Is “Follow Your Passion” Bad Advice? (2267)

What if “follow your passion” is the reason your self-improvement and personal development efforts keep stalling out? In this episode, Kevin and Alan break down why passion without structure leads to poor decision-making, inconsistency, and short-lived progress. They explain the deeper principles that create long-term growth, the identity-level shifts most people skip, and the real system behind sustainable success.

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Show notes:
(1:20) Kevin’s former success masking internal misalignment
(3:10) The danger of passion without strategy or math
(6:00) Presence Vs. Planning and the psychology behind both
(10:05) Why personal development must be individualized
(13:01) The passion → purpose → profit framework
(17:48) The sustainability gap most people ignore
(20:04) The five levels of mastery
(21:05) The want, love, hate framework for identifying bottlenecks
(24:12) Outro

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Chapters

• 1:20 Kevin’s former success masking internal misalignment
• 3:10 The danger of passion without strategy or math
• 6:00 Presence Vs. Planning and the psychology behind both
• 10:05 Why personal development must be individualized
• 13:01 The passion → purpose → profit framework
• 17:48 The sustainability gap most people ignore
• 20:04 The five levels of mastery
• 21:05 The want, love, hate framework for identifying bottlenecks
• 24:12 Outro

Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) Some advice that I used to talk about, I now look back on in reflection and say that was probably misleading. (0:07) And some of the advice I've been given, I feel the same way. (0:10) But today, I feel like I probably have misled you in the past, and I hope to rectify that in today's episode.(0:16) Chase your passion.

Alan Lazaros

(0:18) Sounds cool. (0:19) But it is only one third of the equation, if that. (0:23) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:25) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:27) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus. (0:30) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:37) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:43) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(0:59) Self-improvement, in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:06) Welcome to Next Level University. (1:11) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2,267 is, quote unquote, follow your passion. (1:18) Bad advice.(1:20) When you are getting into success, and you're getting into self-improvement, you're getting into personal development, you're learning about yourself, and all that, you hear, well, you gotta be passionate about what you do. (1:32) You gotta follow your passion. (1:34) And I agree.(1:36) To a certain extent. (1:37) And I think one of the reasons this is such a challenging concept is because so many of us, I'll speak from my experience, I went from a life where I looked really successful, but I was not passionate about a single thing that I did, and I freaking hated my life. (1:51) So I was all the way, you could say, zero out of ten passionate.

Alan Lazaros

(1:56) Go ahead. (1:57) For the new listeners? (1:58) Yeah.(1:59) You looked super successful. (2:01) Go ahead.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:03) In my mid-twenties, I had a six-figure income. (2:07) I was getting ready to compete in a bodybuilding show, so I was quite literally in, like, magazine shape. (2:11) I will never look that good again.(2:13) And my girlfriend at the time was a model. (2:15) So health, wealth, and love, it looked like I had a nice car, I had great friends, I was jammed. (2:19) New apartment in Boston?(2:20) Yeah, nice apartment in Boston. (2:22) All this stuff. (2:23) You couldn't possibly think I was miserable.(2:25) Yeah, you did look extremely successful.

Alan Lazaros

(2:28) I remember you at a country concert looking jacked. (2:30) I was jacked. (2:31) I dieted hard for that show.(2:32) Oh my goodness.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:33) You did a hard cut for that. (2:35) Yes, I did.

Alan Lazaros

(2:36) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:37) I dieted hard for that show.

Alan Lazaros

(2:38) Plus, dehydrated with all the alcohol. (2:40) You were ripped up, man.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:41) I was definitely as well drunk as well. (2:44) So I was ripped up and ripped up. (2:46) But I appreciate that, yeah.(2:46) What country concert was that? (2:48) I couldn't even tell you. (2:49) Don't even remember.(2:51) Couldn't even tell you. (2:52) Maybe Jason Aldean? (2:54) I saw the photos.(2:56) I remember. (2:57) It was a while ago. (2:58) Getting jacked in your early 20s is a lot easier than your mid 30s.(3:03) Alarmingly so. (3:04) Believe it or not. (3:05) But I was somebody who looked really successful, but I wasn't passionate about my job.(3:10) I convinced myself I was. (3:11) I was passionate about the money, but I wasn't passionate about my job. (3:15) Ended up having suicidal ideations.(3:17) Went through some mental health challenges. (3:20) It makes sense that I naturally said, you know what? (3:23) I found podcasting.(3:24) I'm going to go all in on this. (3:26) I am going to pursue my passion to the end of the world, even if it kills me. (3:32) But, and this is really what we want to talk about today, without strategy, without going back to what we talked about yesterday, probability and math and understanding, you can really hurt yourself by just following your passions.(3:46) But, that doesn't make for a very motivational video. (3:50) Of course I want you to live a passionate, passion-filled, purpose-driven life. (3:54) Of course I do.(3:55) But that's not enough. (3:57) It's not enough to, it's like saying, I want you to fall deeply in love. (4:00) Of course I want you to fall deeply in love, but that's not enough to facilitate a great relationship, just like passion is not enough to facilitate a successful life.

