like, honestly, I think that sounds super empowering, but the fact is, we couldn't do it in the same way we've done it with you, without you. Exactly, I never want to minimize somebody's impact in what we've done, but I also don't want to give it all to them either, and I know they don't want us to give it all to them either. So I don't mean that from a lack of gratitude, I mean that from a. I just want to have an accurate perspective. Amazing team. Shout out to the team. I can't imagine doing this without the team. I will say that Everything would be so much freaking harder. So shout out to the team. I know we're not the best clients in the world, because we give episodes like six hours before they're supposed to launch and the team always does an amazing job. So I'm super, super grateful for the team.

Kevin Palmieri:

My lesson, my number one lesson, is very in alignment with what you were talking about. I went to the gym this morning. I was driving back and I was thinking. I was like, what do I want to talk about? Because I knew we were going to probably do an episode like this and this is the best case for continuing forward that I can think of. And we used to talk about this all the time, but we don't really talk about it like this anymore. When you start something, you have a certain amount of limiting beliefs around that thing. So I'll use myself as an example. When I started this podcast in 2017, it was either March or April of 2017. So we're 17, 18, 18 or 19, 19 to 20, 20 to 21, 22 to 23, 23 to 24, 24 to 25. So this is technically 7 years. Right, here we go the old, the old, fucking Sandwich 2017 to 2018.

Alan Lazaros:

1 2018 to 2019. 2 2019 to 2020. 3 2020 to 2021. 4 2021 to 2022. 5 2022 2019 to 2020. 3 2020 to 2021. 4 2021 to 2022.

Kevin Palmieri:

5 2022 to 2023 6 I missed that one.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, 2023 to 2024 7. 2024 to 2025 8, because it's March of 2025.

Kevin Palmieri:

So it's 8 years, baby, the sandwich and the meat. Yeah, if you're somebody who's like counting and you ever feel like, is there one more or one less?

Alan Lazaros:

Did you know this is the premise of why Y2K was people were freaking out.

Kevin Palmieri:

I mean, it makes total sense because I would have been freaking out too, because this is why computer engineers start with zero. Ah, it all clicks, it all clicks, it all clicks. Yeah, but I can't explain it. We're actually going to talk about that in a future episode.

Alan Lazaros:

And for the last episode, think about time travel and how that is or is not a thing. It is a thing. We're not going to talk about that today. We don't have time, we don't have time.

Kevin Palmieri:

I think the wild thing is for many of us. I think the only way to believe more in what we're doing is to see from a higher perspective how much is possible. So you don't believe you can do a podcast. You do one episode and you say, okay, I could see myself doing that once a month. I mean, it wasn't as bad as I thought I could see myself doing that once a month. You do it once a month for a year and you say you know what? I could probably do this once a week. I got enough reps under my belt. I could probably do this once a week. I got enough reps under my belt, I could probably do this once a week.

Kevin Palmieri:

And every time I think you're getting to the next level and you can see a little bit further. It's like nobody jumps from the bottom of the mountain to the top of the mountain Number one. There would be no point in that because you'd miss all the beautiful views along the way. It just wouldn't be very fulfilling. Imagine if you could just say oh, you know what, I think I want to be a millionaire tomorrow.

Kevin Palmieri:

Okay, that's done, you wouldn't learn any of the lessons that come along. You wouldn't have to face the parts of yourself you're not ready to face yet. You wouldn't have to develop new skills. It would kind of be boring, honestly. It'd be cool to be a millionaire tomorrow that'd be awesome, but it's very it's very short term that's exactly why I turned down the million. Well, I wish we would have taken it now, like if we could be offered it now, it'd be like ah, we are smarter than we were, let's take it.

Kevin Palmieri:

And then leverage it and then use it wisely yeah, like cars and and giraffes and stuff be awesome'd be awesome, I think that, but you really believe that now you do understand.

Alan Lazaros:

That's literally why, genuinely it was brutal. But it's more meaningful. It is more meaningful but it's when you earn it.

Kevin Palmieri:

It doesn't always feel meaningful in the moment.

Alan Lazaros:

I think sometimes it feels.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's meaningful. In reflection, with new perspective and hindsight, that's the best case I can possibly give for continuing to go Right now. You think you're capable of what you think you're capable of, probably based on the fact that you've done something to a certain level. If you did it next time to a little bit higher level, you might have more belief. Oftentimes people ask how do you overcome imposter syndrome? I don't think you do. I haven't figured it out. I don't know what the answer is. I haven't figured it out. I said I just look at the most recent and relevant proof. The most recent and relevant proof in the beginning was well, I did a podcast episode.

Kevin Palmieri:

I wasn't horrible. I hate the way my voice sounds. I don't want to listen to it. I don't know if anybody's going to listen to it. Yeah, I remember that, but I enjoyed the process of it. All right, cool, that's awesome. Then I interview Alan. Okay, well, I did an episode. I know how to set up the equipment, so maybe that'll be impressive to Alan. Maybe, if the questions aren't the best, when he shows up and I have a mic and I have a mixer I mean, he's probably never seen that before That'll be super cool. That'll build some credibility. Okay, that went well. Then eventually I have another guest in person, Okay cool. Then we get to the place where it's like all right, we should start interviewing people virtually. I don't really know how to do that. How are we going to?

