Why Does FLOW Matter To You (2197)

Why do some moments feel effortless while others feel like a grind? In today’s episode, Kevin and Alan share what flow really is, why it matters, and how you can create more of it in your daily life. From cutting distractions to designing your environment for focus, they reveal strategies anyone can use to unlock more productivity, learning, and energy. If you’ve ever wished you could perform at your best without burning out, this episode will show you how. Press play and discover why flow changes everything.

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Show notes:
(2:06) Designing life and space for flow
(4:23) The hidden cost of distractions
(6:34) Batching tasks to find rhythm
(11:19) Why workouts spark flow states
(16:25) Events, standards, and hitting flow late
(18:26) Self-belief, high standards, and flow
(22:23) Outro

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Chapters

• 2:06 Designing life and space for flow
• 4:23 The hidden cost of distractions
• 6:34 Batching tasks to find rhythm
• 11:19 Why workouts spark flow states
• 16:25 Events, standards, and hitting flow late
• 18:26 Self-belief, high standards, and flow
• 22:23 Outro

Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) I don't really know how to talk about what we're going to talk about. (0:03) I don't really know how to explain what I'm going to try to explain, but today we're going to talk about what we promised we would talk about in the previous episode.

Alan Lazaros

(0:10) If you are able to design your life and your environment around getting in the zone, you're going to be far more productive, far more capable, you're going to master far more skills, and you'll have a better life.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:21) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:24) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:25) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.(0:29) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:35) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:42) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(0:57) Self-improvement, in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:04) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:09) When Alan says get in the zone, he's not talking about AutoZone. (1:13) Next Level Nation, welcome back to Next Level University. (1:16) Today for episode number 2197, why does flow matter to you?(1:22) Okay, what is flow?

Alan Lazaros

(1:26) Flow is an optimal state of consciousness that puts you into the present moment, that allows you to master skills faster, learn faster, and get way more done in less time.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:43) So when you say you have, because this was good, that was off the cuff. (1:47) That was good, strong work. (1:48) Thanks man.(1:49) This was a point, not a point of contention, but we were not on the same page here. (1:54) When you say you've optimized your life for flow, what does that mean? (2:01) Put Alan on the spot.

Alan Lazaros

(2:06) I've tried to design my calendar, the rooms in my home, and my social circles, and set rules in my social circles, and social circles, Emilia. (2:23) You know, Emilia and I have rules for flow. (2:25) So I want to give some tangibles.(2:27) Let me try, please. (2:29) There's a, Emilia and I joked yesterday. (2:31) She said, I want to get a sign that says, fuck off, I'm flowing, and put it on my office door.(2:37) Because you keep coming in. (2:39) Because we have closed door policy. (2:41) So if her door is closed, it means she's on a session.(2:44) She does coaching and therapy, and not to interrupt her. (2:48) But she likes the door open when it's nice out, and she likes to have the pets come in and out, and all kinds of stuff. (2:54) And so I'll just come in and interrupt her flow.(2:59) And so what does it mean to optimize for flow? (3:02) It means all of the triggers in your environment, and all of the spaces that you live and work, are designed specifically to create more focus, so that you can be more productive, and get more done, and learn more. (3:17) Okay, what is that?(3:18) So, okay, cool.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:21) How would you help someone design their environment, quote unquote, for whatever, whether it's office environment, whatever, energetic environment, whatever, for flow? (3:34) I actually did a meetup, which is now going to be called a masterclass. (3:39) Yes, the monthly meetups are going to be monthly masterclasses, because they're not meetups anymore, really.(3:45) They are trainings, and a training word that starts with an M is masterclass. (3:50) Shout out to Christina for coming up with that. (3:53) Shout out to Christina.

