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The Mistreatment Score And What It Means For Your Relationship (2015)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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What if you could measure how well you’re treating your partner—and it revealed more than you expected? In this episode, Kevin and Alan introduce a tool that uncovers the subtle ways couples can hurt each other—often without realizing it. With honest reflections and real examples, they explore how self-awareness and open conversation can change the course of a relationship. If you’ve ever wondered if you’re as good a partner as you think, this episode is a must-listen.

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Show notes:
(4:16) The 10 relationship red flags
(6:09) Attachment styles and reactions
(8:36) Are you a good partner?
(11:45) Would you date someone like you?
(13:44) Join Next Level Live: A virtual, immersive event for those committed to growth, meaningful relationships, and a life they love. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/next-level-live/
(15:26) Honest scoring: green, yellow, red
(17:26) Alan and Kevin’s self-ratings
(20:35) Listen to your gut, not just your mind
(22:00) When your partner’s reaction says a lot
(23:06) Real stories of couples using the tool
(26:30) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri:

One of the hardest parts to improving your relationship is looking at the parts of your relationship that need improvement and that can be scary as heck, but I think if you go on avoiding that for a long enough period of time, you're most likely going to sabotage your relationship. So you either get the feedback all at once at the end or you get it along the way, and this is one way you can get it along the way, and this is one way you can get it a long way.

Alan Lazaros:

The first step to having a better intimate relationship to Kevin's point is looking at where you are maybe not as effective as you want to be. Emilia and I we did a Relationship Talks virtual event last night and we have something called the Mistreatment Score and it's the top 10 ways that intimate couples unintentionally or intentionally mistreat each other.

Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University. I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri.

Alan Lazaros:

And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.

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Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation today for episode number 2015,. The mistreatment score and what it means for your relationship. So I'm coming into this blind. Alan said all right, man, let me, let me share them with you. And I said I don't want to hear them. We'll talk about them on the episode, because I want to make sure that you can lead effectively. This is you and Emilia's framework. I had nothing to do with this, so I'm going to kick it to you and then we'll kind of see what happens from there.

Alan Lazaros:

All right. So the 10 ways people mistreat their partner. Quick origin story here.

Alan Lazaros:

Emilia and I, we were trying to come up with what we wanted to do our next event on. We do them every month and we researched the top 20 ways that couples mistreat each other, and then we cherry picked the 10 that we believe are the most on point, based on the four years of what we've seen in other couples. We've been coaching couples for four years now. However, we also I've been in four long-term relationships and when I say long-term, I mean two years plus and one was pretty rough but like decent, one was amazing, one was terrible. And then, with Amelia, it's by far my wildest dreams, and she's been in several relationships as well, and so we bumped these up against our own experience and they're very, very good, and I'm going to give them all to you right now and, by the way, the digital asset will be in the show notes as well. This is called the mistreatment score. Now, when you do this, make sure you're in a good place, because this is going to be a mirror.

Kevin Palmieri:

As with any check-ins and any style of check-ins.

Alan Lazaros:

I do believe that I'm a really, really good partner and Emilia would share that. She would be the one to tell you. It matters more for her to say it than me, and and I had a couple yellows.

Alan Lazaros:

We forced each other because we scored ourself and then we scored each other and we forced each other, for lack of better phrasing, to give at least one red, like if you had to give me a red, so we're going to do green yellow red on these. So if anyone out there watching or listening think green yellow red, okay, score yourself. All right. The first one taking them for granted. That's number one. The 10 ways people mistreat their partner number one is taking them for granted, forgetting to show appreciation for what they do. Number two lack of communication, ignoring their thoughts, feelings or concerns, which I do to kevin all the time yeah, that's how it happens all right number three criticism and negativity, focusing on kevin's flaws without offering encouragement big red right there

Alan Lazaros:

number four this was my red emotional neglect being physically present but emotionally distant just because I'm so damn busy. Lately I've been like zombying out behind the scenes and again she says Alan's red is not really red. Okay, it is what it is, all right. Number five Silent treatment, shutting down instead of working through conflict. Number six breaking trust. This, in my opinion, is the biggest no-no. Breaking trust, lying, hiding things or being deceitful, that is the big killer, that's the killer of relationships right there, in my opinion. Number seven lack of physical affection, withholding touch, hugs or intimacy as we call kisses, hugs, cuddles and snugs. Number eight prioritizing others over them, always putting work, friends or family first. I got yellow on that one because I put work first.

