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Should You Start Chasing Money? (2099)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Is chasing money always wrong or just misunderstood? In today’s heartfelt episode, Kevin and Alan explore what happens when purpose meets profit. Through stories, lessons, and a powerful “four buckets” framework, they reveal how your relationship with money can shape your path. If you’ve ever felt torn between passion and paycheck, this one will speak to your soul.

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Show notes:
(3:11) Why money won’t fix everything
(4:31) Attracting Vs. Chasing goals
(5:21) Alan’s pyramid: Health, wealth, love
(9:17) The illusion of passion-only income
(13:13) The four buckets of life
(14:09) Next Level Dreamliner: The planner, agenda, journal, and habit tracker to rule them all. Get a copy: https://a.co/d/9fPpxEt
(20:43) From podcasting to real business
(25:25) Mastering money
(28:04) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri:

I saw a piece of advice from an older gentleman today, and that piece of advice was you should not chase money If I had a regret. When I'm looking back in my life, the regrets I have are around chasing money. I disagree and we're going to talk about that.

Alan Lazaros:

Some people say money buys happiness. Money doesn't grow on trees. There's all these money quotes. Money doesn't grow on trees. There's all these money quotes. I say money should not be number one, but it definitely shouldn't be number five or number 10 or number 15. It's a priority but it's not the most important priority.

Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University. I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri.

Alan Lazaros:

And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.

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Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation today for episode number 2099. Should you start chasing money? Yes, that is my answer. Have a good one, have a good one. I don't think it's that cut and dry, but I do think that people get lost in the well. Do what you're passionate about, you know, do what you feel your purpose is, what your calling is, and eventually you'll get there and the money will come. Somebody said that to me the other day. They said I know as long as I stay in my calling and do what I love, the money will come. No, it won't.

Alan Lazaros:

No it won't.

Kevin Palmieri:

That's not the way it works. That is the way that we, not the way it works. That is the way that we have been convinced it works, and I don't think that's doing us any deserve any service. I think that's doing us a disservice. I think you should chase the priority in the percentage that it is valued. It's valuable to you. You have a fan on man. Yeah, it's hot in here. Okay, yeah, a little hot in here. I didn't turn the ac on today. It's a whole thing. Also, your audio is dog shit, so I'm gonna need you to step off me. Okay, you're the producer of the show look, my audio sucks.

Kevin Palmieri:

That's on you. No, it's not because you and I have been working on it. You can't use this fucking laptop. I tell him all the time. It's a whole thing. I tried using the other one.

Alan Lazaros:

It shut down right in the middle of it.

Kevin Palmieri:

We have troubleshot, we have done all the troubleshooting. I don't know where else to.

Alan Lazaros:

We're going to get some new tech I do have a fan on in the corner. We're going to have a huge come up, you and I. Yeah, we are going to have a come up In 2025, probably 2026, by 2026, we are going to have a whole new I'm in Whole new tech setup.

Kevin Palmieri:

We have some other goals. First, though, we have some other goals. Of course, we've got to check off those goals. First, we have some money. I believe you should prioritize something to the degree of importance it has in your life, and I think people say don't chase money, because the reason people chase money is because they think it's going to fix your problems. That's not true, unless you have money problems. If you have money problems, more money will obviously help that, but if you have self-worth, self-belief, relationship problems, strategy problems, money is not necessarily going to help that at all. So I don't think it's bad to chase it. I think it's bad to chase it thinking that it's going to solve all your problems. I don't know.

Kevin Palmieri:

When you messaged Emilia, you were chasing the opportunity for a relationship. 100%, love, love. I'm chasing fitness. The reason we do a 10 pound in 10 week challenge is because that's the only way we're going to get our asses in shape 100%, and I'm talking about Alan and I, but I know it's super helpful for everybody in the community too. I'm chasing being in better shape. Why is chasing something a bad thing Now? Chasing with the assumption that when you catch it, everything is going to be rainbows and unicorns. That's where I think things get dangerous.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, I think people get confused about the attract versus chase, the pursuit. The other thing too. I think life is a pyramid. Of course, I would Favorite part about a pyramid. I know listeners if you're a long-term listener, I know you hear about my pyramids all the time. I know Hang with me. The bottom has to be wider in order for the pyramid to go taller. So I think if you want to reach your potential and have the highest quality of life possible, you need to master three things, in this order. Number one health. Physical, mental, emotional and spiritual health. That's the bottom of the pyramid and that has to be the widest.

