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Trajectory Matters More Than Current Position (2175)
Is your life headed in the right direction, or are you too focused on where you stand today? In this episode, Kevin and Alan share why your trajectory matters far more than your current position. From turning $13K years into $100K months to lessons about discipline, emotions, and the power of consistent choices, they reveal how small daily actions shape your long-term success. Whether you’re building wealth, health, or stronger relationships, this episode will remind you that the future belongs to those who invest in it today. Tune in now and start creating the upward path your future deserves.
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Show notes:
(2:00) The ice cube effect of slow change
(5:15) From $13K years to $100K months
(9:20) Pay now or play later
(16:12) Meet your people. Chase your dreams. Level up your life with Next Level Group Coaching. https://www.nextleveluniverse.com/group-coaching/
(18:23) Signs your trajectory is declining
(25:04) Investor Vs. Consumer mindset
(29:06) Designing your environment for success
(31:08) Outro
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Kevin Palmieri
(0:00) What you're going through right now doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. (0:05) The position you're headed toward matters much more is something that if you told me six years ago I would punch you in the throat.
Alan Lazaros
(0:14) Do you want time to be your friend or do you want time to be your enemy? (0:18) All of us have a choice and we make that choice every single day. (0:22) Welcome to Next Level University.
Kevin Palmieri
(0:25) I'm your host Kevin Palmieri and I'm your co-host Alan Lazarus. (0:29) At NLU we believe in a heart-driven but no bs approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.
Alan Lazaros
(0:36) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.
Kevin Palmieri
(0:42) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.
Alan Lazaros
(0:58) Self-improvement in your pocket every day from anywhere completely free. (1:05) Welcome to Next Level University.
Kevin Palmieri
(1:10) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2175. (1:16) Trajectory matters more than current position. (1:19) Facts.(1:20) Facts. (1:21) And it goes both ways. (1:23) And I've said this many times on other podcasts.(1:25) Alan and I have talked about it so many times behind the scenes. (1:28) I always say or I've always said as we get closer and closer and closer to 40 (1:35) things are going to be obvious in which direction people are moving towards because the people who (1:42) are getting better they've been working on this trajectory for years and years and years and years (1:45) and years and the people who have just been letting it ride their trajectory they don't (1:50) know that it's going down but it has been going down for years it's just not noticeable yet.
Alan Lazaros
(1:55) Mm-hmm.
Kevin Palmieri
(1:56) Best example of this. (1:57) Best analogy example. (2:00) Take an ice cube.(2:02) Put it on the table. (2:03) It's 32 degrees in that room. (2:06) Then it goes to 32.1 and then it goes to 32.2 and then 32 and then eventually it's 33. (2:11) At what point does the ice cube actually start melting where you can visibly see it? (2:17) Not immediately. (2:18) It takes time.(2:19) But by then it's already too late and the room's going to be too hot and it's going to start to melt and it's going to be past the point of no return. (2:26) On the opposite end you put an ice cube or you put a cup of water and it starts at 33 degrees and then it goes down and down and down and down. (2:35) It does not happen immediately.(2:36) It takes time and I think that is what we're talking about today from a place of trajectory. (2:41) Definition sir of trajectory.
Alan Lazaros
(2:46) All right. (2:46) Picture a graph. (2:49) Y-axis is results.
Kevin Palmieri
(2:53) What? (2:54) Every time just... (2:56) X-axis and Y-axis.(2:58) I don't know what you're saying. (3:00) Really? (3:01) I don't...(3:01) I'm not a math guy.
Alan Lazaros
(3:04) X and Y-axis. (3:05) Okay. (3:05) Horizontal axis is X.(3:08) Nice. (3:09) Vertical axis is Y.
Kevin Palmieri
(3:11) Okay.
Alan Lazaros
(3:12) Rise over run baby. (3:14) The slope.
Kevin Palmieri
(3:15) I remember hearing that. (3:16) You remember rise over run? (3:18) I remember it but if you said explain it to me I wouldn't be able to.(3:23) Okay. (3:24) Can I give you an actual definition? (3:27) Sure man.(3:28) Because I think that's what people need. (3:30) The path followed by a projectile flying or an object moving under the action of given forces. (3:35) That's really bad.