Alan Lazaros:

I would say that would be definitely yellow currently for, for you yeah yeah, uh, number nine keeping score, bringing up past mistakes to quote unquote win arguments, and win is in quotes on purpose because nobody wins if you're trying to win. And then number 10, I got green and growing in this one, neglecting self-improvement, expecting them to grow while refusing to work on yourself. I playfully with Emilia, I said you think I'm into self-improvement enough. We were laughing. But yeah, so those are the 10.

Kevin Palmieri:

And the scorecard will be in the show notes good question when it comes to what is your communication style. Are you somebody who walks away?

Alan Lazaros:

you know that answer no, no, I love to communicate. I over communicate, if anything that's me now too, really.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, let's just do it, let's just express it.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, I'm an expresser she has an avoidant attachment style. I have a anxious attachment style, we both. So there's three attachment styles there's avoidant, there's secure and there's anxious. To make it as simple as humanly possible, we all are secure when everything's cool, when everything's good, bills are paid, everybody's good, okay, yeah everyone.

Kevin Palmieri:

Is that true, though? Everybody is yeah yeah.

Alan Lazaros:

when, when everything's certain and everything's good and you're in a great state, you get great sleep, you're not hungry or hangry or anything yeah, you're pretty secure. But when things start to get money event uh-oh, goals, right, pets, shit on the carpet, whatever Kids. Pets shit on the carpet.

Kevin Palmieri:

Kids, shit on the carpet. Either one, kevin. Shit on the carpet, it happens.

Alan Lazaros:

Then you get stressed, and when you get stressed you get either anxious or avoidant. That tends to be the case. It's hard for me.

Kevin Palmieri:

I ruminate if I don't figure it out. It's like I going and walking away and taking time. If anything, I just ruminate on it. It's like I don't like to just think about it. I'd rather just sit and talk about it.

Alan Lazaros:

So I know with you and Taryn you like to protect her privacy. I totally understand. She's not a public figure like Emilia, so I have a little more wiggle room with that. Are you able to share who's anxious and who's avoidant and again yeah, I'm anxious, she's avoidant.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, yeah, I'm anxious, she's a void, yeah, yeah. So she needs to take space, which I don't like, because for me, it's like is that going to make it worse? Do you hate me? Are you currently hating me? Are you going to hate me more?

Alan Lazaros:

Is everything good. Are we good?

Kevin Palmieri:

So yeah, I like to, but that hasn't always been the case. I think in the past it was the opposite for me.

Alan Lazaros:

Do we want to do self-rating for Kev Sure On this? Yeah, I do, and I'm not saying this just because you're my business partner. One of the things that I've started saying behind the scenes that I'll share in the front of the scenes is I, one of my, and we did an episode on this in the past. I don't know if this was the hyperconscious days or next level university, but one of my metrics to understand someone's character is how lucky is their partner.

Alan Lazaros:

There's certain people I'm thinking of where it's just your partner is so lucky to be with you that you're just such a good person. You always try to be the best you can be, all this stuff. And then there's other people. There's one person I was coaching and I I I'm grateful I'm not coaching him anymore. I'll keep it anonymous, but I remember thinking your wife must be fucking miserable because he's just kind of a dingus and he doesn't know it. But and I tried to illuminate it and this, that and he's just really really high, strong and really selfish and really narcissistic and I don't, I can't imagine his wife is happy. I just can't. And again, just to be candid here, that's a tell and I think taryn's very lucky, seriously very I appreciate it.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, absolutely, man. Absolutely, of course. Yeah, it's I. She's very lucky to have you.

