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You Gotta Go With Your Wiring (2069)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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What if the key to success isn’t fixing your flaws, but owning your wiring? In this honest and energizing episode, Kevin and Alan unpack the real differences in how they’re built and why leaning into your strengths while managing your blind spots is the smarter path forward. You’ll learn how self-awareness can unlock both fulfillment and progress without burning out or trying to be someone you’re not.

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Show notes:
(2:11) How Kevin and Alan operate differently
(4:52) When good enough isn’t enough
(7:50) There is no finish line
(10:13) Mastery Vs. Momentum in progress
(12:23) How to grow without burning out
(14:45) Meet your people. Chase your dreams. Level up your life with Next Level Group Coaching. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/group-coaching/
(20:13) Knowing when effort is worth it
(24:35) Coaching with strength Vs. Warmth
(29:09) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri:

I was literally just on a podcast before this and the person said what advice would you give to an entrepreneur slash dream chaser who is just getting started? And I said you have to figure out what you're really good at and what you're not so good at, and magnify and multiply what you're really good at and then try to mitigate your weaknesses. And essentially that's what we're talking about here. Do you go with your wiring? Does that make life easier? Is that a shortcut? Are you cheating?

Alan Lazaros:

I don't know. No one's going to be better at being you than you. There's a big difference between, hey, I'm going to try to improve myself and change myself versus I'm going to own all of who I am. And to Kevin's point, mitigate the weakness that comes with that, but double down on the strength.

Kevin Palmieri:

mitigate the weakness that comes with that, but double down on the strength. Welcome to Next Level University. I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri, and I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus. At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros:

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Kevin Palmieri:

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Alan Lazaros:

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Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation. Today, for episode number 2069,. You gotta go with your wiring, or do you? I don't really know. I told Alan. I said that does not have to be the next level lesson we leave people with is you have to go with your wiring. So we were talking about you. You paint the picture for context here. Why are we doing this episode?

Alan Lazaros:

Well, Kevin, I working together a long time and when we travel together I noticed the differences between him and I. Kev has certain things that in his head he needs to get done before he can shut off, and by shut off, transition from work to Arnold.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, it's shut off, it is boop. You click the button on the back of the robot and it just goes.

Alan Lazaros:

When you travel with Kev, he cares about three things. One, where are we going and are we going to be on time? Number two, what are we eating for dinner? And number three is what is the things that I need to get done? Hold on, hold on. What was the third?

Kevin Palmieri:

You're missing one.

Alan Lazaros:

I know I think there's four technically Hold on One's being on time. Yep, one is what we're eating for dinner. Yep, for sure.

Kevin Palmieri:

And one's the gym. It's the gym, of course. It's the gym that hurt me. That hurt me at the ego level. Yeah, yeah, no, that's true, though that's that hurts me at the ego level.

Alan Lazaros:

It's, it's when I went, bring you guys behind the scenes as a podcaster or speaker and any podcasters or speaker speakers, you'll know this. You have a thing and you're like this is going to be fire and then, in the middle of saying it, you forget one of them. Oh, it's the worst. That's what happened. I. I had on time, jim, what we're going to eat for dinner in my head and I just skipped the gym the fourth one, in fairness, though, is what?

Kevin Palmieri:

what are the things that I have to get done?

Alan Lazaros:

so I don't feel terrible about myself yeah, and when we're traveling, mine are what is the best for the mission, what is the best for the company, what is the impact we're trying to have and and what do we need to master? And then, what movie are we watching while we eat? And also, what are we having for dinner? Let's be real. Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah, so we have a common core value in that. It's nice, and usually you'll wake up earlier and hammer out work and I'll work later. That tends to be our wiring, okay.

Alan Lazaros:

So there's a quote from a bodybuilder way back in the day. His name was Greg Plitt. I used to listen to a lot of his motivational stuff and if you want motivational videos extremely motivating definitely some toxic, masculine, but extremely fucking motivating Whoa. But he would say when good enough isn't enough, you'll always have enough, and I resonate with that. I don't have good enough ever. I don't ever think anything is good enough and I feel like that's how I'm wired and I don't. I think that can be very detrimental if I'm not careful. But I said this on the team huddle last night. I said we're doing a great job, we're leaders, awesome influence, we're doing better than we've ever done and as hardcore as this is going to sound, I kind of don't give a shit about any of that, because that's not what we need to get to the next level. I care way more about the next level than I do the current one. I always have been wired that way. I care more about the future than I do about the present.

