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Can You Win Without Feedback? (2102)

• Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Honest feedback, real growth, no shortcuts. In this episode, Kevin and Alan reveal why feedback, humility, and accurate thinking are key to real success. With honest coaching stories and powerful insights, they explore what truly sets high performers apart and why some people stay stuck. Whether you're on your growth journey or just starting, this episode breaks down how to spot if you're ready to level up or just chasing comfort.

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Show notes:
(2:22) Spotting humility in real time
(5:54) Trajectory matters more than results
(11:41) Why accurate thinking changes everything
(14:09) Effort must match the goal
(18:10) Meet your people. Chase your dreams. Level up your life with Next Level Group Coaching. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/group-coaching/
(20:01) The challenge of the hard truth
(23:16) Success takes real, sustained work
(26:44) No shortcuts, only choices
(31:40) Strivers Vs. Arrivers: Which are you?
(33:57) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri:

We just got a new client and she evidently is a very successful lawyer in one of the parts of her life. She's also the founder of a company in another part of her life and now she is a podcaster and I have been on the phone with her Zoom three times and she is world-class at taking feedback. And after our call yesterday I got off and said, one, what a great person to work with. And two, she's gonna win. Because she literally says tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Alan Lazaros:

It's very important to know when you do know what you're talking about and when you don't. And it's even more important to know what other people actually know versus what you think they do, and you cannot take guidance and feedback from someone who has never accomplished the thing you're trying to accomplish.

Kevin Palmieri:

And feedback from someone who has never accomplished the thing you're trying to accomplish. Welcome to Next Level University. I'm your host, kevin Palmieri, and I'm your co-host, alan Lazarus.

Alan Lazaros:

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Kevin Palmieri:

Welcome to Next Level University, next Level Nation today for episode number 2102,. Can you win without feedback? I told Alan right before this I said there are certain people who, as podcasters and has, as clients and people I get the privilege to work with, that I know can win and most likely will win. And there are also right and there are also other on the other end, where there are some people that whether they just don't have the self-belief yet, whether they don't have the self-worth yet, whether they're naive, whatever it is, I just can't give them the amount of feedback that they need yet Now maybe that's how can you tell.

Alan Lazaros:

Isn't that an interesting thing? You can always tell yeah, they're not ready to hear this, they're not open to this Fragility.

Kevin Palmieri:

How fragile is somebody in? Terms of how do you tell? How do you there's tells uh, a lot of. It is just the way they react. Okay, great example this person is on the upper end of financial abundance so they went out and bought. They bought like a two thousand dollar camera. They just went all out. They have so much equipment. I was like you don't need all this equipment, just so you know.

Kevin Palmieri:

But whatever you can you can use it if you want. Good for them, man, and in real time. Something happened with their mic and I was trying to help them fix it and it was just clear the way that I could say no, I'm trust me, I'm certain, it's not that, I'm just, I'm certain. She's like all right, it's not that cool, what's next on the? And it's just. There's other people where you almost let them take the line out. Okay, I'm just gonna let you do your thing. Let you do your thing. When you get tired, you'll say what do you think, kev? This person is not that they, this person is not that they want to optimize their time. They want to get as much done in as little time as possible and they want to be accurate more than they want to feel good. So I think there's a lot of tells with, when you test giving feedback, how somebody responds. That's probably the best answer I have.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, I'm fighting everything in me to not go down a different road than Kevin intended on this episode.

Alan Lazaros:

So we're, going to do a hybrid model here. We're going to do what Kevin wanted and what I wanted, and hopefully it will be a combination of what the listener wants and needs. Let's do it, let's see what happens, we'll see. So you said fragile, how fragile they are, and I thought about a concept called anti-fragile, which apparently so. It's a book by Nassim Taleb and it's this idea that the more you attack someone, the more you attack something, the stronger it gets, and we talked a little bit about that in the last episode is the more you bully someone, they get up, aim higher, work harder, get smarter and they get up stronger and faster each time. They get up better each time, and that is what I recommend for everybody. Like, life is going to throw shit at you feedback, positive and negative. If you get up better every time, in the long run you become something extremely empowered. What else came up for me is and this is kind of where I want to take the episode and we'll hybrid with what Kevin wanted you and I can both tell at this point who will be successful and who won't, and I'm talking about external results. I'm not talking about intrinsic spiritual value. I'm talking about when it comes to whether or not they will get the outcome they actually want. I have a, really I have one client I'm thinking of right now. I said you are winning. Isn't it so awesome to finally be winning at life? Before you were playing short-term games perception, status, this, that survival. Now you're actually winning at life. You used to make so many irrational choices, you used to be so emotional. Now you're. So she's just winning at everything health, wealth and love. She's winning in all three categories and well, technically two but self-love, so three self-love, and it was really cool. I said it's really awesome to see, because back in the day I was so concerned for you. I was so concerned like I'm not trying to be some preachy guy right now, but I can I have a pretty strong understanding of whether or not someone is aligned with their potential and a bright future.

