A Skill You Need To Develop To Get To The Next Level (2209)

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Show notes:
(2:17) Proactivity as the ultimate skill
(4:10) Life as a video game metaphor
(12:01) Avoiding pile-ups with preparation
(14:19) Zooming out and future awareness
(17:39) Why jobs and skills will be replaced
(19:08) The power of a 10-year roadmap
(23:52) Outro

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Chapters

• 2:17 Proactivity as the ultimate skill
• 4:10 Life as a video game metaphor
• 12:01 Avoiding pile-ups with preparation
• 14:19 Zooming out and future awareness
• 17:39 Why jobs and skills will be replaced
• 19:08 The power of a 10-year roadmap
• 23:52 Outro

Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) I absolutely love waiting to the last minute. (0:03) And waiting to the last minute has bitten me in the booty more times than I care to admit. (0:08) Today, we are going to help you avoid that, hopefully.

Alan Lazaros

(0:11) Emilia and I created the 25 Conscious Love Languages, and one of the first five is Proactive Initiative, which is what we're going to talk about today.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:20) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:22) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:24) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.(0:27) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no-BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:34) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:40) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(0:56) Self-improvement, in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:03) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:08) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2209, a skill you need to develop to get to the next level. (1:18) Got a new client recently. (1:21) This client is dialed in.(1:23) Nice. (1:23) They remind me of you. (1:26) Just always, like texting, they're an hour behind.(1:30) I get a text at 7 a.m. on a Saturday, 6 a.m. on a Saturday for them. (1:35) I get a text at 10.45 at night from them. (1:38) I said, when do you sleep?(1:40) And he said, not much. (1:42) It's like, okay, well that's not good, necessarily, but shout out to the work ethic. (1:46) I know, that's where the parallel ends.(1:51) But we start, this is a common thing, this happens often. (1:54) We start with someone as a client with plan A, and then they're like, wait, you do plan B, C, D, and E and F also? (2:02) I'm like, yeah, we can do all that.(2:03) They're like, all right, take all of that then. (2:05) I'm like, okay, I'm going to have to figure out how to do that. (2:08) We had a deliverable that we had to meet, and I literally had to plan a month in advance in order to make this happen and move some pieces around and personnel and all that.(2:17) That is something I was not capable of doing two years ago. (2:21) Never mind. (2:22) Yeah, whatever, I'll say it, two years ago, never mind, eight years ago when I started this.(2:27) That, I think as somebody who is trying to get to the next level, this is a skill. (2:32) Proactivity is the skill. (2:34) Real quick.(2:35) Yes, please.

Alan Lazaros

(2:38) Eight years ago, Kev, how would he handle a client like that?

Kevin Palmieri

(2:47) I don't even know if Kevin would have taken a client like that. (2:50) Honestly, I don't know. (2:52) I don't even know if I would have said yes.

Alan Lazaros

(2:53) You weren't ready. (2:53) Yeah, I probably wouldn't have said yes. (2:56) People say, and I know this isn't the point of the episode, we're going to go to proactivity.(3:00) Proactivity. (3:02) We're going to go to proactivity. (3:05) It's been a long day, been a long week, been a long quarter, been a long life.(3:09) It's been, not really. (3:11) Okay. (3:12) We're only 36, baby, we're just getting started.(3:16) The Kevin back then could not attract, there's the quote, you have to become the type of person who can attract the client you want. (3:25) The success you want. (3:26) Sure.(3:28) Kevin, eight years ago, was not capable of creating or sustaining the success you have right now. (3:35) As a matter of fact, Kevin, three years ago, wasn't. (3:39) We did an episode not long ago about success is a process, not a destination.(3:45) The level you're at, let's say there's a hundred levels, and you're a character in a video game. (3:54) There's a hundred levels.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:54) I love this. (3:55) It's my favorite.

Alan Lazaros

(3:55) You're 36 now, yes, nice. (3:59) You are at level 36 of this game. (4:04) This game we call fucking life, it's a video game.(4:10) What do you need to do to get to level 37?

Kevin Palmieri

(4:16) Survive. (4:17) Just live for another eight months, and I will get there. (4:22) No, no, no.(4:23) In this metaphor, you actually have to get better to get to your next level of success. (4:27) I've never played this video game before, so I don't know.

