Priorities Are Painful… (2277)

Hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros reveal the hidden cost of prioritization that most people in self-improvement overlook. When your life grows, your decisions get heavier, your seasons shift, and consistency becomes a deliberate skill. This episode uncovers why some people progress year after year while others stay stuck with the same goals and the same 24 hours. 

If you care about personal development, discipline, and decision-making that creates real change, this conversation will challenge how you think about balance and force you to confront the trade-offs you’ve been avoiding.

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Show notes:
(1:20) Seasons of life and how priorities shift
(3:27) The 168-hour framework and identity alignment
(5:23) Commitments, constraints, and future promises
(10:08) Why winning in one area requires neglecting another
(14:56) Obsession, excellence, and misunderstood work ethic
(19:33) Redefining balance through health, wealth, and love
(21:50) Outro

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Chapters

• 1:20 Seasons of life and how priorities shift
• 3:27 The 168-hour framework and identity alignment
• 5:23 Commitments, constraints, and future promises
• 10:08 Why winning in one area requires neglecting another
• 14:56 Obsession, excellence, and misunderstood work ethic
• 19:33 Redefining balance through health, wealth, and love
• 21:50 Outro

Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) This episode came from the fact that I was complaining to Alan about how I am resenting a little bit the business, and growing the business, and pouring into people's lives at what at times feels like the expense of myself.

Alan Lazaros

(0:16) Priorities. (0:17) 21st century distractions constantly. (0:20) We've talked about it before, we're going to talk about it again.(0:23) How do you keep the most important things, the most important things?

Kevin Palmieri

(0:27) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:30) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:32) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.(0:35) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no-BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:42) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:48) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(1:04) Self-improvement, in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:11) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:16) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2,227. (1:20) Priorities are painful. (1:21) Nobody tells you that.(1:22) They say get your priorities in order, they say how important it is to have the right priorities, to prioritize, all that happy jazz. (1:28) But when you do, oftentimes, things in that department, eventually, not in the beginning for sure, end up getting really good, potentially. (1:38) And that makes every other facet of life really, really, really challenging.(1:42) And I was talking to Alan today, and I said, you know, I'd like to do an episode about how I'm a little bit jealous of some people in my life who are still really focused on their personal development. (1:57) And I am too, right? (1:58) I go to the gym almost every day.(1:59) I read every day. (2:00) I try to get enough sleep. (2:01) I'm always hydrated.(2:02) I eat well. (2:03) But it just doesn't feel like the early days where Alan and I could meditate in the studio together. (2:09) You could just test it out, like, hey, breathwork.(2:11) This breathwork thing, let's give it a shot. (2:13) That just seems so far away. (2:16) Breathwork was a game changer.(2:17) Breathwork was a game changer. (2:18) We had a season. (2:19) We'll talk about seasons today for sure.(2:20) But we had a season of breathwork. (2:21) But the truth of the matter is, the thing that I set out to do at the beginning of the year, the priority that I said I was the most committed to is growing a ton. (2:30) And the business is growing a ton.(2:32) And I have amazing clients and more amazing clients. (2:34) Awesome. (2:34) It's all amazing.(2:36) But it's taking up so much of the time that I had in the past. (2:43) Now, you could say, well, Kev, maybe you're just not as committed to these other things. (2:48) And the truth is, yes, I'm not.(2:49) That is a fact. (2:51) I am more committed to growing the business and putting us in a good place than I am laying down on the yoga mat and doing 15 minutes a day. (2:58) I'd rather put that 15 minutes somewhere else.(3:01) Will I pay a price for that? (3:03) I most likely already am, even though I don't know it yet. (3:05) But that, I think that it's trade-offs.(3:07) It's seasons. (3:09) And I do think it's a very gentle, be careful what you wish for. (3:15) Because you don't necessarily know what going all in on a priority will be until you go all in on it.(3:20) And then six months later, a year later, you start to reap the rewards of that.