Alan Lazaros

(4:08) Yeah. (4:11) At the risk of sounding mean, it's almost like if you were to make a personal development children's book, it would, one of the titles would be Chase Your Passion. (4:22) I don't think that's mean.(4:23) I think that's accurate. (4:24) Yeah. (4:24) Same.(4:25) I think that a lot of, a lot of podcasts that talk about chase your passion or manifestation, I think that a lot of it is, is a start. (4:42) And even earlier I was interviewed and he asked me 11 years ago after my car accident, like, what was, what did you do to get into personal development? (4:55) What did you, what was, what was the most important thing?(4:58) I said, probably habit tracking and then reading. (5:02) And then I went through a slew of books that I read back then. (5:07) Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, all of the Tony Robbins books, all the Wayne Dyer books, uh, all the John Maxwell books.(5:19) And some of them are really good and some of them are really not. (5:23) Were they good then though? (5:25) Really dumb.(5:26) What?

Kevin Palmieri

(5:26) Were they good then though?

Alan Lazaros

(5:28) No, I think I thought they were. (5:31) I was thinking of that. (5:33) Sorry.(5:33) Sorry to interrupt. (5:34) This is good. (5:35) I'm glad we're doing this.(5:38) Some of them were extremely good starts and then some of them were misleading. (5:45) Unintentionally. (5:46) It's like, uh, it's like people who, and this is the one that most people don't like about me, but as an engineer, I find it horrible advice to just be present.(6:00) I think that's the worst advice ever. (6:04) We'll never get this moment again. (6:06) If you're listening, you'll never get this moment again.(6:10) I do something called mental subtraction all the time. (6:13) And what that means is remember what it was like, Alan, when you were 14 years old and you were a loser and you didn't hit puberty and you got pity dances from your sister's friends and you couldn't get a beautiful girl to look at you and look at right now, you're in a relationship with the most beautiful woman you've ever seen that most guys would never even be able to come close to. (6:36) Okay.(6:37) Mental subtraction. (6:38) That's how I don't take her for granted because habituation, basically, there's something called habituation in neuroscience where the same stimulus has less response over time. (6:51) And if you're not careful in doing mental, you do this with your cats all the time.(6:55) I do it with Taryn too all the time. (6:57) Exactly. (6:58) And so my point of this is all those books that tell you to stay present, they have merit in one sense, like, yes, you'll never get this moment again.(7:13) Cherish this moment. (7:14) Absolutely. (7:14) Be grateful.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:16) And if you don't plan for your future, you're fucked. (7:20) I think a lot of them are based on the fact that they're assuming you're not already in the present. (7:25) It's like, you know what I mean?(7:28) Once you get in the present, you still have to go back to the future. (7:31) Well, I know, but it's like me saying like not knowing you and saying, honestly, I think, I don't know, I probably think exercising more would help you. (7:38) Like, well, no, no, you couldn't possibly.(7:40) I don't think it would be good for you to exercise more than you already are. (7:42) It would take over your entire fucking life. (7:45) I think sometimes follow your passion is, I think it's a really good start for somebody who is passionate about something that's not pursuing it at all.(7:56) It's a really good start.

Alan Lazaros

(7:58) And then? (7:59) And then. (8:00) Yeah.(8:00) And that's exactly it. (8:01) That's why when you, I think that no book is going to change your life. (8:06) Reading will.(8:08) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:08) I read a book last night. (8:10) I think there's a, there's, it's not going to change it forever, but it's going to change it until you get the next book. (8:16) I think it's like the principle will change your life.(8:19) Not the actual book.

