How Much “Obsession” Is Bad? (2296)

Focused people build uncommon results. In today’s episode, Kevin and Alan challenge the way commitment and focus are misunderstood in personal development. They break down why progress often looks extreme to people who avoid responsibility, discomfort, and judgment. This conversation centers on belief, identity, and consistency. It exposes how fear of disapproval limits execution, why most goals are capped by perceived capability, and what it actually takes to sustain results over time.

If you are done negotiating with your standards and want clarity over comfort, this episode will sharpen how you think, choose, and execute. Listen with intent. Act without consensus. Let the results explain the rest.

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Show notes:
(1:55) What obsession actually means
(6:43) Obsession without alignment causes damage
(10:27) Judgment as the real cost of growth
(12:41) Obsession equals focus and results
(14:12) Fear of judgment Vs. Belief in self
(17:31) Why belief determines long-term success
(22:02) Outro

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Chapters

• 1:55 What obsession actually means
• 6:43 Obsession without alignment causes damage
• 10:27 Judgment as the real cost of growth
• 12:41 Obsession equals focus and results
• 14:12 Fear of judgment Vs. Belief in self
• 17:31 Why belief determines long-term success
• 22:02 Outro

Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) Obsession is one of those words that often gets used as a negative. (0:05) Why are you so obsessed with a gym? (0:07) Why are you so obsessed with money?(0:09) Why are you so obsessed with whatever? (0:11) Today we're going to talk about obsession, and I think maybe the goal of today's episode is to rebuild our relationship with what obsession means to us.

Alan Lazaros

(0:18) What if you're obsessed with getting better? (0:21) What if you're obsessed with achieving your goals? (0:23) And what if those goals are actually good for the world as well?

Kevin Palmieri

(0:26) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:29) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:30) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.(0:33) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no-BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dreamchasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:40) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:46) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(1:02) Self-improvement in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:09) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:14) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2,296. (1:18) How much obsession is bad? (1:21) I know that people see somebody that's in the gym all the time.(1:27) I know Alan loves to go on Friday night, Saturday night. (1:30) You like the late night solo, nobody at the gym days. (1:35) And somebody might look at that and say, Oh my god, they're so obsessed.(1:38) Alan and Amelia are so obsessed. (1:39) Or us with a podcast. (1:41) Why are you guys so obsessed with a podcast?(1:43) You think people think that? (1:44) I don't know. (1:46) I don't care, honestly.(1:48) I think, but I am also. (1:49) I am obsessed, for sure. (1:51) You don't do something this many times without having some level of...(1:55) For sure. (1:55) What is obsession? (1:56) I think obsession is a very, very large level of commitment beyond what people think is traditionally healthy.(2:04) Agreed. (2:05) I would say. (2:06) I appreciate that.(2:07) But it's exactly what it is. (2:08) And here's the truth. (2:10) You being as obsessed with the things I am obsessed with probably isn't healthy for you.(2:15) But it doesn't mean it is for me. (2:17) And that means like... (2:20) What's a good example?(2:22) I've been learning a lot about Sir Isaac Newton and some older folks back through history. (2:31) And they were like obsessed. (2:34) I have no idea.(2:34) I watch weird shit on YouTube. (2:36) It's like a short biography. (2:39) Yeah.(2:39) Super obsessive. (2:40) Obsessed with learning. (2:42) Obsessed with curiosity.(2:43) Obsessed with moving things forward. (2:47) And we remember those people. (2:49) Now, we also know...(2:51) We remember a lot of people because they were obsessed with bad things as well. (2:54) But that's the opening to this conversation. (2:56) Let's take it from there.

Alan Lazaros

(2:57) Isaac Newton.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:01) Who else? (3:01) Who's the... (3:02) Who drew Mona Lisa?(3:06) Leonardo da Vinci. (3:07) I learned a lot about Leonardo da Vinci as well.

Alan Lazaros

(3:09) He, smartest person to ever walk this planet, I think.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:15) You think?

Alan Lazaros

(3:16) Yeah, I do.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:17) Holistically. (3:18) I watched a video on somebody who evidently had the highest IQ, 250 plus. (3:24) Went to Harvard at 11.

