A Question We All Should Ask Ourselves (2289)

Hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros confront a simple but uncomfortable reality most people never question the thinking that drives their behavior. They break down how intentional questions sharpen self-awareness, shape daily decision-making, and determine whether personal growth is sustainable or quietly stalled. Built on years of coaching experience and thousands of real conversations, this episode points toward deeper ownership, stronger identity, and long-term fulfillment.

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Show notes:
(2:30) Meaningful image and signal over noise
(4:43) The absence of strong male role models
(6:23) The question that keeps you aligned
(8:52) Why someone must go first in vulnerability
(13:41) Identity change Vs. Surface-level fixes
(18:32) Owning hard truths about yourself
(21:36) Why shallow conversations block fulfillment
(24:36) Success is internal before it is external
(26:53) Outro

🎙️ Hosted by Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Chapters

• 2:30 Meaningful image and signal over noise
• 4:43 The absence of strong male role models
• 6:23 The question that keeps you aligned
• 8:52 Why someone must go first in vulnerability
• 13:41 Identity change Vs. Surface-level fixes
• 18:32 Owning hard truths about yourself
• 21:36 Why shallow conversations block fulfillment
• 24:36 Success is internal before it is external
• 26:53 Outro

Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) I will throw this line out there, whether it's true or not, I don't know. (0:06) The level of questions you ask yourself will dictate the level of success you get in life.

Alan Lazaros

(0:13) Questions change the way you think, which will change the way you act, which will change the way you live.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:20) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:23) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:24) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.(0:27) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no-BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:34) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:41) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(0:56) Self-improvement, in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:03) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:08) Next Level Nation, today for episode number 2,289, a question we all should ask ourselves. (1:15) You, the way you did your little cold open there reminded me of a blooper from the old Hyper Conscious podcast, where I don't, I can't even explain it, but I shared it with you recently and I laughed hysterically when I was watching it, so I wanted to do it. (1:30) Okay, you and I had a conversation behind the scenes, and we were talking about questions, and you said you and Emilia had a powerful question that you had practiced recently.(1:41) The floor is yours, good sir.