Alan Lazaros

(8:20) Not the book. (8:21) Yeah, that's fair. (8:22) Okay.(8:22) Reading books about self-improvement, personal growth, and personal development will change your life. (8:29) But there's no one book that I think is going to change your life. (8:34) Because the power of now by Eckhart Tolle is going to get you to be very, very present at the expense of planning and preparing your long-term strategic focus on the future.(8:48) And by the way, Eckhart, you planned out a series of books. (8:53) And, and in, and again, I'm all for being present for minutes and moments and taking gratitude in. (8:59) But if you live every day, just grateful for what you have and you never pursue more, which is what happens.(9:06) Like look at the most successful people on planet earth. (9:09) They got pissed off enough to finally go pursue. (9:12) You and I have been in places where we were super centered and super fulfilled and it wasn't doing it.(9:17) And then eventually we realized, okay, we need to get to the next level. (9:21) Like this, this present shit needs to go. (9:23) You used to have this gratitude.(9:24) You'd write out all your manifest date. (9:25) It's like, listen, we've got to get to work here. (9:27) So everything back to chase your passion.(9:31) It's, it's a part of the equation, but not the whole equation. (9:34) I think that doing social media is important for your business, but it comes with a pro and a con. (9:41) I think reading comes with a pro and a con.(9:44) I think it's not just reading, it's what you read. (9:48) And it all comes down to this one thing that I find in one-on-one coaching. (9:52) And this is why I like one-on-one coaching more than podcasting.(9:57) I was on with someone earlier. (9:59) I got to ask her about her company, how much revenue they're doing. (10:03) She's from the Bahamas.(10:05) Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. (10:05) I got all the data and now everything I is going to be completely predicated on her goals, her circumstances, her business, what she wants and doesn't want her core values. (10:19) The principles are the same chase your passion, but the way you apply those principles has to be completely customized based on the individual.(10:30) The medicine that you give one patient will kill another. (10:34) And so, okay, what's a medicine people use? (10:41) Azithromycin is an antibiotic, but the dosage has to depend on the individual.(10:47) So reading is a medicine, but what you read and how much has to be completely predicated for you. (10:55) So chase your passion. (10:57) Okay, now what?(11:00) And you actually came up with this. (11:02) And this is one of the very few frameworks that you've come up with that I actually, I like all the frameworks you've come up with. (11:07) You're not a framework guy.(11:08) I'm not a framework guy.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:10) Did you say it wrong or did you say it extremely right?

Alan Lazaros

(11:14) I think I said that in a way that probably made it sound worse than I meant it. (11:22) Also, everybody, we are doing a event in December. (11:27) We do this every year, two events.(11:28) Next Level Hope Foundation is a charity that Kevin and I started. (11:34) We both grew up without fathers. (11:35) The Next Level Hope Foundation is for, it started out with kids without fathers.(11:39) Now it's kids of single parents. (11:40) We do an event on Father's Day and during the holidays, we rent out the entire YMCA in Worcester and we play sports with the kids and we turn a traditionally challenging time into a really fun time. (11:52) And most importantly, this helps the single parents who sometimes struggle financially come to do something free.(12:00) So the link to donate GoFundMe will be in the show notes. (12:04) I don't care if you donate $5 or 500, every little bit counts. (12:07) Thank you so much.(12:08) We appreciate it. (12:08) Kevin and I both already donated earlier today and thank you so much.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:13) And shout out to Steph behind the scenes doing a lot of work for the Next Level Hope Foundation that goes unseen in the public eye for most of you, but she's behind the scenes crushing it year round to make sure it's successful. (12:23) Thank you, Steph.

Alan Lazaros

(12:26) So passion, purpose, profit, there is no one-size-fits-all approach to success, but there are principles that apply to all of us. (12:35) So in the opening, I said, chase your passion. (12:40) That is one third of the equation.(12:42) Kevin created a framework. (12:45) I remember the slide is a Canva human being, a man in the middle of a pool on a floaty. (12:55) Oh yeah.(12:56) See? (12:57) All right. (12:57) Yeah, yeah.(12:58) I don't know if it was at Next Level Live or one of the speeches that we gave.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:01) I don't remember.