Alan Lazaros:

do that. All right, let me go on Google and try to figure it out. All right, we got to order some new equipment Awesome. And then that gets easy. Shout out to Facebook audio. No, no FaceTime audio, facetime audio. We found that FaceTime audio back in the day was the best audio quality.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, somehow, yeah, somehow it was better, but that opened up a new door. So that if right now you're standing and again I don't want this to be bumper sticker shit, so I'm going to try to make it not but if right now you're standing in front of a door that seems like there's no key to open it, there is a key and then when you open that door, you're going to have exposure to new doors that probably didn't seem like they were there before, and I think it's that way forever. There are doors now that I can see that I could not see eight years ago. They existed, but they didn't exist in my imagination and they didn't seem realistic at all. And they didn't seem realistic at all. That is my best sales pitch for just continuing to go, because when you go, I think the things that didn't seem at all realistic just seem more realistic because you've just been doing it longer. So there's something to be said. How would I, how would I make that? A succinct short message. I don't know. So many of the lessons that you haven't gotten yet are going to be the proof that you need.

Kevin Palmieri:

Eventually and that is the paradox of it all is, you might not have the level of belief you need in order to get to where you aspire to get to. But the belief is along the way. That's the breadcrumbs along the way. But if you stop, you might end up being that person saying yeah, I had a, I had a podcast once. Didn't work. You know the industry's. The industry's. It's a scam man set up for certain people to win, you know it's. I had a podcast once. Crowded, crowded space. Yeah, it's not. I did an episode on that podcast. It's a scam man Set up for certain people to win, you know it's. I had a podcast once.

Alan Lazaros:

Crowded, crowded space.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, it's not. I did an episode on that Podcast, growth U. It is mathematically not. It is not too saturated, I promise. But you've heard people that say, yeah, you know, I used to be a bodybuilder. Why'd you stop? Why'd you stop? What changed? Because you could say, yeah, I'm still a bodybuilder. You could say that. So, yeah, that's my takeaway. You got to keep going because so much of what you're trying to uncover is like the next step, and then the next step, and the next step, and the next step. But if you stop now, you're going to wonder why you didn't get the lessons you needed. And the lessons are in the future, not in the present, and it's fucking weird.

Alan Lazaros:

I'm trying to think to myself how to where to go with all that Everyone out there watching or listening. You can think of something in your life that you've achieved, that at one point you hadn't. And when you first set out to achieve said thing, whether it's big or small, you didn't know how to do it. And you figured out how to do it, and I think the rarer the thing, the more difficult it will probably be. So it's again I. I use this as a metaphor because it's really important. It's like an olympic gold medal is very rare. There's only one of them in the whole world every four years for each event, obviously. So if you're going to achieve something that rare, you're going to have to design a life that is of equal rarity and or be a freak of nature Usually both actually Athletically, depending on the event, right, unless it's what Kevinvin watches, which is curling, uh look, you have to have something special going on.

Alan Lazaros:

Of course I understand I'm gonna have the touch I'm just being playful you gotta have magic touch son and so anyone out there watching or listening think of something you've achieved that you didn't know how to achieve when you set out to achieve it. I think that that's how all things work. However, the difficulty is predicated on the rarity the higher it is of a mountain to climb, the harder it will be. Kevin and I talked about this earlier. Mount Everest is the highest mountain on planet earth.

Alan Lazaros:

There's a movie called Everest that is based on a true story of a bunch of people that got caught in a storm. I think it was in 1996 and there was like several people who froze to death, and it's very clear in the film too, there was a lot of hubris. There was a lot of arrogance. Hubris means arrogance, arrogance, hubris means arrogance. And when you watch the film, they did a really good job. Of the people that were the most skilled one of the mountain, I mean, he was in a t-shirt, he was just arrogant and he ended up freezing to death and dying. And again, I don't want to spoil the film for anybody, it's actually free on YouTube. By the way, everest on YouTube, it's got Jake Gyllenhaal. It's pretty good, but it's also a little bit depressing. So, fair warning there, humility and far more work ethic and far more pain and suffering. I mean they are straight up suffering. I mean it just looks terrible, nearly freezing, and some of them actually freeze to death.

Alan Lazaros:

So the higher you want to aim in life, the more you have to become. And 2,000 episodes is harder to achieve than 1,000. And 1,000 is harder to achieve than 100, and 100 is harder to achieve than 10. And I think that we all have to be really discerning when it comes to what we do and don't do, because it's great to sit here and celebrate 2,000 episodes, but to bring it very real to everybody. What are the things Kevin and I have had to stop doing in order to achieve that real to everybody? What are the things Kevin and I have had to stop doing in order to achieve that Right? In order to focus on this podcast and this business, we've had to say no to a lot of other things A lot of other job opportunities, a lot of other investors, a lot of other things that we could have done with our time and effort right. So we get one life and we've chosen to go all in on this podcast and Next Level University has a business and has a mission and has a passion, purpose for a profit and all that stuff, but ultimately, the four rules of success that I have cultivated and or created over these 2,000 episodes, this eight-year journey, is the four that I give to every single client, which is the first one is stop the wrong trains.

Alan Lazaros:

In order to start this train, first, I had to stop drinking. I had to stop hanging out with people that weren't serving me. I had to stop going to clubs. I had to stop. So there's a lot of things I had to say no to before I could say a big yes to this. And that was not overnight. It's not like I stopped all those overnight. It was a gradual progression.

