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Don’t Sell Your Soul For Success (2070)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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The pressure to cut corners whispers louder than the truth. In today’s episode, Kevin and Alan explore the quiet cost of chasing success at the expense of self. Through stories of temptation, tough decisions, and paths not taken, they reveal the strength it takes to walk away from what glitters but doesn’t align. This conversation is a gentle reckoning for anyone torn between who they are and who they’re told to be.

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Show notes:
(2:14) Integrity Vs. Instant fame
(5:06) Shame and self-reflection
(9:21) Reverse engineering regret
(13:34) Becoming the hero you needed
(15:03) Meet your people. Chase your dreams. Level up your life with Next Level Group Coaching. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/group-coaching/
(17:15) Self-respect behind closed doors
(22:19) The promise to stay virtuous
(26:03) Good choices, fulfilled life
(28:41) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri:

I had homework the other night, or actually it was last night. Alan said you need to watch the Founder, and the Founder is about McDonald's and how McDonald's grew. And come to find out the person that I thought started McDonald's did not start McDonald's. He was a real jackass and at the end of that movie I felt very sad because this person sold their soul for success and I think there's a lot of people, especially in this industry, doing that and it kind of makes me sad in the 21st century.

Alan Lazaros:

I can't, I gotta call it. I have aviators on. For those of you on YouTube, we just decided to be funny. Today, in the 21st century, I think it's easier to sell out than ever and I think, unfortunately, because the internet is global it's 6 billion people online, almost you can kind of get away with a lot more and it's easy to sell out. And Kevin and I, on this journey, are telling you no matter what you do, fundamentals are really important and whatever you do, do not sell out.

Kevin Palmieri:

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Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation today for episode number 2070. Alan, if you're watching this live on YouTube or on YouTube, you can see Alan has his shades on. We're just in a weird mood, I don't know. It's Friday. We're recording this on Friday. It's 80 degrees out, summer is here and it doesn't matter, because we're just grinding out these podcast episodes. Don't sell your soul for success.

Kevin Palmieri:

Alan said something on a previous episode where he was talking about how he was with someone when they paid $6,000 or whatever it was to buy an Instagram page that had a lot of followers, and I was thinking. I was like I wonder if I know that person. And then it clicked in my head and I was like I do know that person, I know exactly who that person is and I had completely forgotten that they did that and it's just, I see it everywhere. I see it everywhere. I had somebody message me today and I shared it on my story. They said kevin, we love your podcast. In only four episodes of ours, we were able to get to four million, first of all, four million, what I don't know what the hell you're talking about and I shared it and I put a little ron swanson from parks and rec that said I know more than you do. Because there's a scene in parks and rec where he goes to home Depot and somebody comes up to him and says anything I can help you find and he looks at them just straight in the face and says I know more about this than you do and just walks away. And I feel like that a lot of times.

Kevin Palmieri:

A lot of the shit that I get is people that are essentially saying sell your soul for some success. I can help you do it, because I've already sold my soul to get some success and we've made some really hard decisions that were really bad for our business growth but really good for our self-worth. We've moved on from mentors, we've said no to big opportunities and I just think, yes, in the short run it sucks. And yes, in the short run you'll probably say why can't I do that? Why does my character not allow me to do that? But in the long run it will be worth it. At least you have to believe that, because if you don't believe that, you are going to sell out and I'm telling you, you're most likely going to regret it.

Kevin Palmieri:

Would any of these people say that? Say that they regret it. I don't know, but I'm, I am convinced behind the scenes. If you, could you have a couple drinks in them and have a real authentic conversation. Hey brother, between you and I. You fucked up right when you bought that. You know you fucked up when you bought that. Does any, any piece of you feel guilt at all? Yeah, I can, I can imagine. Right, I feel like I don't know. It's a slippery slope. Well, it's shame, yeah.

Alan Lazaros:

I think that a lot of us feel shame, subconsciously and unconsciously, when we do things that are out of integrity. And aren't you supposed to? Yes, right, I had that conversation with emilia on a walk. I said there has to be some accountability. I think that's what shame is for, and if you use shame to try to control people, that's bad. That's not what I'm talking about. But of course you're going to be ashamed of things that are. When you act like a shithead, you should be ashamed of it.