Alan Lazaros

(1:43) Emilia and I do themes for your podcast and wonder if you actually said out loud what you thought. (1:50) All the time. (1:51) I was listening to the commitment episode earlier this morning, and what word did I slur completely?(2:01) Sustainable. (2:02) I tried to say sustainable, and it was like so, but you don't notice it at the time. (2:08) At the time, I thought I was enunciating perfectly.(2:11) Yeah. (2:11) Did I laugh? (2:13) I think you let it slide, because you didn't want to interrupt my flow.(2:17) Sometimes I, yeah, I bite my tongue. (2:19) Yeah, same. (2:21) Same, actually quite a bit, to be honest, especially when you haven't had any fucking sleep.(2:25) All right. (2:25) Hmm. (2:26) Emilia and I, every year, have a new theme.(2:30) We have it on our whiteboard, and the theme for this year is meaningful image. (2:39) What does that mean? (2:41) I have trouble with social media.(2:44) I want to help people, want love hate framework. (2:46) I want to coach. (2:47) I love coaching.(2:48) I hate social media. (2:50) Now, I got lost in the sauce for a while there, where I was posting things, and it's like, if it doesn't mean anything to me, I can't post it. (2:59) I need it to be meaningful to me.(3:01) So meaning is what we're orienting around. (3:02) So there's a couple of mantras we have for the year, and I'll explain. (3:06) So the first one is signal over noise.(3:10) There is a meaningful image, meaning your reputation does matter as business owner. (3:15) How do you make it meaningful? (3:18) And then there's one more, no deviation from the mean, which we did an episode on.(3:22) Go back and listen to that. (3:23) Do you remember what the title was, by any chance? (3:25) I don't, I don't.(3:27) No deviation from the mean is basically just volatility is the enemy of the compound effect, aka we'd rather you have consistent 80% days than spotty 100s. (3:39) Okay. (3:41) Now, what does that have to do with this episode?(3:45) Emily and I did a relationship talks virtual event last night, and it was about male role models. (3:52) We used the movie Good Will Hunting, one of my favorite movies of all time. (3:56) To showcase what a positive male role model looks like.(4:01) Robin Williams in that film represents a positive, healthy, masculine male role model, and the MIT professor kind of not so much. (4:10) And while I think you kind of need both, Robin Williams was definitely the one that helped him heal from his past. (4:15) He was an orphan who was beaten and abused, but in the event, we talked about who here has a male role model that has not fallen from the pedestal.(4:22) Now, mind you, relationship talks, virtual events are private events behind the scenes. (4:27) And the majority of the attendees tend to have high awareness of the traumas of their past. (4:34) And what we found in the event is that a couple stats, I'm just going to throw it here.(4:43) 90% of violent crimes. (4:45) Plus look this up. (4:46) Don't take my word for it.(4:47) I'm not giving exact stats. (4:48) I need to give a disclaimer. (4:50) I'm not giving exact stats.(4:51) This is the research we did. (4:53) I'm paraphrasing. (4:55) All right.(4:56) 90% plus of violent crimes are men. (5:02) 80% of suicides are men. (5:06) And only one in eight men report symptoms of mental health issues.(5:12) Even though eight of eight have mental health challenges. (5:16) And you and I have told each other things that we never told anybody in those early days that was like very vulnerable. (5:25) So the idea here is Emilie and I were with a young man named Dante.(5:30) And this was probably three or four months ago. (5:36) It's her little cousin. (5:37) And Dante is this 14-year-old boy who he's just curious and he's kind.(5:43) He's a good kid. (5:44) And we had a blast with him. (5:46) And we went to paddle boarding and we went fishing.(5:53) And well, in all honesty, I would have preferred to spend that weekend with Emilie. (5:59) Dante is a good kid and we spent some deep time with him. (6:02) We went swimming with him and he's checking his heart rate.(6:05) He's asking us about fitness and nutrition and all kinds of cool stuff. (6:07) And we had a big positive influence on Dante. (6:10) And so Emilie said, I was struggling with social media lately.(6:14) And she said, what if, what if we treated it like this? (6:16) What if the impact we had on Dante? (6:20) What if we ask ourselves this question after every post?(6:23) If Dante saw that post, would I be proud of the way I was a role model to him? (6:31) And you and I swear and, you know, we're not always super, sometimes I think I can be rough around the edges. (6:39) And I don't want to be perfect.(6:41) Quite frankly, I genuinely don't. (6:43) Like I like swearing every now and then. (6:46) But I also do want to always keep that in mind.(6:50) And I don't think, I think it's constructive if you ask this question. (6:55) If I had children, would I be proud of the way I am being and them seeing me be that way? (7:04) Would I be a positive role model?(7:08) And if you can't answer yes to that, I do think that's a hell of a question to keep yourself in alignment. (7:14) Because one thing I was alarmed by at this event is only one person in the room. (7:19) And there was 11 people there.(7:22) Only one person in the room raised their hand and said they still have a positive male role model who hasn't fallen from the pedestal. (7:30) One. (7:31) It was Amy.(7:32) Amy's dad. (7:33) Shout out to her dad. (7:34) Shout out to pops.(7:35) And everyone else was like, um, honestly at this stage, no. (7:42) That is super alarming. (7:43) And that also made me think, we've got our work cut out for us.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:50) Well, you and I, we've shared many times about how painful this journey has been for that very reason. (7:55) I was talking to somebody about that today. (7:56) They were like, what do you think of this person?(7:57) And I was like, fuck that person. (7:58) They suck. (7:59) They suck.(8:00) I have no, no interest in ever knowing that human. (8:03) They seem like they're terrible, a terrible person. (8:06) Right.(8:08) But I don't know if they have a big following. (8:10) They have a lot of people following them, unfortunately. (8:12) Right.(8:13) So if anything, that maybe that's a, that's a piece of the problem too. (8:17) But it's a heavy question. (8:21) It's a heavy question.