Alan Lazaros:

So that's number one. It stopped the wrong trains. Number two is start the right trains, meaning, okay, I stopped drinking, all right, I'm going to start working out of the eight years off and on Not really actually not off and on I've been weight training for all the eight years and that's a big deal, right. So start the right trains. So this podcast is one of the right trains. Certain team members have been right trains. Certain habits have been right trains. Certain metrics that we track, that we started tracking right. Okay. So stop the wrong train. Start the right trains.

Alan Lazaros:

The third one is improve the right trains. It's not like we can just record 2000 episodes. We have to get a little bit better each day. We have to. Okay, kevin's camera a little bit different. Okay, the audio quality All right. New microphones All right. Different cameras Okay, all right. New microphones, all right, different cameras. Okay, StreamYard better than Riverside, better than whatever we used to use, anchor Buzzsprout, boom, boom, boom. How do we get better? You can't just do stuff. Showing up is part of it, staying consistent and staying power is part of it, but you have to if you want to succeed. This is a really good example.

Alan Lazaros:

Emilia and I are watching the indiana jones series again. We wanted an adventure series, we wanted something that was just to r&r at the end of a long day and, dude, this was filmed in 1981. Okay, steven spielberg, george lucas, but steven spielberg directed it. Indiana jones, the Raiders of the Lost Ark, is one of the most famous films in the history of cinema. Dude, this movie is fucking terrible. Like between you and I and for anyone who's a fan of Indiana Jones I'm not trying to be unkind here I remember when I was a kid I went to Disneyland and they did a reenactment and it was like the boulder and he was. You know. The point is it's just terrible because it's old, it's not. It's not bad for 1981. For 1981, it's one of the best films ever made. For 2025, it's a right piece of shit and it's pretty bad.

Alan Lazaros:

I mean, our cameras on this podcast are better than what they were using. Man, my camera, my iphone, is significantly better than you know what they were using back then, and that's just. They improved a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. Steven spielberg's latest film is going to be so much better than his film back then. What was he in his 30s or four like? He was at the beginning of his journey? Now we've got avatar, we've got cgi, we've got cameras in our pockets that are better than the 300 000,000 camera they used to film that, and I just don't. I don't know if we are doing a good enough job understanding the compound effect of small improvements. I have it written on my whiteboard over here 0.1% improvement every day for 50 years means 84 million times better, like Steven Spielberg's latest film will be millions of times better than Indiana Jones in terms of production quality and that kind of thing, and so, yeah, it's a competitive world.

Alan Lazaros:

And you have to stop doing the wrong trains. You have to start the right trains and you have to never stop improving. You have to improve a little bit at a time, a little bit at a time, a little bit at a time. And the last one is never lose momentum. That's the last rule. The four rules of success, alan's four rules for success Stop the wrong trains, start the right trains. Improve consistently every day. Little bit each day, not huge little bit each day every workout I'm sitting there going.

Alan Lazaros:

I got to get a little stronger. I got to put in a little more work. I got to do a little more volume. I got to. Okay, what did I do last time? I did 25. I'm going to try to do 26. Okay, last time I did eight for this. Okay, I'm going to try to do nine. Sometimes I try to do 12. I ended up doing nine.

Alan Lazaros:

But the point is is I just have to. I cannot leave this fucking gym until I get a little bit better. And that's when you do that over time, you do. You achieve your dreams, you do. And the last one never lose momentum is make sure that you are. When you're feeling momentum, you can't get cocky. That's what that one is. I'm feeling momentum right now. My calendar is full. In the beginning, no one gave a shit, and now my calendar is full and filling up. I need to not get cocky, I need to stay humble. I need to not lose momentum, because the moment I start thinking we're arrived, we've arrived, we've arrived 2000 episodes ago, us, we've arrived. That's when all the momentum starts to you. Just step off the gas a little bit, step off the gas a little bit, step off the gas a little bit. All of a sudden, you don't win the championship, metaphorically.

Kevin Palmieri:

You know the, the. I think the second thing that popped into my head when you were talking is this getting to this point is way different than I thought, like a lot of the things that I thought I would have or have done or I would be, or. That isn't necessarily true, but there is other stuff that I never thought would be, that are actually way better, and that's that's weird, that's a very strange.

Alan Lazaros:

Again, when I started this, I thought I was gonna yeah, what was like specifics. Yeah, if you want, I mean again oh, you know, man, I don't care.

Kevin Palmieri:

In the beginning I I thought I was gonna be a mindset coach, like I want to be a mindset coach for high level athletes, like that'd be cool.

Kevin Palmieri:

But you know why I wanted to do that? Because I didn't necessarily see any other way to do it. Not that I wasn't. I mean listen. If you listen to this podcast, you know I love talking about deep shit. But I'm not. That's not who I. I'm not the same version of kev that started this. It's things have changed. So I don't think that's really what I don't think I'd be as happy doing that as what I'm doing. No way, right, very honestly, no way. The options you have in the beginning are really, realistically, only the options that you can see Now. The other ones exist. They're still there. They exist, but it's almost like in a video game. It's one of the characters that's grayed out. You can see, like in a video game, it's one of the characters that's grayed out you could see them, but you can't click on them, yet you gotta unlock them.

Kevin Palmieri:

You gotta unlock those, those characters, and I think that for a lot of us, when I started this, I didn't think I was gonna be a podcast coach. That wasn't even a thing. I don't. I didn't know there was any podcast coaches in 2017. I didn't know we that was gonna be a thing.

Alan Lazaros:

We had someone that we were doing fitness with and she had a podcast coach I remember that I remember thinking, oh you, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. He didn't. I remember that, yeah, in my how much are you paying this dude? I know wait what I know this is, and then the stuff that he was telling her to do.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, it was brutal, yeah, and then, but that then you got the idea of I can do that better than him. Well, it wasn't that simple, but yeah, I mean.