Alan Lazaros
(3:38) That's dog shit.
Kevin Palmieri
(3:40) Hold on. (3:41) The overall path direction or course a person's life takes encompassing the sequence of experiences transitions and events that shape their journey from past to future.
Alan Lazaros
(3:51) Nice. (3:52) Pretty far. (3:53) The simplest form is is your future going to be better than the present or worse?(3:58) That's the simplest possible form. (4:00) But I'm going to do the graph because I got to. (4:02) All right.(4:06) The vertical axis is results and quality of life and income and health wealth and love. (4:17) Cool. (4:18) The x-axis is time.(4:21) If the graph is starts at the bottom left when you're born you don't have any results you don't have any health you don't have any wealth and any love and then you make choices that are either constructive or destructive and then those choices make the graph go up into the right. (4:38) I used to have a mentor he said up into the right baby (4:40) all good up into the right all good up into the right it's like dude yeah but at what growth rate (4:46) and then you can grow the growth which is acceleration and all that kind of stuff but (4:51) ultimately is your future brighter than your past that's what the trajectory means (4:54) and everyone picture a line that's curved up into the right over time and picture a little (5:06) dot going along that line that's your life so the now is the little dot that goes along that line (5:15) so eight years ago we started this podcast and the first year we had a little bit over a thousand (5:19) listens and now we've had days where we've gotten three times that in one day so what took us an (5:26) entire year for results we have now gotten in one day okay another example the first year in (5:36) business you and i made zero dollars the second year in business we made thirteen thousand dollars (5:41) split between the two of us not great we were both living in massachusetts at the time the cost (5:47) of living is a lot more than that i promise you and last month so that was the first two years (5:53) the first two years in business kevin and i made a total of thirteen thousand dollars (5:57) total we made over a hundred thousand last month what's a hundred divided by 13 let me check (6:06) oh boy all right seven seven point six fuck yeah (6:16) that means we made eight times more in one month than the entire first two years in business (6:23) that's because our trajectory i don't care at all about current position i care about trajectory (6:28) current position is a byproduct of trajectory so what about eight years from now it's hard (6:36) to imagine it's not that hard to imagine if you if you graph it i know but that's so talk to me (6:43) about that if i said okay kev yeah we only made 13 grand in the last two years man you're like (6:49) hey alan i know my car needs to be fixed and i can't afford it no no but don't worry brother (6:56) in six more years we're gonna make a hundred grand in a single month we're gonna be fine (7:00) everything's gonna be fine that's exactly what i said to you pretty much yeah no okay what did
Kevin Palmieri
(7:05) you think you just were like okay no i was like dude i i need something now i have a structured (7:13) settlement and i need cash now call jg wentworth i need it now baby give me something i need (7:20) something i always felt very unseen in that because for you it it didn't matter like when (7:25) alan says that that now does not matter it does not matter to him at all in the best way for me (7:31) it was like dude give me a little can we take something from six years from now and bring it (7:35) to me now because i'm gonna die out here the answer is no no no you actually hold on you actually okay
Alan Lazaros
(7:41) i have a story that i think will land okay emily and i you call it riding the lightning yes emily (7:47) and i found a show that we absolutely adored it's a detective eric banna it's called untamed (7:52) have you heard of said show i believe i've heard of it i have not seen it it's on netflix it's (7:58) awesome it was great loved it it's from they filmed it at yosemite which is apparently the (8:05) size of rhode island it's a whole thing awesome show there's six episodes and they're long (8:10) emily and i very rarely ride the lightning dude we were like fuck it this is a couple weeks ago (8:18) we stayed up till like 3 30 a.m we could not put this fucking show down love it brother between (8:25) you and me huge fucking mistake huge mistake we never do shit like that and by the way we (8:31) shouldn't we run three businesses between two of us that's a good way to go out of business (8:36) we paid for that for weeks you can't get terrible sleep and have a good life (8:44) that's a mathematical scientific fact was this on a saturday or yeah oh this is midweek baby (8:50) this is you did this to me you did this midway hey bad oh my god you see what i'm saying bad (8:55) now here's the deal that is very rare for a reason we we paid for that you either play now and pay (9:03) later which is what we did or you pay now and play