Why Most People Suck At Success (Seriously) (2228)

Success fights your nature, so win the battle within. In today’s episode, Kevin and Alan expose why the human brain is wired to resist success and how to push past comfort when everything in you wants to quit. From midnight wake-ups to brutal sacrifices, they share the unfiltered truth about what it actually takes to build something extraordinary. If you’ve ever felt like success was harder than it should be, this episode will light a fire under your mindset. Stop craving easy, and train yourself to do what comfort never will.

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Show notes:
(1:18) The late-night story that says it all
(5:29) The brain isn’t built for growth
(8:02) Suffering is the price of fulfillment
(12:15) The real cost of big goals
(16:06) Why long-term thinking wins
(19:06) Nothing gets better by accident
(21:34) Outro

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Chapters

• 1:18 The late-night story that says it all
• 5:29 The brain isn’t built for growth
• 8:02 Suffering is the price of fulfillment
• 12:15 The real cost of big goals
• 16:06 Why long-term thinking wins
• 19:06 Nothing gets better by accident
• 21:34 Outro

Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) What if I told you that most people suck at success because being successful is quite literally the opposite of what the human condition was designed for?

Alan Lazaros

(0:10) Yeah, in boot camp, you are trained to do the opposite of self-preservation. (0:14) How do you take 18-year-olds and train them to go into battle instead of running away? (0:19) I think success is, I think it's a good metaphor.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:22) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:24) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:26) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.(0:29) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no-BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

(1:05) Welcome to Next Level University. (1:10) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2,228. (1:15) Don't get mad at us, or you can, but channel that anger into progress.(1:18) Why most people suck at success. (1:22) Okay, last night, Alan and I recorded until... (1:26) What time was it last night?(1:29) 7.20. So we recorded until 7.20. I got a message from a client at like 5.30, I couldn't really do anything with it because we were planning on recording. (1:38) We finished, I downloaded our files, I uploaded our files, I went into the bedroom and I said to Taryn, I said, I'm either going to have to do one of two things. (1:46) I'm going to have to stay up until midnight, or I'm going to have to get up at 4.(1:51) I don't know what to do. (1:53) And then I went and walked to the kitchen and I thought about it. (1:55) Then I came back and I said, I have a better idea.(1:58) I'm going to go to bed at a normal time, and then I'm going to get up at midnight. (2:02) Perfect. (2:03) And then I'll check on what I need to check on.(2:06) So we had a client launch their podcast today. (2:09) We needed some quick edits. (2:12) One of our team members was going to do it.(2:14) They're in a different time zone. (2:15) I messaged them and said, hey, can we do these? (2:18) If not, I'll do them myself.(2:19) But I knew I was not going to get a response from them until at least midnight our time. (2:24) It's kind of a shitty place to be because I don't know what's going to happen. (2:29) So I had this moment.(2:30) So midnight our time is noon their time. (2:32) Midnight our time. (2:33) No, so this is somebody else.(2:35) 9 a.m. their time. (2:37) Okay. (2:37) Nine hours ahead.(2:38) Nine hours ahead. (2:39) But I literally was just fucking sad. (2:43) I was just so sad that I just couldn't go to bed and sleep through the night.(2:48) I was so sad. (2:50) I'm sorry. (2:51) It's okay.(2:51) My alarm. (2:53) So I said, I set an alarm for 12.03 a.m. And 12.05 a.m. slept right through. (2:59) Right through.(3:01) Woke up in a panic at 1.20. Look at my watch. (3:06) 1.20. Shit. (3:07) 1.20 a.m. So only an hour later.

Alan Lazaros

(3:10) The reason I laugh real quick. (3:11) Yeah, please. (3:12) Because when you're suffering, you get really funny.(3:15) That's my coping mechanism.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:17) 100 percent. (3:17) That's the other thing. (3:18) We didn't talk about this in the trauma response thing.(3:20) The more overwhelmed I get, the funnier I usually get. (3:22) Because I just try to take things. (3:24) If I take things as serious as I feel them.(3:27) That's not. (3:28) That's a recipe for disaster. (3:29) So I try to make things funny.