Alan Lazaros

(4:29) In this video game, real quick, in this video game, you have goals, and you go on quests, and you develop skills, and you have character traits that you have to- Done, done. (4:36) Okay, yeah. (4:37) Dexterity, and strength, and mana.

Kevin Palmieri

(4:39) Gotta be way more, way more, what did you say? (4:42) Mana.

Alan Lazaros

(4:42) What is it? (4:43) Okay. (4:44) I'm using Diablo II reference.

Kevin Palmieri

(4:46) That's how I- Strength, dexterity, mana. (4:47) I don't know any, I know, yeah, I don't know enough about, I don't know anything about it. (4:50) Who am I kidding?(4:51) Would you be the barbarian, or the paladin, or the sorceress, or the druid, or the assassin?

Alan Lazaros

(4:56) What would you be? (4:57) Assassin.

Kevin Palmieri

(4:57) Yeah, nice. (4:58) Ah, druid. (4:59) A druid has a ring to it for me, actually, also.

Alan Lazaros

(5:01) A druid? (5:02) Yeah. (5:03) What would you transform into, a wolf or a bear?

Kevin Palmieri

(5:05) Bear. (5:06) Nice. (5:07) Bear.(5:09) Have people talk, big game, about wolves? (5:11) I don't see it. (5:13) I have a wolf right here.(5:15) I don't see it. (5:16) Did you know that, by the way? (5:17) I always have these.(5:18) I've been to your home maybe four times. (5:20) Do you remember this? (5:21) This wolf?(5:22) I don't think I've seen that in my entire life. (5:24) Honestly, God, I don't think I've ever seen that in my entire life. (5:27) I like the wolf metaphor.(5:29) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(5:32) Because the strength of the wolf is the pack, and the strength of the pack is the wolf. (5:36) Yeah. (5:37) Wolf is a pack animal.(5:38) You need everybody. (5:39) I like bears.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:40) But one wolf can make the difference. (5:43) Yeah, but one bear is just an absolute brick shithouse of a specimen.

Alan Lazaros

(5:49) I have a- You ever seen those things?

Kevin Palmieri

(5:50) The MOU team is a bunch of wolves, and then Kev is just a bear who runs into walls and shit. (5:56) Okay. (5:57) What do I need?(5:58) I need everything. (5:59) I need to get better at literally everything. (6:01) Somebody asked me today, I've been getting this question so much on podcasts.(6:03) I'm not making it wrong, but I just don't have a good answer. (6:07) Where do you see NLU and yourself in the next one to three years? (6:10) Where do you see you and NLU in the next one to five years?(6:14) Same shit. (6:15) Just better. (6:16) That's what I say every time.(6:17) You do not. (6:18) I preface it with, this is always a really challenging question for me to answer because essentially it's going to be the same except everything is going to be way better. (6:25) More impact, I'm going to get way better at this, we're going to help more people, we're going to make more money, and we're going to pour it back into the business, and everything is going to get bigger, but nothing different.

Alan Lazaros

(6:34) Better website.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:35) Same shit.

Alan Lazaros

(6:37) Better website. (6:38) Better microphones. (6:39) Better cameras.(6:40) Better studios. (6:42) Better team. (6:43) Just everything's better.(6:44) Everything's better.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:45) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(6:45) But not everything. (6:46) We've got to be a little more specific. (6:48) It can't be just everything.(6:49) Not everything's better. (6:50) No. (6:51) There's certain things that get better.(6:52) Everything's got to get better.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:55) You're telling me not everything is going to get better over the next five years? (6:59) For the things that we do? (7:00) It's got to be.(7:02) Everything that we do, yeah. (7:04) But like, I don't know. (7:05) What am I going to tell people?(7:06) Like, well, I got to let you know, none of the things I don't do are going to get better. (7:10) Obviously. (7:11) I know.

Alan Lazaros

(7:12) It's just, it seems like such an exaggeration. (7:14) Like everything. (7:15) It's just so useless.(7:16) I'm with you, but it feels useless.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:19) Well, when I interview you on Business Growth University, I'll make sure when I ask you, where do you see NLU in the next one to five years, I don't let you cop out on the answer.

