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Bad Questions Get Worse Answers (2010)

Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

Your questions determine your destiny. In this episode, Kevin and Alan explain why bad questions lead to bad answers—and how asking better ones can unlock new opportunities. They discuss the power of curiosity, why humility makes you a better learner, and how even “dumb” questions can lead to powerful insights.

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Show notes:
(3:40) Curiosity unlocks better conversations
(7:38) The importance of experience in forming questions
(9:37) Interviewing techniques for deeper insights
(12:30) Hard questions lead to real growth
(16:01) Join Next Level Live: A virtual, immersive event for those committed to growth, meaningful relationships, and a life they love. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/next-level-live/
(18:55) The role of brainstorming in success
(22:47) Why bad questions are better than none
(27:32) The power of second and third questions
(30:25) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri:

I am certain one of the best ways to get a terrible answer to a question is to ask a bad question. I was in a Facebook group today and somebody said hey, I just started a podcast. Any advice? Like yes, ask a better question, because you're probably not going to get really good advice if nobody knows what you're looking for.

Alan Lazaros:

So curiosity I call it humble curiosity leads to questions. Thinking is nothing more or less than constantly asking and answering questions, and that's why I love Google and ChatGPT and all these things, that you get, all these awesome answers that you can then go and implement. So your life gets better as long as you're asking better and better questions.

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Kevin Palmieri:

Next Level University Completely free. Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation Today for episode number 2010,. Bad Questions Get Worse Answers. As you heard in the intro, there we're talking about some bad questions that maybe we have asked and maybe bad answers we have gotten from them. It's interesting that you mentioned a chat GPT and that stuff, cause I was thinking to myself isn't it weird?

Kevin Palmieri:

One of my favorite ways to start a sentence, isn't it weird that now, one of the things that people get like credibility and credit and clout, as the kids say for, is how well you talk to a robot, the questions you ask a robot, like you know the prompts to ask in order to get certain answers. Isn't that really weird? You probably expected that, but it's really weird. When I I'll see people that say like yeah, I, I'm a chat gpt expert. It's like okay, you're really good at talking to a robot and you know the right questions to ask, and that's a really weird thing that I never thought was going to be valuable and super valuable now yeah, I, I think that's probably.

Alan Lazaros:

It's probably a me thing, I don't think it's a you thing, I think I think it's probably something that I've been asking questions my entire life, so I feel like that's probably a skill. I was with Emilia's dad just got back from Japan yesterday. We went and saw her family yesterday and the first question I asked him is the question I love to ask, which is what's one thing that I would never know unless I visited. I'm always trying to ask those things because I'm looking for okay, well, I didn't go have that experience, but what can I learn from his experience? Because he just spent, you know however many hours in a plane, however much money on hotels, but he's been there. So what can I gain from this conversation? That's one thing that my very first podcast YouTube channel as Kevin insists he was the first guest was Conversations Change Lives. The reason why Conversations Change Lives if I were to elaborate on that title is because conversations don't change lives unless there's great questions that are asked from intelligent people that have powerful answers.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's a long-ass name, though, for a podcast.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, well, that's exactly what I did.

Kevin Palmieri:

Sorry, slash YouTube channel. No, no, it's okay, it was a podcast. It was a long ass name, though, for a podcast. Yeah, well, that's exactly what I did. Sorry, slash YouTube channel. No, no, it's okay, it was a podcast.

Alan Lazaros:

It was a podcast. It was gonna be a podcast.

Kevin Palmieri:

When you're working with someone and they ask you a question. This is a good example, and I don't think Emilia would Mind me saying this. There are times when Emilia will ask me a question and I'll say Ask me the same thing, but make it 10 times simpler.

Alan Lazaros:

Same question.

Kevin Palmieri:

Oh, all the time yeah yeah, make it simpler, because the answer's going to be all over the place and if I don't know what you're talking about, what is your? How do you ensure, when somebody is asking you a question, it's a valuable question?

Alan Lazaros:

Dude, I don't know. I mean know that's, I mean that's a great dialogue we're having, but I think that I've been doing this for so long that I don't I don't even know if I know how I'm doing, what I'm doing there are certain reframe sorry. I know, I knew you were getting ready, but again I had one in the holster, I know it was.

