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You Can Never Get TOO High… (2217)
In this raw and powerful episode of Next Level University, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros break down what emotional control really looks like when the highs are high and the lows cut deep. They reveal why staying neutral is the ultimate power move for success, relationships, and self-mastery. If you’ve ever celebrated too soon or crumbled too fast, this one will hit home. It’s time to stop chasing emotional highs and start building unshakable strength. Tune in and level up today.
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Show notes:
(3:13) Building neutrality before success comes
(6:18) When confidence turns into cockiness
(9:42) Protecting focus from external chaos
(13:06) Finding the sweet spot of humility and confidence
(17:28) Self-regulation as the meta skill for success
(19:25) Outro
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Kevin Palmieri
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One of my favorite habits when I am riding too high or too low emotionally is I reflect.
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You've heard me talk about that many, many, many times.
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And the reason I reflect is because I want to get back to neutral because I understand, yes, having a little celebration is not a bad thing.
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But if you take that celebration too far, you lose all the habits that brought that.
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And yeah, you're going to have some shitty days where things crash and burn, but that doesn't mean everything is crashing and burning.
Alan Lazaros
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I read a book once called The Untethered Soul, and I think that there's some valuable insights in it, but I also think you have to stay grounded.
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I think it's both.
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Welcome to Next Level University.
Kevin Palmieri
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I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri.
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And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.
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At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.
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We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.
Alan Lazaros
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Self-improvement in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free.
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Welcome to Next Level University.
Kevin Palmieri
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Next Level Nation today for episode number 2217, you can never get too high, and we're not talking about smoking pot.
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We're talking about emotional regulation.
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We got several new clients over at NLPS this week.
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Nice.
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Next Level Podcast Solutions, for those of you who don't know.
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Yes, for those of you who don't know, which is fine.
Alan Lazaros
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If you want to start, grow, scale, or monetize your podcast, Kevin's your guy.
Kevin Palmieri
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68 clients.
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Nice.
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68 podcasts.
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Let's go.
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And many of those podcasts have multiple people, which is always interesting.
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So we're working with a lot of podcasters.
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Group Coaching has 11 people.
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So we're working with a lot of podcasters right now.
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Yes.
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Another time.
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Another time.
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I, and this is the hard part about all this, okay?
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So this is all, I want to make sure it's not a blanket statement.
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I celebrate getting new clients almost not at all now.
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I'll walk out into the hallway or the living room in the kitchen, and I'll go to Taryn and say, new client, and we'll do shit with slap hands.
Alan Lazaros
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Nice.
Kevin Palmieri
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But in the back in the day, it was new client, I'm going to get dinner, and I'm going to celebrate.
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And I'm not even saying that's bad.
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I think that's probably good at the beginning.
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And I also would have days where I lost a client where it was literally the end of the fucking world.
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And those were not productive, constructive ways to live.
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I am understanding at a deeper level now, I would like to do a money episode at some point.
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And one of the thoughts I have is people will say, well, it's easy for you to say, because you have blank money, a relationship, whatever it is.
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How do you develop this before you have the results that force you to develop this type of emotional neutrality, for lack of better phrasing?
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That's my question I pose to you.
Alan Lazaros
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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When you say this, you're referring to staying centered, not getting too emotionally high or too emotionally low.
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Yes.
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Neutral.
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Neutral is my thought.
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You know, this is what stoicism is built on.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So stoicism is essentially, you don't celebrate every time something goes well, but you also don't shut down for an entire weekend every time you lose a client.
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Right.
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And the truth of the matter is, and we've all been in this moment.
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It's like when you're in the gym.
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Well, when did this happen?
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Two days ago.
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You know how you hit flow and you feel like a million bucks sometimes?
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And you get cocky.
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You throw on more weight than you should.
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This, this happened to me.
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I was feeling, I was feeling good.
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I carved up in the morning.
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I slept well.
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This was a few weeks ago.
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And I'm, I was in a bowl too.
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So I was almost too tense.
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I was getting, I don't want to use fat anymore.
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I think that's the wrong word.
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I was getting fluffy, we'll say on purpose, on purpose.