Alan Lazaros

(3:27) One of the questions that's a dominant question that I'm asking at all times is, what's the best use of my time right now? (3:32) What's the best use of my time right now? (3:34) What's the best use of my time right now?(3:36) I've broken down this before, but I want to do it again. (3:39) I would love it, Next Levelers, if you would memorize this, because I think it will help you. (3:43) You don't have to do anything.(3:44) But if you do memorize this, I do know that it will help you. (3:48) I've memorized it. (3:49) There's 168 hours in a week, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.(3:54) You have 112 waking hours if you sleep 8 on average. (4:01) Dude, Emily and I have our top 5 priorities. (4:05) Priority 1 is sleep.(4:06) Priority 2 is fitness. (4:08) Priority 3 is finance. (4:10) Priority 4, which is growing the business.(4:12) Priority 4 is mental health. (4:15) Priority 5 is flow. (4:17) And flow makes the other ones happen too, obviously.(4:22) I do think, and I had a pretty healthy debate with a client recently. (4:26) I said, find me something that is more important for long-term success than sleep. (4:33) Try.(4:33) Like, let's actually try to come up with something more important. (4:37) And he couldn't. (4:37) I think we did an episode on that recently.(4:43) When you talk about seasons, when you talk about time management, when you talk about how you prioritize your days and your time, it's very hard to eliminate things that are really important to you. (4:57) So I'll give you an example. (4:59) We, on yesterday's episode, it dropped today.(5:02) So today's episode, which is yesterday's, we said, I said out loud to the whole listeners, the entire podcast global community, the Next Levelers, that I would be in the Fitness, Accountability, Next Level WhatsApp group every single day in 2026. (5:23) There's a small piece of me. (5:25) The biggest part of me is like, fuck yes, awesome.(5:29) There's a small piece of me that was, was that a mistake? (5:35) Because 2026 is going to be a big year. (5:37) CEO of the company.(5:39) We're growing. (5:40) We just got a new team potentially. (5:42) It's all happening.(5:44) Am I going to be able to be in there every single day, 365 days straight? (5:48) I'm going to do it. (5:49) Keep the promise to myself and to the community.(5:51) But you got to be careful. (5:54) What's your priority going to be?

Kevin Palmieri

(5:56) Do you know what your priority is going to be in 2026? (6:01) Isn't it wild? (6:02) We're going to like, we'll be doing a New Year's episode very soon.(6:06) Yeah, it's crazy.

Alan Lazaros

(6:08) I've actually had all my clients, the ones that I've spoken to in December. (6:15) So if you're a client and I haven't had a meeting with you in December, you don't know this, but you're gonna. (6:19) So every client is doing a 2025 review, high level, nothing crazy.(6:24) How did the year go? (6:26) And I want everyone to send me. (6:29) And I'll actually save myself some time.(6:31) If you're a client, do this, please. (6:33) Send me what you want to achieve in 2026. (6:35) I want to start.(6:35) I'm already thinking about 2026 a ton. (6:37) You can tell the team I've been messaging. (6:41) What do you want to accomplish?(6:42) So what is my priority in 2026? (6:47) I'd like to get us an in-person studio and grow the company. (6:55) That's probably the priority.(6:57) Grow the company by 41% next year, which is 9% quarter over quarter. (7:01) Which comes to like 0.1% per day for 365 days straight. (7:07) You can't miss.(7:10) And 41% growing a company by 41% sounds easy. (7:16) That's like really difficult to do. (7:19) It's really, really, really difficult to do.(7:21) So, but then here's the thing. (7:23) There's priorities underneath that. (7:25) Okay.(7:25) In order to grow, I call it Pareto the hell out of it. (7:29) So in order to grow the company by 41%, that means I have to focus on these things. (7:35) One of them is sleep.(7:37) One of them is consistent focus and flow. (7:41) One of them is finance. (7:42) I have to track our metrics every day.(7:45) Track spending, track revenue. (7:48) And so to make this land for every listener out there, I've been doing this a lot with clients lately. (7:56) Take out a piece of paper or just do this in your head.(8:00) On the left side of the page, put what you pay attention to most often. (8:04) What are the things that you're paying attention to? (8:07) And on the right side, put what you do and don't do.(8:11) And just do a review of 2025 and just think of like, what were the things I paid attention to? (8:17) You've been getting a lot of screenshots. (8:18) So have I of listeners who had NLU as their top YouTube channel or their top Spotify.(8:24) Like that's awesome. (8:25) And I did my Spotify. (8:27) Spotify told me, hey, you listen to this type of music.(8:30) You're this type of person. (8:31) You listen to these podcasts. (8:33) You YouTube, you watch this kind of content.(8:36) And I'm just looking back and going, okay, what do I want to get rid of in 2026? (8:41) And I do think that that's what being an adult is. (8:45) I think being an adult is being discerning.(8:46) And I think it sucks, but I think it's really important. (8:48) This December, I feel very drama free. (8:53) It's nice.(8:54) But Emilia and I have been very proactive about sort of focusing our time and effort on what's most important to us.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:00) I had a sad moment where I, dude, we literally don't even have our Christmas tree up yet. (9:06) Dude, that is so out of the ordinary for me. (9:09) I had a moment where I was like, is it even going to, am I going to put it up?(9:12) I'm going to put the Christmas tree up this year. (9:13) I need to, because Christmas is my favorite time of the year. (9:16) It's my absolute favorite.(9:18) It's not about the gifts. (9:19) I just like the lights. (9:20) I'm like, I have something for lights.(9:21) Look at the studio. (9:22) I have something for lights.