Kevin Palmieri:

The future is going to be the fucking present soon. So again, it makes that right. There is a bumper sticker the future is going to be the present, fucking soon.

Alan Lazaros:

So the way that I'm wired and I want everyone out there watching or listening to think about which end they're on. I think that's a big part of the value of Next Level University is Kevin's perspective, my perspective and the listener's perspective. My perspective is good enough, is never enough and it's never going to be, and that's okay and accept that. Accept that Number two is the future matters way more than the present. I don't care about the fucking current level, I care about the next level. More 80-20. Kev is good enough, is enough, as long as I check the box and get it done.

Kevin Palmieri:

Good enough is enough for today. That would be my internal dialogue. Good enough is enough for today.

Alan Lazaros:

And we also talked behind the scenes. Kev has level 10 standards in a few things.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, I have a really hard time doing mediocre work in anything well, the the quote how you do one thing is how you do everything never resonate. I think it's the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life.

Alan Lazaros:

It's like that is. It resonates 10 out of 10.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, always has now and now I understand. I understand why because you're you're wired that way, but it's like you better believe. If I'm out painting the deck I'm to do a half-assed job, so I can go do something else way better. I don't, it doesn't matter, it doesn't freaking matter to me.

Alan Lazaros:

It hurts my self-esteem if I do a shitty job. I understand and that's really important for everyone to hear. Would it hurt your self-esteem to do a poor job?

Kevin Palmieri:

No.

Alan Lazaros:

No, no, no. This comes down to what how you're wired might be what you tie your self-esteem to. I deeply, deeply, deeply and sincerely tie my self-esteem to how well I do things. I tie it to effort and how well I do something I give emilia a massage. It's gonna be like I'm a fucking world-class masseuse. That that's fair, but that's never going to half-ass anything.

Kevin Palmieri:

That's something I I value. It's like that's different. That's a different level of value. This is an example. Okay, this is. This is for dream chasers and this is the way I do it. I had something on my to-do list today that I had to do for a client. Okay, this is immediately where my mind goes. There is 0% chance I can get all this done today. What is the amount that I can do that I will send over to them that they will be pleasantly impressed with? Did it? Sent it over? Responded with you, the man with a flexi muscle. Cool, Done, Check Done. They responded Yep. They responded you, the man with a flexi muscle. Nice. I checked off the box and I moved to the next thing that was calculated on how much do I need to actually move the needle? Because there's no way I can do all that needs to get done today. And here's what I'll do. I'll do the same shit next week, Same exact thing.

Alan Lazaros:

It's on my list again.

Kevin Palmieri:

There's never going to be a time in anyone's life where they can get everything done. There is no done. There is no finish line. This is an infinite game of life. The finish line is when we pass on.

Alan Lazaros:

But just for this little do you slide in a little death reference, mortality, mortality reference, and even that might not be the end, who knows? Right, holy shit, I know. Okay, but here's the deal. When you wake up in the morning and this is kevin and I showing both ends of the coin there's never been a day where I wake up in the morning and think I'll go to bed having gotten everything done.

Kevin Palmieri:

There's no such thing. I know, I know, I understand, okay, and I'm not saying that, it was more the fact of… that's my relationship with checking the boxes. I have to do something on this today. It probably is not going to be as much as I want to do, yeah, but I go into the day looking at the list and saying, eh, that's going to get pushed, that's going to get pushed. This has been pinging me and I know this person is waiting on it and I have to make some level of needle move, but it can't be as much. It's not gonna be as much of a needle move as I want it to be done, completely, just not reasonable. I can't.

Alan Lazaros:

This is 100% why I'm late.

Kevin Palmieri:

This is it I.

