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Can You Maximize Your Potential Without Burnout? (2091)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Balancing growth and burnout is a challenge we all face. In this episode, Kevin and Alan share how they stay high-performing without hitting a wall through smart habits, honest reflection, and systems that actually work. Tune in to reset how you think about work, rest, and success.

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Show notes:
(2:15) Finding your personal performance limit
(4:56) Growth isn’t sustainable without rest
(9:46) Daily systems that prevent burnout
(14:14) Next Level Dreamliner: The planner, agenda, journal, and habit tracker to rule them all. Get a copy: https://a.co/d/9fPpxEt
(16:36) Quality of life starts with discipline
(24:42) Success is built on trade-offs
(27:52) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri:

I think there's two types of people One person who just pushes it too far and red lines over and, over, and, over and over again, but probably gets way further than the type two person who is always testing the ice and saying I'll slow down, I'll slow down, I'll slow down, and they never really get to red line. I'm willing to bet that if the first person can survive long enough, they're just going to get way ahead of the second person.

Alan Lazaros:

There's a famous quote only those willing to go too far will ever know how far one can go. The person I heard that from did a commercial where they tried to jump in front of a train and do their own stunts and was killed. So he was reckless. He was reckless. Stay centered, stay humble and, yeah, push it, baby, but do not be reckless.

Kevin Palmieri:

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Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation today for episode number 2091, can you maximize your potential without burnout 991 can you maximize your potential without burnout? I was thinking today because you and I are very different in this in many ways, but similar in other ways. I feel like I am more proactive with knowing burnout is coming. At least I used to be, I'm not saying that anymore and I would be the type of person that would say I got to slow down, because I can tell that if I keep going at the rate I'm going at, things are going to crash and burn.

Alan Lazaros:

You underestimated yourself. I probably did. Yeah, I would say, that's fair.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, I overestimated myself. I think that is the question is, what is the sweet spot for each and every one of us? Because if you're only given 50% all the time, okay, you're probably not going to get as far as you want, but if you're giving 120% and then you have to take a week off every two months, that's probably not ideal either. So how do we figure out what the optimal place is for each of us? Drive to five baby? How do we figure that out, sir? How do we?

Alan Lazaros:

figure out that. One thing was read the obvious signs Monday of this week. The second I was feeling not so good when I woke up. Yeah, I was like oh no. And Emilia, and in the center of our table, our kitchen table, we have what we call a care package and it has everything you could possibly need if or when you may or may not be getting ill. Not everything, but you know what I'm saying and I have a certain potions all the stuff that I made and I immediately take corrective action. I remember all the stuff that I made and I immediately take corrective action.

Alan Lazaros:

As a podcaster, trainer, coach, you need your voice and when your voice starts to go, you get a sore throat. It's okay, I'm not getting good enough sleep. I'm spreading it too thin, I need to hydrate a little better. I got to get this going. So you have to read the obvious signs and you have to learn how to anticipate when the engine is going to blow.

Alan Lazaros:

I've been saying to you a lot lately too much. Every time we get on a meeting I say too much, for sure, too much, same, same, because I know that I can't sustain this yet. But if you pull back too quick, you won't get to the next level and learn how to sustain the next level. So when I say too much, I don't mean this is what I'm really saying to. So when I say too much, I don't mean this is what I'm really saying to Kevin when I say too much, because every time for the last week that we've gotten into a meeting together, I basically said too much.

Alan Lazaros:

Just here's what I'm actually saying. We've reached a new level and I'm proud of us. It's not sustainable yet and I can't add more right now. I have to learn how to play at this level before we get to the next level. So I always think of you go to the next level and then you ratchet it in, and then you go to the next level, and then you ratchet it in, and then you go to the next level and you ratchet it in. If you go next level, next level, next level and you don't give enough time to ratchet it in, you're going to collapse. The whole Jenga tower is going to fall and you're going to burn out, and then you're basically going to waste three days or a week or whatever it is. I mean, you got shingles at the beginning of 2024. I don't remember. It was because we were redlining too much.