Alan Lazaros:

I've always, whenever I meet someone, I always think about their thinking. What they say, think, do, feel and believe is an indicator of whether or not they're on the path, and the path is a metaphor for somewhere great reaching your own unique potential, growth, impact, profitability, being successful, healthy, wealthy and in love. I can keep going, but that's a gift. I've always honed that and right now Kev's on the path Zero to 10. If 10 is perfect alignment, you're very close to 10. You're the closest to 10 you've ever been, for sure, I'm certain of that.

Alan Lazaros:

So your future right now, your trajectory. I always say trajectory matters more than present results. Why? Because the future is going to be the present soon and I'm always looking at trajectory. I never look at the now. Okay, your birthday Great, you had a great weekend.

Alan Lazaros:

That doesn't mean your future's bright, having a blowout birthday party when I was 26,. We went to Mohegan, we ran amok. If you looked at just my life in that weekend, you would have thought I was on cloud nine best life ever. But that's not true. My trajectory was actually down, not up. I think it was up, but definitely down.

Alan Lazaros:

In some ways, I care about trajectory way more than current results, and so I want to talk to you a little bit about how can we tell? Because if we can tell number one, they might not be ready to hear it. I pulled up a readiness score by Aura and the readiness score tracks your resting heart rate, your heart rate variability, your recovery index, your sleep. The readiness score is a metaphor for hey, I get an 85. It says optimal you are ready for a tough workout, you got great sleep, you're hydrated. Let's rock and roll, let's get after it. In coaching there's a readiness score. There's someone I was on a free session with I'm like, honestly, she's like well, how do I work with you, like how much does it cost? I said, to be completely transparent with you, I'm not even sure I want to work with you. You're already resistant to everything I'm saying.

Alan Lazaros:

She's like no no, no, no, I'm not. No, you are. It's okay. This is a free session. We're good, like we can go our separate ways after this, but I'm not going to try to coach you. This is going to be terrible. You're not open, you're not humble, you're not ready. You you're momming me Like listen, I'm leagues ahead of you in every area and you're still trying to tell me stuff. You're not humble enough to be coached and I'm not interested. I've spent too much of my life coaching people who don't want to be coached. I'm fucking done with that. But how do you know? Like, what are the tells?

Kevin Palmieri:

I don't know if I have a good answer, a fairly high. It's either a fairly high personal development set point or a fairly high humility set point. I think those are probably the two best answers I can give, because you and I have both worked with people that aren't super into self-improvement or personal development. They haven't done a ton of work, but they're very humble, awesome, great. That usually works really well. And then how do you tell humility? You can just tell by the way they respond to what you say. I think I don't know, I don't. I think it's as much a feeling as it is a knowing. I know that's, you know. I think it's as much a feeling as it is a knowing. I know that's, you know. I feel I don't know. There are certain people that I can just tell are super humble.

Alan Lazaros:

Can you give me a hypothetical example? Maybe change the name or give just a first name of someone who you know can't win?

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, they're not humble.

Alan Lazaros:

They probably don't have high work ethic, like I can guess the character traits of this person.

Kevin Palmieri:

it's not even that they know they have high work ethic, that they're relatively humble. They're not interested in hearing the inconvenient truth, they're interested in hearing convenient truths only. And that that's fire, that is. I think that's what it is they want. They want accuracy. Again, I go back to no, no, they don't want accuracy. Sorry, they want certainty, they don't want accuracy. That, what's that book? Uh, shit, morgan Housel, same as ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alan Lazaros:

Same as ever? No, yes, same as ever. Same as ever by Morgan Housel yeah, great book.