later today i have 13 back-to-backs uh 12 (9:10) because we're only gonna get one done brother 12 i don't feel great i'm exhausted but it doesn't (9:20) matter it's irrelevant the trajectory requires me to do it and when you push through that every (9:26) single day you get really really really competent and really capable and the compound effect the (9:32) trajectory if i invest my time and effort into getting better today my trajectory will be better (9:39) and my future will be better if i were to go straight up hypothetical universe i just say (9:44) fuck it kev let's me and you man let's let's let's rock out let's go to the bar i know i (9:49) haven't drank in six years but let's fucking let's go you and me it's ride the lady you know (9:52) just rip some shots let's go that would be awful it would be fun in the moment but it would be (9:58) detrimental to all of our goals and dreams i don't not drink because it wasn't fun (10:03) brother i i used to drink before i had fitness goals drinking is terrible for your fitness goals (10:10) for sure terrible probably the worst thing though no there's some hard drugs that are (10:15) well no i mean like yeah it's bad the the worst uh of the legal things you can do it yeah (10:20) acceptable things right yeah but brother i remember i stopped drinking because my goals (10:27) required me to i said this on a podcast earlier when you set a goal you have to be subservient (10:33) to that goal have to when you do a bodybuilding show you either lose the show or you are subservient
Kevin Palmieri
(10:39) to the goal and sometimes you do you are subservient to the goal and you still lose the
Alan Lazaros
(10:43) show that's actually that happened to me twice right that happened three times that happened (10:47) two times yeah i wasn't quite so subservient but i still was i still was but the truth is (10:54) that's why i lost that's actually a good example i was not subservient to the goal (10:59) as much as my other goals and i lost and when i was subservient to the goal i won the whole show (11:05) and the overall i'm telling you man i was in a dark place that was a tough fucking i pulled my (11:11) shirt up once with kev that we were in the bathroom and i was like hey man check this (11:15) out you're like jesus christ it was just eight pack i said you're good yeah you're good to go
Kevin Palmieri
(11:20) you're gonna be you're gonna be fine yeah yeah that's some another bodybuilding show all right (11:24) i want to go how do you feel the other times i told you you're gonna lose and you lost every (11:28) time i told you you're gonna lose you lost every time i told you you're gonna win you won okay i (11:32) want to go micro how do we get through because here this is the hard thing this is a principle (11:39) and once you understand the principle i think it's way easier to invest in behaviors that will (11:44) pay off eventually but there is a lag between when you start something and when you get any (11:49) level of results how do we know we're on the right trajectory when a lot uh emotionally (11:57) everything is screaming the opposite because it feels like we're stuck and we're not making any (12:02) progress you have to do logic over emotion have to which is what did i send you the ray dalio clip
Alan Lazaros
(12:09) you did send me the ray dalio clip yes ray dalio said i am friends with the most some of the most (12:14) successful people in the world and none of them feel successful and then he unpacks why (12:21) you are more successful than you've ever been but you don't feel successful (12:24) that is you do on the macro not today though today has been no i do today it's weird i'm
Kevin Palmieri
(12:30) weird with this i think i'm an outlier in this but you was today easy no but i feel successful (12:37) okay yeah all right but how do you feel physically right now i slept in so i feel okay today i'm (12:44) on the upswing i've been fucking going through it if you asked me a couple days ago i would have (12:48) told you it was terrible okay it was yesterday you're like dude it's been horrible yeah that's (12:52) because you were talking about last week yeah that and you and i had a coaching call today (12:55) and it was i just sometimes i just need a little i just need a little tweak and just give tighten a (13:00) couple screws loosen a couple screws realign some stuff i'm good back to back to basics nice yeah
Alan Lazaros
(13:05) how do i you gotta explain it then because i gotta stop using you in his example too honestly
Kevin Palmieri
(13:11) yeah it's not too weird it's i am a strange annoying i'm a strange bird you have to know (13:19) okay the reason you got stuck in the first place is most likely because you did the things (13:24) emotionally not logically and you didn't feel like you were going in the wrong direction (13:30) that's why this is so hard maybe you got pings of i probably shouldn't do this i probably shouldn't
Alan Lazaros