Alan Lazaros

(3:30) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:30) This is a lot of comedians have a lot of trauma. (3:33) Trauma. (3:33) Yeah, they do.(3:34) So. (3:35) They make fun of it. (3:36) Because it's.(3:37) Sometimes you got to. (3:38) So I wake up. (3:39) 1.20. Go out. (3:41) Grab my phone. (3:41) My phone's never in the bedroom. (3:43) Get a message from the person.(3:45) Cool Kev. (3:46) Boom, boom, boom. (3:47) Awesome.(3:47) I respond. (3:48) Any questions? (3:49) Anything you need from me?(3:50) Any questions? (3:51) They needed a couple things. (3:52) So I come into the office at 1.20 in the morning. (3:55) Turn my laptop on. (3:57) It blinds me. (3:58) Because it's all.(3:59) The brightness is all the way up. (4:00) I got to turn that bad Larry down. (4:02) I send them the things that they need.(4:03) I say, are we good to go? (4:04) Yep. (4:05) Absolutely.(4:05) Awesome. (4:05) Appreciate you. (4:06) You're the best.(4:07) And then I try to go back to bed. (4:09) If you've ever woken up in the middle of the night. (4:11) Or early in the morning.(4:12) And gone and looked directly at your phone. (4:14) You're not going to bed. (4:15) You're not going back to bed.(4:16) That's not going to fucking happen. (4:17) So I laid there for a while. (4:19) Tossed and turned.(4:20) Eventually I fell asleep. (4:22) Alarm went off at 6. (4:23) I said absolutely fucking not.(4:25) Not a chance. (4:25) We're doing this today. (4:27) Slept until 8.(4:28) Now I feel terrible. (4:29) Because I didn't go to the gym. (4:30) And I don't have time to go to the gym.(4:31) And now I feel like shit about it. (4:34) All of that to be said. (4:36) That's why most people aren't successful.(4:38) Because that sucks. (4:39) And that's not the only time I've done that. (4:42) I do stuff like that all the time.(4:43) Unfortunately. (4:44) And it sucks. (4:45) I think as.(4:47) If we want to stay safe. (4:48) And we want to stay certain. (4:50) And we want to have a level of self-preservation.(4:53) Your mind is going to say. (4:55) Honestly. (4:55) Fuck this.(4:56) This isn't worth it. (4:57) It's not worth it. (4:58) And if you ever get to the place where it doesn't feel worth it.(5:01) You're probably not going to do the thing necessary to. (5:03) To maintain that. (5:04) So that is my early thesis in this episode.(5:07) Most people suck at success. (5:08) Because success is quite literally the opposite of what we were designed to do. (5:12) And so many of the things that we.(5:15) So many of the things that we once had to do to be quote-unquote successful. (5:19) You don't you don't really have to build your own house anymore. (5:21) And you don't have to hunt for your own food.(5:22) And it's kind of taken care of. (5:24) So if you want to stay certain. (5:26) You're most likely going to stay stuck to a certain degree.