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And I was like, I'm going to fucking, I'm going to put on the weight.
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And I was like, Amelia spot, you know, this means spot.
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We just do a full hand.
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And so she comes over to spot me.
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I've got, and I did, I warmed up with 135 and then I jumped right to what lift are we talking about here?
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Bench press.
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Okay.
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Regular barbell bench press.
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Okay.
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Bench press.
Kevin Palmieri
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So 45, 25, 10, 45, 20, 45 and 35.
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That would be 205 where I come from.
Alan Lazaros
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205.
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And by the way, this is a unique thing about me.
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I just want to share this for a second.
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Cause now I understand it's like, well, you don't math, but I don't do it in math.
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You always know the actual 225, 205.
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For me, I know it based on the plates.
Kevin Palmieri
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I got to know the number.
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Why?
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Cause that's how you get to the thousand pound club, baby.
Alan Lazaros
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Yeah.
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That's the perception thing.
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I'm realizing that to me, that's cognitive labor that I don't care about.
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Cause to me it's, I remember 45, 25, 10 on each side.
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For me, that's, that's something that's, I never said out loud, but everyone always knows their number.
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It's like, Oh, is it 205, 225?
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How much do you bench?
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It's like, I, I look at the plates and the other, the other part is if you're trapped, like depending on what app you use, you've got to put in, you have to track the number of weights.
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Yeah.
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Agreed.
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Which I don't, I do all that in my head.
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So I think that's unique as well.
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But anyways, so I went from 135 to 205 with like right in between.
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And I was like, I'm going to hit this for five.
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And I got three and Amelia was so scared and I just didn't do it.
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It was one of those bad lifts.
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I just was like, that's the way to explain it.
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I just didn't do it.
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I just couldn't fucking put this weight up.
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Cause normally I build up to that and I get momentum and I'm feeling good.
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This time I was like, fuck it.
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Let's start there.
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Worst idea ever.
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So my point of this is I got too emotionally high.
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I was in a, I was, I hit pre-workout.
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I was feeling good.
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I had high self-esteem.
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I just was feeling it in the moment.
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And, and Stephen Coller, you're reading the art of impossible.
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He says, when you're in flow, you get all the best brain chemicals.
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You just get this chemical brain cocktail of greatness.
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It's awesome.
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It's like when you're surfing or snowboarding or whatever, or you're in the gym and you're feeling it, you're in the zone.
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You think you're superhuman.
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You feel superhuman.
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It's like, fuck it.
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It's a great idea.
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And then you do it and you realize this is a terrible idea.
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Why did I do that?
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I've been there.
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And so I think it's very immature to be way too high or way too low when little things happen.
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And I'm not trying to be unkind about this, but there's actual practicality and utility in this.
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So how do you develop the skill?
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It really comes down to you practice it.
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Here's the problem.
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You're not going to practice it unless you need to practice it.
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So for example, let's say, okay, this is going to be hard for me to share, but I want to share it.
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We were on the road and Kevin wanted to go get dinner to celebrate.
Kevin Palmieri
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And to me, there was nothing to fucking celebrate.
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First of all, we were not on the road.
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We were in Malibu on the Pacific, the Pacific coast highway.
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One of the most beautiful places I had ever been.
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That's that was context.
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Okay.
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We got burritos from a fucking food truck.
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Excellent.
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They were excellent burritos.
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They were excellent.
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But to me, what, what the fuck are we celebrating?
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We're not successful.
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I'll give you, I'll tell you exactly what we're celebrating.
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We're celebrating a reality that I never knew I could experience.
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Okay.
Alan Lazaros
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Well, I'm sorry that I lessened.
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No, no, it's okay.
(7:50)
So, no, but at the end of the day, to me, it's like, congratulations, but this is not successful, but if you lost the biggest client ever, it doesn't affect you almost at all.
Kevin Palmieri
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So it's like, uh, less than most, I'd say less than, yeah, for sure.
(8:06)
No, it's true.
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It's true.
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I don't think I get very, you don't, it's just like, oh, all right, let's go get more clients now.
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Okay.