Kevin Palmieri:

It was on its way out, but I it was, it was on its way out, but I know what advice. Yeah, it's gonna be. This is gonna be a harder question, honestly, but what advice would you give to somebody who wants to ask better questions?

Alan Lazaros:

you have to get more curious. I think you have to go to the curiosity. I don't think so. You and I. For eight years you've been asking me questions more behind the scenes than in front, but both I don't want people to you and I, for eight years you've been asking me questions More behind the scenes than in front, but both I don't want people to know.

Kevin Palmieri:

That's why I do it behind the scenes.

Alan Lazaros:

I know it all Quake, quake, nudge, nudge. Just so you know, I know it all. Yeah, I know it all.

Kevin Palmieri:

I don't even have to ask questions about anything to anybody.

Alan Lazaros:

And I think over time your brain has picked up on I was talking to Amelia this weekend the brain. We don't talk about it enough, but what makes Kevin Kevin is Kevin's brain. I mean, I could lop off an arm, you're still Kev, right? I can't lop off a piece of your brain and have you still be Kev. And I don't think we realize that it's the brain. I mean, that is it right? So you know, obviously body matters too, but the brain is the most important.

Alan Lazaros:

There's a lot you can do to the body and still be alive and still be conscious and still be you. There's very little you can do to the brain, where you're still you, which is why, when I got a concussion snowboarding, I never not wore a helmet again Holy crap, but anyways. So what was my point of all that? Oh, your brain has just been picking up on things that I've been saying for the last eight years. And the books I mean all the books that I've suggested you read.

Alan Lazaros:

It's not for any one tactic, it's for you to understand something you never understood before, so that you can go oh, and then you can make better choices. So, ask a better question, get a better answer. Get a better answer, get a better understanding. Get a better understanding. Now you can make better choices. Because when you're a kid and this is a good example like a, seven-year-olds don't really know anything, so they can't make good choices. So if a seven-year-old does something really dumb or dangerous, we blame the parents, and the reason why is because the parents are far more aware hopefully and it's yeah, exactly that's.

Alan Lazaros:

That's a fair assessment. But a lot of people aren't curious because they're not humble. I think humility is the most underrated character trait in the world. Self-belief is sexy. Humility isn't Not that sexy. Never understood, dude, I didn't get. First of all, I never thought I was humble because everyone thought I was arrogant. But I think when it comes to curiosity and humility, I feel like I've always been very curious. I've been asking questions from smart people my whole life. I used to at college I would find the smartest people I could find and then ask them questions and get them to debate each other so that I could just learn Seriously.

Kevin Palmieri:

Regularly. I believe it. I think the hard part is you. It's hard to ask a question, it's hard to desire an answer that you don't know exists. You have to. There has to be one domino. So I've been watching a lot of. Remember I used to talk about this dude named Matt Armstrong.

Kevin Palmieri:

He has a YouTube channel where he fixes up cars and he started he was like working at a restaurant, he fixes up cars and he started he was like working at a restaurant. He said I'm gonna do this youtube thing and now he's just crushing it nice. Last night I was watching a video where they they bought a rolls royce suv, so it's like a 500 or 600 000 vehicle that was in a flood. Because that's what they do they buy these things, and they're like all right, we're going to find a way to fix it. And the reason I can't do that is because I don't know, I don't have the right series of questions and answers of okay, when I try to turn the car on, it makes this noise, or I get this code that goes to this and the fix for this is this and this is where I can find it. So I think that's why it's really hard to ask valuable questions, because you kind of have to have the string to pull, and maybe that is just a curiosity thing.

Alan Lazaros:

You gave a speech on questions to a group of podcasters and YouTubers.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah.

Alan Lazaros:

What was your main takeaway?

Kevin Palmieri:

The better you know the answer, the better the questions you can ask. Are I know so much about you. If I wanted to do like a world-class and again this is going to sound arrogant, I don't mean it this way If I wanted to do a world-class interview, I don't know. I know there's very little that you're going to say that I haven't heard you say already. It's up to me to take the answers and then form the questions, but that's how I've always done, the way I used to do interviews. I did not want to learn anything new about the guest. That wasn't my job. At least, that's not what I thought my job was. My job was to get the guest to say the thing that I knew would be super impactful. That would make the biggest change for the listener. And you always were doing the curiosity thing, which, yeah, working behind say, yeah, well, I learned a lot.