Alan Lazaros

(8:23) Yeah. (8:24) You and I talked about, go ahead, go ahead. (8:26) No, no, go ahead.(8:28) I asked Kev earlier, this was behind the scenes, and I didn't really ask him, but I was talking with him of, do men struggle to have heart to hearts? (8:38) Yes. (8:38) Because I feel like I have heart to hearts all the time.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:42) I share this on podcasts pretty often. (8:47) One of the questions I get is like, how do you practice vulnerability? (8:49) How do you, how do you start the process of being vulnerable?(8:52) And I always tell the story of somebody has to go first. (8:57) This is why it's so hard in men's groups. (8:58) Somebody has to go first.(9:00) Somebody has to be the one to put themselves out there and risk potential rejection. (9:04) I said, what I did in my friend group is every time I would hang out with my friends, I would hug them and say, I love you at the end. (9:12) I love you, brother.(9:14) I'd say that. (9:15) And in the beginning, it was weird as shit. (9:17) And I had one of my buddies who was like, what the fuck, dude?(9:20) And then eventually it just got normal. (9:22) It just got normal. (9:24) Why?(9:26) Because that's not, I don't know. (9:28) That's not masculine or whatever. (9:30) I don't know.(9:31) Whatever they grew up with this, this person grew up. (9:35) Their dad wasn't around a lot. (9:36) They worked really hard to provide them with a life.(9:39) There was not, I'm sure there was not a lot of, I love yous and a lot of hugs. (9:43) So it just wasn't normal to them, but that's the thing. (9:47) Somebody has to go first.(9:48) I'm convinced. (9:50) One of the reasons is many of the groups that we're in, the person who needs to have the courage to go first, doesn't feel safe going first. (10:03) That, because you don't know how people are going to react.(10:05) I say, I love you all the time. (10:06) We've cried. (10:07) We've, geez, you and I have balled our eyes out together on, I could even count how many occasions on the show, on the show, but that's a very, very unique thing.(10:17) Like that doesn't happen that often. (10:20) I think I'm learning that.

Alan Lazaros

(10:26) My favorite part of partying back in the day was heart to hearts at the end of the night. (10:31) That was my favorite thing, dude. (10:33) Yeah.(10:34) Well, you can't have a post game without a pregame and a game, but, but the post game was always awesome because that's when people got vulnerable and talked about their life and what they want to achieve. (10:44) And for me, heart to hearts are one thing I will share. (10:51) There have been situations where I'm at a dinner table with a group of people and I'll sit there in my own head and I'll be like, I don't think we can talk about anything meaningful.(11:03) We can talk about sports and we can talk about politics and we can talk about external shit, but no one's talking about themselves. (11:10) No one's talking about what's in here, like what they're going through, what their life is like, what their dreams and goals are. (11:17) I guess that's a really vulnerable thing.(11:18) It's a vulnerable place to go. (11:20) I think that's one of the reasons why the majority of our listeners were women. (11:26) Because I think women, statistically speaking, have way more heart to hearts.(11:30) For sure. (11:31) For sure. (11:32) There's no way that's not the case.(11:38) I just think that say things that matter to people who care. (11:45) If you don't talk about your goals and dreams and you don't talk about what you're going through and you don't talk about how you feel and what you think, what if that sounds terrible?

Kevin Palmieri

(11:57) Less judgment though. (11:58) I've told this story before. (11:59) I was hanging out with a group of friends one time and we were passing a joint around lying on the dock looking up at the stars.(12:07) I remember I said something like, isn't it crazy to think that we're on a rock that's just spinning through nothingness and none of this matters at all, but it also matters more than anything ever possibly could. (12:17) They were like, what the fuck? (12:19) I was right.(12:20) I'm right. (12:21) I know I'm right.