(13:36) do that go ahead you had something okay you take this and explain it if you wake up in the morning (13:47) and your goal is to feel good you're almost always not going to do the things that are best for your (13:52) future everything that's best for your future does not feel good i mean unless you get workouts (13:57) don't feel good stairmaster doesn't feel good no 12 back-to-backs does not feel good looking reading (14:03) a tough book realizing how inadequate you are does not feel good therapy doesn't feel good (14:07) yeah therapy is terrible yeah it's not good it doesn't feel good at all (14:13) everything that's it if you make your decisions based on emotions (14:18) you're always going to make the worst choice that you should not make listen i don't think anyone (14:26) should ever make their decisions based on emotions i think you should make your decision i think (14:30) emotions are signals trying to tell you something but they aren't you can't i say brain with business (14:39) intuition with people emotions you got to be careful it's fair emotions feel great right now (14:45) if emotionally i want to eat food right now i want to go eat and relax emotionally i think emotions
Kevin Palmieri
(14:54) are probably the best like the best influencers in the world because they they make you think (15:01) it's like you it just helps you it helps is not necessarily accurate in this but it helps you (15:05) align the puzzle pieces to get to comfort and comfort is not good in this analogy it it emotions (15:13) make you tap out long before you should logic makes you know that you know you're supposed to (15:18) stay longer than you feel comfortable and the longer you stay in something now again yes there (15:23) are very specific things that you shouldn't stay in yes but for the sake of this conversation (15:29) if you listen to your emotions every time well it's cold out oh it's raining out uh you know i'm (15:34) a little bit sore i have a little bit of a cough you're definitely not going to get to your (15:38) potential that is for sure for sure and i think on the other end i slept in today instead of going
Alan Lazaros
(15:46) to the gym that was a hard thing for me emotionally that's logic okay nice when should you listen to (15:52) your emotions because i think actually almost never i think it's when the op it's the opposite
Kevin Palmieri
(15:57) of what you want to do that's when i emotionally want to do something i know it's most likely not (16:04) the right thing when i emotionally don't want to do it that's usually when it's the right thing (16:08) for me at least yeah next level nation what is happening if you've thought to yourself i want (16:17) to try coaching but you don't really know where to start group coaching would be a wonderful place (16:23) for you that's really why we created it in the first place we start a new round every 90 days (16:28) so if you're hearing this go to the website nextleveluniverse.com and we have the landing (16:34) page where you can actually hold your spot right now even if there's a group going on right now you (16:38) can still lock your spot for the next one the biggest thing that we've seen is as we get closer (16:43) and closer to the date unfortunately some people end up missing the group fills up and they can't (16:49) do it and then they end up regretting that so please head over to the website the link will be (16:53) in the show notes and we would love to see you there i don't have a better blanket statement i (16:59) mean that's a blanket statement but this is this is the the best example i can use of this when (17:04) when alan and i were in high school he says i was popular i wasn't as popular as he says but (17:09) regardless you're more popular than me that's for sure that's fair there were a lot of people
Alan Lazaros
(17:13) senior year in which case i think that shifted because i was best friends with mark and all that
Kevin Palmieri
(17:18) yeah yeah yeah i didn't i didn't care i've look i wasn't trying to be in the cool squad even though (17:24) i i was but i didn't care i was trying to play the cool kind of cool you know we went to high (17:29) school with people who in high school were super cool when you hear people say they peaked early (17:36) this is what it means it means their trajectory was going up up up up and then after high school (17:42) it started a flat line and then started going down down down down down and now we are seeing (17:47) the results of that trajectory this isn't like an ego joke i'm not i'm not really serious about (17:52) this but i said this i said this behind the scenes one time i said it's so weird to me how (17:56) some of the most popular people in our high school are now trying to sell me multi-level (17:59) marketing shit it's weird for me to experience that and i also predicted that was going to happen (18:06) eight years ago like i knew this was going to happen at some point but that's because they were (18:12) going on vacation every year and they were going out drinking every weekend and they were doing (18:17) this and they were doing this and they were doing this so if you're out there right now best example (18:23) is everybody who's putting a dollar into the bar or a dollar into this or a dollar into that and (18:28) you're putting a dollar into the bank dollar into books dollar into coaching you are creating a (18:33) better trajectory for yourself you might look like a loser people might not get it they might (18:38) understand it you might be lonely but you are doing the behaviors that are going to get you (18:43) success eventually if you had a friend reach out and say hey i feel like i'm not making any progress (18:49) but i know i'm doing all the right things what's the advice you'd give them you probably say you (18:53) gotta give it time brother or you gotta give it time friend same shit for you you gotta give it (18:57) time because negative habits do not pay off immediately neither deposit habits okay i've