Alan Lazaros

(3:26) That's a lonely life.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:27) Harvard at 11 years of age. (3:31) I don't remember the gentleman's name. (3:35) Wasn't fluent, but knew six languages...(3:38) Eight languages at the age of six. (3:40) What are we doing here? (3:41) What are we doing here?(3:42) Insane.

Alan Lazaros

(3:44) Yeah, that's awesome. (3:48) So, this idea of an obsessive... (3:52) And this goes all the way back to addictive personalities.(3:55) I actually... (3:57) When I was younger, I used to think everyone has an addictive personality. (4:00) It just depends what you're addicted to.(4:02) And again, I grew up in an environment where I saw a lot of addiction. (4:05) And now I realize I do have more of an addictive personality, probably than most. (4:10) And what I mean by that is I get really into stuff.(4:15) Deeply passionate, deeply obsessed. (4:18) You and I, we're going to play COD. (4:21) And we were watching Twitch TV once in the studio.(4:24) And I said, I can't.

Kevin Palmieri

(4:25) You gotta turn it off.

Alan Lazaros

(4:25) I gotta turn it off. (4:26) I'm going to get too into this. (4:28) Because for me, I never really wanted to do something unless I wanted to do it to the max.(4:34) That's how I am. (4:36) And that's why I have to be very careful with what I choose. (4:41) So, upsides, downsides, obsessiveness.(4:44) You used to think obsession was bad. (4:50) You didn't identify as obsessive.

Kevin Palmieri

(4:52) Ah, with fitness, I did. (4:55) With fitness, I did, yeah. (4:57) Again, not to be arrogant.(4:59) Yeah, I was far and ahead in better shape than anybody I knew for most of my life. (5:04) And I was the guy who... (5:06) I remember...(5:07) Did you consider yourself an addictive personality?

Alan Lazaros

(5:09) No, but I was obsessed with fitness. (5:11) Yeah. (5:12) Did you consider yourself an obsessive?(5:14) Did you identify as that?

Kevin Palmieri

(5:15) I don't think I knew what that was.

Alan Lazaros

(5:16) Yeah. (5:17) So now that you do, when you reflect back, you obviously were in certain things. (5:23) What are the pros and cons?

Kevin Palmieri

(5:26) The pros are you get really good at the thing. (5:29) As long as it's a positive. (5:31) I mean, fitness...(5:33) There's worse things to be obsessed over. (5:36) Fitness is definitely on the higher end of positive. (5:39) Now, you could take anything too far, right?(5:40) You could be... (5:41) Ronnie Coleman took it too far. (5:42) Ronnie Coleman took it too far.(5:44) He destroyed himself.

Alan Lazaros

(5:45) He did destroy himself. (5:46) Yeah. (5:47) But there's a lot of wiggle room between where most people are and Ronnie Coleman.(5:51) I wonder if you asked him, though, if he could do it over if he would. (5:54) He would say he would, but I think he's lying. (5:58) He would say he would or wouldn't?(6:00) He would say he would. (6:01) Do it differently? (6:02) No, he would say he wouldn't do anything differently.(6:05) But I think that's still him not owning the fact that he's made terrible choices that have destroyed his life.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:13) And again, that's just my... (6:16) Best motivational YouTube videos on the planet, though. (6:18) Oh, for sure.(6:19) Lightweight, baby! (6:22) Dude was so strong. (6:23) Oh my god.(6:24) Shout out to Bianca. (6:27) We'll post to the next fitness accountability group and she'll say that. (6:31) Lightweight, baby!(6:32) We used to say that all the time when we were working out together.