Alan Lazaros

(12:23) Whatever. (12:23) I think about that all the time. (12:24) Not that exact thing, but the vastness of the universe.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:27) Drive down the road without looking up and saying like, well, this is fucking weird. (12:32) This whole thing. (12:33) It's weird.(12:34) I'm just like driving on a rock, you know? (12:37) Okay. (12:38) Okay.

Alan Lazaros

(12:39) Good, good, good. (12:42) Life would be, what would that even be like to not contemplate easier in the short run?

Kevin Palmieri

(12:49) The heaviness. (12:51) There are certain things when you understand you can't, when you, when you get revealed, you can't put back in the box.

Alan Lazaros

(12:58) Yeah. (12:59) That's one of them is this. (13:02) I had a moment of, oh, I'm always the initiator of heart to hearts.(13:08) Always.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:10) I'm, I'm willing to bet. (13:12) One of the reasons is they know they're safe to do it with you. (13:15) That's a piece.(13:17) If somebody's going to go first, you go first, which opens the door to them to do it.

Alan Lazaros

(13:22) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:23) That's a piece of it for sure.

Alan Lazaros

(13:25) I actually had a shout out to you, brother. (13:27) I had a coaching session that was really powerful recently where I coach someone who has a team and he coaches his whole team. (13:37) And he was telling me all this stuff about this, that, and the other thing.(13:41) And I said to him, you can't just coach on professional development. (13:46) I think you might need to, I said, do you know how many times I've risked our relationship by going personal? (13:52) Like, so for example, you know how I used to say things like anyone can teach you how to lose weight, but almost no one can get you to actually do it.(13:59) The reason I can get people to actually do it is I go deeper. (14:03) If you can't go deep underneath the, the, why you do what you do, what's motivating you, what's not motivating. (14:10) Like if you can't face that shit, you're not going to change.(14:15) I mean, yeah, you can put a new coat of paint on it, but it's not real change. (14:21) And I think that a lot of people have a hard time. (14:23) And this is a man that I'm coaching and I could see, oh, I saw the light bulb of, it's like, can you imagine if I never got underneath Kev, I can't change your trajectory of your future without figuring out what the hell is going on in there.(14:40) And I think that maybe one of the reasons why we don't change for the better is because we don't, um, high-level metaphor with my clients. (14:54) I'm reprogramming them. (14:55) That's what they're paying me for.(14:57) Let me explain instead of it coming off triggering. (15:00) You have inputs, outputs, measure, adjust. (15:03) Inputs are your habits.(15:06) Outputs are the goals that you set. (15:08) Measurement is, uh, metrics and then adjust is the coaching sessions. (15:15) And then the center is your identity, who you think you are versus who you really are and then who you need to be.(15:20) And then there's knowledge, attitude, skills, and all that. (15:24) And most of the time people don't achieve their goals and dreams from what I've found because the goals they want are incongruent with the person they are. (15:31) And so you have to change the person you are in order to get to the goals you want.(15:34) And I don't mean change, like you at your core, your core actually has to stay the same and you have to uncover and become a better version of it is a better way to put it. (15:41) I actually think that the, the ignorant version of self-improvement is I don't like that I'm an extrovert, so I'm going to go try to be an introvert. (15:50) I think the wiser approach in my thirties is identify that you're an extrovert and then build your success around that and then hire someone or work with someone who's an introvert to, to come compliment you.(16:04) And so my point though, is if you can't reprogram yourself, if you can't go deep into the depths underneath the iceberg, you can't reprogram yourself. (16:13) And honestly, I actually don't think you can be fulfilled. (16:16) When I got in my car accident, I had what's known as an ego death.(16:20) I faced mortality and I had to face all the hard truths that I was maybe avoiding about my past that unlocked me and freed me up to then go rebuild myself from the ground up. (16:34) And I guess you kind of have to do that as a coach. (16:38) If you really want to help people, anyone can tell you how to, you know, go to the gym more often.(16:43) And, but if you, why aren't you doing it? (16:45) Everyone knows exercise more. (16:47) The reason you're not doing it is that the stuff inside, that's the hard stuff though.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:54) That's the hard stuff. (16:55) Like there, there's what, okay. (16:57) What happens when you learn and then you decide you want to stop going to the gym and working with that person?(17:01) Like you still know the thing that you, I think it's empowering. (17:05) So I think it's, I think it's a thousand percent worth it. (17:07) But there were, there were points along the journey where I don't know if I, if I felt that way.