Alan Lazaros:

Next is wealth how you earn your money. In other words, is it meaningful work to you? Number two how much do you earn? Is it increasing or decreasing, based on where the future is headed? I always joke.

Alan Lazaros:

It's a metaphor, don't get offended. I had someone reach out. I love horses. Listen, it's a metaphor, take it easy. So don't sell horses when the car is invented. That's. It's a metaphor, right? A lot of people they, they train for something and then it gets automated. It's like oh shit, uh-oh right. So it has to be.

Alan Lazaros:

Number one how you earn your money. Is it meaningful work to you? Number two is it increasing or decreasing, based on the future? So truck drivers potentially in trouble? You guys know this. Don't villainize me. You guys know this. When there's going to be self-driving trucks there already are people are going to be losing their jobs. That's a fact. That's going to happen, whether you like it or not. So you better be retooling now. I care enough to tell you the truth. Number three investor versus consumer. Baby, where are you investing your money? I've been working with someone behind the scenes and we have already made her. So I said if you want to be wealthy, you can. We just got to learn how to do it. You, you were spending so much money needlessly. We just got to button it up. I couldn't believe I. A lot of people really are spending money needlessly. For sure, of course I. I don't think I've ever done that, brother I was a huge fan.

Kevin Palmieri:

I was a huge fan in general of doing it for a long time, most of my life. I'd still like I'd love to go back if I knew it wasn't going to end up broke if I did. But that's what would happen.

Alan Lazaros:

So that's what it is how you make your money meaningful work to you, how much you make, increasing or decreasing, at what rate? And then the third one is where you invest it. Kevin's been on point saving money lately. We just downgraded our StreamYard subscription to save 40 bucks a month. Thank so much. Great idea, brother. I appreciate that. Dude, I appreciate you coming to me with that idea. That's 40 bucks a month. We can now put that in team or put that in cameras, or put that in thai food, which is where I'm gonna put it. I'm joking. You understand my point paninis for this weekend. Seriously though, paninis hot table, paninis, paninis, hot table. I told you remember, remember the hot, the hot table.

Kevin Palmieri:

I do, I do. I've been on a kick. There's a place called it's called Bubba Coo's Burritos. Dude, it puts Chipotle to fucking shame. It does. It's so good, the food is so fresh. They have like grilled burrito, burrito tacos. Oh my god, it's so good. It's so good. Decent macros as well it's good, sweet.

Alan Lazaros:

Is this a franchise? It is a franchise, nice and is it?

Kevin Palmieri:

available where I live. I don't know. I could look that up for you. I'm not sure.

Alan Lazaros:

Bubba coos, bubba coos alright, what was I talking about? Finance, okay, so now you've got wealth. Yeah, awesome, and in that order. I do think it should be in that order and then love.

Alan Lazaros:

I'll ask you that, okay. And then love. Love is your intimate relationship first, very, very important. Then it's immediate family, extended family, friends, colleagues, clients, mentors, mentees, team, not necessarily in that order, but love, the love bucket. And if you have those three, if you're healthy, wealthy and in love and you're investing your time and effort to become healthier, wealthier and more in love that's the dream. You only get one life. I think about this. Earlier I was in the garage just frustrated because my day's off the rails. I was like you know, alan, you really are maximizing this one life that you have. You're doing a good job. Keep it up. It's all good, it's all good.

Kevin Palmieri:

Now you're also messing up and then you punch yourself in the throat and said get back to work, get back to work.

Alan Lazaros:

But it was definitely one of those moments of you know, I know you feel like you're losing, but you are winning at life. You're not winning in any one thing compared to what you your your potential but you're winning in life. You're doing a good job, so good for you, but anyways. So that's the pyramid health, wealth and love, baby, and, and it. It needs to be in that order and they all need to be worked on and invested in and and focused on consistently.

Kevin Palmieri:

I would say the times in my life where I made the most money. It was the time I was most focused on chasing it. I don't think that's a coincidence no, of course not right now I'm very focused on growing the business.