Alan Lazaros

(5:29) Yeah. (5:31) What the body and brain are completely designed for. (5:35) From an evolutionary perspective.(5:38) Is safety and survival. (5:42) And once you reach a certain point. (5:44) Of success.(5:45) You don't need it for survival anymore. (5:47) Like you and I are very fortunate to be way beyond survival needs. (5:53) Like we both have enough money for food.(5:55) We have you didn't need to do what you did last night. (5:58) And we talked about this in the last episode. (6:01) You should.(6:02) And if you want to grow this company with me. (6:05) Then you have to. (6:06) But you don't really have to do anything.(6:08) And I think that that's why people suck at success. (6:11) Is because you don't actually have to do it. (6:14) You can look at anyone at the top of any industry.(6:16) They didn't have to work that hard. (6:19) Yeah. (6:20) They really didn't.(6:21) As a matter of fact. (6:21) They if if they were focused on survival. (6:24) They shouldn't have done that.(6:25) A lot of the things we've done to get here are reckless. (6:29) And we talked about that in a previous episode too. (6:31) And in order to thrive long term.(6:35) I think that you have to do things that. (6:38) Short term are really, really, really difficult. (6:44) And I think that I don't know what.(6:52) How many difficult things have we done to get to where we are? (6:58) You've said this before. (6:59) And I don't really resonate with this.(7:01) Because I disagree with you. (7:02) But you've said it. (7:07) Okay.(7:07) So you have your own business. (7:08) You make your own schedule. (7:10) For the most part.(7:11) You work with clients all over the world. (7:14) You're the podcast guy. (7:16) We have communities and sub communities.(7:19) We are heard in 180 countries. (7:21) We have 2200 episodes. (7:22) When you're at a wedding and you get to say.(7:24) Hey, I'm a successful podcaster. (7:26) Like that's really cool. (7:27) It's really cool.(7:28) In the beginning it was terrible. (7:29) But it's cool now. (7:31) And I feel that way too.(7:33) I mean what we do is very unique and very special. (7:35) I'm very grateful. (7:38) And you say.(7:39) Trust me. (7:39) You wouldn't trade spots. (7:43) I would.(7:45) I'm certain that I'm suffering more than you. (7:48) Not right now. (7:49) Not right now.(7:50) Definitely not right now. (7:52) Based on that story. (7:54) But overall I definitely have.(7:57) To me. (7:57) I don't know. (7:58) I think suffering makes it more meaningful.(8:02) I think that if it was easy. (8:03) Everybody would do it. (8:04) I really do.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:05) But if it's too hard. (8:07) Nobody will. (8:08) That's awesome.(8:10) But that's what I'm saying. (8:11) Is that's why I say. (8:12) Like I'm telling you.(8:12) I'll say it a group coaching tonight. (8:14) The next level podcast accelerator. (8:16) You guys can have the keys.(8:17) You can take over. (8:18) You can be the producer. (8:19) You can do it all.(8:20) You can name the episodes. (8:20) You can do it. (8:21) You can coach all the clients.(8:22) Boom. (8:23) Most of you would give the keys back. (8:24) You don't want it.(8:25) You don't want it. (8:27) And because I don't think it's good for most people. (8:30) I don't think again.(8:30) I say this all the time. (8:31) I have lost pieces of myself for sure in this journey. (8:35) Because the self-preservation thing is not something I'm super focused on.(8:39) It's like eh. (8:40) Fuck it. (8:40) Whatever.(8:40) It's not that big of a deal. (8:41) I'll figure that out later. (8:42) I'll figure that out later.(8:44) But that's how most of my life was. (8:46) Yeah. (8:46) It's worth it though.(8:47) I have a deep. (8:48) I have a deep belief that it is. (8:49) Yeah.(8:50) I have a deep.