Alan Lazaros

(9:23) Does Taryn care?

Kevin Palmieri

(9:26) It's probably as much as I do. (9:28) There hasn't been a push to put it up, so no, not really. (9:31) But I think we were like, I'd be like giving up though.(9:34) Yeah, I want to have a little Christmas spirit. (9:36) I'm not 70 yet. (9:38) You know, when I get older, that's different.(9:39) That's different. (9:41) But it just, it's very interesting how so many things have changed. (9:48) And it makes me sad, not in a bad way, but in just in a way.

Alan Lazaros

(9:53) So I messaged you earlier about 2026.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:57) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(9:58) And I'll keep all that, a lot of that private because not because I can't share it, but because it's probably irrelevant to other people. (10:03) But what I will say is, where are you winning? (10:08) Because I finally, finally, finally, I feel really, I feel like I'm winning in fitness.(10:15) I don't feel perfect by any means, but I definitely feel like I'm winning. (10:19) But I also know that that's taken a lot of time and effort. (10:25) And when you're winning in one area, you're pretty much neglecting other ones.(10:29) Well, that's... (10:30) Inevitably.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:31) Anything you're doing really well is, unfortunately, a result of you not doing a lot of other things really well.

Alan Lazaros

(10:36) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:38) Unfortunately.

Alan Lazaros

(10:38) It's been tough to prioritize so many things simultaneously. (10:44) That's got to be one of life's most difficult things. (10:48) That's why I don't even know what to talk about right now.(10:50) It's like, okay, you want to be healthy, wealthy, and in love. (10:54) Next level university. (10:56) That's going to be a challenge forever.(10:59) Because you and I can zoom into health, and there's a bunch of categories. (11:06) And I could go, we'll do it quick. (11:08) Okay, training.(11:10) You've got HIIT training, high intensity interval training. (11:13) You've got weight training. (11:14) You've got steady state cardio.(11:17) Okay, awesome. (11:18) Now let's zoom into each of those. (11:19) Okay, what do you have to do each day?(11:21) And then you go, okay, nutrition. (11:23) Okay, macros, micros, calories. (11:25) Okay, zoom back out.(11:26) Okay, hydration. (11:27) Okay, how often do you hydrate? (11:28) How much do you need per day?(11:31) It's a full-time job. (11:32) Being healthy, wealthy, and in love is three full-time jobs. (11:36) It is.(11:36) It's three full-time jobs. (11:37) And right now, the point why we're doing this episode is because Kev has kind of decided in advance, like, for the rest of the year, I'm going to prioritize on growing the company at the expense of myself temporarily. (11:51) And it's not at the expense of yourself, because obviously that pays for your lifestyle too.(11:54) It's not like you're completely martyring yourself. (11:57) But I do think there has to be a humble pie conversation with self of, listen, I'm not going to be a best friend and a best pickleball partner and a best, I don't know why I landed on pickleball, and a best fitness athlete and, and, and, and, and. (12:11) I think the older I get, the more I realize how little time there is to actually be great at things.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:16) Well, I think it's a hard thing to admit for a lot of people. (12:19) It's like, well, no, you can be the, you can be good at everything. (12:21) Sure.(12:22) You can be good at everything. (12:22) We're not going to be the best at anything. (12:24) Agreed.(12:25) Unfortunately, I'm writing a, I'm writing a rap. (12:28) I have been, I haven't written in weeks, unfortunately, but I had it going. (12:32) And it's something along the lines of- Episode about prioritization.

Alan Lazaros

(12:34) I was writing a rap this morning.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:35) Yeah, unfortunately I wasn't. (12:37) It's something along the line, I haven't recorded it yet. (12:39) So I'm in the process of writing it.(12:40) So I don't even know how it's going to go yet. (12:42) But it's, I mean this with all due respect. (12:45) They don't write biographies about people who prioritize, like, um, I don't, I don't remember it, but it's essentially that.(12:54) Like they don't write, they don't make biographies about people who are like, yeah, work balance, like work-life balance, like that. (13:00) That's not, that's not- What did you used to think about that? (13:03) Because this is, it's good to see, you've also been around some people that are dialed in.(13:07) I thought it was ego. (13:08) I thought it was like, yeah, I thought it was like an ego conversation of, well, no, you can't say that. (13:15) Like there's some people that do.(13:16) Sure, there is. (13:17) There is, yes, there is some people that do. (13:19) That do what?(13:20) That get biographies written about them and they're not, they are concerned with work-life balance, maybe, fine. (13:25) But it's, that is the rarer side of things. (13:29) For sure.(13:29) That is the rarer side of things. (13:31) Okay.