Kevin Palmieri:

I forgot about that. Yeah, I forgot about that. It seems like. Doesn't it seem like that was so long ago? It wasn't like that long ago. No, it was this time last year. I'm having the pings now because it's harder for me to fall asleep and again, this has just come with time and awareness. It's harder for me to fall asleep and I wake up in the middle of the night and I can't fall back asleep. That usually is directly connected to the amount of stress I'm going through Same.

Kevin Palmieri:

I sent you something at three o'clock in the morning. Yeah, I was probably up. I just never. Obviously my phone is not in the bedroom, but I was probably. There's a chance. I was up just lying in bed like oh cool yeah same.

Alan Lazaros:

That's definitely an indicator what what end would you rat?

Kevin Palmieri:

I know what end you'd rather be on. What end do you think is best for most people under doing it, or?

Alan Lazaros:

over as long as you're not reckless. So over emily and I talk about this a lot we're both over. We both overestimate what we are capable of in the short term, in the long term, I don't think so in the short term and in the long term, I don't think so In the short term and in the past you used to underestimate what you were capable of. I don't think eight years ago Kev would have imagined you being this version of you and I always knew that you were capable of this and that's kind of neuroplasticity and the subconscious and unconscious mind and personal development and the 1% improvement over time and how that all works. So human beings are capable of so much more than we can possibly fucking fathom. The problem is, in the short term we're actually capable of very little.

Alan Lazaros:

I'm not even kidding, like, if you and I wanted to okay, I showed you some photos of these people, these rock climbers, hanging off cliffs with tents, and no, if you and I wanted to start tomorrow, we could go and become professional cliff climbers. We could. That's just. That's a mathematically doable thing. We're a little old, so we might not be the best in the world because of a lot of neurological reasons and our health and stuff. But we could be world-class in 10, 20, 30 years. For sure we're not going to do that, but we would be fucking terrible tomorrow. Like bad you and I would be atrociously bad tomorrow and I think that's one of the things that really bothers me. I think everyone's under in the short term. Everyone's under in the long term. In the short term, I think they're probably accurate. Like tomorrow, if we went and rock climbed, you're going to suck. So you're accurate, but you're very inaccurate with what you could do. Long term of impossible by stephen collar.

Kevin Palmieri:

We interviewed him very little is actually impossible given a decade, do you think? Okay, why do you think most people have such a bad relationship with being being burnt out or achieving burnout or whatever it is? You think it's because they're doing stuff that they don't like doing? That's part of it? For sure you think it's part of it. What percentage?

Alan Lazaros:

I think, dude, a lot of it is just they don't have their pillars dialed in, seriously, oh and again, how am I supposed to explain this without yeah, I guess so my sleep score? Two days ago I shared on social media and someone reached out my average resting heart rate during sleep was 39 beats per minute, which basically means I was near death. I'm joking, but that athletes have really good cardiovascular health. I have a very good cardiovascular health. We did a 45 minute adventure race earlier. I think it was like three miles and I was just I mean, it's 82 degrees and I was just hammering hill sprints I but I've also worked out every day for 1,192 days and I was just hammering hill sprints, but I've also worked out every day for 1,192 days and I've always been pretty good at cardio stuff.

Alan Lazaros:

At the end of the day, I'm not a marathon runner or anything, but my point is is what people don't really know is all the other stuff I'm doing to be able to do that, like there's nothing that goes in my body. That isn't calculated ever. I eat corn dogs and I do all kinds of stuff. They're vegan corn dogs Like these are really the micros and macros on these things are fucking amazing. So everything's by design.

Alan Lazaros:

And when you see someone who doesn't burn out because people think like how the fuck does this dude not burn out? I know they think that my clients have asked it's my sleep, hydration, nutrition, training, mobility, breath work and supplementation I joke and I say I can't do mobility. I still do mobility more than most people. So at the end of the day, I'm not going to Right now. I'm resourcing with coconut water Right now, during this set to make sure that I'm good for tonight, like I'm optimizing for two coaching sessions later that I need to be on point for.