Alan Lazaros:

I did a post earlier. I wrote it myself. I don't want chat GPT doing my posts for me. I want to have it come from the heart and I want to do a good job. And the thing that Kevin and I were talking about behind the scenes is I don't even know if I care if other people like it. I think I need to feel like it's great work because otherwise it's deeply unfulfilling To me. What's the point in doing it if you're not going to pour everything you've got into it? And I know that this is not normal. It's not. And one of the things that I want to make as clear as possible, as hard as this is to share. I've always wondered why other people were so okay with mediocre work. I've always wondered that and don't get me wrong you can better your best, like this episode. Our worst episode today is better than our best episode for episode 100 or episode 200 or episode 1000. So you're going to better your best forever. And then Emilia says better, your bettered best. It's like okay.

Alan Lazaros:

I love that, but to me it's mastery I think it comes down to. You are wired in a way where you care about getting the things done that need to get done in order to make sure you can hit today's bar knowing that you will eventually raise the bar tomorrow. For me, I never, ever, ever go into doing anything without trying to raise the bar then.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, that is where you and I are very different and it gets great. It works really really well. We have complementative wiring.

Alan Lazaros:

I would say that's why you got your course done before I did. That's why you'll probably finish your book before I do. There's a strength and a weakness with both of these.

Kevin Palmieri:

When I went back and again, I'm not saying this to shame alan, but I it's just based on what we just were talking about when I went back and when I was interviewing you, I went all the way back to your the beginning of your instagram you were talking about how you're gonna have an audiobook, like the audio book that I'm working on that will be dropping soon and it's like that. It makes sense by the time. This for me, this is why it's so hard to put something off that's big and big and big, because by the time you get to it, it's been so long since you've made any progress that you feel like you need to do the whole thing. It's just like nope, I can't do this. I can't do this. I can't just write a book this week no way I like the train thing.

Alan Lazaros:

So once you started pgu, you do one a week, yeah, every week, and then once you can sustain that, then you up level never. So when will two a week happen, if ever?

Kevin Palmieri:

I don't know it's a great question. I don't know it's a great question.

Alan Lazaros:

I don't know, I'm not sure and this is, if Kevin and I don't have answers for anyone, it's because this is the impossible. This is the impossible game. You cannot ever get to a level. So, for example, take how overwhelmed you and I are currently. Okay, let's say we're overwhelmed at level 10. As we improve and grow and become more capable and effective and delegate and resources and resourcefulness and skills, okay, that 10 becomes a nine, and then the nine becomes an eight and then the eight becomes a seven. Dude, when I get around seven, it's like let's fucking go to the next level. This is boring, but in the past, what? What happened, unfortunately, is I'd be bored and kevin would be drowning yeah, I'd be drowning.

Kevin Palmieri:

Alan's floating on his thing sipping a non-alcoholic margarita and I'm like, oh yeah, like jack, I try to grab onto the door. Pull me up, rose, pull me up rose, I'm not here drowning you gotta give titanic reference for the younger listeners. You, if you don't know, I look, if you don't know the movie titanic. Number one, you're missing out, and number two, you're not going to understand most of the references I give, because I I've seen very few movies and that's, that's like the best one ever it is the best.

Alan Lazaros:

That's one thing you and I agree on. That was a world class, unbelievable you have an extra four hours.

Kevin Palmieri:

Don't do your work, go watch Titanic, that's my next humble lesson.

Alan Lazaros:

If you have an extra four hours, you're probably not listening to this show.

Kevin Palmieri:

I told Taryn. I said I have homework to do tonight. She said what's your homework? I said Alan sent me a movie that I must watch and she said what do you mean I?

Alan Lazaros:

said he sent it was important so I got to watch it. The founder Ray Kroc not a good person. I told Kevin this. I need everyone to know this. If you've seen the Founder, it's a really well done film.

Kevin Palmieri:

Don't give any spoilers away because I haven't seen it. I won't, I'm watching it tonight Ray Kroc.

Alan Lazaros:

I told you this already via WhatsApp message. Ray Kroc's not a good person, however, and so I don't condone being like and I said this to Kev I don't condone. I'm not sending you this movie so that you're like him, no, but the persistence and the tenacity and the focus and the, the thinking big is really quite cool and you get to figure out how how things happen at scale and you and I. One of our biggest problems, our biggest problem right now, is how do we scale? We don't have any more time. There's no more time if we want to get good sleep, if we want to be healthy. In my early 30s, I realized I was aging poorly and I was like I have to turn this around. I can't do this. I have turned it around. I actually feel like I'm aging better now, but what we were doing for a while there was very bad for us, and I'm trying to figure out how do we grow our impact and our company without hurting our health it's fair.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's fair. Well, I think this. Well, I think this you gotta go with your wiring, baby, gotta go with your wiring. Nice, that's it. That's what I have. I don't know. I feel like this journey has been terrible. I'm waiting on you to figure it out. You know, very honestly, I'm waiting on you to figure it out. I don't know.

