You’re The Least Overwhelmed You’ll Ever Be Again (2310)

In today’s episode of Next Level University, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros break down a hard truth most people avoid. Growth does not make life easier. It makes life heavier. This episode reframes overwhelm as a byproduct of expansion rather than a personal flaw, and positions reflection as a critical tool for clarity, self-awareness, and long-term performance.

The conversation centers on identity, responsibility, and the skill of handling more without losing direction. This is not about motivation or inspiration. It is about precision, standards, and building the capacity required to sustain success over time. Listen with intention. Then decide whether you want comfort or capacity.

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Show notes:
(3:09) The truth about success and increasing responsibility
(7:28) Reflection as data, not nostalgia
(11:16) Using feedback and the past as performance input
(14:00) Competence is learning to handle hard better
(16:12) Predicting the future through consistent behavior
(18:28) Vision Vs. Execution in real growth
(19:54) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) Any time I go back into my camera roll or I look at old content, you know I am going through it and I am in my feels. (0:09) Today's episode is based on that.that. (0:11) When you look back at your past and re-watch the movie of your own life, so many things become obvious.(0:19) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:21) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri.ieri. (0:23) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.arus.(0:26) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no-BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers. (0:33) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth. (0:39) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.(0:55) Self-improvement in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:02) Welcome to Next Level University. (1:07) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2310.(1:11) You're the least overwhelmed you'll ever be again. be again. (1:16) Maybe not. (1:17) I think if you want to grow forever, if you are committed to growth, then that is the requirement.

Alan Lazaros

(1:22) Worst motivational speakers of all time.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:24) Yeah, yeah, yeah. (1:25) Every time we drop a fire, you're the most overwhelmed you'll ever be.l ever be. (1:32) Ah, maybe not.(1:33) Maybe not. (1:33) Maybe not everybody. (1:34) We're educational speakers, dude.dude.(1:36) Definitely not motivational speakers. (1:37) The reason is, dude, if I'm going to be the guy who's like, I can't stand the content that is just...that is just... (1:44) Yeah, yeah, yeah.(1:44) 100%. (1:46) Nothing applies to everybody. (1:47) It just doesn't work.work.(1:48) It just nothing applies to everybody. (1:49) Sorry to interrupt you, but I think this is very on point and you'll know that it is.t is. (1:53) I went back on my camera roll today as well, so we're both going through it.h it.(1:56) We're going through it.h it. (1:57) I saw a fitness photo shoot of you and I. (2:00) We were in Crunch.(2:01) Remember that? (2:02) Yeah, yeah, yeah. (2:04) I went through those earlier today.(2:06) Not great. (2:06) Not a great showing. (2:08) We did okay.(2:09) I mean, I was pretty lean. (2:12) Well, yeah, you were preparing. (2:13) I remember we were in Florida and Alan was talking to a photographer.(2:16) That one wasn't good.good. (2:16) Not a good showing. (2:18) I didn't do one in Florida, did I?id I?(2:20) No. (2:20) We were going to do one and then we took our shirts off and we're like, no, we have to cancel this.this. (2:24) Even that one, it was like, I'm definitely not going to be dialed in for this one. one.(2:28) Okay. (2:28) I was going through my camera roll and I went through so many things. (2:34) I went all the way back to the beginning.(2:36) Nice. (2:37) 2017, I was looking at... (2:39) It was wild.(2:41) But I remember in the very beginning, anytime I would get a new client, I would screenshot it and send it to you. (2:52) In the beginning, clients paid us in Venmo.