Alan Lazaros
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I want to share this and this is a success podcast.
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So I get to share this stuff.
(8:18)
Now there's something called your Lotus of control.
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And I, I, I think that I I've been practicing this for my entire adult life.
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I try really hard not to let things outside of my control affect my emotional state.
(8:34)
And I work really, really hard on that.
(8:36)
We've talked about that in the past.
(8:38)
Like, listen, a lot of bad things are going on in the world right now.
(8:41)
Like a lot and social media and media outlets are constantly perpetuating gloom and doom constantly.
(8:50)
If you let that affect you, you're not going to be able to be optimistic and confident and intelligent.
(8:59)
Your cognitive function is declining when you fill your mind with a bunch of nonsense.
(9:07)
If you're a business owner out there and or a dream chaser, you kind of have to focus on your goals more than anything else.
(9:15)
And you and I playfully joked in the last episode, it's like you were more sitting around waiting for Marshall Mathers to drop the album album, drop the album.
(9:24)
And I playfully joked, listen, I waited for avatar two for 10 years, but I wasn't actually sitting around waiting.
(9:31)
I I'm not, I've studied James Cameron's career.
(9:33)
I've studied avatar, I've studied film, but I don't, I don't study that more than my own company, my own career, my own business, my own super common though.
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That's super common.
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I know.
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I know.
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And, but unfortunately that like, if you're super high, when, when avatar three is coming out in December, I'm super pumped.
(9:53)
I can't wait.
(9:54)
It's going to be great, but I'm not going to like do less until then.
(9:58)
And then do more after I, you can't be successful and be an emotional child children.
(10:05)
And I did this, you'd be super pumped about something.
(10:08)
And then you scream into your pillow, not two hours later, like you can't be like that as a professional.
(10:14)
This is my, he can't get super pumped when you win and then super down.
(10:18)
When you lose, you have to learn how to, how to take it all in stride.
Kevin Palmieri
(10:21)
I think as long as you know how to do it.
(10:24)
So I was thinking to myself, what's the difference between somebody who hits their first home run in the little league.
(10:30)
And then somebody who goes on to be like a professional baseball player who hits 50 home runs a year.
(10:34)
Like they don't celebrate every home run the same.
(10:36)
I'm sure Tom Brady's a great example.
(10:39)
He threw a lot of touchdown passes.
(10:40)
He didn't celebrate all of them the same.
(10:42)
Of course.
(10:43)
Right.
(10:44)
I'm sure the first super, super bowl meant a lot more than so.
(10:48)
I think that's, that's the point is as, as it becomes more normal, you by definition, it's going to affect you differently in both a positive and a negative thing.
Alan Lazaros
(11:01)
I think this is why the not give a shit attitude comes off as status for sure.
(11:08)
I think it's, so for example, you know, we had a, I don't know, last month was probably 35,000 or something, something like that.
(11:20)
I don't know.
(11:20)
You'd know the number better than I.
(11:21)
Yeah.
(11:22)
And I should know the exact number to be honest with you.
(11:24)
I do.
(11:25)
It's over here in my spreadsheet, but I'm not going to pull it up.
(11:27)
The point is, is like, okay, cool.
(11:31)
Like let's, that sounds cool.
(11:33)
It's like a flex to, yeah, I made 35 grand and I, whatever it's in an a hundred thousand dollar month.
(11:38)
Like I didn't celebrate almost at all because I don't, it's not about that for me, but that's not a flex of, I don't give a shit.
(11:45)
I care deeply about that.
(11:46)
As a matter of fact, my actions every day is what led to that.
(11:50)
So I think in the social world, I think a lot of people pretend they don't give a shit about their wins or their losses because it comes off like that's your normal.
(12:01)
When in reality, I think I'm, I'm the opposite behind the scenes.
(12:05)
I take everything very seriously, very, very, like when I, if we weren't on camera, I would, I mean, I am, we have seven minutes and four seconds, dude, I'm going to have a timer the moment we're done.
(12:16)
And I'm, I'm always timing every I'm behind the scenes.
(12:21)
I'm way more intense than I am on this fucking show.
(12:22)
Now I think most people are the opposite.