Alan Lazaros
(19:02) now come to understand last piece i've come to understand and you've admitted this you came to (19:10) me one time and you said dude i've been doing this for so long i was super it's been fucking (19:15) three months yeah for sure many times okay to me three months is not a long time at all actually (19:24) that's like planting seeds and then three days later being like where's my crops (19:29) it's ridiculous you don't get the crops until next year (19:34) the hundred thousand dollar month had nothing to do with this year it had to do with the previous (19:39) eight years accumulating the trajectory i need you to explain what it's like to work with someone (19:49) who always invests the now and and to become the type of person who does that because your
Kevin Palmieri
(19:55) dreams are coming true oh man i the best example i can give is it's almost like you have to put (20:04) your dreams in a cage and you can never really spend all the time you want with them but you get (20:10) access to them so alan and i have been having conversations about golf i love golf and he's (20:18) like dude i'm afraid you're gonna burn the fucking business down a little bit like you can't be going (20:21) golfing all the time and i was like it's gonna be on downtime it's gonna be r and r
Alan Lazaros
(20:26) i promise i'll walk the line that's the first time emilia rode the lightning in years (20:31) we never do that it's not because we don't want to we loved that that was awesome but but if you
Kevin Palmieri
(20:37) do that regularly you're in so much trouble yeah then then when riding the lightning becomes the (20:41) normal it's not riding the lightning anymore it's detrimental forever it's like well you know i went (20:48) out and we had you know i had a little i drank more than i wanted to but i only drink once a (20:52) year it's like okay well if you're doing that every week that's a fucking issue like that's a problem (20:56) and that's a that's gonna get really depending on your goals depending on your goals no matter what (21:02) if you're going out and getting blackout every week that is a problem agreed and if you don't
Alan Lazaros
(21:06) have goals there's no reason not to that's why i'm the big the world's biggest believer in goals (21:10) because it holds you accountable to the now continue okay so your your goals and dreams are in
Kevin Palmieri
(21:15) and you can get access to them you get to go and you get to open the cage and you get to pet the (21:19) animal occasionally but it's not like it doesn't become an animal that you can spend all the time (21:24) with that you want it's like having a pet dude i love having i love my cats i love them they're (21:30) like my favorite i get to see them for like an hour not an hour 15 minutes throughout the day (21:39) yeah i in between calls i went and snuggled fudge he loves when i hold him i snuggled a (21:43) back to the office as our lifestyle evolves their lives will get better and they'll have more (21:51) things to play with and they'll have more stuff i'm not going to see them anymore though that's (21:57) i feel like that's you're it's not like you're just going to get 100 of your goal because if (22:03) you put all the time that you put into getting your goals into it experiencing your goals you (22:08) lose the goals it's this weird fucking thing you have to keep pouring water onto the seeds that (22:14) fed the goals and if you pour all the water on the goals the plants that brought the goals die (22:19) and it's this really this paradox of maintaining success that's why i think sustaining success (22:25) is harder than getting it because when you have success you want to enjoy it oh but if you enjoy
Alan Lazaros
(22:31) that and you lose it oh that makes a lot more sense i never understood why you said that's (22:37) why people set goals that's why i set goals i don't i do less less than ever but that is why (22:43) yeah that landed so once you have the success you actually don't get to spend time with it (22:48) which makes it that's why a lot of people it makes it worse because you want to it makes (22:53) it harder it's easier to not spend money when you don't have it got it and now when you have it i (22:58) have one client i she said what's my biggest red flag i love it i said when you have money you (23:03) spend it like a fucking idiot with love and she's i mean you know she understands and again i probably (23:08) was kinder than that but it was like i looked in my brain and i said when you have money you find (23:13) ways to spend it that's very unintelligent so that's a really good example of that trajectory