Kevin Palmieri:

I'm having the best quarter I've ever had, ever of all time. Is that a coincidence? No, that's not a coincidence, but again, I think it's with the assumption that chasing means you assume when you catch it, everything will work out. No, that's not. I'm not under that illusion. I know that's not. This is how focused I am on money right now. Okay, I bought a brand new car. You've heard kind of the Chronicles. I bought a brand new car. Apple CarPlay didn't work. Tried to fix it myself. Couldn't do it. Brought it there the bmw geniuses that's what they're called. Like the geniuses, they couldn't do it. Damn, yeah, drop it off, we'll fix it. Should take a day. Love that for me. Awesome, go to pick it up the next day. No, it's not ready. We'll let you know.

Alan Lazaros:

We're going on a week and a half. Bmw genius is my ass. I know they're great, great, great people.

Kevin Palmieri:

They're all super nice but you guys didn't fix it. I knew. I told you that it wasn't the problem. You thought it was, so drop it off, cool.

Kevin Palmieri:

I'm already strategizing on how to get money from them. I bought a brand new car. I have a $600 a month car payment. By the time I get this vehicle back, I'm gonna be how I'm gonna have been without it for a month. I'm not gonna pay six hundred dollars for a car I couldn't use. Damn straight. That's not fair, damn straight. Now here's the interesting thing that makes me feel really weird, because I aspire to have the abundance where that doesn't matter, but the discipline, that's it. Hold on, I'm not done yet, but the discipline and the principle to make sure that I am able to optimize as much as possible. If I didn't care at all about money and we didn't have a goal of making and saving and doing what we're doing, do you think I would even that wouldn't even be on my radar Be like, yeah, it sucks, I don't have my car. You know, they gave me a really nice rental, though. It's not the point. That's not the point. The point is this is an opportunity.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, now you're a business owner. I don't mean to interrupt you, sorry. You're a business owner and you know that if we had it's free, I was this close to giving a free call recently, when I was 10 minutes late and I said, listen, I'm gonna have to cash in all those ones that I went over.

Kevin Palmieri:

She's like you're good, I'm not saying to be somebody who is sleazy. I'm not saying to rip people. I'm not saying that, look, if this was a mom and pop place and I knew if they were to do this for me it would put them out of business I wouldn't do that. This is BMW. They're going to be fine. They're going to be just fine. Kick me a thou. We'll call it even. It's not that big of a deal. You guys got to kick me a thou. It's not that big of a deal. I'm not saying to be bad. I'm not saying to be bad. I'm not saying to short change people, to take advantage. I'm not saying that. But what I am saying is I do think so much of what we're taught is well, if you do what you love, if you do what you're passionate about, if you add value in the world, then you'll get paid for that. Yes, yes and yes and yes. If you ask, you gotta ask, and there has to be some strategy. There does Hold on, though.

Alan Lazaros:

Not yes, yes and yes if you ask. Well, go ahead. This is one of the things that I and I'll bring this in. And again, kevin and I I said when we have healthy discords on the show, I think it's of value because we're going to try to find the better. The better mastermind, the better. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Okay, this is something I explain on other shows all the time. I never talk about it on this show. Perfect, for whatever reason. Let's do it.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, I go through the four buckets of life. I'm going to do this very, very briefly. I know this is going to seem like it's not the point. I'll make a point, I promise. Hang with me. The four buckets of life. In my opinion, we all go through all four. Hopefully, you get to the fourth one. It took me 30 fucking years to do it. It took Kev 30 years to do it 32 probably, and I know, but it's true, all right. So the first bucket is you are unsuccessful and unfulfilled. I was a car kid and a bus boy at 15 and a half 16 years old and I hated my life and I was making no money and I just I hated. It was bad, not a good time. Stepdad left Not good. People said best years of your life. I said God, I fucking hope not, because this is terrible. Okay, high school sucked.

Kevin Palmieri:

I hope not. We're at the bottom. There is no lower than this.