Alan Lazaros:

I have some shame around certain things I've done in my past and I don't think that's bad. I think that I think it's important to look at those things and go, okay, well, that wasn't great and I wish, I kind of I wish I hadn't said that and that was probably not the best version of me. And then you work through that and try to make sure at the end of the day and I think film is the best for this and the founder. The point of that movie is he sold his soul and at the very end I don't know if you remember the scene, but at the very end you saw shame in his eyes. He ended up marrying that other woman and in the very end it showed the shame in the mirror. You know scene I'm talking about. At the very end he's sitting in front of the mirror in his mansion, having achieved everything he wanted to achieve, and then you saw the shame in his eyes.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, and to me, I would rather and you said this too, I think this was actually your quote I would rather be a failure in integrity than successful selling out For sure, and at the end of the day, only it's you versus you. You know, you know what is selling out, and if I showed up to every episode with aviators on to try to get more clicks, that would affect me. That's not my purpose, that's not my calling. And it's very hard to understand what is and is not in alignment. And a lot of times we go outside of alignment and then you have to check in and go ah, you know what. I don't know if I can keep doing that. I don't know if I can coach that person and it's tough. I understand. I understand why this is so challenging, especially when your goals require you to. I was a fitness model and I did some photo shoots and there's a few photos on the internet that it's like eh again, I wasn't naked in any of them, but there was some tight boxer shorts for sure, For sure.

Alan Lazaros:

And you know that's not the pro, that's not the legacy that I want to leave, that's not the impact I want to have. And last piece, before I kick it back to you, kev so we've talked about the story where I was. I interviewed three times to be cast for a show called love island and basically the guy said, hey, you're really hot. I think he was a homosexual man. He said you're really hot. This is a bunch of hot people on an island that fall in love and it's just mayhem. Sounds like a great show, are you in? And he obviously sold it better than that. But I went on the interviews and it was. I still joke to this day. It's the one time where being intelligent was actually a bad thing in an interview. Are you always this articulate and calculated in what you do and don't say yeah, and calculated and what you do and don't say yeah? Should I just fly off the cuff and be a belligerent drunk?

Kevin Palmieri:

yeah, that would help for us.

Alan Lazaros:

That's exactly what we're looking for they were like hey, were you cheated on recently? Uh, or is there some drama?

Kevin Palmieri:

with you and your.

Alan Lazaros:

it's a whole fucking thing. Reality tv is completely fabricated and I know that from behind the scenes. But anyways, kevin and I at the time, we talked about it and the truth is, no, I'm I'm not proud of that. I wouldn't be proud of that. Yeah, I would have gotten famous, of course. Yeah, I would have gotten opportunities. Yeah, I might've been. But honestly, it's when my head hits the pillow at night. Am I going to be proud of me? Is that congruent with the man I want to be?

Alan Lazaros:

I talked to Kev recently about this too. I said what do you think about our content too? I said what do you think about our content? What do you think about the work we do in the world? That's, it's you versus you. You're never going to win the try to be what other people need you to be thing. You have to understand branding, marketing and sales. You have to understand that the market dictates what level of success you do reach out or reach. If you're going to be an engineer in the 21st century and you're doing software engineering, you're probably going to have a higher probability of success than someone who I don't know breeds horses. Okay, I get that. You have to cater who you are to what the world wants. But if you overdo that, you are going to lose yourself and you're going to fucking be deeply unfulfilled. And to me, what's the point of success if you're unfulfilled?

Kevin Palmieri:

I was on a podcast and we were talking about reverse engineering regret, and they were like I've never thought of that before when I said I mean, for most of my life I didn't. I don't know if that was an Alan thing, I don't know if you came up with that or we came up, I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure somebody else in the in the annals of time have.

Alan Lazaros:

but I was like, yeah, are you? I don't know, it was it? Yeah, I don't know. Anytime it says reverse engineer most likely.