Alan Lazaros:

But you did think that you realized like wait, you're paying him that much for that terrible advice.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, it was like we've done more episodes than he has?

Alan Lazaros:

Does he have a?

Kevin Palmieri:

podcast. Does a guy even have a podcast? He doesn't. How does he know?

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, Dude, I don't think he did, to be honest.

Kevin Palmieri:

We were supposed to do an interview with this person and he said he's like just let them talk. That was his advice to her. Just let them talk, let them lead the whole thing. You remember that. What do you think now, that was terrible advice. I mean, it was good advice from a place of we could lead you effectively for sure. Sure, but nothing is what I thought it. It would be in all the ways, in all, in all, in all of the ways. Yeah, I don't think it was good advice.

Alan Lazaros:

No, I think we used to be more bashful about stuff like that. That was, that was a giant uh, I don't want to say a giant waste of her money, because I think some of it was probably of value. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, that was not worth it from my perspective economically.

Kevin Palmieri:

I think everything is different than I thought it would be. Honestly, I had another thought when I was driving home from the gym today. It was like I feel so much different than I did even three months ago. I just feel like I know so much more about business and like certain things I know so much better because over the last three months they've just been a super focus and it's just it's. But in the beginning, in the beginning, it was almost like three months, was just you get thrown in a blender and you're just mixed all around and you don't know what's what. You know there's like a lot more to everything, but you don't really know what it is yet. And now it's almost like you realize there's kind of a lot less to everything. But again, that's not how it starts.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, in the beginning it's complex as hell.

Kevin Palmieri:

In the beginning it's super complex and you are in a blender and you're trying to grab like does this matter? Does this matter Does?

Alan Lazaros:

this matter. We did a lot of that, didn't we? Does any of this matter? How many different social platforms, stories, reels Clubhouse what do we do? Linkedin should we have a LinkedIn?

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, and that's just social media that has nothing to do with the internal stuff. And now it's just like oh, I feel like I've gotten way better at this over the last three months. Why that's all I've been doing Interesting, okay, again, in the beginning. That's not how it works. You can't just do one thing. Most of us can't. That's kind of that is. That is a privilege, and a byproduct of very hard work in one direction for a long period of time is then you can start to be a little bit more specific with what you do. But that's been weird. I actually do feel like pretty confident, which is weird, like that's not a new thing, it's newer, obviously.

Alan Lazaros:

NLU listener what is happening? I just wanted to jump in here and let you know if you want to get to the next level faster. We have a free virtual monthly meetup at the first Thursday of every month. You can connect with like-minded people and become a bigger part of this amazing global community. The link to register will be in the show notes. So I was talking yesterday to a client shout out to you.

Alan Lazaros:

I was talking about self-esteem and self-confidence and I was talking about how self-esteem is the day-to-day version of self-worth. So self-worth is kind of let's say you have an eight out of 10 self-worth and let's say you're trying to get to 10, 10 is accurate self-worth. Self-esteem can fluctuate day to day but you're it's not going to tank your self-worth. So I had a really hard day yesterday and my self-esteem was really low, but my self-worth didn't waver that much. It went down a little but not a bunch. And today I'm back at it and my self-esteem is higher today for sure. Self-confidence, I think, is the same idea with self-belief. I think self-confidence is the day-to-day fluctuations on the trend line of self-belief. So if your self-belief was a what, what do you think your self-belief was? If a 10 is like the most self-belief that Kevin Palmieri could ever cultivate within himself, inside of himself. Where were you when you first started eight years ago and where are you now?

Kevin Palmieri:

So on macro like.

Alan Lazaros:

Self-belief yeah, On real self-belief.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, I don't know. We've been trying to figure this out. I think I thought I was somebody who had no self-belief, but in retrospect I think I was probably higher than I thought. So I'd say probably, like I don't know.

Alan Lazaros:

Why? Why were you higher than you thought? Because I think a lot of people are portraying self-confidence externally as a protection mechanism to feeling insecure internally. If you want to build self-belief and I want to define it too because of the eight years Kevin and I both agree on many things, but this is one that we really agree on Self-belief is the most important. There is nothing more important to success in life health, wealth, life and love than believing in yourself and bar none. There is no asterisk on that self and bar none.

Kevin Palmieri:

There is no asterisk on that. That is that to the point, where again, I'm not saying I don't like arrogance, I'm not saying it's something you should try for, but I know a lot of people that are like unreasonably high in self-belief, hinging on arrogant, that are super successful externally yeah, the relationships are dog shit and.

Alan Lazaros:

And are they fulfilled?

Kevin Palmieri:

Maybe not, which is why arrogance is bad, but for pure external, like if you said to me hey, I want to get as strong as humanly possible, take steroids. I'm not saying you should do that, but if you're trying to get as strong as humanly possible, that will lead you in the right direction. It'll also kill you, most likely. I'm not saying apples to apples, but you know this is beautiful too.

Alan Lazaros:

If anyone listened to the last episode, kevin and I did in the micro to get as strong as possible, take steroids works. Yep, if you're thinking, 80 years ahead, taking steroids is actually a bad idea yeah, because you're, it's not good. And years ahead, taking steroids is actually a bad idea yeah, because you're just not good. And back to the arrogance being a bad thing. I think arrogance can lead to recklessness I've been guilty of this in the past too and recklessness can lead to death, and the everest movie is a perfect example of that. I mean, this dude was literally at one of the base camps in a, in a t-shirt, like with his shirt off.