Alan Lazaros

(6:34) That's what's up. (6:35) But he destroyed himself completely.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:37) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(6:38) And I do think that most people who destroy themselves do regret it. (6:41) They just don't want to admit that publicly.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:43) Well, obsession without alignment is bad. (6:46) Agreed. (6:46) Or at least weigh the pros and cons.(6:49) So that's essentially what we're talking about. (6:50) The pros is if it's something of value, you get really good at it and you're probably statistically better at it than most people. (6:57) That's one.(6:59) Another pro is as long as it's a good thing, it's fulfilling. (7:04) That's one. (7:05) The con is you feel extremely lonely until you find the people that do the same thing that you do.(7:10) Super loney. (7:11) You're super loney. (7:13) Nothing worse than being loney until you find your people.(7:17) Until you find your people. (7:19) I think one of the reasons we're so, I'll speak for myself. (7:21) One of the reasons I'm more fulfilled now than I've ever been is I am surrounded by podcasters all the time.(7:28) Podcasters, content creators, coaches. (7:30) I'm surrounded by business owners, entrepreneurs. (7:33) It's, I had a conversation with somebody yesterday about one of our clients about entrepreneurship and I said, what are the top five books?(7:39) Let's do a video on the top five books. (7:40) None of them were business books. (7:42) They were all who not how was one.(7:47) The top seven habits of highly effective people was one. (7:51) They're all personal development books that help this person grow as a business owner. (7:56) So it's, it can be very, very, very lonely.(7:58) I remember people used to, my mom and grandmother, I used to go to the gym twice a day back in the day and they would judge the shit out of me. (8:05) So Kevin, it's not, it's not healthy. (8:07) You can't, you got to make sure you're eating enough.(8:10) That's not healthy. (8:11) I know what I'm, with all due respect, I know what I'm doing here. (8:16) Okay.(8:16) I know what I'm doing. (8:18) So you're going to get, you're going to get judged depending on who you're around. (8:25) I have one for you.

Alan Lazaros

(8:26) Hold on. (8:27) Sorry. (8:27) We're sorry.(8:28) My goodness. (8:28) I just opened my audible. (8:30) I have one for you.(8:31) This book, when you read it, you'll be very pleasantly surprised how good it is. (8:35) Let me get my audible out right now. (8:37) It's called All It Takes is a Goal by a man named John Acuff.(8:42) J-O-N-A-C-U-F-F. (8:45) Okay. (8:46) I was pleasantly surprised.(8:47) He is engaging and funny. (8:52) I, now I'll give you both sides of the coin. (8:54) On one side of the coin, I think he's overly fluffy unnecessarily.(8:59) On the other side of the coin, I actually think he's doing a good job engaging people with Kohl's. (9:04) So he's doing something that. (9:05) Just purchased.(9:06) Nice. (9:07) You're going to like it, I think. (9:08) And I, when I listened to it, I was like, there's some really good ideas in this.(9:14) And I wish he didn't have to be so clowny to get people to like the ideas. (9:18) Yeah. (9:19) But it's, there's some ideas in there where it's like, that's really strong.(9:23) That's a really good idea. (9:24) I should, I should do that. (9:25) What's one?(9:25) Give us one. (9:26) What's one? (9:28) Put them on the spot.(9:30) He says, instead of going into your future and setting these massive grand goals, which I do think you should do. (9:36) He said, look at your past. (9:39) What are the things that filled you up the most?(9:40) And he has you list out everything that you loved and everything that you couldn't stand. (9:45) And you have this giant list. (9:46) And he said, now create a future with more of the good stuff.(9:50) I was like, that's interesting. (9:51) He said, instead of learning from, instead of creating a massive vision based on nothing that you've ever experienced, and then hoping that it's what you hoped, you know, instead of imagining a Ferrari and then hoping that you really like it when you get it. (10:03) Why don't you just go in your past and figure out what you actually love that you've already experienced and then expand it in the future.(10:09) I thought that was really something nice. (10:11) Okay, cool. (10:11) Yeah.(10:12) Okay. (10:12) So back to obsession. (10:14) Um, I don't know.(10:21) I don't know if I know the cons are just being obsessed with the wrong things. (10:25) I think that's what the cons are in judgment.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:27) For sure. (10:28) Judgment because people are going to think you're quote unquote crazy. (10:31) If you go being obsessed with something is like you go all in and everything else kind of falls to a degree.

Alan Lazaros

(10:39) Do you think that it's possible to reach your full potential without being called crazy to reach your full potential? (10:49) Yeah. (10:51) No.(10:52) Is there anyone who ever achieved their dreams who wasn't called crazy?

Kevin Palmieri

(10:58) Yes, I think so.

Alan Lazaros

(11:01) Whether now, again, that's the conversation of the ones who changed history though.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:06) No, no. (11:06) If your dream is to make six figures and then eventually be a stay at home parent and like you, I don't think, I think a lot of people would say like, that's well, then again, I think it depends on the time period. (11:17) If you said that like 40 years ago, people would say you were fucking crazy.(11:20) Oh, you want to just only one of you is going to work and you're going to stay home and take care of the kids. (11:24) Like that's fucking crazy. (11:25) It depends.(11:26) I think it depends. (11:26) No, no. (11:26) Well, that was common back then.(11:28) But the six figures. (11:28) That's fair, fair, fair. (11:29) Right.(11:30) But, but like at times, at certain times, I feel like depends on when you say the thing.