Alan Lazaros

(3:54) So the last monthly masterclass, it was called a meetup back then, this was meetup number 45, was called How to Design Your Life and Environment for Success. (4:04) And I just, I talked about flow. (4:06) Let me see if I can pull up some examples here.(4:11) Statistic number one. (4:13) One second. (4:16) On average, how often are people in the 21st century distracted throughout the day is the question I asked, chat GPT.(4:23) 50 to 144 times per day. (4:25) So when you ask me that question, how do I optimize and design my life for flow? (4:29) The first thing is to eliminate all distractions.(4:33) So the stats show, and again, there's varying stats, obviously. (4:37) That's how stats work. (4:38) But based on the consensus, people are interrupted nowadays every, a minimum of every three minutes by something, an email, a text message, a pet, a child, a coworker, whatever.(4:53) And it takes 22 minutes minimum to get into flow. (4:57) So your warmup sets, I actually think, are designed to get you into flow. (5:02) Interesting.(5:03) Yeah. (5:03) So you and I talked about how you do three exercises and you do about 20 sets total per workout, per workout. (5:13) And I asked Kev, how many of your sets are warmup sets?(5:15) He said about five. (5:17) So the first, basically fourth of your workout, 25% of your workout is all warmup. (5:21) I think that's you getting into flow, basically.(5:24) Not only are you getting some blood flow, but you're getting into flow.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:27) Okay. (5:29) Somebody like me who lives a, I don't know if you know this about me, but I'll tell you. (5:36) Somebody like me, personally, as a man and business owner, which I am pretty successful, I'm very reactive.(5:50) I feel like we have gone, I've gone through many phases of, you can't really get ahold of me to, that's not really the way my life is ever going to be set up. (6:00) That's not, I'm more a customer service person at this stage than anything else. (6:06) I am so reactive.(6:08) I check my email an unhealthy amount, a hundred times a day, minimum, a minimum. (6:13) I spend on a day like today, today was, I had meetings today on a day where I don't have a lot of meetings. (6:20) I spend three hours on WhatsApp minimum.(6:23) How am I supposed to be in flow when I am literally task switching in a way that I think is actually good for success?

Alan Lazaros

(6:34) Yeah, it is. (6:35) Great question. (6:36) Thank you.(6:37) I appreciate your question, Kevin. (6:39) No, but so I do something called the next level sales system every single day. (6:44) Five, no, five comments, five likes.(6:48) I have to close my eyes when I do this because I need to see it. (6:51) I understand you do it for five emails, five likes, five comments, five DMs, five WhatsApp messages, five emails and five. (7:01) I think it's emails twice.(7:03) Invites.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:03) Yeah. (7:04) I think you might have said at least two of those twice. (7:06) Hold on.

Alan Lazaros

(7:08) All right. (7:10) I've done this every day.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:11) I'm going to close my eyes too. (7:12) Maybe we'll get it together.

Alan Lazaros

(7:13) All right. (7:14) All right. (7:15) Five posts.(7:16) Yes. (7:16) Okay. (7:17) Five posts, five likes, five comments, five DMs, five WhatsApp messages, five emails and five invites.(7:26) Yes. (7:26) Nice. (7:27) I did it.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:27) Okay.

Alan Lazaros

(7:28) So that's 35 touches a day every day. (7:30) I want to get to seven. (7:31) I want to do a seven by seven at some point.(7:32) So it's right now it's seven by five. (7:34) Anyways, it's a way to keep the community engaged. (7:36) It's a way to keep me involved, keep a pulse on the community, social media, all this stuff.(7:41) I sent some follow-up emails to some potential clients from breakthrough sessions that I did right before this. (7:47) That's actually why I wasn't on time. (7:49) Okay.(7:50) To answer your question, you're reactive. (7:53) The next level sales system is very reactive too. (7:55) You see me in there.(7:56) I'm DMing you. (7:58) I'm sharing your post that you just did. (8:01) So Kev did a post while I was doing it.(8:03) So what I do is I try to block an hour and a half if possible because I can get the whole sales system done in an hour and a half. (8:09) So I flow within that hour and a half. (8:11) So the short answer is what's called batching.(8:14) So if you batch your WhatsApp twice a day, every day, once in the morning, once before you close the store, you can get into flow twice and you can get a lot more done. (8:26) But it's not good for you. (8:28) And I'm not saying not to do this because I'm grateful for the way you operate.(8:32) But like ideally you do three hours of WhatsApp, but you'd break it into nice if I could fucking talk, break it into three hour, one hour blocks ideally in your calendar or two hour and a half blocks or one giant three hour block in the morning. (8:50) But I know you can't do that because clients are messaging you throughout the day.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:55) Yeah. (8:55) It's hard. (8:55) I think that's the thing that seems very, and I don't want, I don't want it to be like a limiting belief, but it, I had a client.(9:05) Yeah. (9:05) I was supposed to have a call with him at 3 p.m. He texted me at 10 30 said, Hey, I can hop on now if you want. (9:13) Sure, man, whatever.(9:14) I said, I got to call at 11 or no, it's 10 o'clock. (9:16) I got to call at 10 30 is can we do it in 25 minutes? (9:20) He's like, yeah, if not, we can just keep our time later.(9:22) Cool. (9:22) Whatever. (9:23) So we do it for 25 minutes.(9:25) And then I get a text from him at three o'clock of like, Hey, are we jumping on? (9:29) I was running behind cause I was on another podcast. (9:32) And then I called him and I was on the phone with him for 30 minutes.(9:37) It's almost like, I don't know how to explain it. (9:40) I can't, it's like, I can't leave for too long because too much happens where it actually affects the rest of my day. (9:46) Well, I also, it's not a perfect day thing.