Kevin Palmieri:

That's fair, that's fair, all right, well, we'll say alan created it. So if you, if you're out there and you think he created it first, you're wrong if this tattered flash card that I've been carrying, in my pocket to the point where it's looks like it's been through the laundry 18 times.

Alan Lazaros:

It's a book called the Top Five Regrets of the Dying, by a woman named Bronnie Ware, and it's the five regrets of people that were terminally ill. We interviewed her. Shout out to Bronnie, but anyways, yeah, reverse engineering regret is go into your future on the rocking chair or whatever with the grandkids, whatever it is for you, and ask yourself are you proud of what you did in the world? Are you proud of who you became? Are you proud of the people you spent time with? Are you proud of the way you treated yourself and others? Are you proud? Is it respectable? Do you respect yourself? Do you have self-respect and reverence for who you are?

Kevin Palmieri:

Are you your own hero?

Kevin Palmieri:

And you can't lie, that's thing you can't lie. It's when it's when it's a conversation between you and, yeah, you can lie, but eventually the truth shows through. Eventually, and this this is I know it's fortune cookie type stuff, but and I don't know how to make it sound good but when you do something and you get really good at it and you feel confident, you feel competent, you have a sense of pride when you're doing it. I'm telling you you would rather have that feeling than a bunch of people know you for something that you didn't really do in the first place. I'm that's where imposter syndrome comes from.

Kevin Palmieri:

For a lot of people's a that's a huge piece is so many people are looked at in in such a high light when they feel like they don't deserve it because they know they're actually not that great. That's a piece of it. So it really is playing the long game and and working at it for a long period of time. It's not sexy, but there you can't listen to the guru who's going to tell you how to do something. It's not sexy, but there you can't listen to the guru who's going to tell you how to do something. It's not real. That's not how it really works and you will regret that.

Kevin Palmieri:

I'm, I'm certain of it. Will anybody know? You regret it? Probably not, but you will. You'll get so much external feedback and external love and external validation and it'll probably drive you insane because internally you won't feel like you deserve any of it, because the truth is you don't, you didn't do the work. You, if you lie, if you cheat, if you steal to get to a place that looks really good, you're gonna know you didn't really earn it and we want to earn it it feels good to earn it.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, we all think we want to be given something, but I don't think we really. I mean I, if somebody messaged me and said, hey, I'll give you 50, thou it's like I take it. Probably I take it. I don't think I would. I know you would.

Alan Lazaros:

I'd give you, I'd give you three $4 of it, something like that Well to me, and again I think this is the beautiful thing. Well to me, and again I think this is the beautiful thing. I think that earning it, Think of any movie, Think of any film, those are the same thing, Alan. Think of your favorite film. The character who's the most virtuous is the one you look up to the most. This is a silly reference, but I always loved Liam Neeson's character in the first Star Wars movie. His name was Qui-Gon Jinn.

Kevin Palmieri:

Ah yes, the old Qui-Gon. You know Qui-Gon? No, I've heard you speak of him Best character ever.

Alan Lazaros:

The dude was just extremely wise and unbelievably virtuous. He took the high road To me. There have been therapy sessions I've been in with my therapist, carol, where she asked me while we were in sort of she'd have me go inward and close my eyes and we'd do meditation. And she said what does little Alan think of you? And I I had the actual moment and I highly recommend everyone does this. Maybe it's with a therapist, maybe it's alone, it's just a simple meditation.

Alan Lazaros:

But when you get deep into your brain and you're imagining you as a little version of you and you're looking at you as the younger version, she said what do you think? And I said, holy shit, good for you and it was so much more that I'm probably uncomfortable sharing which is, you have the hottest girlfriend. Oh my God, good for you. I mean, she's gorgeous beyond all the girls I wanted when I was growing up, and so I was. Just, I was a loser. I need people to understand this. I was such a fucking loser I couldn't get girls to look at me, and so, of course, little Alan is like whoa, you're my fucking hero. So of course, little Alan is like whoa, you're my fucking hero and I think that that's what matters you versus you. Yes, you got to be competitive. Yes, you got to take in perspectives and feedback from other people. I got feedback from someone earlier that I was like, eh, okay, I'll take that with a grain of salt.