Alan Lazaros

(11:35) So that's it. (11:36) The only downsides are judgment and picking the wrong things. (11:40) And look, and being lonely.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:42) Yeah. (11:43) Being lonely. (11:43) No, no.(11:44) Lonely. (11:44) Lonely is the new word. (11:45) That's the new Jeff.(11:46) I was in my closet getting dressed earlier.

Alan Lazaros

(11:51) So that's a weird saying. (11:53) We have a walk-in closet. (11:54) I just realized that now.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:56) No, I was in my shower taking a shower earlier.

Alan Lazaros

(11:58) I, but I was thinking to myself how much judgment I've dealt with in my life.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:08) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(12:09) And I was thinking to myself, do I really care anymore? (12:13) And it's like, well, I don't want to be ego and say, I don't care. (12:16) But I also don't know if I care anymore, which is weird.(12:22) So this is my new conclusion is I still don't like it. (12:27) I like, I don't like not having approval, but I definitely don't need it. (12:32) And I thought that was a breakthrough insight of if you're out there right now, watching or listening, and you, you need to, you want to achieve your goals and dreams and you need to be a little more obsessive, which you do.(12:41) If you want to achieve goals, you have to be a little bit more obsessive. (12:43) That's what that is. (12:45) Obsessive equals focus.(12:46) Focus equals results. (12:49) So you don't have to like not having approval, but you definitely have to deal with it. (12:56) There's no one who achieves great things, who doesn't have disapproval or upset people or.(13:07) So you can't need validation because if you need it, you basically, it cages you completely because what's an example? (13:23) What percentage of what you and I have done with our lives could we not have done if we needed everyone's approval?

Kevin Palmieri

(13:33) Honestly, almost everything that we talk about with pride, like all the things we look back on, like, oh yeah, you left this job to get a better job. (13:41) Like you got judged for sure. (13:43) That I got a job that required a ton of travel and people are like, that's, there's no way that's actually real.(13:48) That's not going to work. (13:48) Like that ended up being bodybuilding show, fitness show, quitting, quitting and starting this. (13:55) And then so many of the things we've done going from one episode to two to three to four to five to six to seven, all of that, all of that stuff.(14:02) We got pushback against, yeah, we got pushback changing the name of the podcast. (14:08) We got pushback on everything from a bunch of different people.

Alan Lazaros

(14:12) I used to say this all the time. (14:13) You and I used to disagree and I actually agree with you now. (14:17) I'll explain.(14:19) Kev used to believe the number one reason people don't achieve their dreams is they don't believe in themselves. (14:24) And I was like, nah, man, it was way back. (14:26) It's because they don't, they fear judgment.(14:29) They fear losing the approval of everybody. (14:31) I think that's a piece of it. (14:32) It's a big fucking piece of it.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:34) I think this is, this is it. (14:36) This is it. (14:37) I'm seeing this the most clearly I've ever seen it.(14:40) Because when people, you sit me down, this is what happens. (14:46) Somebody sits you down and they say, what's your dream? (14:48) And you say the dream and they're like, nah, dude, dream bigger.(14:52) That the dream I gave you is what I believe I can accomplish. (14:55) That's why I gave you the fucking dream. (14:56) If I thought I could accomplish more, I would have fucking said more, sir.(15:01) That's why. (15:01) And then people get, people get convinced that they have to have these massive goals that they don't believe that they can accomplish, but they think, well, nobody else believes they can accomplish it either. (15:11) You're right.(15:12) And that's why they don't fucking accomplish it. (15:14) With the people who do accomplish it, actually believe it. (15:17) They just don't know that they believe it and that you don't.(15:19) And the whole thing's fucked up and I'm breaking it. (15:22) I'm breaking the cycle and I'm telling you an episode.