Alan Lazaros

(9:51) I don't want this to come off. (9:53) I have, so today I had, I was with you for an hour and 45 earlier. (10:03) We rebranded the business.(10:05) So it was good for us. (10:06) Got one episode done too. (10:07) That's a good one.(10:08) It's good stuff. (10:08) All right. (10:09) And then I had a block of time where I worked on BGU stuff.(10:12) And then I had a conscious couples podcast episode with Emilia. (10:16) And then I had another block of time where I did the sales system and I did some other stuff in between emails and stuff. (10:23) I sometimes have backed like tomorrow's one.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:26) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(10:26) When you're back to back five, six, what does that look like? (10:29) Eight. (10:29) It's terrible.(10:31) It's awesome.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:31) You get flow in the morning and flow at night.

Alan Lazaros

(10:33) That's it. (10:33) I get flow in the morning when I work out for sure. (10:36) That's like the goal.(10:38) If I don't hit flow during my workout, when we walk into the gym, a lot of times I'll, Emilia is in different States and I'm in different States. (10:47) And usually I try to get her into the warrior mode. (10:49) So I'll say, what are we optimizing for?(10:50) She'll say flow. (10:51) Like that's just a reminder, like in the gym, we're optimizing for flow. (10:55) We're not optimizing for anything else.(10:56) And that's why I don't like being interrupted. (10:58) If anyone were to see me in the gym, if you're a listener, I had a listener in the past who literally came up to me in the middle of the Stairmaster and he showed us our podcast. (11:06) He was listening.(11:07) Yeah. (11:07) Shout out to you, Cam, if you're listening, but he ended up being client his whole thing. (11:11) My point is though, if I don't get into flow during a workout, that is a shitty workout period.(11:19) And so I get one in the morning, almost no matter what. (11:22) And if I'm not working out in the morning, because we're working out at night, because we woke up later, whatever it is, I will always try to get some time in flow where I'm learning. (11:36) And what that means is no interruptions.(11:38) It just means I don't check anything. (11:41) I'm not on social, like I need an hour in the morning. (11:44) Minimum.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:44) What's if you don't have to suggest what flow feels like. (11:48) I got to go with the feels because what's the difference between focus and flow.

Alan Lazaros

(11:54) There's not a ton from a state. (11:57) There's different levels of flow. (11:58) Like if you've ever been snowboarding and you just were feeling it and you thought you were the fucking man or woman and you decided to go off some jump because you were feeling it and then you got humbled, broke your ass flow.(12:10) Everything feels like a good idea when you're in flow. (12:12) Like you were in flow, probably when you did that back flip at the wedding. (12:15) For sure.(12:16) I had, I was whiskey. (12:19) That's flow. (12:20) No whiskey is flow.(12:21) It helps. (12:22) Oh shit. (12:23) Yeah.(12:23) When you're drinking at a concert and you're listening to music, I mean, dude, dancing gets you into flow.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:28) There's a lot. (12:28) Check another positive, check another box for the positives of alcohol. (12:32) Boom.(12:32) Flow. (12:33) Totally kidding.

Alan Lazaros

(12:34) If you're just, yes, you're just listening to flow with alcohol, but then it ruins your ability to get into flow the next day. (12:38) Cause when you're hung over, you can't get into flow. (12:40) Okay.(12:40) As easily.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:41) Okay. (12:41) Okay. (12:42) Okay.