(12:25)
I think when they're in the social world, they pretend to be like intense and tenacious and courageous.
(12:33)
And I don't really give a shit.
(12:34)
This is normal for me.
(12:36)
But then behind the scenes, I think they struggle and they're actually not very confident.
(12:39)
But this whole thing is basically make sure that the social world and the real world are not affecting you to the point where you can't be effective.
(12:50)
Like if Tom Brady thinks he's going to win the game, the moment he hits a touchdown pass, he's going to lose focus.
(12:58)
You have to stay in the sweet spot.
(12:59)
You have to stay humble enough to know you could fucking lose, but confident enough to that you're going to win and it's, you have to stay in the sweet spot.
(13:06)
And right now I feel like I'm in the sweet spot.
(13:08)
I'm, I'm pumped that we're doing well, but I'm also not like going to get cocky about it.
(13:13)
I think, I think that not to mention who cares, like let's go to the next level.
(13:17)
I don't care about it.
Kevin Palmieri
(13:18)
But I, yeah, that's the, that's always the thing is I understand if you, I think it's directly connected to how surprised you are at what happens.
Alan Lazaros
(13:25)
Yeah.
Kevin Palmieri
(13:26)
Every day when I wake up, I literally opened my WhatsApp and my email saying, all right, who's leaving today every day.
(13:32)
And I'm not saying that's healthy.
(13:34)
Every time I'm on a call with someone, it's like, Oh, this is a per, this person's a potential client.
(13:39)
If they want to work with us, I did, I did a, I did two breakthrough sessions.
(13:44)
They were very much sales calls.
(13:45)
Like they literally said they wanted to work with us.
(13:47)
And I told Taryn, I was like, we're probably going to get two new clients today.
(13:50)
So I expected it, but I also expect, you know, once a month, somebody's going to leave or whatever.
(13:56)
I'm going to get a message of like, can we try something new?
(13:59)
This isn't working.
(14:00)
Or, Hey, we dropped the ball on something.
(14:03)
I think it's directly connected to that.
(14:05)
If you get up, if you're the worst player on the team, quote unquote, and you're the one who hits a grand slam, everybody's going to celebrate the shit out of you.
Alan Lazaros
(14:12)
I know.
(14:13)
Everybody's going to celebrate the shit out of you.
Kevin Palmieri
(14:15)
But if you're the best quarterback that your school's ever seen and you throw an interception, nobody's going to feel bad for you.
(14:20)
Like fucking deal with it.
(14:21)
They're just going to be pissed at you.
(14:22)
They're going to be pissed at you because they expect more.
(14:25)
And there's something to that.
(14:26)
In my opinion, I think if you just got your first client, fuck yeah.
(14:30)
Celebrate, celebrate, celebrate, celebrate.
(14:32)
Don't celebrate to the point where it takes you off the rails and don't celebrate to the point where you're convinced you're the shit and you never have to do this again.
(14:38)
You essentially have to do this every day slash week for however long you would be successful.
(14:43)
If you just lost the client, go and lick your wounds, lick your wounds.
(14:48)
It's not the end.
(14:49)
It doesn't mean you can't be successful.
(14:51)
It doesn't mean you're terrible.
(14:53)
It doesn't mean you don't know anything.
(14:55)
It doesn't mean any of those things.
(14:56)
It means this didn't work out.
(14:58)
If we go, if we take a level 10 response to a level two emotion that feels like a 10 on either end, we're sabotaging ourselves.
Alan Lazaros
(15:07)
We did an episode not long ago on success is a process, not a destination.
Kevin Palmieri
(15:13)
Yeah.
Alan Lazaros
(15:15)
But you have to choose a destination in advance in order to figure out what process to do.
(15:20)
I always playfully joke.
(15:21)
It's like if you want to win an Olympic gold medal in swimming, don't go golfing.
(15:26)
You know, six days a week, maybe once a week, swim the other, the other six.
(15:31)
So the process has to be reverse engineered from the outcome you want in advance.
(15:36)
But it is a process.
(15:37)
And I think that what this is saying, don't get so high or so low that you can't do the process.