Alan Lazaros

(7:28) I'm excited. (7:29) Real quick. (7:29) Yeah.(7:30) I get asked questions like that too, but I give a lot more specifics than that.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:34) Well, I don't know. (7:35) I don't know is the answer. (7:36) I don't know.(7:37) Really. (7:38) You asked me where we're going to be two years ago, two years ago. (7:41) Don't know.(7:42) Really. (7:42) You did know some stuff. (7:44) Better.(7:45) You knew some stuff. (7:46) I would say better. (7:47) I'd say the same thing.(7:48) Say everything we're doing now, just better. (7:51) Okay. (7:51) My camera did the thing where it goes to frigging night mode.(7:54) I don't get it. (7:55) Okay. (8:00) That'll get better for sure.(8:01) I don't think so. (8:01) I don't know. (8:02) Look, I don't know what the root cause is.(8:05) Look, if anybody out there is a camera wizard, I know a decent amount about cameras. (8:09) I can't fix this problem. (8:10) My camera just gets dark randomly.(8:12) It goes into portrait mode on my Mac. (8:14) I don't get it. (8:15) I've chatted.(8:16) I've done research. (8:17) I can't figure it out. (8:18) Why is proactivity so important?(8:20) As somebody who with love was atrocious at this for a while. (8:26) Oh my God. (8:27) How dare you?(8:29) I mean, it was a weakness though. (8:32) Hold on. (8:34) Hold on.(8:35) Look, first of all, I'm not saying I was any better. (8:38) I'm not saying I was any better. (8:40) Hold on.

Alan Lazaros

(8:42) Proactivity appeared to be bad because I was focused on the decade.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:47) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(8:47) Which is actually very proactive. (8:49) Interesting. (8:50) Yeah.(8:51) Well. (8:52) So, hey. (8:53) Answer the question as if it was true.(8:55) Fuck you. (8:56) I'm kidding. (8:57) We're joking.(8:58) Don't just cut to that part, please. (9:01) I was so proactive that the now didn't matter at all, which appeared like I was not proactive. (9:07) Which I now realize is a huge credit hit.(9:09) Yeah, I don't do that anymore. (9:11) I don't do that as bad anymore. (9:13) Well, like things like speeches and stuff you do the day before.(9:17) Yeah. (9:18) But I was always preparing for the decade. (9:22) I know.(9:23) I know. (9:23) That sounds so stupid. (9:24) Okay, hold on.(9:25) It doesn't sound. (9:25) No, I just know it's not. (9:27) It's like I wasn't.(9:29) I know. (9:30) You said this earlier. (9:32) You don't have to get ready when you fucking are ready or whatever.(9:35) You were being playful before we hit record. (9:39) I actually do that though. (9:41) When you stay ready.(9:43) Yeah, something like that. (9:44) I actually am ready for a speech now. (9:49) Genuinely.(9:49) So it's not going to work with you. (9:50) I'm not ready for a world class perfect speech right now. (9:54) Right, right, right.(9:54) And here's the rationale. (9:57) Alan, you're ready but you also could prep to also be ready. (10:01) So, it's very hard though because if you had, picture the last ten years.(10:06) I've been a speaker for ten years. (10:08) Coach, trainer, speaker, podcaster. (10:10) If you looked at me two years in, you would not think I was successful.(10:15) But what I was doing two years in has paid off all along the way. (10:22) And so you can't really know how good someone's strategy is until, if they're playing the long game, until you see the long game. (10:31) And Kobe Bryant used to say this.(10:33) He said, I started when I was 13. (10:35) I made a promise to myself that I'd be the best basketball player I could possibly be. (10:38) And he said, I went to Goat Mountain, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson.(10:43) He went and learned from the best. (10:46) And he said from 13 on, I had to play a long game because I couldn't beat these kids. (10:51) These kids were athletic freaks.(10:52) So I had to play the long game. (10:53) He said I had a kill list. (10:55) I had 68 names.(10:57) I had to become number one back in those days. (11:01) And I agree with him 100% on the long game. (11:05) I knew I could never be with a girl like Emilia.(11:09) She was attractive in high school. (11:10) I was a loser. (11:11) So I had to play the long game because I didn't hit puberty.(11:18) But even with her, if you had seen me at 28, you would not be like, wow, he's going to be happily married and in love and have a beautiful family with kids. (11:29) I mean, no. (11:33) You know what I mean?(11:34) No, not really. (11:35) I was so proactive.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:37) I was learning about relationships. (11:39) But why would I have not thought you were going to have a relationship at 28? (11:42) Because I was in a terrible relationship.