Alan Lazaros:

But I think in hindsight your way was better for the listener because I thought that if I scratch my own itch of curiosity, everyone would benefit, and I think they will. But it's all contextual, so if you're a business owner for you'll benefit more than if you're not. And I remember one time, kev, you and I were in the studio I'll never forget. There's certain things I'll never forget and you said how do you know all this? And it was obviously a moment when I had kind of gone beyond what you thought I knew. And I remember saying I had to know all this. That was my answer and let me unpack that. My goals required me to know all this. Like, you know how to use google sheets now pretty well. Now you're not a 10 out of 10, but you're probably 7 out of 10. You don't just wake up one day and go. I think I'm gonna go learn google sheets.

Alan Lazaros:

Human beings only learn to get their goals. For the most part, people don't learn to learn. Usually that's actually a huge problem because you don't know People don't learn to learn. Usually that's actually a huge problem because you don't know what you don't know. So, for example, the conscious couples podcast. I've learned so much about relationships, intimate relationships, over the last four years because I had to. I've set my life up in a way where I'm constantly learning by necessity and I think that the questions that you should be asking yourselves and these suck, like I need to make this as clear as possible and I need to stop saying like why do I say so many filler words? Boom, boom, boom. That's a good question, but one of the reasons why I think this podcast is so hard for me is because the questions you have to ask yourself to actually improve are not good. They suck. So let me give you some of the ones that I ask myself all the time. Where am I inadequate right now? Where am I being arrogant? Where might I be fucking up? Where might we be losing momentum? What's the best use of my time right now? What's my biggest bottleneck right now? What's my biggest limiting belief right now? None of these are good. These all make you feel terrible.

Alan Lazaros:

You need to be very careful about only asking questions that make you feel good about yourself. You also have to be careful about only asking questions that make you feel bad about yourself, because I was telling Kev earlier I said, I woke up today, monday, and I'm not feeling super great about myself, but the reason why is because our goals are so big that we're kind of we're winning compared to every you know most statistical norms, but we're always losing up against our own potential up or up against our own goals. Like, if you're shooting to build a half million dollar per year business, you're going to feel like a loser at four 50. It doesn't mean you're a loser, it just means you feel like you're losing at your own game. And so you and I have talked a lot about how to, and so one of the reasons why this podcast is so hard for people.

Alan Lazaros:

So anyone out there watching or listening, I kudos to you, because this podcast doesn't really make you feel very good about yourself. It's, it's not designed for that. We're not here to feel good about ourselves. We're not here to feel bad about ourselves. We're here to improve ourselves, and in order to improve yourself, you basically have to ask questions that help you see your weaknesses and inadequacies, so that you can go either be aware of them or work on them, or both, and so the questions that I think are the most powerful are things like what's a limiting belief that I have that has disguised itself as empowering. So I'll give you an answer.

Alan Lazaros:

The answer is me being optimistic is actually a bottleneck, because I'm naive, and when you hear me say that, a lot of people don't say that they're like oh no, I'm very confident and I'm accurate and all this stuff. They act like they've arrived. I don't like doing that to me. I am naive, extremely naive. I'm not more naive than anyone else, but I'm way more naive than I have to be to succeed. And so the higher you, the higher you aim in life toward your own unique version of success. Like, if you're climbing Mount Everest and you're even a little bit naive, you're going to die. If you're climbing Mount Wachusett, you can be naive like I was and just climb it and run out of water and you're still fine.

Kevin Palmieri:

Mount Wachusett is a little mountain around where we grew up.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, for the vast 99.9 of you probably don't know how do you, how do you get people to ask questions that are powerful but not making them feel bad about themselves? Because, honestly, most of the questions that are useful actually make you feel like your life is failing, not succeeding.

Kevin Palmieri:

I don't know. I don't know if I have a good answer for that, Understanding that there's so much value under the answer, even if it doesn't feel good at first. I mean, that's what if the reason you are not getting what you want out of life yet is because you, it's two things it's one you don't know how to. Two, you haven't asked the right questions to uncover what you don't know. And again, obviously, you have to go to work and do it. It's not that simple, but I don't know. I don't know. Let's talk about what questions you're ready to ask and get answers to. Maybe Do you feel like you're ready to? On a scale of 0 to 10, how consistent are you? I don't know. Probably like a five, Okay, Okay, Cool. What would a six look like? Well, I'd be doing this and this.