Kevin Palmieri:

I mean he was arrogant as shit, because he was the.

Alan Lazaros:

He was the pro climber. No, no, so he, there's different camps. I don't know everest, dude, um, but like it was very clear that he was way too like he didn't take the mountain seriously and it got him killed. Like you better treat everest with humility. Everest will kill you like storm out of nowhere. You're dead, I mean.

Kevin Palmieri:

Mother Nature doesn't give a shit.

Alan Lazaros:

Mother Nature doesn't give a shit about you and your hubris. You want to climb a mountain today.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter, I don't care Well so that's the danger of arrogance.

Alan Lazaros:

But to Kevin's point, self-belief. If we had to do a second one, I'd probably call it humility. I think those two, humility and self-belief, together is a powerful combination because you can play the long game and not get deaded in the short run yeah, with recklessness. But back to the self-belief piece. Let's define it. Self-belief is your belief in your own ability to achieve something externally. To achieve something not even externally, but in general, like if you don't, if I didn't believe that I could be the type of man to be with a woman like Emilia, I wouldn't have DM'd her. You have to have some level of belief in order to take action, and that's where that's where all achievements start is some level of self-belief, even if it's just enough to be around a certain person, or it's just enough to get that coach, or it's just enough to apply to the job, or it's just enough to give that a shot. And then you have to reinforce it, reinforce it, reinforce it. Like.

Alan Lazaros:

Kevin has an advantage over me in explaining things to anyone who has struggled with self-belief in the past, because when I was younger I had no idea that self-belief was the key. I had no idea what it was. I had no idea that I had a lot of it. I had no idea that other people didn't no idea, because around me they all acted like they did. Seriously, no-transcript. And as I've gotten older and older and older, there have been fewer and fewer and fewer people from my past that have achieved the dreams that they had set out to back then and maybe they changed their mind. Maybe they didn't believe in themselves. They didn't believe in themselves. Maybe they didn't have the right mentors, whatever. I'm not going down that rabbit hole, but what I am saying is, I think, as someone who didn't believe in himself that much, I think it's important for you to explain what life's like now.

Kevin Palmieri:

Like. What is it like now to?

Alan Lazaros:

actually believe in yourself, because now your whole future is kind of what you make of it.

Kevin Palmieri:

But it's still not. It still sucks and I'll explain. I'll explain it sucks better than it used to, and also shout out to anybody who ever wanted to be an astronaut what in the hell's wrong with you? In the best way, like you're far braver than I. You want to go out into space.

Alan Lazaros:

I don't even want to jettison me into outer space. F that noise, I'll head into space at some point. I won't. Commercial space commercial space flight is going to be a thing soon I'm sure it will be.

Kevin Palmieri:

You know what else is a thing um butt chugging vodka? I'm not gonna do that. You know like what are we doing?

Alan Lazaros:

here. You know what else is a thing. That is a thing. Funny. You just compared commercial space flight to butt chugging vodka only on the next level.

Kevin Palmieri:

University podcast look, I'd rather butt chug vodka with my feet on the ground than sip it while flying into space I'm not gonna do either of those things you can put I would.

Alan Lazaros:

I would go into space at some point. I think that's very in the near future.

Kevin Palmieri:

You can let me know, take a selfie wherever you end up I will it is, and then send it on down.

Alan Lazaros:

It's the safest thing of all time. Nine by ten or whatever it is, eight by ten.

Kevin Palmieri:

So I would say it was. I probably had like a level three self-belief. Nice in the beginning, I would say and again.

Alan Lazaros:

What did you act? Like it was 10., 10., 12.

Kevin Palmieri:

Look at your face. I love it, man. 12.

Alan Lazaros:

Appreciate you admitting it had to that's when people get the goods right there Defense mechanism.

Kevin Palmieri:

Of course I'm not making it wrong, no, no, I know you're not. I know Defense, ego is a defense mechanism for most of us, right? So what would happen is, let's say, I was at a level three interviewing alan, the first time would be like a level four behavior and I would be terrified the night before, I'd probably be scared the day of, I'd be anxious. And it peaks, and it peaks, and it peaks to the time where you sit down and you start it and then, once you start the thing, it kind of starts to go down a little bit. It's like okay, okay we're here.

Alan Lazaros:

Maybe I am the man no well with you.

Kevin Palmieri:

the first time we recorded it was definitely that I was like I am the fucking man. What was I worried about? I'm the best. I still have it, I gotta we gotta take a look at it at some point, because it is gonna be embarrassing yeah absolutely. It's gonna be embarrassing. I won't be able to watch much of it at all, but then it starts to go down a little bit.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's like, okay, now I'm kind of in the zone, okay, I'm experiencing what this is like. Cool, next time you have the opportunity to do a level four thing.

Alan Lazaros:

What I just remembered. In the very first interview you said handsome as fuck.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yes.

Alan Lazaros:

That's how you introduced me. I've always been complimentative of you. I appreciate it.

Kevin Palmieri:

Long before anybody else was. I appreciate it. Put that on the record. Everybody else was talking shit about how crazy Alan was. I said he was handsome on a public front. Okay.

Alan Lazaros:

With level 10 certainty. With level 10 certainty. That's funny.