Kevin Palmieri:

And you're very lucky as well. Of course, I would go toe-to-toe with just about anybody on my relationship.

Alan Lazaros:

I understand why.

Kevin Palmieri:

And I do think you're more capable than I am as a partner. Just because I think you're a more capable human, so I think I would lose to you just because I think you're a more capable human, so I think.

Alan Lazaros:

I would lose to you Now in a death match. I'd kill you. You know what I mean. I would kill you, but I do think you're more capable as a partner than I am. I appreciate that I had a little mini mental breakdown after a Conscious Couples podcast episode earlier.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, but I mean, like you said, I think the 3.6 version breakdown is far different than the 2.1 version breakdown.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, yeah, you know it's an interesting paradox too, because I appreciate it and I do agree. I think I'm a great partner, for sure I would concur, but honestly, I just want to be better Same. My whole world is revolved around how do I get better?

Alan Lazaros:

That's the piece of it. I think I mistreated Emilia a little bit earlier, unintentionally, and I said sorry. She's like what are you sorry for? You're good, we're fine, I, you're good. Yeah, we're fine, I promise, and it's well, that wasn't really fair to you. This is a me issue. I'm the one in the fucking pressure cooker, right so? But again, I think that that's one thing that I want to make as clear as possible that I've learned from conscious couples, and I just want to give it to the nlu listeners here. The people who think they're a great partner rarely are the people who think they're. They're. A lot of people think they're a great partner and that's actually why they're not.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, there's gotta be the, and it's like I do think I am a great partner and I will always have a ton of work to do.

Alan Lazaros:

Exactly, that's such a important piece of it, yeah.

Kevin Palmieri:

But I have you think of someone who thinks they're a great partner, who you're certain they're not? I who you're certain they're not. I don't surround myself. I don't have anybody really that isn't into growth for the most part. Like close to me what about someone from the past. Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, of course of course.

Alan Lazaros:

What was the question that you gave a while back? It was would I want if I had a daughter?

Kevin Palmieri:

would I be proud for her to date you? It could be that gave a while back it was. Would I want if I had a daughter? Would I be proud for her to date you? It could be. It could be that if I had a son, whatever if I had a child, would I be happy for them to date someone like me again, weird. I'm not saying you're going to date your own child, but what I mean is they would have somebody. How do you watching?

Alan Lazaros:

you. This is funny. I want to make sure. I want to make sure it makes sense. It's a hell of a question. It is. Yeah, it's very convoluted.

Kevin Palmieri:

If your son or daughter was treated the way that you treat your partner, would you be happy with that? Yeah, that's a better way to.

Alan Lazaros:

Not just around other people, but behind the scenes. Well, especially behind the scenes, that's what I'm saying, especially behind the scenes. Well, especially behind the scenes, that's what I'm saying especially behind the scenes, because everyone I this again, it's a metaphor, so don't take this out of context but I always say there's the social world, there's the real world. Everyone's wedding looks awesome. The marriage does not always, isn't always, awesome, and do you focus more on the having a great marriage or do you focus more on having a great wedding that looks good on instagram, right and again, that looks good on Instagram, right and again. That's just the base thing here. But okay, so let's do green, yellow, red for you if you're game.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, yeah, I'll force myself to give a red. Okay For sure, appreciate it. Yeah, I think that's important. And again, that's called targeting the constraint. If you do force yourself to give yourself a red, you're basically identifying the biggest bottleneck to treating Taryn the best that you can.

Kevin Palmieri:

I already know it oh you do. So it shouldn't be a hard one, okay.

Alan Lazaros:

Do you want to go? Let's just go through them. Okay, and for the listeners, you guys can do this as well. Yeah, do it with me. Don't leave me out here hanging by myself, unless you're driving, in which case don't All right, taking them for granted, forgetting to show appreciation for what they do.