Alan Lazaros

(11:44) Oh, same. (11:45) Not terrible. (11:46) So my standards, compared to Emilia, that relationship sucked.(11:50) Straight up. (11:52) So then that question can't land for you. (11:56) Yeah.(11:56) I would say I wasn't appearing proactive.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:59) That is fair. (12:01) I think the reason it's so important is because it allows you to avoid pile-ups. (12:08) It's like, we're getting so many opportunities right now that if I wasn't proactive, I wouldn't be able to say yes to.(12:18) Because I know it would just pile up. (12:20) It would be like, oh yeah, can we start this next week? (12:25) No.(12:26) No. (12:27) Absolutely not. (12:28) No.(12:29) And, so this is the example. (12:31) The client said, this is what we want. (12:33) I said, cool, we can do that.(12:34) Cool. (12:35) Then it was, well, can we also do this too? (12:37) It's like, yeah, we can probably do that.(12:40) Eventually it got to the point where I said, yep, we can do that and we'll have it to you by this date. (12:45) And I was just trying to be proactive for that. (12:48) And then yesterday they asked me for something else, which changes everything.(12:52) And the only reason I could say yes, he said, will you be good to go in the beginning of the month? (12:55) The only reason I can say yes is because we were proactive on that one thing. (12:59) And everything leading up to it.(13:01) So, again, maybe not the best example because it's super specific, but I feel like, okay, if you want to operate at a high level for a high amount of time, you have to be proactive because you can't have hangups that shouldn't be happening.

Alan Lazaros

(13:14) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:14) You can't be, you can't jump off course because of something stupid that you could have planned better that you didn't that is now biting you in the butt. (13:22) Going back to what we said originally.

Alan Lazaros

(13:26) I don't even know where to go with this necessarily because, first, let's define proactivity. (13:32) Planning for something in advance. (13:35) Preparing for something in advance.(13:36) Doing something ahead of time. (13:37) Prioritizing your future self. (13:39) That's why I think it's hard for me is I don't necessarily like sharing things like this.(13:51) I don't almost ever do anything for just right now. (13:57) Yeah. (13:58) We have an app called Optimal that we invested a bunch of money into and a lot of people use it.(14:05) We had like 130 people and anyone who's listening right now either has used that app or doesn't know it exists and now you do because I'm talking about it but when we do have an app in the future it'll be because we did that proactively. (14:19) Right? (14:19) So everything I'm doing in Google Sheets right now the system of success with all my clients that's all in preparation for the app.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:27) But this is the hard thing is your ability to be proactive is based on your ability to know what to do in the future or what you're going to do or what you want to do.

Alan Lazaros

(14:35) So one of the reasons I send you all those videos of tech is because I want you to see that everything I said eight years ago is happening. (14:42) Like I want you to zoom out. (14:44) I don't think people God that comes off so pretentious we don't zoom out enough.(14:49) That's why I sent you did I at least send you the one of the gym in the 60s? (14:53) Yeah I was like it was so weird. (14:55) Yeah that's so important to zoom out that wasn't that long ago that was only what you're looking at 65 years ago.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:01) But it was I mean did you see how bad that gym was? (15:05) Well remember the remember the gym on the Titanic? (15:09) I remember that just because of the film it was like like three things.(15:15) It was like that was the high class here you go you can come to this gym because you're the wealthiest people on board.