Alan Lazaros:

I do think there's some merit to it, but also I don't know if I want to change. It really always will be you versus you and will be you versus you, and I do think you got to have a chip on your shoulder. I do think some something in you needs to want to prove something to people. I get that. I think that let those things drive you, especially the fucking bullies. Let it drive you. Don't let it drive you nuts, but definitely let it drive you to your goals and dreams. But ultimately, what you realize over time, when you get older and older and older, is you just go. Oh. I am so blown away at what I've done and who I've become. I think the last one who I've become, I really do think that's what matters.

Kevin Palmieri:

Next level nation. What is happening? If you've thought to yourself I want to try coaching, but you don't really know where to start, group coaching would be a wonderful place for you. That's really why we created it in the first place. We start a new round every 90 days. So if you're hearing this, go to the website nextleveluniversecom and we have the landing page where you can actually hold your spot right now. Even if there's a group going on right now, you can still lock your spot for the next one. The biggest thing that we've seen is, as we get closer and closer to the date, unfortunately, some people end up missing. The group fills up and they can't do it, and then they end up regretting that. So please head over to the website. The link will be in the show notes and we would love to see you there.

Alan Lazaros:

Another great movie, black Panther. I is what we all aspire to be, and the villain in every film is some arrogant, fucking asshole. Who's a bully. Like it's easy it's easier to feel better about yourself by tearing someone down than it is to build yourself up. It's not easy. Like the harder road is the longer road and the higher road is always the harder road. Of course, anyone can buy a fucking Instagram account and be quote-unquote famous or go on Love Island and just whatever happens happens. Last piece I promise about this monologue.

Alan Lazaros:

I was with someone years ago who was 10 times more famous than me, probably 100 times. Okay, I'm not that famous. 100 times more famous than me. 100 times the impact, 100 times more famous, 100 times more status, 100 times more credibility. I am fucking certain that when I was in a room with this man, I felt better about myself than he feels about himself. I'm certain I can tell it's actually not even close. That is what I started playing for at 26. After that car accident. I started playing for how I feel about myself, self-esteem and self-worth and self-respect.

Alan Lazaros:

I think self-respect, more than anything, comes from who you are and what you are when no one's watching. I am so proud of myself for the way I treat Emilia Smith. I am so proud of myself for the work we do in the world. It may not all be perfect, some of it's hot garbage, but the intentions, the desire to help people grow and contribute, the leading by example and not being full of shit I'm so proud of that. The mentors we've said fuck off to, I'm so proud of that. We didn't say that but we moved on and I'm proud of that I am. I think pride gets a bad name because it's ego, but there's a sincere, earned level of self-respect that I think we often call pride. I would call it self-respect. You're never going to have self-respect when you're selling out.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's hard to. It's hard to make it land, though I agree a thousand percent. But if I don't know, I mean I don't think I've ever wanted to sell out, I don't think that was ever. I don't who knows that. I have bouts of that in the past, probably when I was younger. But I remember you, remember, you and I, we, when we were planning on moving away from a mentor, I said, dude, this we have to do this for us, like this has to. This is for inner stuff. This is not gonna this is gonna hurt us externally. For sure, oh for sure, it definitely did. It's gonna hurt us externally, but I hope and my thought is that what we make up internally will allow us to outlast longer and long enough for it to make sense externally. And honestly it's, it hurt us a lot Externally it hurt us a lot of unique listeners every week.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, we had. We had some really big opportunities because of that, but it got to the point where I felt like we were selling out. I felt like we were pretending to be something we weren't and we were looking past things that weren't aligned because there were things that were more aligned beyond them. It's like that's, that's kind of a red flag. Ooh, those are big green flags, though over there. Yeah, that red flag looks a lot, but you can only to you for that, Because you that gave.

Alan Lazaros:

I think you having the courage to share that with me helped me agree with you and move on. I appreciate it. I appreciate it Absolutely man.