Kevin Palmieri:

Okay, To the best of your knowledge, to the best of your ability, to the best of your awareness, why aren't you doing it? Nice that, right there it might be. You know, I don't know. Sometimes I just feel like I'm lazy, Okay, well, what does lazy mean to you? There, you're off to the races Now. Maybe you never get to the place where you say if you walked out in front of your house tomorrow and got hit by a massive bus and died. Would you regret being lazy Shithead?

Alan Lazaros:

Probably not the place to go.

Kevin Palmieri:

You might never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever want to hear that from someone. There's other people out there that want to hear that right now, but that doesn't mean you should.

Alan Lazaros:

I don't want to hear that I'd be like.

Kevin Palmieri:

first of all, be nice. You have to drop the shithead there at the end.

Alan Lazaros:

You could have just asked me that question.

Kevin Palmieri:

I did that for you know, dramatic effect, of course, of course, next Level Nation. We are very, very excited to announce that we are doing our first purely virtual Next Level Live. On April 5th 2025, from 10 am to 4 pm Eastern Standard Time, alan and myself will be live streaming from Worcester, massachusetts.

Alan Lazaros:

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Kevin Palmieri:

We have a global audience. Obviously, if you live somewhere else in the world, it's hard to come across the country or across the world for a one-day event, so we wanted to make sure it was accessible to everyone.

Alan Lazaros:

You're not going to get to the next level of your life by default. You're going to get there by design. Join us, design that next level. You're going to get there by design. Join us, design that next level. The thing that I've never been able to. I don't even know if I understand this yet, but I certainly can't articulate it. Okay, how do you know the right question to ask, dude? Where do you even start on that one? That's a question. Okay, what's the answer? Well, there's an optimal question to ask for the right context of a person, and this is why I always go back to goals. I can't not talk about goals in the context of this conversation, because if you don't have any goals, there is no right or wrong question. If you're a horseback rider, you have to ask very different questions than if you're a podcaster. Yeah, then if you're a basketball player, then if you're a podcaster than if you're a basketball player, than if you're a computer engineer.

Kevin Palmieri:

So, do you think there's a right answer? Do you think there's a right answer to any question?

Alan Lazaros:

That's dumb, because yes, but there's an optimal one based on the person, the context and the goal. That's like asking if there's a right turn for a self-driving car. Yes, there is, but it depends on where you're going and what the car is.

Kevin Palmieri:

But after the car takes the turn, it now knows that it could have taken the turn better and it will do so next time. That's machine learning right there.

Alan Lazaros:

That's also not just machine learning, but human learning is the same exact concept Machine learning and human learning are the same thing.

Kevin Palmieri:

Machine learning was invented based on human learning. I would much rather somebody ask a dumb question. Because a dumb question?

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, yeah, Now again that kind of eliminates what we talked about here at the beginning. But I think it's fair to say bad questions get bad answers, but no questions get no answers Fire. And at least at least and yes, I'm going to contradict myself in this very episode At least if you ask a dumb question, hopefully the answer you get is somewhat constructive and not somebody saying what I said at the top, like ask better questions.

Alan Lazaros:

I don't really. No, no, no, but that is a good answer. It's only the ego that makes that a bad answer. Fair, fair, fair, dude, a dumb question gets an answer which leads to a less dumb question, fair or a more smart one, depending how you want to frame it. The reason words are so hard for me is because you can frame them in the positive or the negative. So if I ask a question to Kevin what's the biggest bottleneck in your life right now? Okay, that's a question. He gives me an answer which leads to another question. He gives me an answer which leads to another question. What's going to happen in that process is we're going to identify the bottleneck and then we're going to identify the bottleneck and then we're going to ask questions to brainstorm a solution. The the reason I love human beings and the human brain and neuroscience and all this stuff is because our brain is capable of solutions. This is going to be a silly reference, but I'll go quick with it.

Alan Lazaros:

Jungle book the there's two actually. One's called mogli, one's called Jungle Book, the real live action series. One the animals are like blown away by Mowgli's ability to tie a rope and climb the tree and get the honey. Baloo is like a big bear who loves honey, and he basically hoodwinks Mowgli to get all the honey from the bees. But animals can't do contemplative thinking and long-term strategic thinking, so he creates tools that the animals cannot create, and that's what makes us uniquely human. We can build buildings, we can build phones, we can build fucking stream yard. We can build the camera. I think about this all the time. I watched a video recently I don't know if I sent it to you the first invention of toilet paper no did I not?