Alan Lazaros:

Downhill from here. Oh my God. So that's number one. First bucket unsuccessful unfulfilled. Hello, hello, hello. Nlu listener. Thank you, as always, for listening to Next Level University. Real quick, I just want to jump in and let you know about the Next Level Dreamliner. Real quick, I just want to jump in and let you know about the Next Level Dreamliner.

Alan Lazaros:

This is a journal that I use every single day. Achieve your dreams 90 days at a time. It breaks down your dreams into goals, milestones and daily habits. We hope you enjoy it. The link will be in the show notes.

Alan Lazaros:

Second bucket successful externally, but internally unfulfilled. Kevin and I six figures. I was in corporate. I did preschool, kindergarten, middle school, high school, college, corporate corporate 1% global earner $150,000 in a Vanguard account, investments, stocks, growing boom 84 grand worth of debt, debt-free, paid off in a single year. I'm paraphrasing here. But I was really, really, really successful in a really young age in corporate for tech companies and I was externally successful, but I was drinking too much and too often I wasn't taking care of my health the pyramid that I said earlier on this episode. I wasn't taking care of my health and physical, mental, emotional or spiritual health was not a priority. It was all about finance and fun and I invested a lot in the stock market. Blah, blah blah.

Alan Lazaros:

Externally successful as hell, internally unfulfilled. Car accident 10 years ago, 26 years old Dad died in a car when he was 28. So this was my. I found personal development. This is when I found personal development and I dialed it up to 12. Worked on myself every day. Fitness, fitness model, fitness competitor, fitness coach. Start my own company, alan Lazarus LLC. What you'll never learn in school but desperately need to know. I wanted to bring personal development to the masses, to the school systems. Good luck getting speeches at high schools and colleges with that slogan Went past broke, liquidated all my assets.

Alan Lazaros:

Now I'm happy, healthy, productive, love myself, love my life, in the best physical shape of my entire existence still to this day, unfortunately. But yet I went broke. I went past broke, actually liquidated all my assets, went into a little bit of debt here. So I was externally unsuccessful but I was internally fulfilled as hell, and I know you've been there as well. You talk about the moment in the kitchen with the yeah, with the six figure thing.

Alan Lazaros:

Okay, fourth bucket, this is the one, statistically, I got to be real here. Statistically, almost no one gets to. I would say maybe the top 10% get to this bucket. Maybe 10% of people, and even that I I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the numbers. I got to do a research study at some point. The point is, it's very few people get to this bucket. The fourth bucket is when you are externally successful and internally fulfilled and they feed each other.

Alan Lazaros:

And the reason why this one's so hard to do. I'm talking so hard to do, so don't beat yourself up if you're not there. This is so hard to do. I'm talking so hard to do, so don't beat yourself up if you're not there. This is so hard to do. Here's why what the economy pays for is usually not meaningful work. What the economy pays the most for is not usually deeply meaningful, passionate work. Podcasting if you have a passion for it, is great, but the economy does not statistically pay a lot of money for that. Yes, joe Rogan makes a lot, but the other podcasters don't so. But yet engineers, for example, I didn't like being an engineer, designing circuits in a dark room by myself, but I made a lot of money.

Alan Lazaros:

So what the economy pays the most for is rarely deeply meaningful work. That's why acting and actresses, and and it's so hard to become an a-list actor, because everybody wants to and it's it's very hard to make money in that industry unless you're really really really successful. Okay, the fourth bucket is a mountain that gets higher as you climb it. And if you have gotten there and you are externally successful and internally fulfilled and they feed each other, you are at the mountaintop. Stay humble, keep after it, stay consistent. And now it's all about the next level. Next level, next level success, internal health, wealth, love, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. What was my point of this whole thing? To bring this back to the original point of the episode, which is about money. The reason why the advice of money isn't everything is so bad is because you can't reach that fourth bucket unless you find a way to integrate what is meaningful work with what actually provides income.

Alan Lazaros:

I'm coaching someone right now who does computer science. She's also getting her massage therapy license. She's in full-time school, enrolled for massage therapy, and that's meaningful work for her Reiki, massage therapy, all this stuff. If you're listening what's happening, shout out to you, keep it anonymous. I said are you going to be getting some side work in computer science?