Kevin Palmieri:

Could I tell you what it's about? Not really, but it's essentially about thinking more accurately Right here, baby. And there is a quote in that book and it's the best quote I've ever heard in any of the books I've ever listened to or read. Certainty more than they're looking for, accuracy Meaning if I tell you something and it's not true but you believe it's true and it makes you feel some type of way, you'll latch onto that, even if it's not real.

Alan Lazaros:

Okay, I usually go into the car metaphor self-driving car metaphor.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to Okay, because our listeners have heard that a thousand times. Okay, if you're a new listener, I apologize in advance. I'm not going to share it again. What is your way to explain? I am obsessed with accurate thinking. If my mental map does not match reality, I know I can't make good choices. It's like thinking the bishop can do what the rook does in chess. You can't win the game. You can't win the game if you don't understand the rules. Explain why accurate thinking matters so much, because you are someone who I think didn't understand a lot and I know people think I pick on you. I'm not trying to be mean, I just you didn't understand how the game worked fully. And now you understand way better not fully, but way better and now I think you're going to be way more successful. And it's very clear now in hindsight that you couldn't have been successful without learning how it all worked. Is that obvious?

Kevin Palmieri:

Right, not only podcasting, but Not to the degree. No, I mean to some degree, but not to the degree I desired for sure.

Alan Lazaros:

Okay, right, how do you explain why accurate thinking matters so much? Because I think that's the main reason people are not successful they just don't think accurately. The scientific method can't work if you're wrong about everything.

Kevin Palmieri:

Because there are things out there that have relatively concrete answers and if you don't have the relatively concrete answers, you can't be successful in it. There are certain ways. What's an example of that? Getting in shape Perfect. Certain ways. What's an example of that? Getting in shape perfect? There are certain. There are certain physiological fundamentals that are what they are. It requires progressive overload to build muscle. Calories in versus calories out matters way more than most people want to admit. Is it everything? No, is it?

Alan Lazaros:

a giant portion of it, for sure.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yes, yeah, 100 yes we can't say 80 and then 100, yeah, 80, but there are. There are certain things that are concrete. You're not going to be successful at business if you don't do it consistently. That is factual. Yeah, or at least let's make this factual. You will be less consistent. You will be less successful if you are less consistent. That is factual. It's just an input versus an output thing. That's why I love math. It makes sense. Math is mathematically.

Alan Lazaros:

I can show someone the math. Remember when I did this with you?

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah.

Alan Lazaros:

You put a dollar in a bank account for a certain number of years, it comes to a certain amount. If you put it in for 50 years, $1, grow it by 0.1% For 50 years you can do this. It grows to $84 million. I round it up $84 million If you take weekends off.

Kevin Palmieri:

I showed Kev it's so insane you can't even. I could not even fathom the guess. Like well, $84.

Alan Lazaros:

I think it was really. I think it was 470,000 or something. I can do it, it was drastically less than I expected. Yeah, it's not even close, just for weekends off.

Kevin Palmieri:

Because if we talk about what really matters when it comes to accomplishing, it's accurate expectations, accurate approach, accurate time perspective. All that is is awareness. It's accuracy Not. I feel like if I do it once a week, that'll be enough. It might feel good and it might be fulfilling and you might enjoy that, but that might not be enough. Exercising once a week is a great place to start, but it's most likely not going to get you the body of your dreams.

Alan Lazaros:

No, it definitely won't, brother, it definitely won't.

Kevin Palmieri:

Unless the body of your dreams is not super high. That's where things get wonky.

Alan Lazaros:

Brother once a week. It's not going to get me. You're shitting on me for a half hour a day, every day.

Kevin Palmieri:

You want to live until you're 120 and you want to be the most aesthetic natural physique who has ever lived, You've got to exercise 14 times a week, never mind seven.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, yeah.

Kevin Palmieri:

Fair, is that why?

Alan Lazaros:

you're harder on me Because of the goal. That's it 100%. Is that simple? Yeah, my goal's not as high as yours. Well what if I said I want a mediocre physique? Would you be proud of me?

Kevin Palmieri:

I'd say take every other day off, you're good.

Alan Lazaros:

You're on nice, everything's based on the goal. Yeah, that's hilarious.

Kevin Palmieri:

Well it's, doesn't it have to be? I guess I feel like it has to be, yeah, but there are some things that just have actual answers. That's, it's that I can I challenge that?

