Next Level University

The Truth About Being “All-In” (2003)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

Share episode

Do you really need to be all in to succeed? Some people say you can’t win unless you give everything, while others find success juggling different passions. In today’s episode, Kevin and Alan talk about what “all in” actually means, why it’s different for everyone, and how to decide the right level of commitment for your goals. Whether aiming for the top or looking to improve, this conversation will challenge your thoughts about dedication, effort, and success.

_____________________

NLU is not just a podcast; it’s a gateway to a wealth of resources designed to help you achieve your goals and dreams. From our Next Level Dreamliner to our Group Coaching, we offer a variety of tools and communities to support your personal development journey.

For more information, please check out our website at the link below. 👇

Website 💻  http://www.nextleveluniverse.com

_______________________

Any of these communities or resources are FREE to join and consume
Next Level Nation - https://www.facebook.com/groups/459320958216700
Next Level 5 To Thrive (free course) - ​​https://bit.ly/3xffver
Next Level U Book Club - https://bit.ly/3BQBYDr

_______________________

We love connecting with you guys! Reach out on Instagram, Facebook, or via email. We’re here to support you in your personal and professional development journey.

Instagram 📷
Kevin: https://www.instagram.com/neverquitkid/
Alan: https://www.instagram.com/alazaros88/

Facebook ✍
Alan: https://www.facebook.com/alan.lazaros
Kevin: https://www.facebook.com/kevin.palmieri.90/

Email 💬
Kevin@nextleveluniverse.com
Alan@nextleveluniverse.com

LinkedIn ✍
Kevin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-palmieri-5b7736160/
Alan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanlazarosllc/

_______________________

Show notes:
(3:19) Levels of commitment and realistic expectations
(5:32) How context affects effort and success
(7:52) The difference between dabbling and mastery
(12:18) Why top achievers don’t spread themselves too thin
(14:26) Are you truly all in or just doing enough?
(17:09) Next Level Dreamliner: the planner, agenda, journal, and habit tracker to rule them all. Get a copy:  https://a.co/d/9fPpxEt
(20:11) The drive to push past comfort
(23:38) Frustration, expectations, and self-belief
(28:46) Success and commitment—what’s the right balance?
(30:21) Outro

Send a text to Kevin and Alan!

Kevin Palmieri:

Are you all in to the degree you want to be? Yeah, I am Cool. So you're all in to the degree that you want to be and you understand why you're getting the results that you're getting and you're not dissatisfied. Nope, completely okay. Completely content. Okay, I don't have an argument for that. Then you're all in to the degree that you want to be. All in, I'm all for that.

Alan Lazaros:

Are you the type of person who wants to be like my client, who just wants to do city council and wants to be a dancer and she did the Tarzan musical and she choreographed the whole thing? I mean, she's a badass in many regards, but she's never going to be the top of any industry and that's okay with her. And regardless of whether or not you and I are ever at the top of any industry, we're going to keep climbing to the highest that we can climb.

Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University. I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri.

Alan Lazaros:

And I'm your co-host.

Kevin Palmieri:

Alan Lazarus At NLU. We believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros:

Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life love health and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri:

We bring you a new episode every single day, on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros:

Self-improvement in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. Welcome to.

Kevin Palmieri:

Next Level University Next Level Nation. Welcome back to another episode of Next Level University, where we help you level up your life, your love, your health and your wealth. Today for episode number 2003,. The Truth About being All In. I do believe now that I was a bit of a hypocrite.

Alan Lazaros:

Whoa Appreciate it. Ownership.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, ownership is good. Ownership is good as long as you don't take too much ownership. I used to think that. I used to think that if you weren't all in, you were out.

Alan Lazaros:

You fucking hypocrite. Yeah, yeah, I'm the worst. Everybody, everybody. I'm kidding, I'm in a playful mood, it's all good.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, I think I used to be the guy that said if you're not all in, you're out. And now I think I don't know Alan and I didn't talk about this before, so I'm curious to see where Alan goes. But I think there are levels to all in based on a lot of things.