Alan Lazaros

(15:24) Well, we'll do an episode because you just broke it down too quickly. (15:28) We'll do an episode on it. (15:29) We'll do an episode on it.(15:31) That's too quick. (15:32) Yeah. (15:32) We'll do an episode on it, but I also need, I need to hear it because I agree with you, but I'm also, I've been in it.(15:38) So I know what all that meta was that you just talked about. (15:40) I think you need to break it down in a way that lands. (15:44) So the majority of people.(15:47) Yes. (15:48) I do agree with you. (15:49) I think that's happening all the time.(15:50) That happened my whole life. (15:52) I just happen to be on the better end of it. (15:54) Yes.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:54) I think the majority of people, when they say what their goals are, that's the, that's like the level of goals. (16:02) They actually believe they're capable of achieving.

Alan Lazaros

(16:05) And then people, because they, they, people tell me, you told me you wanted to be as successful as Joe Rogan.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:11) I wanted to be because you gave me the permission to give you a pie in the sky goal. (16:18) You know what my fucking real goal was? (16:20) The goal that was on my fucking vision board, $2 million net worth.(16:22) That was my goal. (16:23) That's what I thought I was capable of. (16:26) And as I, sorry.(16:28) No, no, you're good.

Alan Lazaros

(16:29) No, that's a great start.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:31) That was, that was my goal. (16:32) That's what I believed I was capable of. (16:33) Now that you know what you know, how funny is that now?(16:36) For me, very funny. (16:38) Because, but now because I know what I know. (16:41) That's why I, that's why my goals continue changing.(16:44) I'm not, I don't set goals anymore. (16:47) For the most part. (16:48) I say some wild shit for sure.(16:49) But I don't set goals for the most part based on like, that sounds good. (16:54) Yeah, I feel like now it's like. (16:58) Based on what I know and based on the amount of work I want to do and what I actually think I'm capable of.(17:03) Yeah. (17:03) And how bad I want my life to suck. (17:04) Now it's actually reverse engineered before it was just saying shit.(17:07) That's how most people set goals. (17:09) I can't even. (17:10) New year's resolutions.(17:11) You got, you're watching, you're listening. (17:13) A lot of people around you, they're, they're getting fired up. (17:16) They're like, oh, once the new year starts, baby.(17:18) You're going to see something fresh out of me.

Alan Lazaros

(17:21) We got a new episode on that. (17:22) What's that episode called? (17:23) Because that's fire.(17:25) Like that's what's happening all the time. (17:27) I just happened to be on the wrong end of it and didn't know it. (17:29) Or the right end of it, I guess.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:31) I don't know. (17:31) I don't know what the, I think, I think belief is the equalizer. (17:34) I think belief is the thing that matters more than anything else in this world.(17:37) I think belief is the thing that dictates how far you're going to get sustainably. (17:41) I do. (17:41) I just.

Alan Lazaros

(17:43) Yeah. (17:43) I've met enough people. (17:45) The second thing is judgment.(17:46) Yeah, I agree. (17:47) People are so afraid to be judged by their aunts and their uncles and their. (17:50) Yeah.(17:50) That is constantly a concern. (17:52) And I, and that holds us back from taking action. (17:55) And if you, if you don't believe in yourself and you're afraid of judgment, holy shit, no chance.(18:00) Yeah. (18:00) You have to work on those two things first. (18:04) We're going to do an episode on that, but I want all the listeners to listen to this for a second as if you haven't been.(18:10) But Kev, this is, this is the truth about Kevin and I and our partnership. (18:17) How certain were you March of 2017 when we started partnering and podcasting together? (18:24) How certain were you that we would be this successful?(18:29) Zero. (18:30) Okay. (18:30) I was 10 out of 10.(18:32) I was certain. (18:34) Okay. (18:34) As a matter of fact, I consider us massive failures compared to what I knew is possible.(18:40) And I do still, we're successful. (18:42) We're great. (18:42) Awesome.(18:43) The point is none of me, I'm a hundred percent certain that we could get here. (18:47) None of me was ever questioning whether or not we could get here, dude. (18:51) People ask me that on other podcasts all the time.(18:52) They're like, how did you stick with it? (18:54) And keep believing in yourself like through all the doubt. (18:57) I was like, oh fuck, please don't ask me that question.(19:00) I never doubted this at all. (19:02) Are you at a place where you feel comfortable answering that? (19:05) Yeah.(19:05) That's why I'm saying it right now. (19:06) I used to avoid it like the fucking plague. (19:08) The truth is, hey, I knew all of this was possible the whole time.(19:13) Never once questioned it. (19:14) And Kevin can attest to that. (19:15) If anything, all I said was, Kev, what the are we doing?(19:18) Let's do better. (19:19) We can do better than this. (19:20) We're better than this.(19:21) Like, have you ever seen me shocked that we got here? (19:25) No, no, no, no. (19:27) But here's the thing.(19:28) The point of this is for the listener. (19:30) Which end of that are you on? (19:32) Because if someone else like Kevin comes along and assumes that I'm doing the same thing he's doing.(19:39) Yeah, then you're going to put pie in the sky things. (19:41) I'm going to think you're really mean it.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:43) And you're going to think that I'm full of it. (19:44) But there's delusion too. (19:45) There's a lot.(19:46) I've met a lot of people out there. (19:47) They're like, I know I'm going to be successful. (19:48) It's like, okay, but why though?(19:50) Well, I know it's all going to work out. (19:52) It's like, sure. (19:54) I love that.(19:54) I love the belief, but why though? (19:56) Like, what is the, take me behind the curtain.