Alan Lazaros

(17:11) Can you give me an example? (17:13) What's a tangible example that like was uncovered that you didn't like?

Kevin Palmieri

(17:18) The fact that I, I literally had to own the fact that I wasn't smart enough yet. (17:25) Like that was so hard. (17:27) So you were hiding from that and you basically.(17:30) I don't think I was hiding from it. (17:32) I just don't think I was aware of it. (17:36) But I don't, Alan and I were at, we were at a Brant Pinvidick's house in somewhere in the hills of California, this fucking mansion outside by the pool.(17:49) Brant was cooking us Benny Hanna style dinner on. (17:52) It's weird. (17:53) It's a very weird situation.(17:54) But here I am at a mansion supposed to be like, this should be it. (18:01) Like I made it quote unquote, right? (18:02) This is awesome.(18:03) One of the best interviews ever of all time. (18:05) And I'm questioning everything because I can't hang in a conversation about business. (18:09) That, that realization.(18:12) I think that's why the ego, the ego wanted me to say, well, Alan's arrogant and Brant's arrogant and they're just arrogant, blah, blah, blah. (18:18) Like, that's what I wanted to say. (18:20) It's easier to say that in the short run, but that once I had that, it was like, yeah, I don't, I'm, I think it's my deepest fear was the identity of I'm not smart enough.(18:32) Now I have to admit that I'm not smart enough yet. (18:35) That's the first step, but that's the, usually the first step is the most painful step.

Alan Lazaros

(18:39) Yeah. (18:39) At least it feels like it's not always, but the gold is buried where you least want to dig, but you have to do that. (18:48) Anyone can do it.(18:51) Okay. (18:52) This, I don't want to offend anyone, but I need to say this. (18:54) You can heal from within and like get healthy or you can get plastic surgery, right?(19:01) One of them actually solves the root cause. (19:04) And the other one is just vanity metrics. (19:08) And you got to go to the root cause, which is always inside.(19:12) It's your emotional, mental, and spiritual health. (19:14) And then, and then your physical actions are a manifestation of that. (19:18) And I don't want that to sound too fluffy, but yeah, if anyone wants to reinvent themselves, you've got to start with the private conversations behind the scenes that you don't want to face.(19:30) Maybe you don't want to face where you came from. (19:32) Maybe you don't want to face who your parents really were. (19:35) Maybe you don't want to face that you have an alcohol problem, whatever it is, it's going to unlock you on the other side of facing it, admitting it, and then working on it.(19:46) You're not going to work on something you're not aware of.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:48) The admitting part though, when you admit something, you have to do something about it. (19:53) I remember when I had like my, um, I think I'm like addicted to porn. (19:57) Like this is a problem that once I said that, I was like, fuck, I have to do something about it.(20:02) First step. (20:03) I know. (20:03) But again, the first step is, it's a lot.(20:06) You get a lot of light in the first step. (20:08) It's like blinding. (20:09) It's, it's overwhelming.(20:10) It's overpowering. (20:12) I think you and I are always on not opposite ends in this, but like, I understand why people bury their head in the sand. (20:17) I do.(20:18) Cause the detriment of it doesn't seem that big. (20:21) I don't think you can be fulfilled longterm doing that though. (20:24) If you don't know what fulfillment is, you don't know what you're missing.(20:28) Yeah. (20:29) You know, I think this is the way obviously, right. (20:33) I've dedicated my life to that.(20:34) I definitely think this is the way.

Alan Lazaros

(20:35) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:36) That's what I don't just was. (20:37) Yeah. (20:38) But I, I don't, it never surprises me that somebody wouldn't want to sign up for it.