Alan Lazaros

(15:21) We went and saw a mansion called the Biltmore in North Carolina and they had a gym and a pool and it was built in the late 1800s? (15:33) Yeah late 1800s and the gym was hilarious. (15:37) They had like they used to use these pins from bowling pins that they would like swing around.(15:46) People still do that? (15:47) They do. (15:48) Yeah that's like a modality.(15:50) It's not my cup of tea. (15:53) I like to zoom out all the time. (15:56) I mean genuinely anyone out there watching or listening there will be walking talking humanoid robots within the next decade in every home.(16:05) Like that's going to happen and when that happens you will have heard it here first. (16:09) Just self-driving car? (16:11) This is again I don't like to share this but I need to.(16:15) I've been waiting for a self-driving car for so goddamn long. (16:20) Everyone else is like oh my god did you know that this car drives itself? (16:23) And I'm like about fucking time!(16:25) Holy shit! (16:27) That's the problem when you're you zoom out constantly. (16:32) I zoom out constantly.(16:34) Very few people can take themselves out of the times they're born into. (16:39) I don't talk about this almost ever because I hide a lot of things about myself but I know history really well. (16:46) World history (16:47) American history (16:48) I know all the different years (16:49) I know all the different (16:50) world leaders (16:51) I know how it all connects (16:52) and again (16:53) not all of it (16:54) if you're a history buff (16:55) and that's all you do (16:56) you're not going to think (16:57) I'm great (16:58) but if you're (16:59) I mean yeah (16:59) I know (17:01) World War I (17:02) and World War II (17:03) and who was in it (17:03) Axis and Allies (17:04) and Civil War (17:05) I know (17:06) a lot of the history (17:07) of humanity (17:08) and the reason why (17:09) is because (17:09) especially the history (17:10) of technology (17:11) the history of technology (17:13) the bow and arrow (17:13) at one point (17:14) was the world's (17:15) greatest technology (17:16) and that is insane (17:18) because now (17:19) that wouldn't do anything (17:20) so (17:21) at the end of the day (17:22) to get off the soapbox (17:23) here (17:24) proactivity (17:24) is predicated (17:25) on how much (17:26) you can zoom out (17:27) I am proactively (17:28) preparing for (17:29) humanoid robots (17:30) I'm not joking (17:30) Emilio and I (17:31) are already planning (17:32) on it

Kevin Palmieri

(17:33) but it's based on (17:34) it's based on awareness (17:35) alright (17:36) so you can only be (17:37) as proactive (17:37) as you can see (17:38) into the future (17:38) I guess

Alan Lazaros

(17:39) yeah and that's (17:40) what scares me (17:41) and this is one (17:42) of the reasons (17:42) we started (17:42) Next Level University (17:45) folks (17:45) folks (17:47) your job (17:47) is going to be (17:48) replaced (17:49) if you do not (17:49) skill up (17:51) now (17:52) you don't have (17:53) time to wait (17:53) now (17:54) when I say (17:55) I was mining (17:55) for bitcoin (17:56) in 2007 (17:57) in my dorm room (17:58) that was before (17:59) cryptocurrency existed (18:00) that was the very (18:01) beginning of (18:02) cryptocurrency (18:02) cryptocurrency is (18:03) going to be the future (18:04) everyone knows that (18:06) or they don't know that (18:07) and they need to know that (18:08) now (18:09) whether (18:10) it takes the form (18:11) of bitcoin (18:11) or these other (18:12) cryptocurrencies (18:13) is a different story (18:14) but cryptocurrency (18:14) is not going (18:15) anywhere (18:15) social media (18:16) is not going (18:17) anywhere (18:17) computers (18:18) are not going (18:19) anywhere (18:19) AI is not (18:20) going anywhere (18:21) if you don't understand (18:23) these things (18:23) and learn about them (18:25) you are in so much (18:26) fucking trouble (18:26) and I'm saying it (18:27) because I care (18:29) a little heavy at the end here (18:30) but (18:31) it's facts though (18:32) you gotta be proactive (18:33) otherwise you're gonna end up (18:35) by the way (18:35) self driving trucks (18:36) if you're a truck driver (18:37) eventually (18:38) all trucks (18:39) will be self driving

Kevin Palmieri

(18:40) all of them (18:41) when my car was in the shop (18:42) the car they gave me (18:43) had (18:44) self driving (18:44) and I was like (18:45) I can see it (18:46) did you try it? (18:47) I can see the allure did you try it?(18:49) yeah of course it's the best yeah it was nice on the highway for sure I don't like it a boot town a boot I don't like it a boot town but on the highway did I send you I didn't send you the FaceTime thing? (19:01) you didn't send me the FaceTime thing damn alright what's speaking of being proactive we have to proactively get to our next episode what is your takeaway?