Alan Lazaros

(13:01) Can you go through that framework because it is yours? (13:03) Passion into purpose into profit.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:05) Maybe. (13:05) Maybe. (13:07) For me, I started this because I loved podcasting and I wanted to help people.(13:13) That's what I was passionate about. (13:15) And that all came from my purpose of you heard earlier. (13:17) Was it in this episode?(13:18) Yeah. (13:19) In this episode about how I had suicidal ideations. (13:22) So my purpose became being the type of person that I needed in my lowest point.(13:27) And those are all great if you can do them sustainably. (13:31) And that's where having to find a way to make your passion and your purpose profitable comes in because then you can, this is a really good example. (13:40) Alan and I are both very passionate and feel purpose towards helping children of single parents and helping parents and children, just everybody in general, but that specific niche.(13:51) If we don't make any money in our business, we can't donate and we can't afford to have the Next Level Hope Foundation. (13:58) The idea is great. (14:00) The meaning behind it, the feeling behind it, the passion is great.(14:04) The purpose is great. (14:04) If you can't find a way to turn that into a profit, unfortunately it's not sustainable and the thing ceases to exist. (14:10) So this is what I said in the in the beginning before we logged on.(14:14) There's probably somebody out there who's really good at carving shit out of soap. (14:18) You give them a bar of Dove and they go to town and they can do just about anything with it. (14:24) I love that for you.(14:26) And maybe you have a shop on Etsy where you sell it and that's awesome. (14:30) But if not, you're probably not gonna be able to dedicate your life to that. (14:33) And that makes me sad because the thing that you're most passionate about, you can't do sustainably.(14:39) That's how we fall away from our passions. (14:42) We say, well, I used to be able to do that until. (14:43) I used to do that, but I couldn't find a way.(14:45) And I don't want that for you if you're out there. (14:48) So I think the hard part is for a lot of people, it feels dirty. (14:53) It's like, well, I would do this for free.(14:55) Same. (14:56) Same. (14:57) I did it for free for a long time and did.(14:59) Doesn't mean you have to, though. (15:00) I would do this for free. (15:02) No, no, not only doesn't mean you have to, it doesn't mean you should.(15:05) Yeah, it doesn't mean. (15:05) No, no, you actually can't. (15:07) Well, I know, but there are people, there are people that, that do want to do it for free forever.(15:12) And I'm just saying it's, you're probably not going to be able to do it forever for free. (15:16) Unfortunately. (15:17) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(15:19) Unless you're balling already. (15:21) Even, even a charity requires time and effort in.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:24) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(15:24) Yeah. (15:25) Right. (15:26) It's, it takes work.(15:27) We're not making any money with the Next Level Hope Foundation. (15:29) It's actually costing us money, but that's passion. (15:35) But if you don't, and that's purpose too, purpose too, but it's not profit.(15:39) It's not profitable.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:40) And we couldn't do that in the first year either. (15:43) I mean, this started several years in because we weren't profitable enough to have a, we couldn't support ourselves. (15:50) Nevermind, give back to the local community.(15:52) Self charity.

Alan Lazaros

(15:53) Yes.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:53) In the beginning for sure.

Alan Lazaros

(15:54) First two years in business, Kevin and I, fortunately we had money from previous corporate careers, but Kevin and I together combined first two years, $13,000 gross.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:05) Not good.

Alan Lazaros

(16:05) Born and raised in Massachusetts. (16:07) And I think you were living in Massachusetts at the time. (16:09) I was.(16:10) And if you look up the cost of living in Massachusetts, that is abject poverty. (16:13) Yeah. (16:13) It's not for the two of us.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:15) It doesn't go far in Massachusetts, where we live.

Alan Lazaros

(16:17) No, it does not. (16:19) Okay. (16:19) So this is the thing I want to make land before we go.(16:21) We talked about the want, love, hate framework, passion, purpose, profit. (16:25) There's a couple issues that I see. (16:28) One thing that I see constantly is you're either on one end or the other.(16:35) So on one end, the people I coach are so focused on profit that they lose some of the passion and they no longer are fulfilled in their work. (16:45) So they're super profitable, but they're not fulfilled anymore. (16:48) So they can't sustain it.(16:49) And when they get done with the week, they're thinking, oh, screw this. (16:54) The other side of it, they love what they're doing and they feel really fulfilled doing it, but they're not profitable. (17:00) You have to do both.(17:02) You have to find a way to take your passion of cooking into a purpose of helping people, building a restaurant that people love. (17:11) They have a great experience at for a profit. (17:14) And then you reinvest the profit back into the passion, back into the purpose, back into the profit, back into the passion, back into the purpose, back into the profit.(17:21) That's why I love the framework. (17:22) It's fire.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:22) It's great. (17:23) I appreciate it. (17:24) I mean, all the other ones I've created are real shit, evidently, but I got a couple that are bangers.