Kevin Palmieri:

Based on a lot of different circumstances, a lot of different factors and, ultimately, what the goal is. We have clients that we're working with who have a very, very, very high-level coach I'm going to keep it all anonymous just because but very, very famous in our industry, super successful coach Nice, and he sent them a video that they sent for me to watch as well, and he essentially said if you guys really want to start winning, you have to start taking this way more seriously. I like it. You can't. You're dabbling too much for the results that you want and that, I think, is a really good redirection.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, but I think it would be really easy for me to say oh, you want to get more fit, you've got to go all in. You've got to make sure you're drinking a gallon of water a day. You've got to exercise an hour a day. You've got to do mobility in the morning. You've got to make sure you're getting your sleep. You better order an Oura ring. You're probably going to get you some supplements. You probably want to be on some creatine stuff like that. Yeah, maybe that's all in, depending on what your goal is, but that's not where all in is for most people.

Alan Lazaros:

So yeah, that was my thought for today's episode.

Kevin Palmieri:

Where will we go? I don't know, because I'm curious to your take, but I don't think all in is what I thought it was.

Alan Lazaros:

The first thing I want to share. I'm trying to do a little mini playful disclaimer before I speak anywhere doing anything, context, I think, is important. So Next Level University 2,000 episodes awesome, very, very grateful. I realize the more I've done coaching, training, podcasting, the more context matters. It really matters so much. If you're talking to a group of business owners, that's a very different conversation than a group of business owners that all have, you know, six figure businesses. Very different than a group of business owners that all have million dollar per year. Businesses. Very different than 10 million, very different than 100 million, and we all know. And again, kevin and I aren't parents yet, but we we've actually spoken to kids before and you have to speak. We we gave a speech once to a 11 year old, seven year old couple, other kids in the room and it was the hardest speech we've ever done to date, in my opinion, second hardest if you include that training that was really, really.

Kevin Palmieri:

I've blocked that out. That doesn't even exist in my universe anymore.

Alan Lazaros:

But the reason why it was so hard is because Kevin and I, when we were prepping for it, like what are we going to talk about?

Alan Lazaros:

I don't remember what it was like to be 11. And you were like, well, I can talk about Little League. I was like, okay, cool, yeah. But the point that I'm making here is the disclaimer in this conversation. Conversation is all in number one. You're here to improve yourself and to improve your life. So anything that I share, the sincere effort, is in that direction.

Alan Lazaros:

Whether or not you like it or not, or like me or not, I want to table that and and just, we're trying to help you improve yourself in your life. So you talk to a five-year-old different than a seven-year-old, different than a nine-year-old, different than a 15-year-old, different than a nine-year-old, different than a 15-year-old, and I think that when we become adults, I think we have this ego that wants us to believe that that stops. It's like, well, I'm 30, so talk to me like I'm an adult. Well, you're not. Just, kevin at 35 is infinitely different, exponentially different than Kevin at 25, than Kevin at 15. I have to talk to all three of those Kevins differently.

Alan Lazaros:

And so, on the podcast, it's challenging, but all in is predicated on the size of your goals and it's a spectrum zero to 10. So if you have a level 10 goal in terms of difficulty, right. So if you play a video game on easy or normal or legendary, when you play it on legendary legendary you have to be more all in, you have to put more time and effort. I remember playing again back in the halo days legendary was really hard and I started there. Everyone's like starting on easy and normal. I just wanted to play on legendary but I couldn't get past certain spots. I kept dying and eventually that paid off long term because I ended up much better than other people once we were able to connect online. But I realize now what I didn't realize back then in the early days is that if you want to achieve level 10 difficulty goals, you will have to be level 10, all in. If you want to achieve level 7 difficulty goals, you will have to be level 7, all in. If you want to achieve level seven difficulty goals, you will have to be level seven, all in. And I think it's it's a spectrum and some people don't.