Alan Lazaros

(2:56) Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:56) I just get a Venmo from a client. (2:58) I would screenshot it and send it to Alan and say, hey man, look at this. (3:01) Look at this.(3:03) I was talking to Taryn today and I am definitely the most overwhelmed I've ever been, ever of all time.time. (3:09) I said, but you know what's weird?eird? (3:10) Five years ago, I was the most overwhelmed I thought I would ever be.(3:16) And then it just kept getting more overwhelming. (3:19) And, and this is the positive part, I always figured it out. (3:23) Did I figure it out perfectly?(3:25) No, that doesn't exist.xist. (3:26) That's not real.real. (3:27) Am I breaking less eggs now than I was in the past?(3:31) Yes. (3:32) And I also have a different reaction to when I do break eggs. (3:35) So that's a whole different conversation.tion.(3:37) But in theory, if you are committed to growth, if you are committed to getting to the next level, if you have a goal, if you have a dream, if you have a purpose that you are committed to getting to, today is the least overwhelmed you will ever be again, because you're going to constantly take on more and become more and take on more and become more.more. (3:54) And unfortunately, and we've talked about this a lot, I think it's really hard to become more before you take on more because the necessity isn't high enough.;t high enough. (4:03) It's just, you're most likely not going to run 26 miles for fun.s for fun.(4:08) If you're training for a marathon, you're probably going to run more. run more. (4:10) You're, you're most likely not going to just wake up one day and start dieting.t dieting. (4:14) But if you have a wedding in eight months, like the example I used in yesterday's episode, you have a reason to become more.more.(4:23) And it was just interesting for me because I'm sure this time next year, I'll look back and say, wow, I thought that was really hard.ally hard. (4:29) And all things considered, it was at the time, but it's not as hard anymore.more. (4:34) That is why I always say the world's biggest lie is that success makes life easier.sier.(4:42) Because the responsibilities increase in proportion to the success. (4:46) The problem is you don't see it.e it. (4:48) Huh?(4:48) You don't, like that's, it's invisible.27;s invisible. (4:50) Yeah, in the day-to-day it's invisible.ible. (4:51) Yeah.(4:52) I just had a, what do you, let me ask you a question real quick. (4:54) What do you think deja vu is? (4:58) Someone changing something in the matrix.(5:01) No, I'm kidding.ding. (5:01) What do you really think it is? (5:04) I think your brain is recognizing a pattern that it thinks is similar.(5:09) I do. (5:11) Yeah. (5:11) I think your brain is recognizing a pattern that it thinks is similar to something that has happened before or you've seen before.fore.(5:17) It's almost like if we were, you ask me weird questions and then you regret it real quick because I'm so long-winded not because he doesn't want the answer.ant the answer. (5:28) When we hang out, when we travel, when we hang out, we don't hang out. out. (5:30) When we travel, you and I do this at night.(5:33) That's the best.best. (5:33) You just asked me weird shit. (5:34) Yeah, it is the best.(5:35) I miss it. (5:36) Same then. (5:38) So imagine your brain is a programmable computer for a second, just for a second.(5:44) It has certain processes where all of a sudden, if a pattern emerges, all of a sudden it goes, yep, that's a, I'll use the Tesla as an example, the self-driving car.iving car. (5:55) Enough of a correlation to a deer. (5:57) Oh, that's a deer.deer.(5:58) And it shows deer. (5:59) I think the brain is simulating and doing the same thing. (6:01) Like none of us are actually seeing reality.(6:03) We're seeing our brains, uh, interpretation of reality.lity. (6:07) Cool, man. (6:08) I still think it's like a, just a different universe or something like Kevin, you know, Kevin from planet Arjun on or whatever.ever.