Kevin Palmieri:

I don't like being around people who don't have good characters. I can't fucking stand it. I cannot stand it. I don't. There's a reason I am a loner. That is one of the reasons I don't. I would much rather be alone and surround myself with misaligned people and again, I know not everybody has that relationship with relationships. But I don't. I'm not interested. I'm not interested. I don't care what you can do for me. I don't care who you can connect me with, I don't care. Be a good fucking person, just be a good person, that's it. I would rather hang out with somebody who can do nothing for me that's a good person Than somebody who is just not nice and can do everything. I'm not interested, don't need it. Don't need it. Don't need it Because I'll lose sleep. I will lose sleep over that.

Kevin Palmieri:

That's my, it's called having standards man.

Alan Lazaros:

This is good, I suppose it is.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's called having standards. Man, this is good. I suppose it is. It's a good thing. Throw those shades back on, will you? You, son of a bitch, throw those shades back on?

Alan Lazaros:

No, I'm not going to. Let's go for a walk, let's take off. For anyone watching or listening your goals, your dreams, your core values, your core beliefs, it's really difficult, I'm telling you. Being on other podcasts, podcasts, being in the public figure space, there's a lot of opportunity for hey, if you come on my show I'll bring you know. Will you have me on your all the time? There's all the time. It's always this transactional. I just I get why that is. I do. I just I've never once looked back and regretted taking the high road.

Kevin Palmieri:

Do you? It sucks in the moment, sometimes, though right, definitely, if we were honest about that, it sucks Of course, and it sucks some of the missed opportunities.

Alan Lazaros:

Of course, yeah, of course this is success and fulfillment. I think it needs to be fulfillment first, success opportunities. Of course, yeah, of course this is success and fulfillment. I think it needs to be fulfillment first, success second. I do. Let me rephrase that Self-respect first, success second. And if you choose self-respect first, I think that you will attract.

Alan Lazaros:

I just know for a fact that I would never have met Emilia had I not chosen self-respect first. I needed to become a virtuous man, the most virtuous man I can possibly be. I never talk about this, but I made a decision after my car accident at 26 that I would become the most virtuous man in the world, the most virtuous man I can possibly be and, honestly, the most virtuous man on planet Earth. That was my commitment to myself, my promise to myself. As a matter of fact, I never planned on sharing that, but and I can tell you, that path has been way fucking harder. Of course, and and not or, and.

Alan Lazaros:

I don't believe I would have ever met Emilia Smith had I not made that decision, because that's the one decision when Kev came to me and was like, hey, man, I don't know about that, or hey, I don't know about this mentor. I was like, ah, I made that promise to myself. I made that promise to myself, the promises you make to yourself, the standards you set inside. There's certain things that come as a byproduct of that and they don't come right away. I was lonely for a long time, but I do know that I would never have met Emilia had I not made that decision.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, I was thinking of something the other day. I don't remember what it was. I'm on a podcast, babe, I love you. I don't remember what it was. I'm on a podcast, babe, I love you. I don't remember what it was, but it was. It was something relatively small. I wish I could remember what it was, because I don't have a good context. But it was just yeah, no, I can't do that. If I, if I was to do that, it would. That would be a thing that I would have forever. You, you can't just. It doesn't just go away, it doesn't just go away. Yeah, you'd always know it's always there and nobody else would know. Nobody else would know, but I would know that I let myself down, and that's what matters. When I was young, when I was like 18, I almost cheated on my girlfriend.

Alan Lazaros:

I was just going to say I've never cheated. I've never cheated. I came very close, Not with Emilia. I've never been even remotely close with Emilia.

Kevin Palmieri:

I need to make that as clear as possible.

Alan Lazaros:

I also don't leave the house, so there's no stress. There no worries. But in the past I was close and I couldn't do it. I had it set up, Couldn't do it.

Kevin Palmieri:

It was right up to like. We were going into the same room and I was like I can't fucking do this. If I do this one thing, I forever, for the rest of time, will have to say well, there was this one time when I was 18. No, I can't do that, I can't that. So I think that's a really good example and again, shame on me for even thinking about it in the first place, but I think that's a really good example of reverse engineering.