Alan Lazaros:

I have one client I'm thinking of. She isn't really that all in and she owns it. She's like yeah, I like doing a bunch of different things. She does judo, she does politics, she's running for city council, she's blah, blah, blah and she isn't that all in and I had to have a conversation with her and say I just want you to know I've learned a lot in this coaching. I'm really grateful to have coached you. It's been an honor. I know you've learned a lot too. We've had great discussions. But I can't really help you achieve goals that are at level 10 because you're not willing to go all in at level 10. And you've told me that like it's not a negative thing, you just are like I don't, you're not all in.

Alan Lazaros:

I had to call her out for that and and call her out probably sounds wrong, but it was kind of like listen, you're not gonna win. She has some people that she listens to in our industry that are very successful. I'm talking, you know, billionaire level and I said, well, you learn from that person. Do you want to be like that person? Because for me, I often in the past would learn from people that I wanted to aspire to that level, whatever it was. So in Halo I had my certain people that I was trying to get to In this industry. You know the Tony Robbins and that kind of thing and again, I had my certain people that I was trying to get to In this industry, you know the Tony Robbins and that kind of thing. And again, I'm not really doing that anymore. But the point is in fitness, it was Greg Plitt and all that I always had something to point to that would at least put me in the right direction of the goals I was trying to achieve. And those goals required level 10 dedication. So you can replace all in with dedication. And what does dedication mean? It means you're willing to sacrifice more than other people for this thing, whatever it might be. And this person I basically said are you okay with and please don't take this wrong, because I don't mean it in the way that it would come off but like, are you okay with and please don't take this wrong because I don't mean it in the way that it would come off but are you okay with being a dabbler?

Alan Lazaros:

Some people they go from thing to thing and they like variety and they like to do a bunch of different stuff. Like Kev, you don't do that much stuff. You're not trying to win at that many things, you're trying to win at a couple things and I think that that is very conducive to what we're trying to accomplish. And if you wanted to snowboard on the side and like also fight on the side and rap on the side, and, you know, have a car channel, and, and, and, and, and, like dude, I would have to say Kev, eventually maybe, but even then you're going to have to dial some of that in. You can't like play tennis and golf and play softball on the weekends, and and, and, and, and like. That's not a math, that's not a thing in achievement.

Alan Lazaros:

If you look at the top achievers of the world, you can study this. They all have one, two, maybe three things that they're extraordinarily good at, and they don't usually do a whole lot of else, and if they do it, it's over a decade. So one decade in bodybuilding, one decade in podcasting, one decade in it's in decades. They're not dabblers, right? Serena Williams played tennis, and pretty much that was it. That was 90% of her life, but that's also what it takes to be Serena Williams. But you might not want to be Serena Williams. If you want to achieve what she's achieved, you're going to have to have level 10. All in this, though.

Kevin Palmieri:

What do you think it feels like to get hit with one of her serves?

Alan Lazaros:

Not good. Right in the throat Probably kill you. If you get hit in the throat, that would be the end of me. You ever see Mr Deeds, of course, a long time ago. What a dumb movie, but funny. It is pretty funny though.

Kevin Palmieri:

I think all it is at the end of the day is it's a conversation of where. Where is what you say you actually want ordered amongst the other things? I think that's really what commitment is, that's what all-in-ness is, because if you have ten things, it's really hard to order them, where the last three things just are almost never going to get done. So you can't really. That's why. That's really why you can't have 10, because the last three unless you say, okay, cool, I'm going to work 10 hours a day and I'm going to dedicate an hour to each thing, it's like, well, that's not. It's really good for getting a lot of stuff, moving the needles a little bit on a lot of stuff, but you're most likely not going to make meaningful progress.

Alan Lazaros:

Kev you in high school. You were an athlete and you were friends with a lot of the athletes In high school.

Kevin Palmieri:

there are three-sport athletes In college that a lot of the athletes in high school. There are three sport athletes.