Alan Lazaros

(12:43) Hmm. (12:45) You really haven't thought a lot about flow. (12:47) It's very surprising to me.(12:48) I'm not trying to be a dick. (12:49) No, no, no. (12:50) I, and again, this is me projecting.(12:52) I, I can't imagine. (12:56) You've asked me in the past, like how I don't burn down. (13:00) I've had a lot of clients actually say that too.(13:02) Like, how do you not burn down like 54 a week? (13:05) My average this quarter is 49, 49 coaching sessions, trainings, and podcasts. (13:10) And I still have a home.(13:11) I still have exercise every day. (13:13) I still have a girlfriend, future wife. (13:15) I still have the normal issues humans have.(13:18) I still have to cut my fucking fingernails. (13:20) I still have to do my hair. (13:21) I still have to shower.(13:22) Like how the fuck do you do that? (13:24) Right? (13:24) Cause that's 54 in this case, 49 hours every week that are front facing hours.(13:30) That has nothing to do with WhatsApp or emails or Instagram is like my WhatsApp right now has probably 60 messages on it. (13:36) And I'm grateful. (13:37) That's good.(13:38) That's, that's demand. (13:39) That's wonderful. (13:40) But you, you and clients have said like, I don't understand.(13:44) Flow is a big part of it.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:45) Huge part of it. (13:46) Actually, I used to get super, we used to, so when we were in the studio together back in the day, we would have an interview and Alan would scroll in two minutes before the fucking interview. (13:57) And I had the cameras, the camera was on, it was in focus.(14:00) The lights were on. (14:01) I was ready. (14:02) Everything was set up.(14:04) And then we'd get to the end of it and I'm in charge of the time, everything. (14:09) And we get to the end of it. (14:10) He'd be like, dude, how was that for you?(14:11) Is it good? (14:11) You hit flow? (14:12) Fuck no.(14:13) I didn't hit flow. (14:14) You showed up two minutes before I thought you were going to be late. (14:17) And I feel like, and again, this is a great problem to have.(14:21) It's my job to make sure you get to your fucking coaching call on time. (14:24) Cause if I don't do it, I'm not convinced you will.

Alan Lazaros

(14:28) So I am you with Emilia in The Conscious Couple. (14:32) So what's that been like? (14:34) It's been good for me to see what you have dealt with.(14:37) But I don't mean that in a negative way. (14:39) So I joked with Emilia earlier. (14:41) I said, you're the talent.(14:42) Don't worry about it. (14:42) I got this. (14:43) Let me direct.(14:43) Let me direct. (14:44) I'm the director of this film. (14:47) I said, I told her, I said, sometimes I feel like I'm a director of a shitty ass indie film.(14:52) I'm joking. (14:53) I'm literally kidding. (14:54) It's really, really good.(14:55) I just have really high standards. (14:56) And like the lapel has to be one time she had a scarf and it like fell off. (15:01) It's like, God damn it.(15:02) You know, but it's not, that's someone has to do it. (15:08) And so we have a bunch going on. (15:10) The relationship talks, virtual events, dude, we have one, two, three, four.(15:18) We have four screens plus mine, five screens. (15:21) We have the chat over here. (15:23) We got it going on.(15:25) And I mean, it's been 51 events. (15:27) So we've, we've improved dude. (15:29) I understand.(15:31) It's, it's, it's a whole thing. (15:33) It's very hard to be kind and in flow when you're requiring to do all the setup. (15:41) We also do movie clips.(15:42) So you have to, and now you know this, you can't share screen well on YouTube anymore. (15:48) It blacks it out. (15:49) So you have to like download the clips and all that stuff.(15:52) So there's so much going on. (15:53) Those relationship talks events. (15:55) If you've never been to them, they take a lot of effort.(15:59) It's like crazy what we do for free. (16:01) It's genuinely insane. (16:03) But at the end of the day, I'm, I'm learning a ton and I love the community.(16:07) And do you, I know that that will pay off forever. (16:09) Do you get in flow when you do those? (16:11) Yes, eventually.(16:13) But it usually takes, dude, the beginnings are always pretty, pretty hard because every, and these are heavy ass topics to Amelia does the slides. (16:22) I review the slides right before it's a lot. (16:25) It's unbelievable.(16:26) Genuinely. (16:26) I'll, I'll toot our horn for a second. (16:27) It's unbelievable what we do, but the point of flow here, I do get into flow, but not until usually 10 or 15 minutes in.(16:35) Cause I, they're so heavy and, and Emilia usually opens them with really depressing stats. (16:41) Like fucking everyone's going to get divorced and marriage is a sham and you're most likely fucked. (16:47) Like, it's like, honey, we gotta, we gotta open with something positive, at least a little.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:50) When's the next one? (16:51) Might as well do a shout out.