Alan Lazaros:

So 24-7, 365, I'm always optimizing for longevity and for peak performance and all of that is everything that I'm doing and not doing. I used to say in the gym is just the during. If you see us crushing it in the gym, kevin and I, what you're not seeing is everything before everything, the night before everything, the day before everything, the week before everything, the year before everything, the decade before to lead up to that one workout. It's not like one workout, it's an accumulated compound effect of that and mostly the other stuff's harder agreed we were talking to stick with it's.

Kevin Palmieri:

We were talking about dieting yesterday and and we're so we're doing the 10 pound in 10 week challenge again. Whatever pound in 10 weeks you want, I'm aiming for five to six or seven, I don't know, we'll see, but I'm not there's no, I'm gonna get 10, but it's just. That is the hard part. The hard the going to the gym. It sucks and my workouts suck and I don't want to go, but it's, it's the other 19 hours, or however many hours I'm up, depending on the day. That's like the the really hard thing. Okay, make that land for somebody, though, because that seems extremely yeah unfathomable.

Alan Lazaros:

Are you under or are you over? I think most people underestimate what they're capable of long term and are on the wrong end of this.

Kevin Palmieri:

They overestimate what they're capable of in the short run. And underestimate what they're capable of yeah which is why they're burning out.

Alan Lazaros:

That's a good way to, and I would ask you too, because you've been on both ends. I think that's one of the reasons why a lot of the things you say are more valuable.

Kevin Palmieri:

I have my R&R dialed in. That's why I don't burn out. So Alan and I were going to meet this morning and something came up and Alan said hey, I got to push it and I was like dude, I can't do this other Cause I have a call that's going to run into that and honestly I'm I'm burning out pretty bad. I'm running on like three days of 60 sleep scores Like not good.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri:

And really dieting hard and I've weight trained every day Free, yeah, no, no, no, we trained, but I I'm 94% this quarter, nice year. I've gone to the gym 94% this quarter, nice, this quarter of the time and, like it's just, there's a lot of stuff that's catching up. I've been fucking up mobility. I haven't been doing mobility at all.

Alan Lazaros:

I need to figure that out. 94%.

Kevin Palmieri:

But it's good. Alan said do you want to? Why do you want to measure that? And I was like I need to know how often I'm going to the gym, like I need, I just need to know it helps me. But I'm trying to be proactive, of like, could I do if you said, hey, man, I the only time I have from my schedule currently is eight to nine tonight like of course I could do it. I just don't think it's optimal based on the way I'm feeling. And but again, that's also like not everybody gets that opportunity right, not not everybody can say well, I'm just going to move my calendar around.

Kevin Palmieri:

So I think this is, this is the weird thing where I think segments of personal development cross into each other or cross over. This is one of the reasons boundaries are so important. If you're burnt out, you have to set boundaries around doing the shit that you don't want to do. But you have the option not to do. Oh, you have a family reunion that you don't want to go to because your family fucking stresses you out and drains you.

Kevin Palmieri:

Don't go yeah set a boundary and don't go. I what you're doing at your nine to five. I can't help you with that and that is what it is. You got to pay the bills, right, but. But I think I am just somebody who's very proactive with it. I think that comes naturally to me is I'll do the all-out sprint, sprint, sprint, sprint, sprint, sprint, but I know that there's like a bench in X amount of feet where I'll be able to sit down and catch my breath. That's something I've had when I used to travel for work. It was literally an all-out sprint for five days, six days, and then I would get one day of rest, and that one day of rest I did nothing. I ordered pizza. Every single, every single time I ordered pizza, I watched ufc or I watched movies, and then I prepared for sunday to leave again. That was it pretty much for years.

Alan Lazaros:

For years I did that now you're thinking more like a marathoner trying. Yeah, there's a bunch of metaphors. It's like the nascar you gotta get the pit stop. The longer you're at the pit stop, the more time. Hello, hello, hello. Nlu listener, thank you, as always, for listening to Next Level University. Real quick, I just want to jump in and let you know about the Next Level Dreamliner. This is a journal that I use every single day. Achieve your dreams 90 days at a time. It breaks down your dreams into goals, milestones and daily habits. We hope you enjoy it. The link will be in the show notes. All right, picture a NASCAR race if you've ever seen one Formula One whatever, when they pull over to redo the tires or whatever they do. I don't know man.