Kevin Palmieri:

Next Level Nation, what is happening? If you've thought to yourself I want to try coaching, but you don't really know where to start, group coaching would be a wonderful place for you. That's really why we created it in the first place. We start a new round every 90 days. So if you're hearing this, go to the website nextleveluniversecom and we have the landing page where you can actually hold your spot right now. Even if there's a group going on right now, you can still lock your spot for the next one. The biggest thing that we've seen is, as we get closer and closer to the date, unfortunately, some people end up missing. The group fills up and they can't do it, and then they end up regretting that. So please head over to the website. The link will be in the show notes and we would love to see you there.

Kevin Palmieri:

What is your wiring? What is my wiring In hindsight? Do the thing with the most optimal amount of energy possible. Like, let's be really freaking smart about how we do this. Nice, I'm not saying I avoid hard work. There's just there's always been things Like if you have a bunch of stuff to move, there is an optimal way to do it. For some reason, I have always kind of known it's like no, no, we stage it in one place and then we bring it all to another place and stage it. For some reason, I have always kind of known it's like no, no, we stage it in one place and then we bring it all to another place and stage it, and then we rest and then we do the same thing over and over. I feel like that's probably the most optimal way. Could we just carry it the whole way? Yeah, but I don't think it makes as much sense.

Alan Lazaros:

Let's do it with hard work but let's maximize the amount of effort we can get out of the hard work. I think that's the way I've kind of always been. I don't know if I understand how to articulate this, but when I was in the gym not long ago I talked about this on a previous episode I have this moment of don't make it easier, make this harder, make this so hard until you're risking injury, and then, once you're risking injury, you step back. So I did deadlifts today and I got to a certain point where it was no, no, no, no, don't, don't, don't go any further than this. You're going to, you're going to regret this, and I did I. I and I had to take my tenacity down a second and just okay, let's transition. You don't have to prove anything to yourself or others. It's really prove to self. Ultimately, you do.

Alan Lazaros:

That's one thing that's been interesting is we're in our 30s now. I mean, we've already gone beyond where people thought we'd get, so there's no more proof to others. For me, I think that's kind of gone. I have that to a degree. I have a little bit of it. I think I have a little bit of the what is it the best? Revenge is ridiculous, success or something like that. I have a little bit of that chip on my shoulder a little bit, but it's much less that than it used to be.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, I mean now it's much more. Okay, Alan, no one cares how much you deadlift, no one gives a shit if you're in shape. Seriously, if anything they're like, can you slow down, man, Goddamn. So I have to push me because no one else is going to push me. Emilia cares, but other than that, and I think the leader is the person with the highest standards for self. So I realize, okay, no one's going to ever push me again. Like honestly, I don't feel like that's going to happen for me anymore. That's over. So I have to be the one to find that line. When you said that I do the optimal amount of effort for the optimal result, that is working smart by definition. I'm not making that wrong. I think that I'm on the extreme end of make it harder on purpose so that I get better. This is what I don't understand. Mathematically, when are you optimal and where am I optimal? Because with painting the deck, unless you want to be a really good deck painter, there's no point in you trying to master painting.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah.

Alan Lazaros:

The only point at that point is it's more meaningful and fulfilling for me to do a good job. I like doing a good job. When I do things. It feels good. I think it gives you a sense of self-esteem when you do things well. So when I do the kitty litter, for example, I'm telling you kitty litter, master, I mean there's not a spot and Emilia's like, don't take so much time. Listen, I'm learning. I want to do a good job. I want my cats to have pristine kitty litter. I do, it's what it is. That's how I'm wired Now. I'm not taking three hours to do that. Right, You're there with like tweezers.

Kevin Palmieri:

That's a dark one. Oh, let me get that. Nope, one of those. No, that's kitty litter, that's not a dump.