Alan Lazaros

(17:29) What I meant to say is that you're not really a framework creator. (17:33) You've created a couple, confidence conundrum, passion into purpose into profit. (17:37) I think there's a couple others.(17:38) Yes. (17:39) Time perspective, all that, that good one. (17:40) Love that one.(17:41) Wrong approach, wrong time perspective, wrong- That's a classic.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:46) What's that?

Alan Lazaros

(17:46) Expectations. (17:47) Expectations. (17:48) Wrong expectations, wrong approach, wrong time perspective.(17:51) So you've got three really good frameworks. (17:54) I appreciate that. (17:54) You're welcome.(17:56) So what I meant to say is that- You know I'm totally decent. (17:59) I do know, but I also want to clarify.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:00) I know because you think people will be like, well, he's so mean to Kev. (18:04) And he is. (18:05) He is.(18:05) You got that right. (18:06) No, no. (18:06) This is- It's all great.(18:08) Definitely not. (18:08) No. (18:08) No, I love that framework.

Alan Lazaros

(18:10) I just want to give you credit. (18:11) I think that's fire. (18:12) I use it all the time.(18:13) Straight up. (18:13) So everyone out there, what are the things you're passionate about? (18:17) And there's another issue that I see.(18:19) Well, I don't really want it to feel like work. (18:21) Get over it. (18:23) Get over it.(18:23) It's better than work. (18:24) It sucks. (18:26) The amount of times I've heard that shit.(18:28) Can you imagine if you and I were like, well, I really love podcasting, but I don't want it to feel like work. (18:32) Guess what?

Kevin Palmieri

(18:33) It's better than actual work. (18:35) Yeah. (18:36) I think it's based on, I think that's based on misinformation too.(18:39) Because people say that all the time. (18:40) I'll be on an interview, they'll say, well, when you love something enough, it never feels like work. (18:45) It's like, that's not true.(18:46) At all. (18:47) It always feels like work. (18:48) Just in a different way, right?(18:49) This doesn't feel like work. (18:51) But again, this is literally seven hours of my 60 hour week. (18:56) A very small, very small amount.(18:59) What's the percentage on that? (19:00) It's going to be, hold on. (19:02) Here we go.(19:03) Hold on. (19:03) 60 hours, seven hours. (19:05) You divide that by 10, that would be six.(19:08) It's going to be- Round it. (19:10) Round it to the nearest. (19:11) 11%.

Alan Lazaros

(19:12) That's 12, but it's 11.6. It's 11.6. I don't know how I was- So 12% of Kevin's week is his passion. (19:21) Is this. (19:23) Yep.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:23) This. (19:24) And that's like, if I was like, well, I'm only going to do what I'm passionate about, we wouldn't be here. (19:33) We wouldn't exist anymore because so much is required.(19:40) I'll have to think.