Kevin Palmieri:

Nothing like using an analogy. You can't explain, you know it.

Alan Lazaros:

I always used to think when I was a kid, we used to play, you got this grand turismo oh, let's play grand turismo, great game yeah, it was far and whenever.

Alan Lazaros:

I would watch races wasn't often, but I would think what is the optimal amount of time that you do the pit stop to where that doesn't fuck up the race, and I think that's a good metaphor for productivity. I'm not. I never R&R to R&R. I R&R out of a necessity. You recharge your iPhone to make sure that it functions the next day. To me, it's about and again, I know that this isn't normal, but if you do start thinking this way, your life will be much better statistically.

Alan Lazaros:

When you R&R, when I buy a movie that I really want to see, that's higher quality R&R so that I can crush it more tomorrow, I'll be more fulfilled. So I'm thinking about filling my cup. There's certain things that fill your cup and there's certain things that fill your cup quicker Getting great sleep. Whatever your core values are For me film and food I will not eat the same shit every day. I can't stand it. How do I recharge my batteries, my batteries, my batteries faster, more effectively, more efficiently, so that I can crush it more tomorrow? Now here's the difference in the metaphor your battery gets bigger. I would love to see Kevin now versus Kevin eight years ago. It would be ridiculous, dude. You'd be running circles around that fucking guy.

Alan Lazaros:

For sure, and you'd R&R smarter, you'd work smarter, you'd work harder. I mean, I remember you used to shut down in the middle of a conversation. Brain was done.

Kevin Palmieri:

now you can go for fucking nine hours straight question easily when you, when you look at your calendar on sunday, what do you think? Are you thinking like, okay, I'm gonna maximize my potential here? Are you thinking I gotta survive? What are you thinking like, okay, I'm going to maximize my potential here, are you thinking I got to survive? What are you thinking?

Alan Lazaros:

It depends. That's great, great question. I appreciate it. Every Sunday I look at my calendar and I go. There's one of three reactions. One is going to be I got to fill that fucker Like. This is what are we doing here? Right, that's very rare these days, luckily.

Kevin Palmieri:

right, that's very rare these days, luckily the second one is okay, yeah, pretty good. And then the third one is I'm fucked, yeah well, we, I've had a lot of conversations.

Alan Lazaros:

I tell emilia too, because we talk every sunday about our calendar and it's part of our check-in. I'm fucked and and when I say that she knows, okay, I'm gonna have to pick up all the fucking pieces this week.

Kevin Palmieri:

Do you do anything on sunday to prepare for that, or is that just see for me? This is the thing there for you. There is no finish line no really for me, there is sunday saturday night is the finish line saturday night is what we call our fuck off night. Yeah, and it's same, it's okay.

Alan Lazaros:

So if I get to Saturday night alive and like, still good, not sick.

Kevin Palmieri:

So far, so good.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, so far. Well, I meant not ill not sick.

Alan Lazaros:

The goal in life is to be the healthiest version of yourself and to get sick the least amount of time. I went nine years without getting sick and then I got sick twice in 2024. I was like fuck, I got to change my life. I was aging terribly, but when I get, I'm trying to get to Saturday night without getting sick and without I need to, without hurting my family, like get to Saturday night as effectively as possible without getting sick and without, while building my health, wealth and love, while building my relationship, building the business, building the family, and make sure Emilia doesn't have to take care of everything because she sometimes that we have there's something called fair play, so sometimes she's 80% and I'm 20%.

Alan Lazaros:

Next Level Live is a good example of that. She takes 80% of the responsibilities and I'm just I suck, and then other times it's the opposite and I'm doing more. So I'm always balancing that who's doing more? And we have a relationship where there's a book called 80-80, where both partners are trying to do more for the other partner than the other person. We're like competing to see who can be the better partner. It's much better than what I've done in the past, not what I've done, but what I've had.

Alan Lazaros:

It's not good. It doesn't work well when only one partner is competing for that.

Kevin Palmieri:

I'll give 100. You give zero. I've been there, man.

Alan Lazaros:

It lasted for too long. But back to what you were going to say. What?