Alan Lazaros

(8:50) Because the alternative sucks. (8:52) The pain. (8:53) And there's all these motivational videos and.(8:57) They say things like pain only lasts a moment. (9:00) But. (9:01) Champion.(9:02) Or yeah. (9:03) Or regret. (9:03) No champion.(9:04) The championship lasts a lifetime. (9:06) There's some truth to that. (9:08) For sure.(9:08) Yeah. (9:09) If you suffer. (9:11) For this hour.(9:12) Of this 5k. (9:13) Or whatever it is. (9:13) Not an hour.(9:14) 20 minutes. (9:15) Then you get to know for a lifetime that you did that. (9:20) I think there's some truth to that.(9:21) I do. (9:22) I think that it's worth it. (9:24) All these awards behind me.(9:27) Most people don't love achievement as much as I do. (9:29) But every one of them took suffering. (9:31) For sure.(9:32) There's not an award up here that I didn't have to suffer and do shit other people wouldn't do. (9:35) To me. (9:36) I do.(9:37) I take pride in doing things. (9:38) No one else is willing to do. (9:40) Have you done anything that looking back wasn't worth it?(9:43) No. (9:44) Hold on. (9:44) Hold on.(9:45) Let me give that a second. (9:46) That was ego. (9:47) Absolutely not.(9:48) I'm infallible. (9:50) Is there anything? (9:51) No, I regret.(9:53) I regret pouring into relationships as much as I did though. (9:57) That's my truth is. (9:59) I wish that I had given more focus to my goals and less focus to.(10:04) Relationships that are. (10:07) Really entitled and selfish. (10:08) I think it's actually interesting to me.(10:12) How much when I look back at my past. (10:15) People they don't mean to be and I this is probably gonna come off wrong. (10:18) But like a lot of people are really self-absorbed.(10:22) And again, no one likes me with this. (10:24) But I don't give a fuck if you wish me happy birthday. (10:26) Like it's not your world doesn't revolve around me and it shouldn't.(10:29) There are bigger problems in the world whether or not you wish me happy birthday. (10:32) Like that's a very self-absorbed thing to do. (10:34) Like you didn't wish me a happy birthday.(10:38) So like why why are you entitled to that from me? (10:44) And and at the end of the day, I do get it. (10:47) People want significance.(10:48) They want to know that they're valued. (10:50) I'm holding the duality here. (10:51) But if you really break it down like that's.(10:55) It's it's like listen, you're supposed to. (11:01) Why do you feel like my most important priority should be you on some day? (11:08) Like the world doesn't revolve around you and and it shouldn't to be honest.(11:13) And I think that that's a very unique thing to me. (11:16) So past partners and friends, their expectations. (11:21) And I realize this and this will be quick.(11:22) But one of the reasons people suck at success is because they don't actually know what it really takes. (11:29) And and one of the things that I feel very misunderstood. (11:31) There's that we have a try to belong that we teach in group coaching.(11:34) And it's feeling seen, understood and valued. (11:38) And I think that if you've never really. (11:40) And I was talking to you about this off air.(11:42) We get nine minutes, we get time. (11:44) I'm looking at my calendar this week and I woke up this morning and I told him. (11:46) You know, I said, I'm I mean, this is fucking crazy.(11:50) This is I said I said this to her. (11:52) I said, I know that I I say that I'm shooting for an impossible goal. (11:57) Like the year end, I'm trying to hit a goal that I don't even think is doable by anyone.(12:01) Never mind me. (12:03) And I like that shit. (12:04) That's good.(12:05) That's like what I want to do. (12:06) I would rather go for it than not. (12:09) And it's going to be horrible, like horribly bad.(12:13) And and I know that. (12:15) But here's the problem in relationships with others. (12:19) They're going to hear me say that.(12:21) Not know what actually is going into it and then wonder why I'm not available. (12:26) And they don't mean to. (12:27) They just don't get why I'm not available.(12:29) Because for them, they have so much time and space. (12:32) I know people that like wake up and they just like, oh, what do I want to do today? (12:36) Like that ain't it for me.(12:38) I can't remember the last time I had a free hour. (12:40) It's been a long time. (12:42) So but and that's by design.(12:44) So you can't feel bad for me. (12:45) It's like, well, you chose that. (12:46) So people don't feel bad for people who choose this.(12:49) And I understand that I'm not looking for pity. (12:50) What I am looking for is some fucking understanding. (12:53) But here's the truth.(12:55) If you've never set a goal like that, you actually can't understand what it takes. (13:00) And that's really one of the reasons we suck at success is we just don't fully understand the sacrifice necessary to achieve it. (13:09) And then we from a distance, we revere people like a Tom Brady or a Kobe Bryant or whoever.(13:17) OK, I use them because people know them and because I've studied their careers. (13:21) But like, if you actually took the four days, like wake up at four, eat breakfast, go to the gym for three hours, take a nap, go to the gym again at one, take a nap, go to the gym again at four, take a nap, go to the gym again until 9 p.m. Every fucking day. (13:41) Like, if you actually lived that for even a week, you would definitely understand what it's like to do something that's never been done.(13:53) And this is the last piece of this part. (13:56) I actually want to do something that's never been done. (13:59) I'm not talking about it.(14:00) I'm not shouting it. (14:01) I wouldn't even talk about it if we weren't having this goddamn topic. (14:04) I don't even want to fucking talk about it.(14:06) I want to actually be about it. (14:08) And me being on this episode is me being about it because this is our podcast. (14:11) But I want to do something that has never been done in human history.(14:16) And I intend on that. (14:18) I'm not like shouting that talk. (14:21) No walk.(14:21) I intend on it. (14:23) Like, I will die trying. (14:25) And I think that if you don't really have that and you've never tried to do that, you can't possibly understand.(14:32) So I've really given up on the idea of being understood and valued, which is interesting because in some ways I'm being valued more. (14:38) I don't get that. (14:39) That's weird for me.(14:41) But why do people suck at success? (14:43) I think that one of the reasons is they are just very ignorant to what it actually takes. (14:48) Like you wanted to be Joe Rogan when we first met.(14:50) You're like, I want to be, you know, I want to be a podcaster like Joe Rogan. (14:53) Well, you had no fucking idea what you were actually signing up for. (14:57) And if you did, you would have not signed on the dotted line.(15:00) And I think that's the weird paradox of like, if you had known you wouldn't have done it. (15:05) But now that you're so far in, you're actually glad you did. (15:07) It's a weird thing.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:08) It is weird.