Alan Lazaros

(20:43) I think I was hyper-conscious long before. (20:48) I can't remember a time in my life where I wasn't contemplating. (20:51) I can remember some times where I was avoiding pain for sure.(20:53) But like, there was never a time where I wasn't trying to figure it out. (20:58) There was never a time where I was purposely putting my head in the sand. (21:00) That I can say for sure.(21:01) I for sure was. (21:04) For sure. (21:04) I feel very unrelatable in that.(21:06) Yeah. (21:06) That was the big awareness I had yesterday of like, I almost wanted to, and I did at one point, I said, a selfish question. (21:11) Why the hell am I different?(21:13) Cause I, I stopped the whole damn event. (21:15) And I said, Emilia, what, how the hell did this happen? (21:19) I don't feel this way at all.(21:22) And I, I literally said, selfish question. (21:24) And then we, we unpacked it, but yeah, the, the ability to have meaningful conversations about things that matter. (21:36) There's nothing worse than talking about horseshit.(21:39) Like I can't even brother, it's like. (21:42) I know, I know. (21:43) Why does that even matter?(21:44) What are we talking about? (21:45) It's like, did you know so-and-so got a new deck? (21:47) I don't care.(21:48) I don't care. (21:49) Well, you're in an echo chamber. (21:50) You're in a very much an echo chamber.(21:51) Yeah, but the life be the change you wish to see in the world. (21:55) The world would change if, if people. (21:58) That's for sure.(21:59) If people worked on their mental health and their emotional intelligence, I mean, the world would change. (22:03) So I got to advocate for that. (22:05) I do.(22:05) And yeah, I can't stand surface level, useless conversations. (22:09) I have a really hard time with that. (22:10) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:11) My thought is like, I roll in, I moonwalk, say something funny. (22:15) And then people are like, whoa, he seems really well adjusted. (22:19) He must've worked on himself.(22:20) I should see. (22:21) Maybe I'll look into that. (22:22) That's mine.(22:23) That's why I coach behind the scenes.

Alan Lazaros

(22:25) It kind of goes to the networking events.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:26) I try to, I try to, I don't know. (22:32) Yeah. (22:32) I don't try to sell it.(22:33) It's more like, I mean, yeah, it's, I mean, it sucks. (22:36) It blows. (22:37) It's going to be brutal and be fulfilled.(22:41) Pretty good. (22:42) That's pretty freaking good.

Alan Lazaros

(22:43) I can't ask for much more than that. (22:44) I need you to sell it better than that, man.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:44) I do.

Alan Lazaros

(22:45) We're going to change the world. (22:46) I need you to sell it better than that.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:47) I can't imagine a better alternative. (22:50) I don't, it's like a, the maze is really hard and it's really challenging and it's dark. (22:59) And there, there's things that jump out in the corners that scare you.(23:02) And if you get too close to the wall, there's pricker bushes, but like you can't just lie down in the corner and let life happen. (23:10) That's not the, you, you can get through the maze, but you can't get through the maze of just lie down and say, well, this is it. (23:17) Like, that's not, you're not going to be fulfilled.(23:19) You'd be way more fulfilled getting pricker bushes stuck in your arm as you're climbing over the thing to get to the next level in the journey than you would if you just lay down. (23:27) That's awesome.

Alan Lazaros

(23:28) I'd love to hear from the ladies. (23:29) DM Kevin and I. (23:33) That, I don't mean it like that.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:34) No, it's just. (23:35) Yeah. (23:35) No, no, that's not what I meant.(23:37) Don't take that.