Alan Lazaros:

everything does, everything does. I know, you just don't know the answer that.

Kevin Palmieri:

So there are some things that are like well researched answers yeah, like the world is not flat, despite what people think.

Alan Lazaros:

Yes, there are certain people that still think that, which is mind-blowing to me.

Kevin Palmieri:

We have lots of proof, yeah, lots of. We have a lot of proof.

Alan Lazaros:

Lots of uh. Water is h2o. Gravity is 9.8 meters per second, squared right. So there's certain truths that are just true. And when did they invent gravity? What?

Kevin Palmieri:

year, was it, I think?

Alan Lazaros:

I believe it was circa 1973. Yeah, a man by Newton Isaac Gerard Gravitae. Yeah, he invented gravity.

Kevin Palmieri:

And then before that, what happened? Did people just float it around and shit Mostly yeah Cool, Mostly just floated around, but they were certain about it so that's good. Look, this is a dangerous game. So that's good. Look, this is a dangerous game. It's a dangerous game to just seek certainty, because certainty can be found in misleading things, and it is all the time.

Alan Lazaros:

Banjo, minnow baby Banjo.

Kevin Palmieri:

Minnow the microwave bag where you can get crispy bacon. Didn't work.

Alan Lazaros:

What else the Wonder Mop? No, I think the Wonder Mop actually worked pretty well.

Kevin Palmieri:

Oh, did it work? Yeah, I think it actually worked pretty well. I think the wonder mop actually worked pretty well.

Alan Lazaros:

I think it actually worked pretty well do you when I say things that are too good to be true are usually too good to be true. Do you agree with that? I do.

Kevin Palmieri:

If it sounds too good to be true, it is yes, and we're trying to build a business where that is true. So I'm when I say to somebody, this is it, this is what you get, this is how much it costs. I want it to sound too good to be true, and then I want it to be so good, so I would say so, everyone but us. I would say more often, more often than than not. Yeah, like by 95 of the time.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah I think that maturing in life is the stripping away of almost all naivete. You just when, when you're young, you, you're so naive. I was so naive, I didn't mean to be, I just didn't get it right. And I don't think I was any more naive than other kids, definitely not. But it's important that I say that, at the end of the day, this woman that you're referring to, the client that you know will be, she has a high statistical probability of success, right Zero to 10. In podcasting, yeah, yeah.

Kevin Palmieri:

You've been coaching. How many in podcasting? Yeah, yeah, you've been coaching. How many podcasts?

Alan Lazaros:

have you coached I don't know. 500, okay, of the 500, where would you put her top one percent one?

Kevin Palmieri:

percent, top one percent. Okay, give me three reasons why she's already successful. So she already has so many of the success fundamentals. That's one. She just takes action. You tell her to order something. She does it right. Then and she says, okay, well, I'll set up a call when it comes in. Awesome that. And she knows what she doesn't know and she's humble enough to take feedback on what she doesn't know. And she's open to constructive feedback. Those are the three Fire, next level, nation feedback. Those are the three 90 days.

Kevin Palmieri:

So if you're hearing this, go to the website nextleveluniversecom and we have the landing page where you can actually hold your spot right now. Even if there's a group going on right now, you can still lock your spot for the next one. The biggest thing that we've seen is, as we get closer and closer to the date, unfortunately, some people end up missing. The group fills up and they can't do it, and then they end up regretting that. So please head over to the website. The link will be in the show notes and we would love to see you there. What's the point in hiring a coach if you don't let them tell you the fucking truth?

Alan Lazaros:

What's the?

Kevin Palmieri:

point. It's like hiring a chef and then saying like, honestly though, you know, I got tuna little paprika yeah, no, we don't know paprika here? Well, it's, it's in the recipe, not here, it ain't okay. Well, uh, what are your thoughts on chicken? No, no, we're not gonna do that either. Well, you're really handcuffing me here. What do you want me to make you a fucking hot pocket? What are we doing? What do you? What do you want?

Alan Lazaros:

well, this is the challenge, and this is the challenge and I've been working on this since I started becoming a coach which is how do I gain permission to share the hard truth with someone? Yeah, there are certain things that I've come at you with, for lack of better phrasing, that I had to wait years for.

Kevin Palmieri:

Did you actually have to or do you think you had to?

Alan Lazaros:

I think I had to. How much earlier could I have shared what I've shared with you? I don't know, dude, I don't know, did I?