Kevin Palmieri
(23:18) is not positive if you make if the only reason you want to make a hundred thousand dollars so (23:24) you can spend a hundred and two thousand that is a negative trajectory forever and that problem
Alan Lazaros
(23:28) will never go away nice yeah you don't make more money to spend more money i think many people do (23:34) because we see people on social is this why it doesn't land when i say when you're working (23:39) you're not spending yeah because that's not i don't think it's true it's not because if other
Kevin Palmieri
(23:46) people are earning more to spend more than obviously it's not true i remember i like say i (23:53) was on a job and i was making 90 bucks an hour i would literally think to myself okay nine times (23:58) eight i'm making why can't i do the math nine times eight 56 nine times seven is 67 20 720 (24:04) nine times 872 yeah jesus i used to be good at math i remember thinking to myself i made (24:11) 720 today we would go to the mall and i would spend 300 i know i know brother i remember we (24:19) went and i was like i was working i don't think i've ever spent 300 at a mall in my life my buddy (24:24) ray was like you have any watches and i was like no i mean i don't do watches he's like you should (24:28) buy a couple and i was like yeah fuck it you should buy a couple i bought a couple why they (24:34) were like 50 bucks it wasn't 50 or 100 bucks it wasn't anything crazy you don't need a couple (24:38) different colors kind of kind of go with a fit yeah but that's how i used to think about it (24:44) i always used to think about i'm making x amount i can spend x amount safely
Alan Lazaros
(24:49) that was my that was my fundamental on whatever did you know how much money you were leaving (24:55) on the table by you could have invested that and i mean you want to talk about making money (24:59) i had my three apple stocks that i had to liquidate no real talk investor versus consumer (25:04) that's that's the main principle here i did not an investor invests today time effort and money (25:11) no sugar coating direct your future gets brighter if you invest your time effort and money today (25:18) for a bigger better brighter tomorrow there is no way around this (25:22) if you enjoy today it's at the expense of your future what could be (25:28) michael phelps didn't spend five years in the pool missing birthdays and holidays because he (25:32) didn't doesn't love his family one time you came at me you said well you don't value friendship i
Kevin Palmieri
(25:35) said dude not true i value goals more well and that's fair but i understand that when people (25:41) hear that that's where it sounds cagey so just think of it as a hundred you get a hundred points (25:46) if you're putting 70 points into the now you're only putting 30 points into the future yeah and (25:51) those 30 points are not gonna they're not gonna create a brighter future in the future you can (25:56) have 10 000 points just know then you can put those back right yeah just know that you're still (26:02) putting 8 000 in the day in in the now and you're putting 2 000 i'm sorry you're putting uh 2 000 (26:08) in the now 8 000 in the future it would be seven and three but yeah if you keep the same ratio
Alan Lazaros
(26:13) same ratio yeah and yours is 80 20 i do 95 5 but it all depends on your size of your goals if you (26:18) have a level 10 goal you're gonna have to invest at level 10 yes if you have a level 8 goal you (26:23) only have to invest level 8 and i think that that's it's a fundamental this is not this is (26:30) physics every action has an equal and opposite reaction there is no way around this unless you (26:33) have generational wealth in which case someone else did the paying yeah yeah and you could do (26:36) whatever that's why i say we didn't build this country we didn't build this computer we didn't (26:39) build this phone we didn't build the internet we didn't build the electricity we don't like you (26:43) and i are benefiting from other people's investments and i want to invest and our kids will benefit (26:48) if you adopt and i have children and but the world benefits from nlu we are investing our (26:54) time and effort into everyone else's life right now for free i hope that do people i wonder if
Kevin Palmieri
(27:02) that's like not to not i don't know not to that degree not to that degree because i think once (27:10) you connect okay well you're successful because of the thing you're doing that's when it loses
Alan Lazaros
(27:15) it's like you know yeah that's okay we're way less successful than we would have been but it (27:26) doesn't matter it doesn't well yeah yeah but that's there's just too many layers yeah well (27:29) we got to do i mean i investor versus consumer i would love to at some point we could do it