Alan Lazaros:

That was funny, but that's why I have to be careful about what I do. And for anyone out there watching or listening, where do you fall on this? On one end it's check the box. Doesn check the box doesn't really matter how well you do it. On the far end it's I am trying to up the ante. Every rep I do, every workout I do. I try to have it be better than the last workout. And where do you fall on that? And what are the implications of that? Because I on kevin's end. You're basically not gonna get as good at things because you're purposely making so, you're making moving easier. That's going to hurt your long-term growth and development, whether you know it or not. What if I don't want to get better at that, though it's? What if it still has a?

Kevin Palmieri:

hold on, hold on, hold on, let me. Let me throw this scenario out there while you're spending an extra four hours painting the deck, I'm out on four hours of podcasts and the deck blows on my deck. It sucks. It's not great. The painting is not great. I think that's if it's meaningful and it matters. That's different than like. I'm not going to remember this.

Alan Lazaros:

This is good. I have had to purposely decide in advance to not do a good job on the deck to make sure I go back to my things coaching, training and podcasting. You are going to have to dial up the intensity of getting better in your things, because that's not naturally how you do everything. Correct, Correct, yeah. So yes, that was a good. What's your next level lesson, sir?

Kevin Palmieri:

That's the wiring. What's my next level lesson? Use the unique strengths that you have, because there is something that you are just way better at naturally than I am and way better at than Alan is naturally, and if you can lean into that and leverage that. I wouldn't say it's a blanket statement. You always go with your wiring, because that's not true, but go with the positive parts of your wiring and then figure out what the negative parts are and then try to make those more positive. That would be my next level.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, well said for sure, Knowing how you're wired and sometimes you have to stray in order to figure that out and then working with that is critical. If you're naturally relatable, that's great. If you're naturally intense, that's also great. I think we're scared to dial up the parts of us that are unique because we don't belong. I'm certainly it's very even on this podcast right now.

Alan Lazaros:

I'm dialing down my intensity. I'm so much more intense than this in real life and I asked Kev, I said am I more or less intense than this other speaker? And he said you by far more. And I was like, are you kidding me? I don't feel like I'm intense at all. If anything, I feel like this is one tenth of what I want to put into this microphone. But I got to channel my intensity and so I'm intense.

Alan Lazaros:

I'm long term thinker, I'm. All the things that I love about me are the scariest socially, and I think that might be true for other people too. Or maybe all the things you love about you are scary when it comes to success because if you lean into them, you you know that you won't achieve a lot, like if you're not a natural achiever. I think there's some people that are natural achievers and they dial down constantly to try to fit in. And then I think there's other people who do fit in naturally and then they have to. They are constantly trying to dial up to be an achiever when in reality there's a way to succeed by leaning into who and what you are.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's challenging and we'll hop right after this because I know you got to go. It depends on who you're trying to fit in with. I was on with a very high level business owner. I had a call with him yesterday and we were like two peas in a pod. Five years ago I don't think I would have been enough to be in the call with him.

Alan Lazaros:

So now I we got time, go ahead, go into that.

Kevin Palmieri:

I mean, I wasn't really a business owner. I was, but I didn't understand. I didn't understand people where I was like, oh, this guy's a super high achiever, I can give him shit all day. He wants me to call him out. Like he is going to be so excited that I call him out. That's not my wiring. My wiring is not naturally to like give someone a little kick in the ass. That's not the way I'm naturally wired. To give someone a little kick in the ass, that's not the way I'm naturally wired. So it just allowed me to see him and say, okay, he's the type of person that probably would appreciate, boom, boom boom, boom, let me do that.

Kevin Palmieri:

Five years ago I didn't specific, uh well, this. So it was a podcast breakthrough session, free podcast breakthrough session. We got to the end and he's like what's this about, man? I was like what are you talking about? He's like so we just never. I just ride off into the sunset and I never hear from you again. And I said, in an ideal world, yeah, you'd take everything we talked about and ran with it and you'd be successful. That would work. And he's like no, seriously. And I said, are you, do you want? And I like you need to stop letting AI produce your podcast. Like you're way better than that and you need to change the name. When I, when I researched your show, you were, I said you're selling yourself so freaking short man. You are an incredible human. Your podcast is cartoony. Like we got we got some stuff that we can do.