Alan Lazaros

(13:35) Old Kev believed in work-life balance?

Kevin Palmieri

(13:39) No, because I traded in- I've never been really big on that. (13:41) I traded in so much of my life to try to be successful.

Alan Lazaros

(13:45) But you, you have been on the end of, you understand why people don't. (13:51) Okay. (13:51) I asked you earlier, behind the scenes, I said, what, what do, what does some of those people think of me?(13:56) The mastermind that you were at? (13:58) And you said, uh, probably workaholic. (14:01) Workaholic, I would say.(14:05) I know that you know that I'm not, because you work as much as I do, apparently. (14:12) I don't mean that apparently. (14:13) Kevin and I tracked our time recently.(14:14) It was like, oh, you are grinding, man.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:16) I was pleasantly surprised.

Alan Lazaros

(14:18) I was pleasantly surprised.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:19) Most people don't like what they do. (14:22) So I think work-life balance for a lot of people is I need my life to be better than my work because I hate my work. (14:30) So I understand that.(14:31) Yeah. (14:32) I get that. (14:34) But, so let's talk about this.

Alan Lazaros

(14:39) I, I exercise daily. (14:42) That's not work. (14:43) Like, so I'm not, I'm not working.(14:46) Workaholic implies you're addicted to work and can't have a life outside of it. (14:51) Emilia and I, we do, we do have a life outside of it. (14:54) But from the outside in, I can see why it would look that way.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:56) People project. (14:57) People project. (14:58) It's like, if somebody is, if somebody ran away from their self-awareness and ego and their understanding themselves for 40 years, and it looks like it looks for you, I can understand why people would think that, but you don't know what's going on inside.

Alan Lazaros

(15:13) What's your take on it now? (15:15) Because I think what looks like workaholism, and again, I don't really, I'm in a really cool place in my life where I don't know if I really care if people think that. (15:24) I genuinely feel very comfortable with that.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:26) Yeah, for sure.

Alan Lazaros

(15:27) And I do think most people are going to think that, but I also think most people are fairly lazy, so that's fine. (15:35) But what did you used to think? (15:38) Because did you believe that you could be successful?(15:46) I guess I've been pretty intensely focused on things my entire life. (15:53) There was always something. (15:55) So it was pro gaming, semi-pro gaming, semi-pro gaming for a while.(15:59) It was snowboarding for a while. (16:00) It was basketball for a while. (16:02) It was academics for a while.(16:04) I always go from thing to thing to thing, but I always have my thing. (16:08) Always. (16:09) And my thing for the last 11 years has been self-improvement, personal development, this mission, personal growth, next level university, what's become next level university.(16:20) And for someone who is less obsessive, for lack of better phrasing, what do you think about it now? (16:28) Because what would you say to someone who wants to be really successful, but is afraid of obsessiveness?

Kevin Palmieri

(16:37) You can still be successful, but you're not going to be as successful as the people who are obsessed. (16:42) Yeah. (16:43) Because there's, there is something to be said.(16:45) Again, I know people, there's a lot of people that are like, oh, you know, grind porn and blah, blah, blah. (16:50) And it's like, I understand. (16:51) I'm not, I think if you grind for the wrong reasons, you're setting yourself up for failure.(16:55) But like, this was my dream. (16:56) My dream was to be a full-time professional podcaster. (16:58) That is now my reality.(17:00) And I have to do all the things necessary to keep this boat afloat. (17:03) And the boat is heavy. (17:04) It is heavy.(17:06) I think that's different. (17:07) And I also, I told this, I said this to Tyron today. (17:10) I said, I intend on having the most successful podcast production company on the planet.(17:14) Like that's what I'm, the reason I'm doing this. (17:17) Like that's, that's what I want. (17:18) I want to be the, I want to see, I want to see if I can do it.(17:22) I like the challenge. (17:23) I like the. (17:23) Hell yes.(17:25) So production team, we got our work cut out for us. (17:27) But am I going to be able to do that and have balance?