Alan Lazaros

(16:52) Might as well do a shout out for it. (16:53) When's the next one? (16:55) Uh, we're talking about next month, man.(16:57) Well, what is it for a second Thursday? (17:01) It's on a Wednesday. (17:02) I don't know.(17:03) Let me, let me, let me click on it. (17:04) Please, please. (17:05) Thank you, man.(17:06) And again, Emilia has gotten incredibly better. (17:09) I'm hard on us because like, you're not going to get a better event for free anywhere. (17:14) That's my truth.(17:15) I just am. (17:16) It's hard for me to hold both. (17:18) These RT events are unbelievably valuable.(17:20) If I was an audience member, they'd be like, I can't, how is this, how is this free? (17:24) I had a break from my perspective.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:26) It's like, we need to do so much better. (17:27) I had a breakthrough today. (17:28) Somebody said, why do people beat themselves up so much?(17:31) And I said, because their standards are way higher than their competencies and they don't know it. (17:37) And I said, but somebody who's lower on self-belief, if you have a level two self-belief and you have level 10 standards, you are fucked. (17:45) You are going to beat yourself up and you're going to feel so bad about yourself.

Alan Lazaros

(17:48) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:49) So that was a breakthrough. (17:50) And so the reason is for sure. (17:52) The reason is you and Emilia both have very, very high standards, but you also have incredibly high self-belief so you can handle that type of stuff.

Alan Lazaros

(18:01) Yeah. (18:01) Agreed. (18:02) So relationship talks, virtual event number 52 is how to set and crush goals with your partner.(18:08) It is on October 15th at 5 p.m. It's a Wednesday because she has group coaching on Thursdays now and they're free and they're unbelievable. (18:16) I mean, we work really fucking hard on these and I've learned so much because this is not my genius. (18:23) She does the slides like she it's unbelievable.(18:26) Some of the research and stuff and that she brings in. (18:29) So it's, it's really good. (18:30) Okay.(18:30) Back to flow.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:31) Cause I know we got to go. (18:32) Yeah. (18:32) Sell me on.(18:32) So sell me on flow. (18:34) Why does it matter? (18:35) I'm productive.(18:37) I'm productive. (18:38) Fucking crushing it. (18:39) The most productive person I know outside of a couple other people, you and Emilia and some other people.(18:45) Is there anyone else? (18:46) Who? (18:48) Bianca's.(18:48) Bianca's productive AF. (18:50) Killing it. (18:50) Outside of that, come at me, bro.(18:53) You're out there. (18:53) You think you're more productive than me? (18:54) You might be.(18:55) I don't think so though. (18:56) You might be, but you sell it. (18:59) I can't because I don't believe in it.(19:01) I do. (19:02) I do believe in it, but I, I'm not doing it. (19:04) So I can't sell it to somebody else.(19:05) I don't know. (19:06) You are. (19:06) You just don't know.(19:07) You are. (19:08) I think you are. (19:09) You just don't know.(19:09) You are. (19:10) I wouldn't miss you. (19:10) This is what I always hit flow.(19:12) This is why I have a lot of pain behind those eyes. (19:13) This is what I'll say. (19:15) When I do other podcasts, I definitely am in flow a hundred percent.(19:20) I don't know what time it is. (19:21) I don't care. (19:21) I couldn't care less.(19:22) I I'm in the best. (19:24) I did a speech one time. (19:25) This is why you don't like to do half hour interviews.(19:27) I hundred percent. (19:27) Yeah. (19:28) Because it takes me a minute.(19:31) I did a speech one time and I don't, it was either, I don't remember what it was on and about 20 minutes in, I literally, and again, this is going to sound extremely arrogant. (19:41) I literally said, I, I feel real bad for whoever's coming up after me internally because I am fucking dialed. (19:47) Yeah.(19:48) I I'm not, that's what flow feels like. (19:50) That's it. (19:50) That, but I feel like that's rare for me.