Alan Lazaros:

And he's like yeah, yeah, man, you're right.

Kevin Palmieri:

But yeah, man, you're right. But that is not, that's not natural to me, that is not the way I'm wired. So that's a muscle, but that's what helping him is. I'm now understanding that a different version same Kevin, but different version of Kev can show up to help different versions of different people.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, you challenged him. Yes, I have one client. I know we got to jump, but I have one client. He got off. I coached him and his wife Shout out to you I know you're listening. He said he went to his wife afterwards. He's like I've never had anyone talk to me like that. That was awesome. I said, dude, with all the love, everyone is so impressed with you. I'm not. I know how smart you are. You're a freaking semi-genius. What are we doing here? The truth is congratulations for level 7 when you're a level 10 human. Some people need a kick in the fucking ass, man. Seriously, I know, I know Like you can't just be soft all the time.

Kevin Palmieri:

But some people need a shoulder. You're not wired. I'm wired to give someone the shoulder You're not, I can give the shoulder too, I can. But that's not your natural. Yeah, that's not your natural.

Alan Lazaros:

My natural is, I'm not impressed. We got more in you. I believe in this person. It's like, dude, you got like what are we doing? Are we on the fence here? Let's go. What's the next project? Let's come on. I don't congratulations, whoop-de-doo Basil, I don't care. Like, what are we doing now? Right, and I said this to him too. I said, dude, everyone, they're not gonna push you. They can't give away what they don't have. They don't know you're playing at level six. They think you're playing at level 12, and so it takes.

Alan Lazaros:

I. I'm grateful that you're leaning into that part of you because you need both. I have. If emilia's vulnerable, she's having a hard time and she's dealing with stuff behind the scenes, like I have to be there for her. I can't be like get your fucking shit together. That's not conducive. However, there's sometimes, when we're in the gym, where it's like come on, you got this and she needs both and you need to know how to deploy each one. It's called strength and warmth. Sometimes I'm really warm and I'm there for you and empathetic, and and then other times I can really bring out my Spartan, and sometimes you need a Spartan and I coach a lot of people. So I, some people need warmth and some people need strength and some people need different variations of each and it depends on it depends on their current state as well. But I'm grateful that you have that, that that you can deploy, because you do it with me all the fucking time behind the scenes. I know you love it.

Kevin Palmieri:

I know you love it, so it's different with you that's just. There's other people that love it too well, I know, but it's now I recognize it's. It took me a while to recognize that is what worked best for you and now I know that's a that's a tool like I think that's a good way to put it is. That's a tool that I can now deploy when needed right when needed all right, cool, all right.

Kevin Palmieri:

Next nomination if you want to be more consistent with your daily journaling, we have the next level dreamliner. It's on amazon. We'll have the link in the show notes. It's world class. I have not been doing it because I suck, but if there was a journal and I'm going to start doing it again this is the one to start with, because it's actually sustainable. Alan and I are super busy and honestly, it just hasn't been a priority. But if I say I don't have time to do it, that is a dumb ass excuse, because it literally takes five minutes a day. So it's definitely worth the investment and it'll help you be a consistent journaler.

Alan Lazaros:

Achieve your dreams 90 days at a time. Next level dreamliner. This is a book called Reset by Dan Heath. We do book club. We've read 20 books.

Alan Lazaros:

So if you're having trouble staying accountable to reading, if for no other reason, come join us in book club. We have a private WhatsApp group. You can register. The link will be in the show notes. You put in your name, first name, last name and email. You register, join us and as soon as you join us you'll get an invite to the private WhatsApp group. We are all holding each other accountable to reading at least one chapter per week. This helps me stay consistent in reading too. So Reset by Dan Heath, it is a brainstorming session next level books, with next level people, and there's there's conversations in there that help me think about things I've never thought about before, and it's one of those very rare private, non-recorded places where you can really talk about real shit that you're going through, that you know you can't talk about publicly, or maybe you can, but you're you don't want to all right, right on, all right as always.

Kevin Palmieri:

We love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you and at nlu, we don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow keep it next level, next level nation thanks for joining us for another episode of next level university. We love connecting with the next level family we mean it when we say family.

Alan Lazaros:

If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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