Kevin Palmieri:

So you do a level three, you have a level three belief, you have the opportunity to do a level four thing. You don't want to do it because you're. In my mind it was like I can't do this, I'm not going to be able to do this. I egoed up, was able to do the level four thing. It felt a little weird. Why did I start swearing immediately? Okay, maybe we won't do that next time. So next time I have a level 3.1 belief and I go do a level four fear, not a scary Interesting. Do that enough time. 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, all the way up to four. And you're doing a level four fear and you're not scared anymore. Interesting, why? What the hell happened? Oh yeah, I've done 15 episodes. Well, okay, cool next level you next level version of kevin.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yes, this is at this point. You're what?

Alan Lazaros:

29, 28, something like that.

Kevin Palmieri:

Who knows how old I was, kevin version 2.8 is level 4 confident baby level 4, and then the things that almost didn't even seem like a possibility for you. Now we're a little bit closer, so what was what was the scary?

Alan Lazaros:

okay, ah, that was before, kind of we're like lifting weights with a patriots cheerleader where that was it was a. It's a crazy journey.

Kevin Palmieri:

We're interviewing multi-millionaires that is a really good one. We, alan, spoke at an event and there was a guy there named jonathan moore oh yeah, you remember yep and he's, like you, remember the huge marlin on his in his house yeah, he.

Kevin Palmieri:

He invited us to go to his house to interview him and it was like this beautiful home, and I was like, oh, this dude's got some money, this dude's like super successful. What the hell are we doing here? And we go up into his loft and it's beautiful and he's like all right, let's set the camera up. That was like a level five fear. Yeah, out of my comfort zone, did it? Went well, cool. But so rinse and repeat that. Now, today it's the same thing, it's just different. So we have opportunities to do certain things. I still have that moment of like can I even freaking do this? Am I even capable of doing this? Then, when I do it, it's like, okay, I'm way more capable than I thought, to the point now where I'm willing to take shots that I wasn't willing to take before, because now I have the confidence that I think I can do it part one, and if I, even if I fail, it's not going to break me as much as I thought it would in the beginning.

Alan Lazaros:

Kevin, remember back in the day there'd be be someone that Kevin would DM and be like. I don't understand they don't answer me, you know, and that would bother you. Now you've got like 50 people ghosting you right now. So many people are ghosting me, but I also understand.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, now I understand why I understand. Yeah, they have a life outside of answering you.

Alan Lazaros:

They do. They have stuff going on. Yeah, just like I don't respond well, all the time. Right, can we go into that? Because that we did a lot of stuff that was really, really outside of our comfort zone for and again you go. Kev went from I'm scared to start a podcast interviewing me to. We were at brant penvidick's place interviewing him in his, in his movie theater in la. Yeah, it's, it has been a three years. I feel like those first few years were really big for for inner, like believing what's possible.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, for me it was for belief. There are certain things like being on stage for the first time. I was like holy shit.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri:

Whoa, what a. That is such a. It took so much out of me that like when it was over it was just this wave of relief, and then I think it gets you. Put it in your pocket.

Alan Lazaros:

You're like all right, that's something that I could do. I could do that again.

Kevin Palmieri:

Or I actually enjoyed that. I felt like myself up there. I got lost in time. It was wonderful, whatever Not everything's like that but yeah, that was so valuable for me. I, but yeah, that was so valuable for me. I think fear chasing is one of the most.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.

Kevin Palmieri:

The most valuable things ever of all time. I agree, because if you don't face the fears, they lead you forever.

Alan Lazaros:

I agree.

Kevin Palmieri:

I was afraid to DM Emilia. I thought she had a boyfriend. Yeah, for sure.

Alan Lazaros:

The fear chasing principle is 100% important, but what I've come to understand is all of us have different fears. I wasn't afraid to interview Brant. I wasn't, yeah, and you were, but I was afraid to DM Emilia right. So it all depends on your core wound, which is an episode we did a while back.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's weird, the whole thing's weird. The whole thing's weird. I it's just that it's. I think this is why people with so much self-belief seemingly succeed faster, because they take bigger shots faster, where for me, I there's no way, set eight year, eight year ago, version of kev could be here in this. I could not have skipped those steps. Even if you said I could, I wouldn't have been able to maintain it. There's no way.

Kevin Palmieri:

Because, I wouldn't have had the confidence, the belief, the resilience internally, the understanding, the self-worth, the self-love, the failures that I've learned through. There's no way.

Alan Lazaros:

I have a really powerful framework that I took a client through yesterday shout out to you again, different client, but you know who you are and its identity process, results and how we we were trying to figure out how to expand his comfort zone. He's like I gotta work on my mindset and we went into it. I. I said okay, so the identity of being a YouTuber isn't fully locked in yet. He said no. I said okay, is it because of?

Kevin Palmieri:

the identity.

Alan Lazaros:

Is it because of the process, because you're doing the process every day or is it because of the results? So we went through it, we went through it, we went through it. He said it's interesting, I want to get more YouTube views, but I'm actually scared to he. Youtube views, but I'm actually scared to. He's. Like if I have a video that sails past 10,000 views, I'm actually scared. It's outside your comfort zone. 10,000 people are going to see this video with me working out and me whatever. And you and I went on a YouTube channel, evan Carmichael's YouTube channel and it had what three, three, over 3 million subscribers at the time. Right. But I remember the first time you and I ever were interviewed. We went to a high school and we were interviewed on a on a tv show the totally well show and it was pretty legit little studio they had going on there and I I that was the first time I cried on camera, I think, and that was it is.