Alan Lazaros:

In college, that's not a thing. Well, in high school it's easier, because you're not right exactly. You're not playing the best, necessarily I think that's a good metaphor, because in high school you can do soccer again. It depends on the season, because I know I had to snowboard or play basketball, but like it's, it's baseball track. I mean, there was football. I had one person was a three sport athlete, let me think football, track and then baseball. Yeah, yeah, three sport athlete, but when you go to college, no fucking chance especially not a d1 college.

Alan Lazaros:

A lot of people are three sport athletes in high school and then in college they not, because when you compete at that level, it requires more dedication, more all-in, more all-in, on one sport, and then when you play as a professional I mean how many people in the world play at the professional level multiple sports?

Kevin Palmieri:

Almost none.

Alan Lazaros:

Almost none. Yeah, wasn't there one Bo Bo Jackson.

Kevin Palmieri:

Bo Jackson, there's been people Michael Jordan did, but not well, I mean, he wasn't good at baseball.

Alan Lazaros:

There's been people that have done it I think there's been a few, but If Michael Jordan can't do it, you can't either, and I'm just being kind here.

Kevin Palmieri:

I'm trying to be kind, but also honest, definitely not at that level, but I just think it's a matter of you just can't. It's different if you're, if you're trying to build like, imagine trying to build 10 buildings at the same time by yourself, versus building one building. What do you think is gonna? What do you think is more likely to happen? You're most, you're more likely to build the one building. Yeah, you could do the 10, but they're going to be much smaller, much less results. You're probably going to have a higher likelihood of quitting when you're like I literally have built the basement of these 10 places. This is terrible. We're not even off the ground yet. What are we doing here? Versus? Well, I've been focused on this one house all year. It's my one thing and now I just have to put the roof on. I think those are just very, very different.

Kevin Palmieri:

Now here's where it gets wonky for me. Say like yeah, honestly, I'm not putting in that much effort. So I completely understand why I'm not getting any greater results. It's like okay, are you all in to the degree you want to be? Yeah, I am Cool. So you're all in to the degree that you want to be and you understand why you're getting the results that you're getting and you're not dissatisfied. Nope, completely okay. Completely content, okay, I don't have an argument for that.

Kevin Palmieri:

Then you're, then you're all into the degree that you want to be all in.

Alan Lazaros:

I'm all for that. Can we have that conversation? So I wanted to ask you this, because we used to talk about grateful, dissatisfied.

Kevin Palmieri:

I we just crossed 2000. Grateful ambition, grateful ambition is fair. Yeah, exactly, grateful ambition. Grateful ambition is what we changed?

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, exactly, grateful ambition. And then Emilia and I have had the conversations of like, what matters more aspiration or love, and one's empty without the other type of thing. So this is a fascinating conversation, but I don't know if I've ever been able to really explain. There's people who say the people who are the most successful the only time they're comfortable is when they're uncomfortable. They're uncomfortable being comfortable. I'm definitely in that category for sure. It's comfort is for me. It's just weird. It's like, hmm, everything's good, like I need to up the ante ASAP, rocky, this is fucking terrible. I'm obviously being playful, but there is that part of me that can't settle, cannot for anything ever. I don't know what that is, I don't.

Alan Lazaros:

I do know now that not everyone has that same thing, and let me try to explain this too, because I a lot of times on this podcast we talk authentically about certain things that I can't say hey, I used to be super like, I used to be guilty of this all the time. I was super guilty of this one, like trying to be good at everything. I was so guilty of that. I mean dude, snowboarding, basketball, video game, I mean I was spread too thin and I had a coach early on, named Alex, who said, dude, if you had to pick one, what would it be? And I was like no, no, no, no, I'm doing them all. He's like I'm just hypothetical, hypothetical. And now I say I have that same conversation with people and I said the podcast.