Alan Lazaros

(15:09) Explain that.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:09) I mean, I think there's a, there's something about being naive at the beginning of something that forces you to dive into water that you can't swim in yet. (15:17) But then you are like, well, I kind of like this. (15:19) So I'm going to, I want to figure out how to learn how to swim.(15:21) Then eventually you just get so used to swimming where it's like, you can't imagine doing anything else.

Alan Lazaros

(15:26) Yeah. (15:26) And then you miss it when you leave it too. (15:28) That's the weird part.(15:29) You don't miss the suffering, but you miss, it's almost like the suffering is the tax you pay to be the person you really want to be.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:37) And the fulfillment that comes with it. (15:39) I think the other thing too, you and I were talking about this and you'll have the stats way better than I, but something along the lines of the stock market has never decreased over a 20 year period. (15:50) Yeah.(15:51) So if you put money in the stock market, statistically speaking, historically speaking in 20 years, it will be worth more than it is today. (15:56) Like you will make out on that.

Alan Lazaros

(15:58) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:58) There's no 20 year period where you wouldn't have made money. (16:00) So I think that's another thing is, I mean, that is a long ass time. (16:06) That is a long ass commitment.(16:07) 20 years is a long ass commitment.

Alan Lazaros

(16:09) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:09) And I think that's one of the reasons why that's a piece of it for sure is just having the ability to say, okay, I'm going to make a 20 year plan. (16:18) And again, this is coming from a guy who is not even capable of doing that yet. (16:21) So I'm not, I'm not talking down to you on this.(16:23) This is something I'm working on for sure. (16:24) But that's a big piece of it.

Alan Lazaros

(16:27) Well, cause people think to themselves, well, what if I were, what if something were to happen 10 years from now and I couldn't enjoy the 20 year plan? (16:33) Well, if that's the case, you're not here anymore. (16:37) So you don't care.(16:39) Like people always say, what if you die tomorrow? (16:41) FOMO, not FOMO, YOLO, you know, you only live once. (16:47) Well, statistically speaking, you're not going to die tomorrow, depending on where you live.(16:52) And if you just play the numbers, like just talking about the numbers, people are weird with mortality and fate and all that. (16:57) When you just look at the numbers, you have to plan, you can't design your future. (17:03) I read it in the book recently.(17:04) I forget which one. (17:06) Thinking in bats, Annie Duke, I think she said, if I was going to die tomorrow, I would not pay my fucking taxes. (17:11) I wouldn't like, I would literally be, I wouldn't say hello to any of my acquaintances.(17:17) I wouldn't show up for work. (17:19) I wouldn't, most of what you do on a daily basis that sucks is for a bigger, better, brighter future. (17:26) Like think about if you actually only had one day left, of course, everything would be different.(17:30) I wouldn't fucking show up to this podcast, right? (17:33) Of course you can't, I can't stand stupid fucking quips like that, that are so wildly irrational. (17:41) It's like, if you only had six months to live, of course you would quit your job.(17:47) What if, okay, rent is still due in a year. (17:50) And when you're a year out and you quit your job, it's like, oh shit. (17:54) Oh shit.(17:56) James Clear has a great, great quote. (17:57) He says, uh, knock, knock. (18:00) Who's there?(18:01) Oh, the consequences of all your poor choices. (18:05) And so at the end of the day, like the time perspective piece that you just mentioned of, yeah. (18:11) I mean, if you set a 20 year goal in 20 years, you will arrive and the future will be the now.(18:17) And then you'll be like, you'll either be pumped that you planned for it or you'll be like, oh, oh, oh shit. (18:25) Oh shit. (18:27) You know, anyone who's ever had credit card debt knows that feeling.(18:30) It's like, oh shit.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:32) I thought things are going to be different. (18:34) I thought, like, I thought things were going to be different in the future. (18:36) No, they're essentially going to be the same and or worse if you don't do anything different along the way.(18:42) Again, this is one of those dumb quotes that never, it's not really, it's not logical, but it sounds good. (18:49) Five years are going to pass. (18:50) Like the next five years, if you're here, the next five years are going to pass.(18:54) You might as well use them to build. (18:56) Because they're going to go by no matter what. (18:59) What did you use to think about that?(19:01) This is a new Kev. (19:02) It still doesn't land though fully because it's like in my mind, conceptually, I understand that sounds. (19:07) Yes, that makes sense.(19:08) Why doesn't it land fully? (19:11) Because five years is a long fucking time.