(15:45)
And that's really what it comes down to.
(15:47)
It's, do you remember Lynn Sanity way back?
(15:49)
It's a, okay.
(15:50)
So in the NBA, there was a guy named Jeremy Lynn, who was from Harvard.
(15:54)
And he, he just had this run where he was unbelievable.
(15:59)
And it's just interesting to me because I remember everyone was going nuts of Lynn Sanity and Jeremy Lynn and all.
(16:05)
It's like, he's not even that good.
(16:06)
I don't, he's better than people.
(16:08)
He was off the bench.
(16:09)
He was better than people expected.
(16:11)
Right.
(16:11)
And so expectations are so dangerous and it's hard for us as human beings to mitigate that.
(16:19)
What's a good example of this?
(16:20)
This is why I do disclaimers.
(16:22)
I have a disclaimer flashcard right here.
(16:24)
No one is 100% right or 100% wrong about anything.
(16:27)
What matters is what is optimal for you.
(16:30)
We are here to reach our full potential and to create an updated and more accurate understanding of ourselves, others in the world.
(16:35)
If you are not here to get better, please leave now.
(16:38)
I basically say this before book club and before the masterclasses, because I want to set expectations.
(16:44)
Like if you're, I say this in book club all the time now and masterclasses, if you're in a bad emotional state, fucking leave.
(16:50)
This is not going to be good for you.
(16:52)
I'm not going to, this, we are here to look at where we suck.
(16:57)
Why?
(16:57)
So we can get better.
(16:58)
We're not here to celebrate how great we are.
(17:00)
What a fucking useless endeavor that is.
(17:02)
I, to me, if you think you're great at this level, seriously, you need some humility.
(17:09)
You, the people that are the best in the world at what they do, never think they're the greatest.
(17:14)
They, they know that they're statistically better than most, but they never put themselves in a place where it's like, if you get cocky, it's happened to me so many times.
(17:22)
If you get cocky, you're, you're fucked.
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But if you also are down and out, every time you take an L you're also screwed.
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So it all depends on where you're at.
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And I think self regulation is a sub skill meta skill that is necessary for success, because you're going to get knocked on your ass.
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There was a time last week on the road trip where dude, I, this hasn't happened to me in a year and a half.
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I could not get out of bed.
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We drove like 14 fucking hours the day before after I coached until two.
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So I coached last Saturday, not last Saturday, but Saturday before from like, I don't know, 10 to probably two 30.
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Then we had to finish packing the car left at three from three.
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We got all the way to Virginia.
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I want to say, and we stayed there and then we had to unpack the car.
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We had to get, and then I had to get up the next day and coach.
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I had a noon, right?
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And I do, I do have to pop in a minute just to quiet.
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Got it.
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Yeah.
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Nice.
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I had a noon coaching session.
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I messaged the client.
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I said, Hey, is there any chance tomorrow at the same time worked better?
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And that's the first time I've had to move a coaching session in a year and a half, but I could not get out of bed.
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I was cooked after that.
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That was very humbling.
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And so you have to find a way to pull yourself back out of a negative state.
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I had the doom and gloom and all the, I'm the worst and all that stuff.
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I had to pull myself back out.
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But when you win after the a hundred K month or whatever it is, you can't get cocky either.
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So you have to stay centered and that's, that's a skill neutral.
Kevin Palmieri
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I like neutral.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's look, it's going to swing back and forth.
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It swings less and less and less.
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The more you do the thing.
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That's, that is my thing.
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I remember getting a client back in the day would change my life.
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It still changes my life today, just in a much different way.
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Losing a client would be the world.
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It still is the end of the world, just in a much different way.
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Still sucks.
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And it's still great.
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It's just not going to knock me off the course of what I'm supposed to do for that day.
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Okay, cool.
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Have the link in the show notes.
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As always, we love you.
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We appreciate you grateful for each and every one of you.
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And if you are as dedicated as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here to help you get there.
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Keep reaching for your full potential.
Alan Lazaros
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Next level nation.
Kevin Palmieri
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Thanks for joining us for another episode of next level university.
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And we will talk to you tomorrow.