Alan Lazaros:

For the computer scientists out there in the 21st century, the demand is way higher than the supply. There are not enough computer engineers and enough computer scientists, and one of the reasons why is because it blows. It's terrible. You've never programmed a computer, right? No, not by accident. Okay, it's terrible.

Alan Lazaros:

Now, at the end of the day, when work is terrible, usually there's a lack of demand for it, and so there's usually not enough supply and a huge demand. And I kind of screwed that up, because when very few people want to do the thing and everybody needs the thing, people have to pay more to get it done. Like there's a lack of plumbers, there's a lack of, because everyone went to college, stopped going to trade schools, so there's like those people make a lot more money now because there's less of them. Right? Okay, economics, alan. What's the point? You have to be worried about money. If you're not worried about money, you will not be successful. But it isn't the number one most important thing. Your health matters more for sure, because if you are not healthy, you can't do shit with your money.

Kevin Palmieri:

You started that whole thing off Cause you want to disagree with me. Where is the disagreement? What was it that you said?

Alan Lazaros:

Some powerful probably, oh, because you said. You said that, uh, if you're passionate about what you do, that's great, but but unless you ask, you won't make money.

Kevin Palmieri:

What I disagree with is even if you ask, you might not well, you've got to ask if there's no demand, yes, you have to ask, but even then there might. Yes, yeah, there's no, there's no guarantee for sure. But you I think that's what a lot of people are saying is like, yeah, look, we did it. We started a podcast, we added a lot of value and there was no money. And then we were like, okay, how do we turn this into a business? Awesome, let's coach people. Cool, love coaching. Awesome. And that changed and that evolved.

Alan Lazaros:

What didn't you understand about business in the beginning? Because you thought that it would all work out, and now in hindsight I realize that you didn't really know how. I think I thought it would all work out because you said it would. Honestly, what did you think we would do?

Kevin Palmieri:

I had no idea. I told you I thought I was going to be a mindset coach for highly skilled athletes Is what I thought I was going to do. I remember sitting on Matt's porch with him one day saying I think that's what I'm going to do. That was it.

Alan Lazaros:

Now I'm'm podcast coach. When you first started your podcast without me, I wasn't in the picture, yet I wasn't thinking about.

Kevin Palmieri:

It was not. I didn't start it to be successful. I didn't start it to make money. I didn't start it to be my full-time job. I didn't start start for that. You just thought you'd podcast forever. No, just thought I'd podcast I started. That was it. That was it. I fucked up so bad. I did like one episode the first month and then maybe one the second. I was all over the place, man. I just wanted a podcast. I didn't. What would you?

Alan Lazaros:

tell that, kevin, you suck. If you wanted him to be successful, I would say you suck no, seriously, you got it.

Kevin Palmieri:

There's got to be some fucking strategy here. Kid, what are you just gonna? You're just gonna show up and talk into the mic when you want and then, like, maybe occasionally interview people. Like what's then? What? What are we doing? What's the point? Well, I love it. I love awesome. You're gonna love it more if you can do it more, right, yeah, probably. Okay, let's figure out how to do that. Man, if you really want to do it, you might as well do it all the way, if that's, if that's really what you want.

Kevin Palmieri:

But yeah, I didn't start this under the the guise of ah yes, this is a great way to to grow a business. Nope, nope, I started it because I wanted to talk to people and have cool conversations with cool people. That was it. That was it. So I think that's. The truth is, I would have been screwed. I never would have gotten to the place where I I made money. Look, do you know how many people, how many podcasters I talk to that say I literally every time?

Kevin Palmieri:

Based on where you are today and where you aspire to be, what do you believe is the most valuable use of our time together? For free podcast breakthrough session. I want to monetize Good Cool, love that. What have you thought of? What have you thought of? What have you tried? I've never thought of anything before. Okay, cool, then you're, you were gonna die if we didn't have this conversation. Probably your podcast was gonna die because you were gonna run out of money. I don't think it's bad to want money. I don't think it's bad to ask for money. I don't think it's bad to have money on the mind. I think it's great as long as it's constructive. And you know it's not going to fix all your problems.

Alan Lazaros:

When I talked about the Amazon shirt that I bought two episodes ago or whatever, and I spent $27 plus tax and the amount of people that had to contribute to that shirt showing up at my door, I'm for that, do you? Was that uh line of thinking? What was your? What was your thought? Do you think people think in that way?