Alan Lazaros

(19:12) I think about that all the time. (19:14) I think about, okay, I'm 36, I'm going to be 46, what do I want my life to look like? (19:17) Your time is 56.(19:18) What do I want my life to look like? (19:19) That takes, that takes a time perspective. (19:21) I just, five years is a really long time.(19:24) I don't know. (19:24) For most people, it's all depends. (19:26) Yeah, but for most people it is.(19:29) Yeah, for most. (19:30) Yeah, I, I understand, but it's, it's, it's all relative, but real quick. (19:35) So in 10 years, you're going to be 46.(19:39) Yeah. (19:40) So you think about like what you want your life to look like, right? (19:43) This is just like a normal thing.(19:45) And, and, and then you just go back into the present and go, oh shit.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:49) I think it's a normal thing to imagine what life is going to be like an X amount of years. (19:53) It's not a normal thing to predict and then create. (19:58) Those are two very different things.(20:00) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(20:01) I hope for everyone that your life trends up.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:04) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(20:05) That over time, like there's going to be dips and I was going to use season, you know, we're in a grind season. (20:11) Q4 is brutal so far.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:12) I feel like in the last five years it's been a grind season.

Alan Lazaros

(20:15) It's been tough. (20:16) Yeah, but it's all relative, right? (20:17) Like this is worse than usual, right?(20:19) I mean, this is bad. (20:20) I'm, I, it's all kind of mending together at this point, you know, I don't know. (20:23) Mending together.(20:25) Mending. (20:25) I don't think we're mending anything. (20:27) Kev's got a broken foot just dragging along the side.(20:31) We got to go here, but real quick, what I hope for everyone is that it trends up over time. (20:36) Yeah. (20:37) Like I would much rather you go from red to yellow to green than from green to yellow to red.(20:43) Because one of them you're losing over time, the other one you're gaining. (20:47) And that's what I think is so wonderful about you and I starting from such poor beginnings is not just poor financially, but poor in general. (20:54) Because it's just always trends up over time.(20:57) It's not hard to go up when you're, you know, start where we did.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:00) Yeah, when you start low. (21:00) Well, that, the, the last thing I'll say, the last hard truth for this is it doesn't trend up unless you make it. (21:06) Yeah.(21:06) It's most likely, things just don't get better by accident. (21:09) They just don't. (21:10) Like so many, imagine going up to a lock and saying like, ah, fuck it, I'll guess it.(21:15) And then it goes. (21:16) There's no way. (21:17) The probability of that is so low.(21:18) But if I gave you one number, you're a little bit closer. (21:22) If I said the numbers are between this and this, this and this, this and this, you're closer. (21:26) So it's not going to get better by accident.(21:29) Almost nothing does. (21:30) It just doesn't work that way unless you get super lucky. (21:32) And most of us are not super lucky.(21:34) All right, cool. (21:34) As always, we love you. (21:35) We appreciate you.(21:36) Grateful for each and every one of you. (21:37) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single day to help you get there.

Alan Lazaros

(21:44) Keep reaching for your full potential. (21:46) Next sublimation.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:48) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (21:52) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(21:55) We mean it when we say family. (21:57) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (22:00) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:04) Thank you again, and we will talk to you tomorrow.