Kevin Palmieri:

overcook the Turkey? Did I undercook it? If you do it in the right way, I think it always has to be attached to the goals, kev. If you do you really want what you say you want, yes, then this is something I need to tell you. That's really gonna suck. Do you want to hear it? Yes or no? Yeah, now that you frame it that way, let's, let's wait a couple years, thanks, yeah I think that's the best.

Alan Lazaros:

Actually say that, though. No, that's the problem.

Kevin Palmieri:

No one wants to say that no, I would say I would probably ask for context, like give me, can you give me context, like what does it involve? And then maybe, depending on that, one of the hardest conversations up. Good, I was just gonna say I think you have to let the person admit that they want the feedback or admit that they don't. And again, as somebody who is giving feedback, I think it's better to undercook it, lead light, and then you can get heavier as you go. If you lead heavy, you can't, it's already out there. You can't take feedback back like wait. If you lead heavy, you can't, it's already out there. You can't take feedback back Like wait. Did I say oh no, I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. Did I say that?

Alan Lazaros:

to you. I meant to send that to somebody else. I said it with utter surety, but I didn't no, I never said that.

Alan Lazaros:

No, I never said that, I but so I have a client who has been working with me for a while and she said can you just tell me what you really think she's like? Just tell me what you really think. I said are you in a good state? Like, how are you feeling? Are you okay? She's like I'm great. Just fucking give it to me. Listen, there's implications. You can't just do that. This is the client that said to me years ago. She said, alan, I want you to be as hard on me as you are on yourself. And emilia knows this person and I told emilia that and she's emilia immediately turned to me and said she would die.

Alan Lazaros:

Well, it's your job to know that but, dude, it's so hard to know where that fucking line is, man, and you end up under and I end up over. Real quick, I'll share this conversation. We got 12 minutes, one of the hardest conversations I've ever had in coaching. I kid you not, brother, if the person is listening. You know I care deeply about you. I'm a huge fan. I want to see you win. That's actually why I had this conversation with you. Okay, if you're not listening, then we're good, but even if you are, I would say this to you If you're not listening, then we're good, but even if you are, I would say this to you I pulled up our trajectory in business because they have a company that is very similar to ours.

Alan Lazaros:

It's trying to help people reach their potential. Okay, and I know what it's taken for you and I to get where we are. I know pretty intimately what it's taken of you and of me and of our team and of everything. And at this stage, this client of mine had never I think they had $500 a month coming in 500 euros a month in their entire business and I pulled up our trajectory, which is significantly more than that right Well over a million dollars grossed even at this stage in our business. So we have grossed over a million dollars in our business and it's you know we. We started with small numbers and they grew. Okay, now, remember, this is gross revenue, this is before expenses, this is, this is total in.

Alan Lazaros:

And I pulled up our trajectory and I said, if I'm going to coach you on how to be successful, I have to help you do what we've done, or at least some unique flavor of it. When it comes to the fundamentals, you can make it unique to you with your brand and your goals and you and your business partner. But, at the end of the day, this has you have any idea what this has required of Kevin and I. And she said and I kid you not, she said, alan, to be quite honest, I'd be disappointed with your trajectory. I'm not kidding Kev. I was like, oh, you have, you have not, you're not even I'm'm. I'm a hundred times more successful than you and you'd be disappointed with my results. And she said, alan, you trade your time for money. I'm not interested in that. And I said, okay, and in my head this is. I didn't say to her, but I said in my head you're 27, what do you mean? Everyone trades time for money. Is there anyone out there watching or listening who doesn't trade their time for money?

Alan Lazaros:

that's not a thing, not well, you know so it's the owner of amazon makes money by working, yeah well, it's just so I understand what she meant passive income.

Alan Lazaros:

Yeah, the passive income, yeah, yeah, the. But passive income isn't passive. You have to build something and then sustain it and maintain it and manage it and then lead the people that do manage it. I want a self-managing company. There's no such thing. I have a client, uh, who is on the board of directors. He still has to direct. That's like buying a home and then not taking care of it at all. Okay, well, I hire people to take care of it. Okay, well, who takes care of the people who hire? Who pays the? Who pays the invoices? Who, like you're gonna have to do something. You do more than that.