Alan Lazaros

(19:53) Seriously? (19:54) Yeah. (19:55) Well, there's levels it's zero to 10.(19:56) It's not like you are in flow or you're not.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:58) That was probably, that was high 10 out of 10 mostly. (20:02) And I was outside of my comfort zone. (20:05) There's flow triggers, Google float, flow triggers.(20:07) Cause you're not gonna have time to go through all of them. (20:08) But I was outside of my comfort zone. (20:10) It was, it was a really good, I mean, the, the, the circumstances were all aligned.

Alan Lazaros

(20:18) We talk about flow with Stephen Kotler on just go to YouTube and say, Stephen Kotler, please don't do next level university. (20:27) And I think it's 602 or something like that. (20:29) The, the interview will come up 2019.(20:32) We interviewed him and this book, if you've not read it is unbelievable.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:36) It's one of my favorites of all time. (20:37) That interview was a ripe piece of shit though. (20:39) I mean, that was, that was 1500 episodes ago.(20:43) Just imagine. (20:43) It's still going to be valuable because of what he said. (20:46) I had very little value.(20:47) That was the, I had a midlife crisis in the middle of that episode. (20:50) That was an inflection point for me. (20:51) Was it bad?(20:52) Yeah, I don't know. (20:53) I was in flow. (20:54) I remember I asked about something and he's like, well, flow is not really an opinion.(20:57) It's like, it's a, it's a thing. (20:58) He didn't say it in a bad way, but I was like, ah, fuck, I've lost all credit over your head on that. (21:03) I was definitely in over my head.(21:04) I couldn't find flow. (21:04) That was the problem. (21:05) I couldn't find flow.(21:06) All right. (21:07) I strolled in two minutes before probably.

Alan Lazaros

(21:08) I'm sure you probably did.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:10) Just calm as a cucumber. (21:12) I used to know Alan would text me be like, Hey man, you want a coffee or anything? (21:16) It's like, you're fucking late, right?(21:17) You're running late. (21:18) You shouldn't be a dunk of donuts. (21:20) You're five minutes late already.(21:21) You want a coffee or a donut or anything? (21:22) Anything I can get you? (21:23) Yeah.(21:23) Get your ass to the fucking studio. (21:25) Please. (21:25) I'm freaking out over here.(21:27) GTs, baby. (21:27) Freaking out. (21:28) Dean Grazios.(21:29) He's waiting for me. (21:30) I'm freaking out. (21:31) Get it here.(21:31) What are we doing? (21:32) I can't do this by myself. (21:33) All right.(21:34) If you are a podcaster who wants to make as many mistakes as we have, or I guess not make as many mistakes as we have, we have the next level podcast is podcast accelerator starting on October 7th. (21:45) I am not in That's why I can't get my shit together. (21:49) You will learn the awareness, habits, and strategies to grow, scale, and monetize your podcast.(21:57) If you're somebody who wants to turn your podcast into a business, that is exactly what it is designed for. (22:01) Link will be in the show notes, discount code NLU listener for 30% off. (22:05) Nice.

Alan Lazaros

(22:06) Thanks man. (22:07) If you want help designing and optimizing your life for flow, the first business breakthrough session is free. (22:14) If never done a business breakthrough session with me, 30 minutes, we will get into flow together and I will help you learn everything that I wish I knew 10 years ago.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:23) Boom. (22:23) All right. (22:24) As always, we love you.(22:25) We appreciate you. (22:25) Grateful for each and every one of you. (22:26) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single day to help you get there.

Alan Lazaros

(22:34) Keep reaching for your full potential. (22:36) Next level nation.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:39) Thanks for joining us for another episode of next level university. (22:43) We love connecting with next level family.

Alan Lazaros

(22:46) We mean it. (22:46) When we say family, if you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (22:51) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.(22:54) Thank you again. (22:55) And we will talk to you tomorrow.