Alan Lazaros

(23:38) Don't take that out of context. (23:40) The fact that I even have to. (23:41) No, but.(23:42) You don't, you don't. (23:42) We, we, we coach couples and I coach. (23:45) Yeah.(23:45) You know the deal. (23:46) I would love to hear, cause I was thinking to myself, like, is that why Taryn wanted to be with you? (23:52) Probably.(23:52) I think that's a piece of it, right? (23:54) Because the women at the event were very in the chat last thing. (24:03) Cause I know we got to go, but there's that super famous quote in relationships.(24:08) I coach couples where you can only meet your partner as much as you've met yourself. (24:15) And I asked the ladies in the room, what is that like for you? (24:20) Cause it was the top three things men struggle with.(24:23) And the number one thing is going inward. (24:26) And Amy, shout out to you. (24:28) She put in the chat.(24:29) It's like you very quickly get to know them better than they know themselves. (24:34) And then when you realize they don't want to go there, you just feel like alone. (24:40) And her husband, Chris has totally transformed all this in some parts.(24:43) Thanks to Amy's courage, by the way. (24:45) So shout out to both of them. (24:46) They are the OG conscious couple, Amy and Chris.(24:49) So no, no, nothing negative to say. (24:51) But what I will say is if you're out there watching this show, you obviously want to go inward. (24:58) I don't think there's any episodes where we only talk about the economy.(25:02) Not if I have my way. (25:04) But that's, that's gotta be one of the reasons why our show doesn't blow up as quick. (25:09) Because if people are avoiding going inward and all we do is talk about that, that's gotta be like, I know exactly why.

Kevin Palmieri

(25:15) Because we don't click bait titles and we don't, we, I think because we talk about what's real. (25:23) I think that's what it is. (25:25) And like I, at this point, I don't want it to honestly, I want to, I want to keep a very can't, I want to keep a very awesome group of humans who are really good people.(25:35) It has to be meaningful conversations. (25:36) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(25:37) Yeah. (25:37) And so if anyone's out there watching or listening, I hope you reach out. (25:41) Let us know why you listen.(25:42) Why is this show different? (25:44) I've had several people say, once, once you go NLU, you can't go to other podcasts. (25:48) I would love to hear your feedback.

Kevin Palmieri

(25:50) It's the goal for sure. (25:51) That's the goal. (25:52) Yeah.(25:52) This is, this is the best. (25:53) Being able to have deep conversations every day is the best. (25:57) I think we lose sight of that.

Alan Lazaros

(25:58) I do for sure. (26:01) My whole world now is deep conversations. (26:03) It's great.(26:04) And that's why, that's why so many breakthroughs and stuff. (26:06) I coach people deeply every day.

Kevin Palmieri

(26:08) I do a lot of different coaching now. (26:10) So I think I understand the.

Alan Lazaros

(26:12) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(26:12) The contrast. (26:12) I used to do a lot of that coaching.

Alan Lazaros

(26:15) And now it's like.

Kevin Palmieri

(26:16) When you were mindset coaching, yeah. (26:17) Now it's different. (26:18) And I also like it because that coaching is heavy.(26:22) That's heavy. (26:23) It takes a lot out of you.

Alan Lazaros

(26:24) I get to talk about. (26:25) I do both. (26:25) I help people grow their companies and their strategy and all that too.(26:28) But we also go inward. (26:29) We do. (26:30) For sure.

Kevin Palmieri

(26:30) All right. (26:31) So if you're looking for either of those types of coaching, reach out to Alan. (26:34) No matter what, you're going to get all of them.(26:36) Success is as much internal as it is external. (26:39) It just doesn't look like it necessarily. (26:40) A hundred percent.(26:41) Right. (26:41) And if you're trying to get around other amazing people who are focused on getting to the next level and willing to have vulnerable, deep conversations that are actually meaningful and transformational, we have a private Facebook group called Next Level Nation. (26:52) We'll have the link in the show notes for that as well.(26:53) As always, we love you. (26:55) We appreciate you. (26:55) Grateful for each and every one of you.(26:57) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single day to help you get there. (27:04) Keep leveling up to your true potential.

Alan Lazaros

(27:07) Next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri

(27:08) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (27:13) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(27:15) We mean it when we say family. (27:17) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (27:21) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri

(27:24) Thank you again, and we will talk to you tomorrow.