Kevin Palmieri:

uh, I think to a degree now it's way more obvious because when you order something on doordash you can literally see how it goes from 15 for a sub to 27. It's like, okay, the 15 is going to the restaurant, so that's okay, that's where that's going, this three dollar delivery fee.

Alan Lazaros:

Where the fuck's that? Going back before you were a business owner, what did you think? You just thought that I didn't think, because the when you hear people say, oh, why does that cost so much? It's well, someone has to provide that product or service. Like someone had to build that.

Kevin Palmieri:

I didn't I didn't think of it. I didn't think of it one of the.

Alan Lazaros:

Maybe we do an episode another time because I know we got to jump. But we should do an episode on what is what is money? We don't trade pigs for cows anymore money is. We should really do that. I think we'll do it yeah, I would love to because, if you don't understand, I remember there was this.

Alan Lazaros:

I know we gotta jump. There was this friend of mine back in the day and now I realize okay, I've reflected on this a lot, I've got a good memory oh, you didn't have any idea what money really was. He was saying oh, I should, I'm so sick of this money shit, like I'm just gonna go live in the woods and live off the land. And I remember thinking you're not gonna do that. So you can bitch all you want, but someone has to pave the roads and you live in a house and you you play call of duty like someone has to make that game. What an ignorant person. Right, it's like you. You, literally and, by the way, you smoke weed. You're lazy, like why are you so upset? We?

Kevin Palmieri:

go, you're so lazy.

Alan Lazaros:

You can't be lazy, not contribute to society and then be upset that you don't have money. Like someone has to pave the roads and make the computers and program them and build the iphones and deliver things. I I feel grateful when I get subs at subway. Someone has to order that food and put it together and like people like, oh, subs cost too much. Well, not really, it's kind of awesome actually. I mean, in in the past people would have to go hunt to get food.

Kevin Palmieri:

You don't have to do anything. Well, most people aren't at our door, they're not thinking that far back.

Alan Lazaros:

It's very important this. I read sapiens and the story of the human body and evolutionary psychology and all this stuff. So you look back and go oh, 300 years ago. I mean I'm so grateful for door dash. I mean that's unbelievable, right. Even even I asked emilia's mom what was it like back in the day when you had to go to 17 stores on a Sunday just to get everything you needed. Now it's all in one Walmart, right? So there's two sides to every coin, and I wonder if other people are not everybody. Obviously, some people are thinking about this stuff, but I have been a little bit alarmed at how few people are thinking deeply about this stuff. It's like someone has to work there to get you your electricity.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, there, I think it's easy to just compare what it was, however many years ago to what it is today.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, there's not a lot of data underneath their complaints. That's been interesting for me, for sure.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well, that's, it's always the data's out there. Go searching for it, right, you can find it. You can find it, I could find it. I've been. I've been using chat gpt up a storm lately, learning a ton been learning a ton you've got to. It's the best, all right, what's quick, quick, quick, quick.

Alan Lazaros:

Next level, lesson 10, second think deeply about money, think, think deeply about what money is, what it means to you, why it matters. I mean, oh, you know, I don't care about money. Well then, that means you don't care about your son's college tuition in the future, and I understand it's a logical leap, but it's not really when you really dig Money matters deeply because it's how you provide for your family and build schools and it's really important.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, I would say for 99.99999% of us. Money is. I mean, look, if you somehow know how to live off the land and you're out there doing it, good for you. You're not listening to this podcast, most likely because you're living off the land and this is not of the land, so you're probably not listening. Money is a requirement for life. It's just you got to figure out how to use it and you got to figure out what your relationship is with it, because, if not, you're going to end up getting used by it instead of being able to use it for good.

Alan Lazaros:

Decide to master it. That's what I would end with is decide now, decide in advance. I'm going to master this thing we call money, because your whole future just opened up. If that's the case, 100%.

Kevin Palmieri:

All right, cool, we got to hop. As always, we love you. We appreciate you. Grateful for each and every one of you in NLU. We don't have fans, we have family. We'll talk to you all tomorrow.

Alan Lazaros:

Keep it Next Level, next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros:

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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