Kevin Palmieri
(27:34) but that that's my takeaway my takeaway i always do this i always think of it as like attribute (27:39) points when you're building a character if you're building a character in a video game and you get (27:43) 100 points and you could put however many you want into today and you can put however many you (27:48) want into tomorrow if you put them all in today tomorrow is going to be a very bad day yeah we
Alan Lazaros
(27:54) when we went to 3 a.m we put way too many points in yeah now at the expense of the rest of the (27:59) week yeah and that's a big l big long-term l if i could show you the math of how much money (28:05) and time and effort we lost and the quality of life our future got worse like big time worse (28:11) and we know it and we're like we we had a conversation like never again i know i know i (28:17) know it was awesome it was awesome never again right i thought it was on a saturday i thought
Kevin Palmieri
(28:22) that was a saturday it was a tuesday night yeah i respect the recklessness a little bit well you
Alan Lazaros
(28:28) every now and then you got to let it ride but you can't you got to be careful of course your future (28:32) is taking a hit yeah of course if you don't take care of your health it'll get worse you don't (28:36) take care of your wealth it'll get worse you don't take care of your relationship it was a big (28:38) relationship investment we spent a lot of quality time together that was nice right but yeah don't (28:43) get it twisted you're you have resources and if you don't use them wisely you're in some serious (28:47) trouble and i don't want to be a villain i just want to help and that's the facts i mean your
Kevin Palmieri
(28:51) your future's gonna pay the price if you don't listen to this it's the way it works yeah that's (28:55) the way it works okay if somebody wants to get to the next level and really really align their (29:00) current selves with future success how would you help them do that on the next meetup which is
Alan Lazaros
(29:06) this coming thursday i believe so the meetup is going to be how to design your environment (29:10) for success everything every room that i enter i am trying to optimize for productivity (29:19) and for investing today for a brighter tomorrow i purposely kevin watched me do this earlier (29:25) there was a risque girl on my facebook and i unfollowed her today because i don't want any (29:30) distractions and whatever she does her that's fine you do you i'm not interested so designing (29:36) your environment digitally and in person needs to be oriented around your goals obviously if (29:43) you're a swimmer you need to have a pool at home if it's a metaphor so i'm gonna go deep in (29:47) everything i've ever done to make sure my environment is set up for success because i (29:51) remember back in the day when i was doing coaching calls in my car that was very not optimal i needed (29:57) a better setup i needed a home office i needed non-distractions i mean that i think that (30:06) when you go this is a good metaphor when you go to rehab they take away all the drugs and alcohol (30:11) the environment is set up for success do that same thing with the habits you need and then a lot of (30:16) times people relapse because when they go home their friends have alcohol and all this kind of (30:20) stuff when i was quitting drinking i got all the alcohol out of the house that's really important (30:25) you can't if you're trying to lose weight don't have cookies on the counter and i'm going to help (30:29) you in way more ways than that the link will be in the show notes boom and if you are a podcaster
Kevin Palmieri
(30:34) who is looking to level up yourself level up your podcast and ultimately maybe eventually turn your (30:38) podcast into a business we have another round of the next level podcast accelerator starting in i (30:43) don't know when but we'll have the link in the show notes for that the website is live and you (30:47) can sign up right now i believe so we'd love to have you if you're a podcaster who's looking to (30:51) get to the next level as always we love you listener promo code nlu listener promo code will (30:56) get you 30 off it ends up being like 24 per call there's a bunch there's 12 calls it's you're not (31:03) going to get that level of value for that price point guaranteed that's the nlu way as always we (31:08) love you we appreciate you grateful for each and every one of you and if you are as committed as (31:12) you say you are to getting to the next level make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will help (31:15) you get there every single day keep reaching for your true potential next level nation thanks for (31:23) joining us for another episode of next level university we love connecting with the next
Alan Lazaros
(31:28) level family we mean it when we say family if you ever need anything please reach out to us directly (31:34) everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes thank you again and we will talk to you
Kevin Palmieri
(31:40) tomorrow