Kevin Palmieri:

I feel green on that.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, you do gratitude game every day, right?

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, emilia gave herself a yellow Sweetheart. Every day I can like hang her towel up and she'll remember to thank me. I'm like sweetheart. What are we doing here? No, that's great. She's got high standards. She does the most.

Kevin Palmieri:

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Alan Lazaros:

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Kevin Palmieri:

We have a global audience. Obviously, if you live somewhere else in the world, it's hard to come across the country or across the world for a one-day event, so we wanted to make sure it was accessible to everyone.

Alan Lazaros:

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Kevin Palmieri:

I would say yellow.

Alan Lazaros:

But it's not Three days before travel. Hey, by the way.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, it's even this. Like it was Wednesday and I was like what are we doing this weekend? She's like, well, I think I have to work Sunday. I think I'm going to have to work Sunday. And she's like do I have any? I actually said what do you think about that Is?

Alan Lazaros:

how.

Kevin Palmieri:

I started it and she said do I have an option? And I was like I mean, yeah, I'll find a way, I'll tell Alan a pound of sand. But I said I'll make sure I have Saturday with you. So it was good.

Alan Lazaros:

Hence why we're recording at 9.30 at night.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yes, I would say yellow on that one. Okay, yeah, so far not good.

Alan Lazaros:

Okay and again. Opportunities for growth, Of course. Opportunities for growth, Number three being smaller than Alan in terms of biceps.

Kevin Palmieri:

Green as could be. Never been greener, never seen greener in my life that means that you red it's, red it's whatever it means I, my biceps are bigger is the one got you there, all right.

Alan Lazaros:

Criticism and negativity green hold on hold on criticism. Criticism and negativity focusing on flaws without offering encouragement yeah, definitely agree. Yeah, if anything kevin struggles to give feedback, okay, I'm the worst. I'm like, tell me what you. Negativity focusing on flaws without offering encouragement yeah, definitely agree. Yeah, if anything kevin struggles to give feedback, okay, I'm the worst I'm like tell me what you really think. He's like no, no, you're great, you're great, you're great like no.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, well, you know if I was nitpicking, you know maybe there's just like a little thing here that you could improve if you wanted.

Alan Lazaros:

Only if you wanted to. All right, emotional neglect being physically present but emotionally distant.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, I'm good at that one.

Alan Lazaros:

Nice.

Kevin Palmieri:

That's green, not me.

Alan Lazaros:

I'm the man, you're the man, silent treatment, shutting down instead of working through conflict Sounds like that's green. Yeah, I would say that's green, considering you said that you're anxious and always want to talk about it, breaking trust, lying hiding things or being deceitful. No green, green. Lack of physical affection, withholding touch, hugs or intimacy no, I'd say green prioritizing others over them, always putting work, friends or family first that one's red.

Kevin Palmieri:

That one's the red one. Is it the work? Uh, what do you think? Is it the no? No, it's know, I just my phone doesn't stop ringing. I have so many friends I can't even keep up with it. Yes, it's the fucking work. Is it the work? It's like me walking in with a nail in my head. Is it? Is that? It? Is that why you're here? No, I stubbed my toe. Yes, it's the nail in my head. Sir, Take it out of me.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, yeah, we have been grinding huh. No wonder why our last episode shit on a four-hour work week. Right, I'm kidding, all right. So there's your red Keeping score, bringing up past mistakes to quote-unquote win arguments uh, no green, I would say green on that, yeah and then neglecting self-improvement, expecting them to grow while refusing to work on yourself. I'd say you're red on that red, red as can be.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, it can be, I'd say green, have you considered self-improvement or? It's not for me. You know it's not for me. You know it's not for me.

Alan Lazaros:

You considered self-awareness, self-reflection.

Kevin Palmieri:

I'm hoping it'll all just work out? Yeah, do you think it will? So far so good yeah so far, so good.

Alan Lazaros:

Was it working out when you weren't doing self-improvement?