Alan Lazaros:

And he said why? I said, well, I don't need permission to speak. I get to practice my craft every day. Kevin and I have a good thing going. We get to impact people. People are having a big deal like there's there's big changes happening in their lives. It's super fulfilling. Yeah, it's the podcast. He said here's the the irony, here's the paradox if you go all in on that one, you can have all the others. Author, all this other stuff. That's true, that's true in success. So what I wanted to ask you, kev, is do you have a part of you that can't settle either, or are you? Yeah, talk to me.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, no, I can settle, I can settle, I just.

Alan Lazaros:

I know it's not necessarily good. This is a journal that I use every single day. Achieve your dreams 90 days at a time. It breaks down your dreams into goals, milestones and daily habits. We hope you enjoy it. The link will be in the show notes so you're avoiding the pain of what comes with it.

Kevin Palmieri:

I would say that, and I think I'm only able to focus on improving so many things at a time. Okay, there's only so many. I only have so much like such a large container to pour from. I only have so much to improve.

Alan Lazaros:

Okay, the value of this podcast, as I get older I realize is that you and I are different For sure. I cannot fucking like for me. Settling feels like impossible to me, like my having my old physique be better than my current physique. It bothers me every day.

Kevin Palmieri:

Genuinely every day. Did you expect it to be different?

Alan Lazaros:

Yes, I know I'm capable of it being different. So I and this is a self-belief thing, I think underneath it. But for you, I know it bothers you but it doesn't bother you as much. Know it bothers you but it doesn't bother you as much as it bothers me and that's why you're less all in In fitness. It's a bad example because you're pretty all in but like you're not though not at the same level, I'm convinced bodybuilding is easier for you than it is for me.

Alan Lazaros:

I was a tall lanky, you know I was just bones, skin and bones. But the point is, if you're out there watching or listening and you resonate with me, like you cannot settle. I had great, a great relationship in my mid twenties with a wonderful person. I couldn't marry her. I couldn't because I knew somehow that I wasn't supposed to like I can't. I knew that I'd be settling and I know that sounds bad, but it wasn't my person.

Alan Lazaros:

With Emilia I'm 10 out of 10 certain I'm not settling. It's like this is there's no chance that there's someone better for me than her. I know that. I don't know how the fuck, I know that, but I I know that in my soul and I'm old enough to have looked around, but the part of me that cannot settle is always there. It's a fire that's always lit 24-7, 365, it never goes out. Sometimes it's with oil on it or whatever gas, sometimes it's a little candle no, it's never a little candle, but sometimes it's booming, like right now it's really lit and that's why I'm so intense on this episode. And other times it's okay, it's still there, but I haven't thrown any gasoline on it yet today, but it never goes out. For me and for someone on your end, I don't think a lot of people admit what you're admitting, which is like I could totally settle. I just know it's not best for me. I think that's really powerful.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, I think there's levels to it. It's not like I could. Just I couldn't just throw it all on autopilot. I just, For me, sometimes the only way I'll take action is if I say ah, it's good enough. That's the only way I'll take action. What do you mean?

Alan Lazaros:

that's the only way I'll take action. What do you mean?

Kevin Palmieri:

remember, alan and I lived in Florida for a time and our main goal, our number one goal, when we were down there was to record courses. We were going to have courses. That was the thing we wanted to do. Let's make courses, and I did mine pretty early I think, and you waited until almost the end yeah, yeah and my. I did my course. I recorded it, I compiled it and it was alive for a while. I never did anything with it. Yours didn't. Yours never saw the light of day.

Kevin Palmieri:

I don't think I switched from fitness oh yeah, I mine never would have done that if I didn't like settle with what it was it was naturally fit for life. And what was?

Alan Lazaros:

yours on Podcasting Mindset.

Kevin Palmieri:

Mindset. It was the next level mindset, next level mindset.

Alan Lazaros:

We got to bring that break that out of the archives.

Kevin Palmieri:

Give it away for free. I don't think it's gone. I think I deleted it because it was taking up too much space, but it's not.

Alan Lazaros:

It's got, it's gotta be somewhere in that other laptop.