Alan Lazaros:

yeah, so uh, toilet paper was invented in the early 1800s and apparently I don't know what they did before. But invention all comes through brainstorming. The unsung heroes of NLU, of every company, is brainstorming. So the iPhone was always possible, we just didn't know how to do it. The camera was always possible, we just didn't know how to do it. The camera was always possible, we just didn't know how to do it. The stream yard was always possible, we just didn't know how to do it.

Alan Lazaros:

Or there wasn't a big enough need, perceived need. So all of a sudden, when covid happened, there was a big perceived need for these weights that I wanted that were interchangeable. They were going for like 800 bucks when they were yeah, and the reason why is because the need increased. So there's always solutions, but life is nothing more or less. Unfortunately, this is going to be depressing, but it really is identifying problems, identifying the root cause of those problems and then identifying solutions. And then, once you have a solution and you know this more than anyone, kevin business there's another bunch of problems that come up. Just got it recently.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, I was saying that to Taryn. We're working with a very big new client and there's a lot of money at stake, which is awesome. And then it was like, oh, okay, you're ready to switch now? Okay, cool. And then there's a list of 15 things that have to get done that I don't know how to do yet, so I that's when you get a new layer of questions. That's when you get a new layer of questions.

Kevin Palmieri:

I think the more you level up your self-awareness, you know what questions to ask about yourself, or ask to yourself, or ask for yourself, whatever. And then, whatever your thing is, if your thing is construction, you know better questions to ask. If you're a contractor and you're going to go buy a house, you have better questions than I do If you're, if you're a doctor or a nurse or somebody who works in the medical field, you have better questions to ask when you drop your kids off at daycare about their safety protocols than I would ever have, when you drop your kids off at daycare about their safety protocols than I would ever have. You have better questions because you already have more answers than I do, and there's just something to that, so I just want to touch on it real quick, because I did contradict myself.

Kevin Palmieri:

I would much rather somebody ask a stupid question than no question. Myself included, I've asked a lot of dumb questions. Hopefully the person that gives you the answer is also trying to give you an answer and not just an ego-type deal, because that's kind of what the opening was. It was like in my mind. There was a piece of me that thought ask a better question Because the people in the group are not going to know how to answer you. I think a piece of that for me is because this is a podcaster who's going to be screwed if they don't get the answers to the right questions. So if any ego came out, I think that's why. But I'd rather ask you. I'd rather you ask a bad question, a misaligned question, a question that produces very little answer, than no question at all, because you don't get any input that way, and input is good, even if it's not ideal.

Alan Lazaros:

I am able to brag about you because you won't, and I think that's really important, because I don't think a lot of people are allowed to share things that they're doing really well for whatever reason. In the social world that's just not accepted. So yesterday, at the dinner table with Emilia's family, I said well, I'm going to brag about her because I know she won't, and they learned a lot about her that they wouldn't have known. So one thing that I want to share about you that I know you wouldn't necessarily share, because you don't want to come off like an arrogant, pretentious prick, it's fair, but you have been brainstorming regularly for eight years.

Alan Lazaros:

I mean you brainstorm all the time. And that's a good question for everybody out there how often and how much do you brainstorm? And with the right people, because brainstorming is the unsung hero of all progress, but it's not fun, I mean. I like it. Obviously you do too. I do now. I didn't always, but a lot of times it's uncomfortable. That's mean I like it. Obviously you do too. I do now. I didn't always, but a lot of times it's uncomfortable.

Alan Lazaros:

That's what book club is. I mean, it's just constantly brainstorming. Let's read this book, do we agree? Let's share our past, present, future. What's going on? I don't know if it's fun or not, I don't really care. I think what matters is that when you become more aware, there's three things there's resources, there's skills and there's awareness. And brainstorming can bring ways to get more resources, more skills and more awareness. And it's this compound effect. Every episode is Kevin and I brainstorming so that everyone can leave with something. You will leave this episode smarter, you just will. That's what this podcast, that's what the point of this podcast is. And so you've been brainstorming from the moment I met you, well, from the moment we reconnected. We knew each other in middle school and high school. But from the moment you and I reconnected eight years ago, I mean we've been brainstorming, I mean five times a week, minimum, for eight years, and the version of Kevin and Alan eight years ago. I mean if we got to talk to them we would be alarmed at how dumb they are.