Alan Lazaros:

So at the end of the day, no worries, I don't coach this person anymore. But I remember thinking to myself I think I'm just gonna call it, I'm gonna call it, I'm not gonna do this anymore. I'm not going to do this anymore, I'm not interested. And I told her. I said listen, I'm a business coach. I can't help you if you're disappointed. You'd be disappointed with our results when you're not even close, like you got to go find someone else because I can't help you. Win if you don't want to work and I'm going to say this to all of our listeners. If you're not willing to work, I cannot help you win. There is no such thing as success without work. There's no such thing. That's a fucking lie. It's a lie, and I I'm sick and tired of that dude, I can't even.

Kevin Palmieri:

So we we had a potential client one time. He has 10 clients. They pay him $10,000 a month. So he makes a hundred thousand dollars a month, 1.2 million dollars a year just from that. He has other stuff too and he's like so how fast can I get to a hundred thousand? Listens like first couple months? I said I do, depends on how much you want to work. He's like well, you know, you can like pay to be in forbes and that type of shit. I said I don't do that shit. So if that's what you're looking for, you're looking for somebody to pay to play. I ain't the guy and I never heard from him again.

Alan Lazaros:

That was the last time I ever heard from him.

Kevin Palmieri:

And now you're now you're understanding why kevin and I have to work, so hard he, he gave us, he gave us a thousand dollars signed up and then never. I can't get over the end. I can't get all of them, them. That was the end. I can't get ahold of them.

Alan Lazaros:

You know. I just want to share this too, and I've been much more honest now about certain things with the listeners and on other podcasts. And I say this to people because people always say where can people find you? And I say listen. I just want to be very honest with you.

Alan Lazaros:

Kevin and I are strivers. We're not arrivers. We don't talk from some mountaintop of we've already arrived and we know everything. Like if you want next level university, you're going to be on a growth train with us. We're not gonna. Yeah, we'll have insights that we've learned from the past, but we're not done. This is not. You're not coming here for some guru. I don't have all the answers. What I do know is that striving we're strivers, and I say this. I say, if you have high humility and high work ethic and you have a sincere interest to achieve real success in the real world with real people, you're going to love Kev, you're going to love NLU, you're going to love me, and I say this too. This is the next thing I say if you want big rewards for minimal effort, do not reach out under any circumstances. It's going to waste your time and mine. Big rewards for minimal effort is not how I play. It's not real, it's not. Yeah, it's not real, it's not real.

Alan Lazaros:

And these people have generational wealth or trust funds or they inherited their money. There's a lot of inheritance People don't. I've come to understand. I coach someone at Mass Mutual. He's high up the amount of inheritance. I don't know if people are thinking about this. You have no idea how much inheritance comes from generational wealth. There's so much. If I were to look at what percentage of wealth is from inheritance, dude, it's a huge amount. I mean, you can look it up. It's probably 50 plus percent of all wealth is inherited wealth. So when you see a 23-year-old with a Porsche, like that's, they didn't build that, they didn't. That's not a thing.

Alan Lazaros:

Emilia has a client who's in their early 20s with a Porsche. She isn't wealthy, she has no money. Her dad bought that for her and that's okay. Whatever Do you, but this misunderstanding of success is hurting us. It's hurting people. You and I didn't have generational wealth, dude. We had to build it ourselves. For sure. Emilia and Taryn took a bet on us Big bet, you know. Big bet, yeah, and you know. I love that about us. I want to earn this. I don't want something given to me. What are we doing here? I don't want something given to me. What are we doing here?

Kevin Palmieri:

I don't mind it you know, not a fan man, I don't ask for it. I don't ask for and I don't rely on it. It wouldn't stop me from working. But if somebody sent me you know, wired me a check for 100 mil, it'd be like that's pretty cool. I wouldn't take it, I know I wouldn't tell you there would be. There would be signs. Hey man, where'd you get that?

Alan Lazaros:

yeah, there'd be signs. Don hey man, where'd you get that? Yeah, there'd be signs.

Kevin Palmieri:

Yeah, it'd be a couple ATVs Don't even worry about it. Somebody I was on their podcast and again, I don't recommend doing this. Even I didn't even want to do it, but I did it. There was a back and forth. I checked in how you doing Long time no talk and he said it. I love it. How much do you want, dude?

Alan Lazaros:

I love when you get that question how much?

Kevin Palmieri:

do you want? I love it. I said, yeah, it feels like you're putting on a persona that comes from a place of insecurity.