Alan Lazaros

(19:41) I'll try to- And on the other end, if you weren't passionate about this, we wouldn't have been able to sustain it without burning out. (19:47) It's a fine line. (19:48) It's a fine line.(19:48) And that's the point of NLU. (19:50) I want us to articulate things on both sides of the coin so that there's actually an understanding here of, yes, you have to be passionate and you have to help others with it. (20:02) And you have to do that profitably.(20:04) And that's a whole, I mean, doing your passion is level one, super easy, easy mode, not hard to do something you're passionate about. (20:12) Getting really good at it is level two. (20:15) Getting so good at it that you help others with it is level three.(20:19) Getting so good at it that you help others with it and they pay you is level four. (20:25) Doing that in a scalable way is level five and level five is fucking nearly impossible. (20:31) And if anyone actually said that to us and then taught us how to do it, it would have taken 11 goddamn years.(20:38) And again, I'm saying 11 because I started 11 years ago, but you and I started the podcast nine years ago coming up in March. (20:45) Let's wrap this in a bow. (20:47) Oh, oh, want, love, hate, last piece.(20:49) I have a want, love, hate framework Kevin and I wanted to talk about on this. (20:54) I have never seen an exception to this in all of my coaching, my magic number. (20:59) I have 11,784 hours of coaching, training, and podcasting with people from all over the world.(21:05) And I have never seen this not work. (21:09) I want a great body. (21:12) I love weight training.(21:15) I hate dieting. (21:17) My bottleneck is dieting a hundred percent. (21:21) That is the main issue without question.(21:24) It's not weight training. (21:25) I've, I've weight trained every other day for coming up on four years, rounded up. (21:29) It's not weight training.(21:30) That's the problem. (21:31) It's the fact that I love food and I don't want to diet. (21:34) I can't fucking stand it.(21:35) Okay. (21:36) Want, love, hate. (21:37) I want more clients.(21:39) I love coaching. (21:40) I hate social media. (21:42) I don't like it.(21:43) I don't like shining and showing off. (21:44) I don't, I'm not a huge fan. (21:46) I do it because I have to do it.(21:47) It's not my favorite. (21:49) Every human being out there who wants to be more successful, you have this too. (21:54) Want, love, hate.(21:55) I want financial freedom. (21:57) I love my job. (22:00) I hate investing money.(22:01) Okay. (22:02) You got to go invest money. (22:03) Want, love, hate is the opposite of chase your passion.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:08) It'll all work out. (22:09) Well, I'm going to say want, love to the second power because it's want, abs, love, exercise, love, Oreos too. (22:17) I like that.(22:18) Nice. (22:19) I was going to say something too is powerful. (22:20) So powerful.(22:21) Some of the most powerful things you've ever heard in your life. (22:23) And then I think I forgot about it. (22:26) Hold on here.(22:27) Oh, this is what I was going to say. (22:29) Am I, this is gonna be a bold claim. (22:31) Am I one of the most passionate people in the world about podcasting?(22:36) Statistically, most likely. (22:37) Yes. (22:38) You don't do this if you're not that passionate about it.(22:40) And so that's one piece. (22:42) And am I also willing to do a lot of shit that I don't like on the very high end of humans? (22:48) Yes.(22:48) That, that's my, the passion for the thing you love has to build enough momentum for you to sift through the mud that you don't really want to work through. (22:56) That's my thesis.

Alan Lazaros

(22:58) Yeah. (22:59) Everything we want in success, in real life, health, wealth, and love. (23:05) Everyone think about where you are struggling in health, wealth, and love.(23:11) If you and I were to do a coaching session, first one's free link will be in the show notes. (23:16) But just hypothetically, if we were to do a coaching session, I would find the bottleneck. (23:22) It's called targeting the constraint.(23:24) I would ask you questions. (23:25) I try to figure out what is the reason you're not being successful. (23:27) And on the other side of that conversation, we would figure out there's something that you are avoiding, something you're afraid of, or something you can't stand doing that is actually necessary to achieve what you want so that you can do more of what you love.(23:40) And I, I think that that's a freaking law.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:45) There is no pro without a con. (23:47) We're going to talk about that in tomorrow's episode. (23:49) Yes.(23:50) Nice little segue. (23:51) How do you spell segue like that? (23:53) Not segue the thing you ride around.(23:55) Isn't it like S-E-G-U-E? (23:56) Isn't it like very strange? (23:58) I have no idea.(23:59) Well, we'll save that for another episode. (24:01) We'll save that for another episode. (24:02) All right.(24:03) Take advantage of Alan's free call if you haven't yet. (24:05) We'll have the link in the show notes. (24:06) And shout out to anybody who has donated slash is going to donate for Next Level Hope Foundation.(24:11) We appreciate you all so very much. (24:12) As always, we love you. (24:13) We appreciate you.(24:14) Grateful for each and every one of you. (24:15) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every freaking day to help you get there. (24:23) Keep reaching for your full potential.

Alan Lazaros

(24:25) Next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:27) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (24:31) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(24:34) We mean it when we say family. (24:36) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (24:39) Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.(24:43) Thank you again, and we will talk to you tomorrow.