Alan Lazaros:

It's just, I was never afraid of the interview. I remember I went, I got flown down to florida and I was on a tv show and it was like sort of late night tv type of thing with, like the backdrop and the city in the background. It was actually a green screen. It wasn't, you know, and I remember posting it and never was like I knew you'd make it all the stuff. It's like I didn't make it, man, but I appreciate it and in some ways right. I guess that's one of the milestones. And for those of you who don't know Brant Pindvick, it's he, kevin pronounced it, brant Pindivick, right out of the gate on that interview.

Alan Lazaros:

It's hilarious and he did Bar Rescue and Extreme Weight Loss. He was a producer on those and the main producer, a producer and on those and what, the main producer. But I think that you, you take these steps right and going from like a loser in high school I don't think kevin was a loser, but he, he thinks he was. I definitely was, that I'm certain of, and I don't think anyone would argue with that um, particularly in freshman year. And then you can't even get a girl to look at you, and that now, all of a sudden, you're like, you're hanging out with patriots, cheerleaders and models and I've coached a legitimate super model.

Alan Lazaros:

It's just weird, it's weird and. But but here's the thing, it would be weird if it all happened in one day. Right, it happened over a span of eight years. So it was like little weird, little weird, little weird, little outside my comfort zone, little outside my comfort zone, little outside my comfort zone, and some of it, quite frankly, was within my comfort zone. I mean some of it I was more than ready. I think you can prepare ahead of time or you can prepare after. For me I feel like a lot of it I I so, for example, the evan carmichael interview. I didn't feel unprepared for that and I remember telling kev like dude, you don't need notes, you got this this is for the last we fucking do.

Kevin Palmieri:

This was not for the first. This was the last one, not the first.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah agreed, agreed. Um, thank you for that clarification, but we got to a point where it was like kev, you don't need your notebook anymore. That's's a crutch. You're good, this is all you fucking do, man like. And then we interviewed professional fighter, all this kind of stuff. So, at the end of the day, I don't want this to be a let's stack all the awesome shit We've done. At the end of the day, though, it starts with okay, island networking event with a password. Okay, now we're going in arizona, uh, through three security clearances to get to an infinity pool, high rise, with a ferrari in the garage. Okay, that, what's that about? All right, then it's okay producer, one of the top guys in hollywood, like friends with the a-listers. Like we're in his house now eating steak, hanging out with his family in his backyard with pool and ping pong tables, and and then it's okay, what'd you say?

Alan Lazaros:

mini horses? Four, four mini horses. And it just keeps going, keeps going. Okay, now we're in a triple decker, overlooking the pacific coast highway, interviewing, you know so, this person. Then it's boom, boom, boom, and and then it's okay, we got our first client okay. Now we're we're coaches okay, and then it's okay, we got our first client Okay, now we're coaches Okay, and then we're coaching for free. Then it's 50 bucks, then it's 75, then it's boom, boom, boom. Okay, now we're a multi six-figure business. Well, first it's we're hit six figures Like whoa, oh my God. Now it's multi six-figure and then it's okay. Well, now we have a little team going.

Alan Lazaros:

It's like people that's out of our comfort zone even one was in the beginning. And then, and then it's you know seven, it goes to 14, then it goes to 12, then it goes to 15, then it goes to, you know, 13, then now it's at 17, but it went all the way to 24 of at the, at the pinnacle of our growth 119 year over year growth in revenue, which was wild to think about, like post-covid. Now we have a studio boom, boom, boom, and it's. We had 24 departments, 24 team members and a charity. I mean that was too much too soon. Too much too soon.

Alan Lazaros:

And you don't know how to lead, because you've never really led a whole team and you don't know how to create a company culture yet you don't know how to communicate effectively to all these different walks of life. You don't even know what your core values are yet for the company versus your personal core values. And some people are all over the world, right, you've got Spain, you've got Philippines, you've got across the country, you've got Canada, all this Italy, and it's okay. So what the fuck Like? You think this way, you think this way. Okay, minimum wage is different everywhere. Okay, so cost of living is different everywhere, and the whole thing is just. It's just trial by fire, dude.

Alan Lazaros:

So my last piece here is if you lose belief every time you fail, you are going to fucking lose. You have to hold on to belief along the way, and that's why you need someone in your corner who's gonna believe in you, because when you don't believe in yourself, you will stop, and if you stop it, you'll never. I mean everything I just shared that's been really meaningful and awesome. Never would have happened if we stopped. This episode wouldn't have happened if we had given up. And we just never gave up and we never will. And I know that sounds overly simple, but as long as you keep finding a way to keep going, you can do amazing things over time.

Kevin Palmieri:

The hard part about all the external stuff is it seems like it's external. There was more internal change than anything. It's just you have to, you need the context, like the going to Brant's house and being in the movie theater. That was super cool, but it did something internally to me more than anything external. It's not like we left and he gave us a bag of money. It was like, oh, that's possible.

Alan Lazaros:

I just got closer to something that's possible Proximity, and then within three minutes you were freaking out because Grant and I were talking about business and leverage buyouts and stuff. And you're like, oh my God.

Kevin Palmieri:

And then you come to me I'm not smart enough yet, and that was, that was a huge so every win comes with an L and I think that the pendulum so yeah, but the thing I think the hard thing is and it's hard to explain this so many of the things that you'd look at from the outside, looking in and say that was a win, was some of the hardest stuff ever. Internally, yeah, it just looked really. The whole going to California thing was awesome. I was so outside of my comfort zone that whole time.