Kevin Palmieri:

It wasn't working out. But I didn't know it wasn't working out.

Alan Lazaros:

Yes, you did Eventually, you knew. You say you had 100 TVs on in my head and couldn't shut them off. Oh yeah, it was 10.

Kevin Palmieri:

TVs. First of all, I couldn't fit 100 TVs in this head of mine. Yeah, no, it was bad, but until then you didn't really know that's the hard thing is no, the hard thing is normal. No, there is no such thing as normal. Your normal is what you've experienced. You have no idea what the alternative is.

Alan Lazaros:

You know you and I should really consider getting some sleep.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, I can 80 sleep. Scarpa's sleeping like a baby. Nice 84 baby. I have realized Tara and I were talking about this. I went from getting like 85s, 85s, 88 and then I get like 60s and I was like what the freak is going on and I was like you know what it is? I think it's too hot. I'm convinced I only sleep well when it's a certain temperature. Tried it back up to the 80s nice that for me that was a game changer for me.

Alan Lazaros:

It's called root cause analysis right there, thank you so much. So, for anyone out there watching or listening, rate yourself zero to ten, no, no. Green yellow red makes it easier. Green yellow red. And then you can do that with your partner. Now one little disclaimer. I have to do this. I did this at the event too.

Alan Lazaros:

I have been with someone in the past who would have used this scorecard against me. So be careful. If you feel like you're in a tough spot and maybe there's some toxicity in your relationship, do not bring this to your partner, because they will use it potentially to gaslight you and start pointing fingers and that kind of thing. So you know, handle with care. But one of the things that helped me tremendously the relationship that I'm referring to that I think I was being mistreated, even though I was convincing myself I wasn't. Emilia made a really good point earlier. You have the heart, you have the, the gut, and you have the mind. So heart, body, mind, so you're. You know when your gut says I think you're being mistreated, this isn't good, this isn't right, but then your mind says no, no, it's okay, it's totally fine. Remember, you do this with your job. In your gut. You're like ah, this probably isn't good for me and then your mind's like no, no it's fine, it's totally fine.

Kevin Palmieri:

This is great.

Alan Lazaros:

You love this well, this scorecard would have helped me go. My brain would have said okay okay, we gotta go we gotta go, and that's why we created it is because I think that this will help some people that are being treated poorly to have the courage to start planning their escape well, and here's the thing it's courageous and it requires bravery to do it.

Kevin Palmieri:

If alan said, hey, do you mind doing it real quick? You want to do it. And I was super insecure because I'm not a good partner, I would have lied my way through that. I would have to lie my way through that entire thing and for all you know I am because you don't know me, but I promise I'm not, but it's.

Alan Lazaros:

I know you're not, I know. I appreciate that and I also wouldn't have asked, if that's the irony, too, is I wouldn't have asked if things weren't. I know things are really good with you and Taryn and I know you're a really strong, amazing partner and I've said that behind your back by the way.

Kevin Palmieri:

I appreciate it Well, likewise. Likewise, I appreciate that man Probably more behind your back than I have to your face, for some reason. I don't know.

Alan Lazaros:

That's a thing I don't know why that's a thing, yeah, which is why, when you gave me the compliment, you also had to say that you'd win in a fight. That was 100% it I was like I playing fields here real quick. Hey, by the way, you're a great partner.

Kevin Palmieri:

I'm gonna beat the shit out of you yeah, that's an interesting thing.

Alan Lazaros:

But seriously, if your partner would be really this is a tell too if you'd be really scared to bring this to your partner, that might say something do it for yourself and just see, see what comes, rate yourself green, yellow, red and then rate your partner. I mean, there's a relationship I was in in the past that would have been read across the board and I would have had to have the courage to leave and I probably would have had an easier time leaving sooner had I had this.

Kevin Palmieri:

We haven't done a relationship episode like this in a minute. I miss these.

Alan Lazaros:

I'm glad we did it.