Alan Lazaros

(17:32) No. (17:35) Honestly, let's have that conversation. (17:37) We have four minutes to have that conversation.(17:39) Well, we can do part two on this. (17:40) This is a success podcast. (17:42) Now we talk personal development, personal growth, self-improvement, and that will always be just who we are.(17:50) I, as a, I mean, I'm 37. (17:53) Dude, if I could go back, I would dial in faster. (18:01) Seriously, I regret wasting time and effort.(18:05) And I feel like I was more dialed in than the statistical norm by a significant margin. (18:10) But I do. (18:11) I think there's very little in life that really matters.(18:16) Your health matters so much. (18:20) So much. (18:21) Without that, everything goes.(18:22) Why does everyone neglect it? (18:24) It's crazy to me, but I also did for a time. (18:28) So I get it.(18:29) I'm never doing that shit again. (18:31) No one ever in history was like, wow, I really wish I took less care of my health. (18:38) Wow, I really regret spending time with the love of my life.(18:41) Wow, I really regret exercising too much. (18:44) Wow, I really regret reading too many books. (18:46) I really regret deep, meaningful work.(18:48) None of that. (18:49) That's, it's comical to even, you know what you're going to regret? (18:52) Drinking, partying, nonsense, horseshit.(18:55) It's called self-imposed servitude to thankless people. (18:59) Self-imposed servitude to thankless people. (19:01) Who here, pretending we're in an audience right now, regrets spending a lot of time with a friend who kind of sucked in hindsight.(19:08) For sure. (19:09) Yeah, Kev's like, for sure. (19:10) I think that if nothing else comes of this episode, get rid of the nonsense.(19:15) You, your future self will thank you. (19:17) Every time I look back, dude, year over year, I am just so grateful that Emilia and I just slowly siphoned all the horseshit, the drama. (19:26) We got so much drama out of our life.(19:30) And I feel like when you do that, you're free to fly. (19:33) You're free to fly.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:35) We're going to, let's do part two. (19:36) We'll do part two episode. (19:37) I don't think we talk that often about work-life balance, somehow.(19:42) I feel like we very rarely talk about it.

Alan Lazaros

(19:44) I don't, I think harmony is a good word. (19:46) And I think we've talked about it in the past, but I don't think we talk about it that much either. (19:50) Probably because we're not, we're not really focused on it.(19:53) I'm not, but we are though. (19:56) We're, you go to the gym, I go to the gym. (19:58) It's not like.(19:58) I know, I know. (19:59) You know what I mean? (19:59) It just doesn't.(20:00) We kind of are pretty, pretty balanced, all things considered. (20:02) It's just health, wealth, and love is, is in harmony.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:05) Well, I think people will look at it and say like, well, you're doing. (20:08) You're not taking care of you because it's, it's, it's motion. (20:11) It's actually taking care of you better than most people though.

Alan Lazaros

(20:14) I would say so. (20:15) Yeah. (20:15) Yeah.(20:16) Yeah. (20:16) I would say. (20:16) And then you're in love like you and Taryn.(20:18) Like we are, we, we have health, wealth, and love in harmony. (20:21) So we'll have to do a part two for sure. (20:23) But we're going to do a part two for anyone out there who does think that I'm an aggressive, tenacious, overly focused, obsessive workaholic.(20:33) Here's what I would say. (20:34) Number one, that's definitely not true. (20:36) I have a wonderful life behind the scenes that is far better than it's ever been before.(20:41) Number two, I am dedicated beyond what I could possibly share with you. (20:47) Because it's deep. (20:48) It's in here.(20:48) It's in my heart and it's in my mind. (20:51) But I do think most people could dial up. (20:55) Like you and I talked about earlier dialing.(20:57) We need to be the most dialed in in 2026. (20:59) Dial it in, dial it in, dial it in, dial it in. (21:02) If you want to be around people who are dialed in, you will succeed if you do that.(21:08) I will help you dial in your habits, dial in your metrics. (21:11) Make sure you're headed somewhere great. (21:13) It's like a vacation you look forward to, except that's your life now.(21:17) I feel like most people do not achieve their goals and dreams. (21:19) The statistics show only 4% of people have clear written goals. (21:22) It is crazy to me.(21:25) Clear written goals and dreams give life meaning. (21:28) And I'm not saying you've got to go all the way to my end, but you gotta dial up in 2026. (21:33) And I have five spots remaining on my roster.(21:36) I will dedicate my practice to making sure you are the most successful version of yourself.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:42) Boom. (21:43) And if you're looking for a community to go hand in hand with one-on-one coaching, we have Next Level Nation private Facebook group. (21:49) We'll have the link in the show notes for that.(21:50) As always, we love you. (21:51) We appreciate you. (21:52) Grateful for each and every one of you.(21:53) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single freaking day to help you get there. (22:00) Keep leveling up to your true potential.

Alan Lazaros

(22:03) Next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:04) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (22:09) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(22:11) We mean it when we say family. (22:13) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (22:16) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:20) Thank you again. (22:21) And we will talk to you tomorrow.