Kevin Palmieri:

That's probably the reason it doesn't it stopped working. Yeah, I I don't think that. I think I can get in my head with oh, it's not, it's not perfect, so I'm not gonna do it. I have to get to a place where I say that's good enough, it's good enough, yeah, but not good enough on the macro right.

Alan Lazaros:

I think that that's something I had to overcome. The the perfectionism thing of this episode is not going to be our best work, but it's going to be better than our old best work, so I want our new best work to be better than our old best work.

Kevin Palmieri:

Let me rephrase that I screwed that up. I just think you're super high on that, so it makes me look like I'm not as high, probably, even though I think I'm probably higher than you think. Okay, no response.

Alan Lazaros:

Quality and quantity. Do you think that the quality of our show is put it?

Kevin Palmieri:

this way, is it?

Alan Lazaros:

to your standard? No, okay, well, shit, we're on the same end, yeah.

Kevin Palmieri:

For the listeners.

Alan Lazaros:

we don't think the show is bad. I actually think, compared to other shows, it's magnificent, but it's not to our standard. This is worse than what I know we're capable of. I always am on that end.

Kevin Palmieri:

But how much of your brain does that take up?

Alan Lazaros:

That's just running right, it's not like a super no, it's always there, yeah, but not like a conch, a super, no, it's always there, yeah, but but how much does it take?

Kevin Palmieri:

I have no idea, I've never not had it, so I think it's taking less than it used to I had it. I had a moment today where I was like I have an idea for new thumbnails I'm gonna send it over to the team. Now I'm back to content. For now it's. I've checked the box, it's no longer taking up space in my brain and I've moved on to the next thing, and eventually it'll start pinging me again and I'll say, ah shit, gotta do something with that what is that predicated on?

Alan Lazaros:

is that predicated on what what it will require to get to the goal or is it predicated on an improvement orientation? Is it predicated on frustration? Self-belief, well yeah, but frustration is a byproduct of not reaching your potential or not reaching a goal. Frustration is an indicator that there's an obstacle in the way of achieving something.

Kevin Palmieri:

I think it's frustration in my expectations versus the reality. I expected this to go a certain way. I expected blank to go a certain way. Blank isn't going a certain way. I'm a little frustrated.

Alan Lazaros:

This is why self-belief is what we talked about last time, which is self-belief sets the expectation for self, and the expectation for self dictates whether or not you are or are not frustrated with said result. Because they're like. This is just an honest conversation. There are certain people that would be thrilled to have our physiques, you know, but the reason we have our physiques is because we're not satisfied with them. I'll never forget this.

Alan Lazaros:

When I was a fitness model, fitness competitor, fitness coach, everyone else thought I was in great shape and not everyone told me that that's not it. But they're like wow, you really turned it around because I used to be tall and lanky. But I remember thinking, yeah, but the only reason I'm in great shape is because I don't think I am. I'm going for something higher. You're impressed with where I am now, but what I'm going for is far beyond where I am now.

Alan Lazaros:

Where everyone is now is a continuum on the way to a goal. So you and I business. What we've achieved right now a lot of people would be thrilled about. But the only reason we got to where we are now is because we're headed somewhere much higher. It's almost like a snapshot on Base Camp 3 when we're headed to Base Camp 15. And it's a mountain that gets higher as you climb it.

Alan Lazaros:

So to me it's the perpetual dissatisfaction with current outcome, because the goal in life in my opinion, the goal of the goal we did that last time is to grow to your potential. But I know that that's not necessarily how everyone's wired. So the idea of not reaching my potential, it's unthinkable, and I remember when I was living below my potential I was so miserable. So for me, I think that's always the barometer and I wonder too, because if you don't have whatever that is, if this isn't resonating for anyone, maybe that client you have that said they're content and they're like we're not all in and we're cool with it and all that. I don't think I've ever really felt that way about anything.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, I think their goals maybe their goals are for something other than what my goal would be. So if, whatever let's say, they get X amount of listens per month or whatever it is, that's not why they're doing it. So for them, showing up when they feel like it is being all in cause, it's not their full time job. I don't know. I think there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of layers to it, but I've definitely I've done things where I'm not all in for sure.