Kevin Palmieri:

And last rule of thumb don't know, maybe not rule of thumb if your partner freaks out when you take their phone, it's probably, there's probably something.

Alan Lazaros:

There could be something going on oh, for sure, that's all I'm gonna say that's all I'm gonna say we have a couple that we coached years and years ago married couple, and they have been on this growth journey together. They had some tough patches, of course, and they were talking about. They were at the event yesterday and they said you know what's awesome about this?

Alan Lazaros:

we just did ours and it's very green couple, yellows this in the past would have been all red okay so we've grown tremendously together and that's that's a cool thing, too about this is you can see in the past versus the now and how much you've progressed. So that was also really cool to hear and one of the other couples in the room as well. They did it and they sent it to Emilia because she coaches both of them, and it was really cool to see a lot of green, a couple yellows, and they were super pumped. They said it was life-changing. I think this is life changing. The mistreatment scorecard that's going to be a thing okay, cool, all right, I dig it.

Kevin Palmieri:

I dig it. Next level nation, april 5th 2025. Next level live 2025 47 dollars per ticket. With your ticket purchase, you get access to the full replay and it's totally virtual, so you can literally grow with us from the comfort of your own home, in your pajamas, if you'd like, and we'll have the link in the show notes.

Alan Lazaros:

Sorry, go ahead. No, no, you're good, you're good.

Kevin Palmieri:

I actually muted so that I could oh, cough, I had a moment where I realized that that's not going to do anything because you're recording your audio natively, so it's not doing, it's not? I was thinking of that. I was like man. I really appreciate the effort and then at the end of the episode I'm gonna have to tell him it doesn't do anything kev, I've been not, I've been not doing that I've been hammering it right into the mic, so it's gonna be production team we oh, it's going to be worse.

Alan Lazaros:

So production team. We're sorry, it's going to be significantly worse.

Kevin Palmieri:

I've been coughing directly into the mic. We're going to find a solution to this problem. We just don't know what it is yet, but I'm on it, I promise.

Alan Lazaros:

Again, it's 8.48 on a Friday night. Coaching, training, podcasting.

Kevin Palmieri:

Don't want to make excuses but my I've got to clear my throat repeatedly. We're going to do better.

Alan Lazaros:

So I apologize to anyone if I coughed into your ears. Please lower the volume for this.

Kevin Palmieri:

We're going to find a way to fix it.

Alan Lazaros:

I just don't know how, yet 100%. We will figure it out. If you want to come to Next Level Live, this is the promise. Your future will get bigger, better and brighter based on the things that you learn in that room and, if nothing else, just the reference group that you have, the people you spend time with. Come and join us with other incredible individuals. We've got a private WhatsApp group with people in there. Just join us and we promise you, for $47, a day, of growth. Your future will be bigger, better and brighter because of it, and you will definitely, definitely, definitely learn more about yourself, others and the world at this event.

Kevin Palmieri:

Also, at some point I'm thinking, maybe April 1st I'm going to start the 10 pounds in 10 weeks slash whatever that is. For you, it doesn't have to be 10, but it might not even be 10 pounds in 10 weeks for me. I don't know yet, but I'm thinking April's coming, spring is coming. So if you are somebody who is on some sort of fitness journey, you don't have to focus on weight loss. You don't have to focus on it doesn't matter. You can do whatever you want, however you want. But we do have a WhatsApp group, a fitness accountability WhatsApp group. So if you want to be more consistent in the gym, alan and I are leading the charge on that and we'll have the link.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, we're not going to have the link. You've got to reach out to us. Oh yeah, dm Kev on the gram. We sent the link out and there was a bunch of robots who tried to join.

Alan Lazaros:

Our Instagrams are in the show notes. Dm myself or Kevin, we'll get you in there.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, say, I want to do the fitness accountability group. We'll get you in there All right, as always Grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.

Alan Lazaros:

Keep it Next Level, next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next.

Alan Lazaros:

Level family. We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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