Kevin Palmieri:

was I going to say? For me, I think it's more. I see my calendar and then it's like, okay, I have to survive until Saturday and then I try anywhere I can find like a little extra pocket. Not, it's not really, because it's not like a pocket in the day. I don't know if I have a good example. I'm trying to get way more dialed in. So last night when we recorded we recorded from 7 to 8. And I knew we were recording late last night, so I ate dinner. I had an hour in between calls. I ate dinner then.

Alan Lazaros:

Lunch, but yeah.

Kevin Palmieri:

No dinner Dinner for me. Four to five is dinner oh word Right. Lunch, but yeah, no dinner dinner for me. Four or five. Four to five is dinner oh word right. Because I knew that when we finished, at whatever time, if I eat and then I try to go to bed, it always fucks my sleep up. Nice, always, always, always. So that to me that is an example of.

Kevin Palmieri:

I know one way for me to get burnt out is not getting enough sleep, which I'm dealing with right now. But one way to make sure, or at least increase the chances, that I get good sleep, is to not eat a couple hours before I sleep, especially when I'm only having one meal a day. So I'm firing down a cup of rice and 10 ounces of meat and whatever, whatever else I'm having. Not ideal to eat that right before you go to bed. For me it just doesn't work. So I think that's a piece of it too, is how do you proactively just the understanding of how all things connect, I think, is that would be my next level lesson for this episode.

Alan Lazaros:

I know we're gonna jump back in the day when you, if you heard an episode like this, would you say what's the point? Yeah, for sure, fuck, that sounds terrible okay what I would say to that younger Kev is you're not going to be successful.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, I do think this is one of the reasons that success is not as desired as people think, and we're going to talk about that in next episode.

Alan Lazaros:

But I can't have a higher quality life. It's almost like you can't have a higher quality of life unless you have higher quality effectiveness.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, I think most people want higher quality and higher quantity, and you don't you don't really get both no, eventually you can I mean you do this 25 years in 25 years if I can't have a higher quality and quantity.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, I know you will, for sure it'll always be higher quality and quantity to some extent, I don't know, I think, the quantity, if anything, I work.

Kevin Palmieri:

You work more than you ever have. I work more than I ever have.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, but see, this is why this is so messed up. This doesn't work. We're building a future. We're building a company. I know, I know that doesn't have to be the way it is for everyone.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, it is what we have to do mathematically to build a.

Alan Lazaros:

I don't want to say this because I'm scared, but I have to now because I'm going to lose self-respect if I don't. Kevin and I want to build a future billion dollar company. That is the goal. That is the goal. So we have to.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yes, and mathematically you most likely are going to have to, for some season at least You're going to have to for some season at least you're gonna have to do it for the first year, or you're gonna have to do it for the first however long it's.

Alan Lazaros:

Work hard, then work smarter. Yeah, then work hard, then work smarter. Then work hard, then work smarter. I do think everyone's gonna have to max out, but eventually you and I like when I have children, I'm not gonna be able to do 11 to 8 every day. I'll have.

Kevin Palmieri:

I can't I'll have to do noon to 7, wait right what will Right. What will I do? I'll do 4 to 5 pm, eastern Standard, once on Wednesdays.

Alan Lazaros:

Absolutely not. You'll have to work more. You know I'm fucking with you.

Kevin Palmieri:

No, you're probably not.

Alan Lazaros:

I'll have the mornings and the evenings with the kids. But I'm going to definitely do at least noon to 7. Or noon to 6, worst case scenario, but that has to be be by then hopefully we have enough demand to where it can be more higher. It's going to be higher quality because you have more demand in the beginning of business. You don't really no one knows you, no one cares.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah well, those are, those are the hard yards, and I mean there's, I think it's always hard yards really, but those are the hard yards because nobody knows and nobody cares. Now, the hard yards are a lot of people know and a lot of people care.

Alan Lazaros:

Great, it's better problem to have for sure, I have a new goal on this podcast. Yeah, convince old kev I don't know convince old kev?

Kevin Palmieri:

I think we can convince, I don't think you can, because the consciousness I had I was not willing to trade in. How long did it take me to trade in a lot of the things that I traded in? It took. Could we speed that up? Yeah, but I'm not gonna go from where I was to where I am. No way.