Kevin Palmieri:

Regret I would regret that, and that would always be this little checkmark in a box that I don't want to checkmark in. And I think that's selling your soul doesn't mean that you have to buy an Instagram page or whatever. It can mean anything. It can mean you're doing something, you're meeting a need in a negative way. That's going to really really take away from your needs Eventually. That would be my next level lesson. It's not it doesn't have to be something as big as stealing or whatever it is. It's, I think, oftentimes and maybe it's not as serious as quote unquote selling your soul, but if you're doing stuff that isn't good for your own self-respect, you're hurting yourself, unfortunately 100%.

Alan Lazaros:

I think of it like a glass of water. I know we got to jump.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah it's a glass of water, brother. There are pictures of me in the past where I had mud in my glass. There are pictures that we show in monthly meetups or Next Level Live, if you were there. There was a picture of me where I was making bad. There was basically a picture of a canvas slide cut in half. On the left was me nearly blackout drunk. That night I actually peed myself and I told everyone I spilled on myself yeah well, that's an interesting area to spill on yourself. And it just in big red, bold letters. It said bad choices. And on the other side, on the right, it was me, emilia and Tucker, just fulfilled in the sun, looking good, feeling good, wildly in love. And it said good choices in green. And I told everyone at Next Level Live I used to make some choices that were outside of alignment with my highest self and I do regret it.

Alan Lazaros:

I don't regret all of it, I had a lot of fun, but I do regret it. I knew that I was better than that and I made terrible fucking choices. And after my car accident, when I faced my highest self and my highest self said, brother, you're better than this and you know it. And all the regret fulfilled me Not fulfilled me, filled me, and it's like you're changing now and you're never making that mistake again and you're never going to forget that at the end of the day, when you face mortality, what's going to matter is who the fuck you became and how you feel about you and I.

Alan Lazaros:

That was 10 years ago and I started making good choices and I quit drinking and I stopped doing all drugs. I always say caffeine is my last remaining drug. No one's taken it. My last vice is caffeine, but I've been sober now for six years. My life has become magnificent and I know it's because of that decision. I'm really, really, really fulfilled on a day-to-day basis.

Alan Lazaros:

Now. Sometimes my life still sucks. It's really really challenging. We're climbing a big mountain here, but at the end of the day I hope the listeners and or viewers are your highest self is talking to you. Whether you want to get spiritual or not, it is. Your highest self knows what the high road is. The high road every day. We saw a little water bottle when we were on our walk this morning and it was. We got to pick that up. We got to pick that up. It's litter. It's not ours, it's not our responsibility. We're going to pick that up, we're going to put it in the recycling. Just a little shit. It builds a little bit of self-esteem, a little bit of self-esteem, a little bit of self-respect, a little bit of self-respect. And then, yes, you'll lose some friends who feel bad around you because they are not making those little choices every day, and that's unfortunately the case.

Kevin Palmieri:

If you have lost your friends, unfortunately, or you're drifting apart from your friends and you're looking for aligned relationships based on self-improvement, personal development, getting better. Next levelness join our private Facebook group, next Level Nation. Again, I know now seems like maybe the hardest time ever to make friends, but also it also could be the easiest. If you jump in a group message some people and say, hey, I'm looking for a study buddy, I'm looking for a peak performance partner, whatever it is we'll have the link in the show notes.

Alan Lazaros:

This book right here, reset by Dan Heath. If you're listening to this and it's Saturday morning today at 1230 pm Eastern Standard Time, we have book club. The registration link will be in the show notes. We have a private WhatsApp group Great books with great people, next level books with next level people. And I say this in the opening of book club. I say listen, we're here to reach our potential. We can have fun, but we're not here for fun. We can enjoy ourselves and laugh, but we're not here to laugh, we, but we're not here to laugh. We're here to reach our fucking potential. That's what book club is about, and if you want to reach your potential, I hope you join us.

Kevin Palmieri:

Next Level Nation. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you and NLU. We don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.

Alan Lazaros:

Keep it Next Level Next.

Kevin Palmieri:

Level Nation. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros:

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow. You.

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