Alan Lazaros:

It was brutal Anxiety, panic, attacks.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, that was Arizona. That was a different time. Unfortunately, that happened more than once, but that, yeah, oh, you guys are going to Arizona. Oh, brendan Burchard's team gave you free tickets to the event. Meanwhile, I can't even do the breathwork exercises because I think I'm going to have a fucking panic attack and I don't know what it is. That external opportunity created so much internal growth. That is something there's. That external opportunity created so much internal growth. That is something. There's something to that. So that's the biggest thing I want anybody to take away.

Kevin Palmieri:

The milestones are important and the milestones are essentially how you measure things. But beneath that milestone there is thousands of lessons, and many of which were terrible to learn. But now I'm super grateful that I had the opportunity to learn them, because now next time I think that's why this episode is a little bit different, for me at least, because this is a milestone, for sure. But we had 100 and we had 200, 300, 400, 500. It's like, okay, cool, we can stop celebrating the hundreds now. Then we get to 1,000. Like, okay, that's something. Then 1 to a thousand, like okay, that's something. Then 1500 was like, okay, cool, like you know, a thousand plus 500, and now it's 2000. And it's just different.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's just different than I thought it would be, and that goes back to my point of I think everything is a little bit different than you think it's going to be, and sometimes external goes internal, sometimes internals goes external. But yeah, just grateful, grateful for each and every one of you. You listening actually gives us an opportunity to impact people, because if Alan's going to pee so bad, I can tell yeah.

Alan Lazaros:

But I do want to share real quick Kudos to you, man, because I I'm realizing in hindsight I don't often think about this cause. I'm so future-oriented, I'm always thinking about the future, but when I reflect back, you went from no mentors to several multimillionaire mentors, to a mentor that was $150 million net worth and all that kind of stuff. You really went from zero to 60.

Kevin Palmieri:

Too fast. That's why I got anxiety. That's why I got anxiety. Way to go, man. That's too fast. That's why I got anxiety. You survived, man. That's why I got anxiety.

Alan Lazaros:

Way to go man, it's too much. If I unintentionally lessened any of that, I apologize. You did.

Kevin Palmieri:

You definitely did along the way, but you just couldn't understand. You just couldn't. It's interesting. I feel like you're going through now a lot of what I went through in the beginning, in your own unique way. Yeah, yeah, and I'm like I feel really good it's weird for me. Now again.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, it makes sense If my fear is success and your fear is failure. When we were failures, you were struggling and I was fine. And now that we're succeeding, I'm dealing with a whole bunch of stuff Because, yeah, it makes sense. My deepest pain is relationships. Your deepest pain is feeling like a failure and yeah, that doesn't mean I can.

Kevin Palmieri:

Oh, it's fine, everything's good, it's gonna. No, no, there's. No things are good, but yeah, it's, this is. This is the way of it. This is the way of it.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah it's good, it's, it's, it's all, uh, it's all happening. I feel I feel like we're more aware than we've ever been and I feel like that's I definitely believe in myself more than I ever have. I know you do too. However, everything's different than I thought. When it comes to people, I feel like business and all that. I mean I felt like a pretty strong in that, but when it comes to people, I think people are wired very different than I thought and I'm very different than I thought. I'm very different than than the statistical norm of of people, and I think that that's been really hard on me, uh, particularly the last couple of years.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, when one thing changes, everything changes. So if you look at yourself different, you have to look at everybody else different, and and kind of vice versa. For me, if I look at myself different kind of have to look at everything a little bit different, strange stuff. All right, I feel like we gave next level lessons. The entire episode was essentially two really long next level lessons, so we'll spare you of them at the end. But I would say fear chasing is the most important thing ever of all time nice mine is self-belief I'm not so good done yet.

Kevin Palmieri:

Sorry, yeah, I'm not done yet. Wouldn't be an episode if Alan didn't interrupt me 2,000, like of course, do something.

Kevin Palmieri:

If you could do just a little something every day. That scares you. I'm not saying you have to go hang off a cliff. If you, you're getting going to have pizza this weekend. Somebody shout out to Richard said Domino's has testing stuffed crust. I need to investigate. I'm not privy to this information. I need to investigate as a cheat meal, handmade pan, handmade pan. If you're like ah, you know, I don't want to call Weird. I always get nervous when I call Call. Don't use the fucking app Call. Use the fucking app call. That's it, that's your. That's your little one percent fear chase. So do a little bit of that every day or start once a week whatever works best.

Alan Lazaros:

My next level lesson is what I said earlier, which is self-belief. State, prove, self-assign. If you have level three, self belief, like kevin did at the beginning, set a level four goal, shoot for it, prove to yourself you can do it. And then self-assign it once you do, and then see what else you can do, see what else you can do, see what else you can do. And when you do, take a fucking l which you will, there's going to be big l's. You're going to fail. No one succeeds every time. No one wins every game no one you. You have to get back on the horse. You have to get back up stronger and smarter, and you can. You, you got this.

Kevin Palmieri:

Boom, all right. Next Level Nation. If you uh, just go to the website. If you're interested in anything that we do, just go to the website. There is a bunch of stuff on there Free stuff, paid stuff. Next Level Live 2025 is April 5th, so we have a lot of stuff coming up. Group coaching is starting April 15th. There's a lot of stuff. Just head on over to the website nextleveluniversecom and check it out. That's it. That's it for this episode. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, super, super, super. Grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family.

Kevin Palmieri:

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