Alan Lazaros

(19:08) mine is (19:10) challenge yourself (19:10) to think about the decade (19:12) like really (19:13) really plan (19:14) your decade out (19:14) it's called (19:15) the 10 year roadmap (19:15) you don't have to be (19:16) crazy specific (19:17) but you gotta know (19:19) I do something called (19:20) the next level wealth builder (19:21) where we go through (19:22) everyone's careers (19:22) and (19:23) one of my clients (19:24) literally said (19:25) how in the hell (19:26) she grossed over (19:27) $800,000 (19:28) but she (19:29) has nothing to show for it (19:31) and she's like (19:31) I can't believe it (19:32) where did that all go? (19:34) well (19:35) you weren't proactive (19:37) you didn't invest (19:38) any of it (19:38) it's not my fault (19:40) right (19:40) you (19:41) you didn't learn (19:41) finance (19:42) your parents didn't teach you (19:43) your educators (19:44) you didn't take school (19:45) seriously (19:45) your fault (19:46) it's on you (19:46) and at the end of the day (19:48) no one's gonna come (19:49) and save you (19:50) you gotta zoom out (19:50) and be proactive (19:51) with your life (19:52) and that's why (19:52) I couldn't answer (19:53) that question (19:53) because all this (19:54) was inside of me (19:54) and I was like (19:55) oh no (19:55) here we go (19:56) I dig it

Kevin Palmieri

(19:57) I dig it (19:58) look (19:59) I feel like (20:00) everybody has (20:01) a little bit (20:01) of a different journey (20:02) and I appreciate

Alan Lazaros

(20:03) if you thought (20:04) I wasn't proactive (20:04) that means (20:05) no one thinks (20:05) I

Kevin Palmieri

(20:06) that is a fact

Alan Lazaros

(20:08) really? (20:09) oh yeah (20:09) 100%

Kevin Palmieri

(20:11) yeah (20:12) 100%

Alan Lazaros

(20:14) proactive means (20:15) preparing and planning (20:16) for the future (20:16) right (20:17) I might be doing that (20:18) more than anyone knows

Kevin Palmieri

(20:19) a future that (20:21) everybody can see though (20:23) again it's like (20:24) let's say (20:25) you go to the movies (20:25) right (20:26) you go to the movies (20:27) and it's just a shit movie (20:28) worst movie of all time (20:29) one (20:30) one on the tomato beater (20:33) and you're talking (20:34) to the director (20:35) behind the scenes (20:35) and he's like (20:36) oh I don't (20:38) I don't even care (20:39) about this one (20:40) I'm going to make (20:41) 6 sequels (20:42) 7th one (20:43) the greatest movie (20:43) of all time (20:44) people are going (20:45) to be like (20:45) dude (20:45) you need to go (20:46) lay down

Alan Lazaros

(20:47) you know what (20:47) you need to do (20:48) is go see (20:49) James Cameron's (20:49) first movie (20:50) well

Kevin Palmieri

(20:51) Steven Spielberg's (20:52) first movie (20:52) was when he was (20:53) a little kid (20:53) it was atrocious (20:54) but I (20:55) but I (20:55) but (20:55) nobody knows those (20:57) number one (20:58) they know Jaws (20:58) and E.T. and Avatar (20:59) and Titanic (21:00) the greatest movie (21:01) ever made (21:01) of all time (21:01) obviously (21:02) but it's the same (21:03) exact principle man

Alan Lazaros

(21:04) go listen to (21:05) you and I went (21:06) and watched (21:06) Joe Rogan's (21:07) first podcast (21:08) do you remember that (21:08) yeah (21:09) what did you think of it (21:10) it was garbage (21:11) how bad (21:12) 0 to 10 (21:13) 10 (21:13) 10 garbage (21:15) 10 garbage (21:15) most successful (21:16) podcaster in history

Kevin Palmieri

(21:17) you can go watch (21:18) our old stuff (21:19) it's garbage (21:21) it's garbage (21:21) but it's out there (21:22) for a reason (21:22) do you think

Alan Lazaros

(21:23) he was proactive (21:25) and was like (21:25) hey let's (21:26) make this better (21:27) maybe not (21:28) I think there's

Kevin Palmieri

(21:29) a difference (21:29) between that (21:31) and (21:34) looking a certain way (21:36) knowing it (21:37) looks a certain way (21:38) I think (21:38) at that point (21:39) he thought (21:39) he was doing (21:41) the best he could (21:43) I think (21:44) it's different

Alan Lazaros

(21:45) no

Kevin Palmieri

(21:45) yes

Alan Lazaros

(21:47) you think (21:47) that was the best (21:48) he could do (21:49) I think that's (21:50) the best he could do (21:50) at the time (21:51) yeah (21:51) it's a unique to me (21:52) thing (21:52) future by design (21:53) you design it (21:54) in advance (21:55) right (21:55) it's always a shit show (21:56) when you're building (21:56) the house (21:56) but the plans (21:57) look nice (21:58) and then you (21:58) build the house (21:58) it's a shit show