Alan Lazaros

(19:59) Yeah, what's the equation you're riding?

Kevin Palmieri

(20:01) Yeah, what's the equation? (20:02) It's like, well, I know, you know, I know I've been a good person. (20:05) So it's going to pay.(20:05) No, fuck that. (20:06) That's not, that ain't it. (20:07) I know a lot of good people that are not successful.(20:10) So many of them.

Alan Lazaros

(20:11) Yeah, yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:12) So many. (20:13) So many.

Alan Lazaros

(20:13) That's actually the problem. (20:14) Are not trying to help more good people be successful. (20:16) Yeah, that ain't it.(20:18) I wanted to read this. (20:19) Working with a great coach has been shown to deliver up to 788% return on investment, meaning the right guidance doesn't just pay for itself. (20:26) It multiplies your results.(20:28) My one-on-one coaching is built to create that kind of return. (20:32) Okay, listen, 2026 will be the same if you don't do something different. (20:37) Get a coach.(20:39) Anyone can teach you how to do things. (20:42) Almost no one can get you to do it. (20:44) And even less people can get you to do it consistently.(20:47) All of my clients track metrics and habits. (20:49) That's a requirement of my coaching. (20:51) You're going to be so dialed in.(20:53) You'll blow yourself out of the water. (20:54) You, you won't even recognize yourself in a couple of years. (20:57) I have one client.(20:58) I started working with him in July of 2024. (21:02) The dude is unrecognizable and he's listening right now. (21:05) He would attest to this.(21:06) I will give you the emails of select clients so you can hear from them, not me. (21:11) If you want to coach, I want to fill my roster even more. (21:13) I've opened my calendar up for one-on-one coaching.(21:15) It's my favorite work in the world. (21:17) If you've been on the fence about getting a coach, give it a shot. (21:19) There's no risk.(21:20) It's pay as you play. (21:21) No long-term contract. (21:22) I don't want to work with anyone who doesn't want to work with me.(21:25) Reach out.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:26) And if you're looking for a sustainable way to journal and get a little reflection every day, we have something called the Next Level Dreamliner. (21:31) We'll have the link in the show notes below for that. (21:34) It's on Amazon.(21:35) We are redesigning. (21:36) Alan said he's going to have it done in the next three days. (21:39) So we'll have a new, a new one redesigned here shortly.(21:41) No stress. (21:42) I'm going to be on Amazon when it's done.

Alan Lazaros

(21:44) He is joking.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:44) I am joking. (21:45) But yes, we are in the process of reiterating. (21:48) And you know how it is.(21:49) We always try to level it up as we go. (21:51) So it'll be version 3.0. Yes, sir. (21:53) 3.0. So keep a lookout on that. (21:55) But it is already on Amazon, the 2.0 version, which is a great place to start. (22:00) $27 here. (22:01) All right, cool.(22:01) As always, we love you. (22:02) We appreciate you. (22:03) Grateful for each and every one of you.(22:04) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single freaking day to help you get there. (22:12) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential.

Alan Lazaros

(22:14) Next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:16) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (22:20) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(22:23) We mean it when we say family. (22:25) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (22:28) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.(22:32) Thank you again, and we will talk to you tomorrow.