Alan Lazaros:

But if old kev heard from this kev and this kev was assertive and said I know but this kev would be why do you work so much?

Kevin Palmieri:

but I would be honest. Yeah, but my life's way better than you? Yeah, it is, but I also have way less time to enjoy that. That's true. It is what that is 100, you have all the time to enjoy this is super fucking enjoyable.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, this is enjoyable, but you know what I mean. Yeah, I do, I do it's just that's.

Kevin Palmieri:

That's. That is what I would. That is what I would give to old kevin honestly, like it's awesome and you have way more opportunity and things are great. And you're also gonna have to be extremely disciplined with your time, because the second you start fucking off I know investing all your time into fun, you know that you're gonna lose all the momentum you've built.

Kevin Palmieri:

It's an equation that you always have to have your finger on, and I think it's really easy to lose sight of the equation. All right, what's your next little lesson? We gotta get out of here.

Alan Lazaros:

Uh, mother goose my next level lesson is if you want a higher quality life, you have to have higher quality effectiveness on the day to day and productivity. Kevin made the sunflower analogy. You plant a sunflower and it grows, and then you take some of the seeds to replant new sunflowers. Now you go from one sunflower to 10 next season, then 10 to 20, then 20 to 40, 40 to 80. And eventually you have a sunflower company. But you can't eat all the seeds. You've got to reinvest. You can eat more each time, Each time.

Kevin Palmieri:

But in the beginning you kind of give them all back.

Alan Lazaros:

And that's how money works. That's how everything works, and I don't think we were ever taught it. It's unfortunate.

Kevin Palmieri:

I was taught how to balance a checkbook and that has essentially become fucking useless, so unfortunately, I didn't learn anything from that. 100% All right. Next Level Nation. If you are looking to what's your next level lesson.

Kevin Palmieri:

I gave several of them. I would say, if you have to be very honest about whether the quality and quantity of your life and the time you have available is going to increase, I Of your life and the time you have available is going to increase. I don't think it. I think it's a very dangerous game to assume it's like one One affects the other so much. It's Okay, I'm dieting. Could I Download a book that is all about macro friendly recipes and blah blah blah? Yes, I could. Is that ever going to be as good as blah blah blah? Yes, I could. Is that ever going to be as good as the cheesecake factory? Fuck, no, it's not. It's good because I'm dieting. No, it's. It's probably not a meal. You're going to wake up one day and be like oh, I can't wait to have this thing that I ate when I was dieting. It's good because of the circumstances. I think it's the same with this. Nice, this is what I'm saying. All right, cool, all right.

Kevin Palmieri:

Next Level Nation. If you want to balance your checkbook, we have the Next Level Dreamliner. You can do it right in this bad Larry. No, if you're looking to build a habit of journaling and retrospection, we have the Dreamliner, it'll take you like five minutes a day. I did it today.

Alan Lazaros:

It took me maybe three, so it's a really good way to sustainably build in this new habit, especially if it's something that you've fallen off track on or you're trying to get on track for the first time. I just realized that we had a monthly meetup last night.

Kevin Palmieri:

Didn't even talk about it.

Alan Lazaros:

I don't have the other one chosen. 18 people attended. Thank you all so much. It was awesome. I'm going to pick our next one next time and I'm gonna have a link available, but it won't be on the next episode, it'll be four episodes from now perfect that was the worst promotion I think I've ever done in my entire life, some things you're better off not saying.

Alan Lazaros:

That was an example of that, if you want to join our next meetup, dm me seriously name and email and I will make sure that you get registered to the next one.

Kevin Palmieri:

And it might be good. It'll probably be good Dealer's Choice. Mystery Box Could be anything. It'll be fire man.

Alan Lazaros:

It's going to be fire man, those trainings are legit, now that Kevin's not there.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, I'm not invited. That's the thing. If you want to go, I'm not there anymore. We love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you in NLU. We don't have fans, we have family. We will talk to you all tomorrow.

Alan Lazaros:

Keep it next level, next level nation.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros:

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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