Kevin Palmieri

(21:59) and then eventually (22:00) it's done (22:00) but it starts (22:00) with the plans (22:01) the blueprint (22:02) is the awareness (22:03) if you don't (22:04) have the blueprint (22:05) you're just (22:05) hammering shit (22:06) what the fuck (22:07) that looks good (22:07) I don't know (22:08) well I do have a blueprint (22:09) I do have (22:10) I don't (22:12) for humanoids (22:13) I'll be boxing (22:14) the shit out of that thing (22:15) no (22:16) you will

Alan Lazaros

(22:17) you know what I mean (22:18) that'll be (22:18) how you trade martial arts (22:19) you'll put it in easy mode (22:20) and then (22:21) have it knock you out (22:22) alright robo (22:23) let's get some rounds in (22:24) you know it (22:25) let's get some rounds in (22:26) you think you're joking (22:28) 100% that will happen (22:29) I'm not even joking (22:30) now maybe (22:31) you won't do that (22:31) on principle (22:32) but (22:32) it's going to happen

Kevin Palmieri

(22:34) that's the only reason

Alan Lazaros

(22:34) fighters will (22:35) use that as a tool (22:36) to improve

Kevin Palmieri

(22:37) what a wild time to be alive (22:38) alright we gotta get out of here (22:39) Alan's coaching (22:40) you already mentioned it (22:41) a little bit in here (22:42) next level podcast accelerator (22:43) podcast growth (22:44) sorry podcast growth nation (22:45) next level (22:45) next level nation (22:47) my goodness (22:48) monthly (22:50) masterclasses (22:50) book club (22:50) there's a bunch of stuff (22:52) so if you are (22:53) somebody who wants to get (22:54) to the next level (22:55) we most likely have (22:56) an option for you (22:57) whether it's a paid one (22:58) or a free one (22:59) nextleveluniverse.com (23:00) is the website (23:00) has it all

Alan Lazaros

(23:03) if you want to be more proactive (23:04) and you want to do (23:05) here's what we'll do (23:06) 10 year roadmap (23:07) I've done this dozens of times (23:09) if not hundreds (23:10) we will get clear (23:11) on the future you want (23:12) and I will help you (23:14) create a roadmap (23:15) to get there (23:16) and I'll make sure (23:17) that it's reasonable too (23:18) I'm not gonna (23:19) like I'll be honest (23:20) with you about (23:20) whether or not (23:21) I think it's doable (23:22) within a decade (23:23) you gotta keep it reasonable (23:24) you can't say (23:25) I wanna make up (23:26) I'm at zero dollars (23:27) and I wanna be a billionaire (23:28) in a decade (23:29) like it's not gonna happen

Kevin Palmieri

(23:30) and if you have (23:31) if you're having a bad day (23:31) just imagine me (23:33) practicing martial arts (23:34) with a humanoid robot (23:35) getting knocked out (23:36) because that most likely (23:37) is what would happen (23:37) for sure (23:38) then me riding it (23:39) around the house (23:40) like a small horse (23:41) that'd be pretty cool too (23:43) real quick (23:44) I have a nickname (23:45) for one of our cats (23:46) I call him J.R. Cabello (23:47) because he runs (23:48) like a little horse (23:49) nice (23:50) yeah it's the cutest (23:50) thing ever (23:51) alright Swarm (23:51) Fudge (23:52) as always we love you (23:53) we appreciate you (23:54) grateful for each (23:55) and every one of you (23:55) and if you are as committed (23:56) as you say you are (23:57) to getting to the next level (23:59) make sure you tune in (24:00) tomorrow (24:00) because we will be here (24:01) to help you get there

Alan Lazaros

(24:02) keep reaching (24:03) for your full potential (24:04) next elimination

Kevin Palmieri

(24:07) thanks for joining us (24:09) for another episode (24:10) of Next Level University (24:11) we love connecting (24:13) with the Next Level family

Alan Lazaros

(24:14) we mean it (24:15) when we say family (24:16) if you ever need anything (24:17) please reach out (24:18) to us directly (24:19) everything you need (24:20) to get a hold of us (24:21) is in the show notes (24:23) thank you again

Kevin Palmieri

(24:24) and we will talk (24:25) to you tomorrow