Kevin Palmieri:

I don't think I would. I would for sure, I don't think I would.

Alan Lazaros:

Let me use a different label. How unaware they were.

Kevin Palmieri:

I still. I know how unaware I was. Brother, you know well, you had higher awareness of your unawareness than I do.

Alan Lazaros:

Of course, but you wouldn't be like dude, I think you'd be oh whoa I think about it all the time, man you do eight years ago, dude, we didn't I mean again, we weren't I think about it all the time I don't want to say we were ignorant, because we were, we were doing the best we could. I'm not making us, I'm not. I don't think we were done. That's not my point. We were much less aware. We were exponentially less aware than we are now about people, about the world, about life, about everything.

Kevin Palmieri:

And I think sure there would be some stuff that would surprise me. I mean, that would be. It would be dumb of me to say that it wouldn't, but I do think I had a pretty good grasp on how unaware I was. I knew awareness was the prescription I needed, so I made a podcast about becoming the most aware I could possibly be and then went all in on it. It's like this could be something. Let me give this a shot here.

Alan Lazaros:

So far so good.

Kevin Palmieri:

This is my kryptonite lack of awareness.

Alan Lazaros:

All right what is your next level lesson for the audience? The questions that you are asking yourself are are dictating a lot of your future. A lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. That's why journaling is so. That's why getting the right mentor or coach is so powerful, and brainstorming is the unsung hero, even if it's alone. Do you know how much time I spend alone? Just like what the fuck is next? Like what am I missing? All the time, brother? I mean, I'm always how do I?

Kevin Palmieri:

I get messages at three o'clock in the morning, so I'm sure that's where they come from.

Alan Lazaros:

Exactly, and so thinking and brainstorming, it's the part of the work no one sees, but it's the most important.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, it's the most important. Mine would be the second question is most likely going to be way more impactful than the first. The third will most likely be way more impactful than the second, and you just rinse and repeat that forever. So if you said to someone I mean it's not, it probably won't be a good example. Why aren't you guys open on Saturday? You go to a restaurant, hey, just FYI, we're closed tomorrow. Why are you closed tomorrow, saturday, biggest day of the week for you, probably.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, and then they go into a story. Well, when I was growing up, my family, we always spent Saturdays together. That's super important for me, okay, why Do you care more about family than you do business? Yeah, I care more about family. Okay, how, how is that possible? Aren't you super afraid you can't pay your bills? No, I feel like the family thing just always kind of worked. People know we're a family establishment. More people come in on Friday nights because they know we're closed Saturday. And then you just boom, you're down the rabbit hole. How does that affect who you hire? Does that affect who you fire? Does that affect how much you pay people? Is that why you guys have such good reviews, because you're so focused on family and building. Really boom, boom, boom, boom. But that all started with. Why aren't you guys open on saturday?

Kevin Palmieri:

I need a pizza pie on saturday. You guys aren't here to do it. Wtf, mate. What's this about? Boom, boom, all right, cool. Next of a nation. Or as yeah, it's on April 5th 2025, next level, live 2025. Again, everybody says this. Few people mean it. Tickets are going faster than expected. Hashtag grateful for all of you who are purchasing your tickets in advance. Please make sure you do not wait, because if you wait to the last minute, tickets will be sold out. Once we sell 50, we're not selling anymore, and then you're gonna have to wait till next year and then tickets are gonna be $500,000 per. So you know, whatever, if that's the way you wanna do it, you can do it, but we want everybody to be in the room with us virtually, and if you wanna be there, this is the year.

Alan Lazaros:

April 5th, 10 am to 4 pm Eastern Standard Time. The biggest concern that I'm hearing is that you do you have to be there for the entire thing. So it's kind of a speech, a training and a workshop sort of all into one. You do not have to be there for the entire thing. You can pop in and out as needed and you will get access to the entire replay, so if you miss anything you will be able to go back boom and tickets are only 47 bucks.

Alan Lazaros:

netflix is going to be47 a month in no time, so you get a full day's event, especially with all the movies they're producing, right for what Netflix is going to be in a couple months.

Kevin Palmieri:

All right, cool as always. We love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you and NLU. We don't have fans, we have family.

Alan Lazaros:

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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