Alan Lazaros:

I would just suggest that you Do I know this person?

Kevin Palmieri:

Yes, I would just suggest to you that you lose the safety net. And it would make for a more organic conversation.

Alan Lazaros:

Sweetheart too, make for a more organic conversation. Sweetheart too sweetheart. It's on such a show great person too much.

Kevin Palmieri:

Great person, great person. And they responded. I think it said wow, thank you, and it was like I don't think that was a good.

Alan Lazaros:

Wow, she's not. She's not ready, but I've. She's asked me for feedback, but that was my.

Kevin Palmieri:

That was a test for myself of you know what I'm gonna give maybe a little bit more than I would normally and I want to see what happens. Because if me saying you're amazing and you don't need to change anything is not going to help you, it's not going to help anybody. I'm not. I'm maybe I'm quote unquote amazing at stuff. It doesn't matter. There's still a lot of work to do.

Kevin Palmieri:

I'm in the best shape I've been in a long time. I got a long ways to go. I'm the best speaker I've ever been. I got a long ways to all that stuff. I'm the most consistent. I've been good for you. Fucking get better. Awesome, love that. And I wanted to give some level of construction. Did I give too much? Maybe we'll see. We'll see in time. But that's a gentle, maybe a gentle truth that nobody else is going to see. Maybe that nobody else is going to give. And that's the conversation of responsibility versus choice. And you feel like it's your responsibility to give the people around you feedback. Do you feel like it's a choice? Can you avoid it? That's a deeper conversation for a different day. All right, what's your next level lesson before we go?

Alan Lazaros:

My next level lesson is that success it is I don't know if sneaky is the right word when you meet someone who is of success in a certain area health, wealth or love, or all three. Very rarely do you see all three. But try to understand. Taking advice about how to do something from someone who hasn't done, it is insanity. How to do something from someone who hasn't done? It is insanity. There's no.

Alan Lazaros:

You have to take advice from someone who has actually done it and not someone who cheated their way or lied or stole or sold their soul. I'm talking someone who actually fundamentally, in the real world, created something. You can take their advice and you can take it to heart and you can use it and you can implement it and you can make it your own. Be a great student, but don't be a follower. A follower is someone and this is what I was guilty of. I asked everybody everything. I wanted to learn from everyone and I did. I took bad advice because I was asking people who I never should have asked, because they had no clue. They were lost, like a lot of people. So, at the end of the day, just make sure the feedback that you're getting is accurate.

Kevin Palmieri:

Mine would be. Oftentimes probably more often than not, the truth is inconvenient, and the more you're willing to look at the inconvenient truth, the better off you're going to be, because that is lack of awareness. That is the blind spots. That's the growth opportunity. Now, I'm not saying it's easy, I'm not saying it's fun. It does suck and it also sets you up for an opportunity to get better feedback forever. And I think it's. I think it's worth it in the long run. Cool, all right. If you're looking for a group of amazing humans who are on this weird ass growth journey as well and they're focused on personal development and evolution and all that stuff, we have a private Facebook group called Next Level Nation. We would love to have you there.

Alan Lazaros:

We just started a new book called Willpower Nice by Roy Baumeister and John Tierney. This book is fucking awesome, great book. I was listening to it earlier. It is just amazing. So please join us. It's more accountability, next Level Books with Next Level People. We meet every Saturday, 1230 pm, eastern Standard Time. This book will change your life. This book will increase your chances of success. I promise you Health, wealth and love, and we are there in book club. Do not come to book club unless you want to reach your potential, because I open every book club the same these days, which is hey, we are not here for fun. If we have fun, that's great. I don't really care if we do or don't, but you better leave here better. It's all I care about.

Kevin Palmieri:

No Harry Potter.

Alan Lazaros:

We're here to reach our potential. No, harry Potter. I am a huge fan of Harry Potter the films more than the books but no, we're here to reach our potential baby. If we're going to R&R, that's later, not in book club. We're not here to R&R. We're here to think differently and to reach our potential.

Kevin Palmieri:

Respect that is how you get to the next level. As always, we love you, we appreciate you, grateful for each and every one of you, and at NLU we don't have fans, we have family. We'll talk to you all tomorrow. Keep it next. Next.

Alan Lazaros:

Level Next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros:

We mean it when we say family. If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri:

Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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