Alan Lazaros:

I have some things that I'm not all in on too, but I don't not the things I participate in. So if I participate in something, that's why I had to tell you I can't play games I can't play video games Because if I'm going to play, I'm going to really play. I have a really hard time. Not all of a sudden, it's going to be me playing.

Kevin Palmieri:

COD every weekend. Not all of a sudden it's going to be me playing cod every weekend. I mean, how much of that is your personality and your conditioning, I guess, and I think that's a rare thing.

Alan Lazaros:

I realize that that's rarer than usual, but here's the next level lesson, from my perspective anyways, and a lot of this is uncomfortable for me to share, just FYI, but again, I hope I set the stage well. The more people I've coached over the years, the more I've come to realize that quality of life matters to all of you a lot more than it does to me. For sure. My day-to-day quality of life doesn't have to be good. It is good, and I think that's a paradox, like it's better than it's ever been, but that isn't my focus. Like I got that projector and that's great, I love it. It's 115 inches, it's. It's great, but it doesn't. That's not why I was doing this. That has nothing to do with why I was doing this. Like that's a little, a little extra gas on the fire, but it's not the main source of fuel for me.

Alan Lazaros:

And so my next level lesson is ask yourself like are you the type of person who wants to be like my client, who just wants to do city council and wants to be a dancer? And she, she did the Tarzan musical and she choreographed the whole thing. I mean, she's a badass in many regards, but she's never going to be the top of any industry, and that's okay with her, um, and regardless of whether or not you and I are ever at the top of any industry, we're going to keep climbing to the highest that we can climb. And I think that I don't know. I think that that's very unique and I think that some percentage of the population will resonate with that, and I think some people won't. And I think the people who do resonate with that have no idea that that's only one way to play.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, I'm willing to bet that more people have been convinced to play. Yeah, I'm willing to bet that more people have been convinced to play big than play small. I'm convinced that many people have been convinced that they're supposed to be all in on everything that they do, and I'm trying not to further that.

Kevin Palmieri:

I think it's because the results that people want are usually a byproduct of being all in Well, but I think it's because the results that people want are usually a byproduct of being all in Well, but I think it all starts with if you don't know what success is for you, then how do you know how all in you're supposed to be Right? We use that example of Brandon on the team. He should not have gone all in on the podcast, agreed. Not to the degree we have Agreed, maybe his own unique, all in Agreed.

Alan Lazaros:

Right, what's your next level lesson? I know we gotta jump.

Kevin Palmieri:

I would sit with. What do you think all-in means for you, is it? I can't, I can't.

Kevin Palmieri:

There's this movie oh it's 40-year-old virgin where he says I can't return my blade to its sheath until it has seen blood, or something like that, and every time I hear that I think of that quote. Very dirty movie, but I definitely had some laughs. Yeah, it would just be identified. This would be an identify success next level lesson for me, because if success to you is yachts and mansions and benzes and champagne and all that like you're gonna have to go more all in than somebody whose success is I want to make sure I can see my kids games.

Kevin Palmieri:

Cool your level of all in is going to be completely different. And then it's all in on what you're all in on family, all in on fatherhood or motherhood, awesome, whatever, yeah. So identify what all in means and identify what category you want to put it in Choosing the wrong.

Alan Lazaros:

All in is, I think, the problem, more than going all in. I would concur with that.

Kevin Palmieri:

I would concur with that All right, I'm all in on being on time for my next call. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you.

Alan Lazaros:

At NLU. We don. We have family.

Kevin Palmieri:

We will talk to you all tomorrow, stay Next Level, next Level Nation. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros:

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

People on this episode

Head Shot

Alan Lazaros

Host
Head Shot

Kevin Palmieri

Host