Alan Lazaros

(6:14) Don't actually do.y do.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:15) I, I had a note in my phone that literally, the reason I asked you that is I had a note in my phone was what if deja vu is from like 2017. (6:22) What if deja vu is just, I don't remember.mber. (6:25) I'll see if I can find it.d it.(6:26) Oh, that's good stuff.tuff. (6:28) Dude, I'm telling you going back.back. (6:30) Yeah, it's a trip.trip.(6:30) While it makes me feel like a complete and total idiot, it also is awesome. (6:35) I told this to a client yesterday. (6:37) I said, just so you know, you're always going to, uh, she said this to me, uh, why didn't you tell me?u tell me?(6:43) And I said, I tried to, and I'm always trying to give you the level of truth you're ready for.ready for. (6:53) And yeah, I probably undershot it because I was cowardly, but I tried to tell you and we went through it. (7:00) And I said, just so you know, the rate that you're growing at is mine.mine.(7:04) It's unbelievable.able. (7:05) I've never met someone who invests more in herself than this person.rson. (7:09) Think about you even a year ago.(7:12) Think about all the things we've done even a year.year. (7:15) It's unbelievable.able. (7:16) Like life-changing.(7:19) And I know I'm not being tangible with this because I'm trying to protect her privacy, but ultimately you're like night and day different than you were a year ago.ere a year ago. (7:28) And that's why I love sending you those fucking technology videos from the nineties.ties. (7:34) Ellen sent me one of AOL.(7:35) The guy's like, I'd really love to come to the game with you today, but I got to book flight tickets and I got to get flowers for someone.r someone. (7:42) And I got to do this. (7:43) And he's like, we can do that right here on America online.line.(7:45) All you have to do is go to the marketplace and you can go UI. (7:49) It was terrible user interface. (7:51) Terrible.(7:51) Real quick. (7:52) Yeah. (7:53) Good.(7:53) What if deja vu is actually limited memories from a previous life slash other dimension? (7:59) Two question marks, 2018, February 13th, 2018. (8:04) I don't have the answer.swer.(8:07) However, I think that that is possible. (8:09) And I think that it's cool that you were contemplating.ting. (8:12) That's what I'm going with.oing with.(8:13) Yeah. (8:14) Uh, whenever I go back, I also feel, and all of us should feel, wow, I really didn't know that much.much. (8:25) That is what growth is, dude.(8:26) It's, it's, oh wow.s, oh wow. (8:28) I really didn't know myself as well as I do now. now. (8:30) Oh wow.(8:30) I really don't, didn't understand fitness as well as I do now. I do now. (8:33) Oh wow. (8:33) I really didn't understand leadership as much as I do now. now.(8:35) Oh, I really didn't understand my career, the economy as much as I do now. now. (8:39) I think Go the other way too, though. (8:40) Can't you look back and say like, wow, I knew way more than I thought I did. did.(8:44) Yes. (8:45) But that doesn't mean you know more than you do now. now. (8:47) No, no.(8:47) And you knew way more. (8:49) I actually have that where I look back and go, oh, I was way ahead of where I thought I was in terms of awareness, statistically speaking compared to others. (8:58) But I do think every time you reflect, you get clarity.(9:02) Three episodes in a row on clarity. (9:04) We'll touch on it.n it. (9:05) When you look back, you're always disappointed in the fitness pictures.ures.(9:11) Oh yeah. (9:12) What are you disappointed in? (9:14) What do you mean?(9:16) Like I looked back and I was like, fuck, I was really jacked. (9:19) Yeah, for sure. (9:19) And then it was like, all right, I'm going to try to get that this year.year.(9:22) Like I'm going to, again, it's, I'm not going to be the, you know, when I do my diet in a couple of weeks, I'm not going to look exactly that way.ok exactly that way. (9:28) But that's like my, my inspiration.tion. (9:30) What are you trying to say?(9:30) So you, you feel, how do you feel about that? (9:33) Take, take me through when you see those fitness photos. (9:36) Okay.(9:37) I am humble. (9:38) Just want to throw that out there before I start saying this. (9:41) I knew I was jacked.(9:43) Yeah. (9:44) See you and I are different in that because I was only, I was so future oriented and I was so focused on reaching my full potential that I didn't really see how statistically abnormal that was. was. (9:59) Well, it was newer to you too.(10:01) That's also way newer.ewer.

Alan Lazaros

(10:02) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:02) I had been, I had been getting, when I played high school baseball. (10:07) Yeah. (10:07) A hundred percent.(10:08) People think you're on steroids.oids. (10:09) There was on the message boards. (10:11) They're like the, was I playing second base shortstop?stop?(10:13) The whatever for Uxbridge high school is definitely on steroids. (10:17) It's like, where do you think I'm getting money for steroids at 16 years of age?rs of age? (10:22) Like, what are we doing here?(10:24) But I used to get that all the time. (10:26) When I was doing construction, I would show up to the job sites and people would be like, what are you, what are you on? (10:30) It's like, what, what steroids are you taking?king?(10:33) Diet and exercise. (10:34) And my father took steroids. (10:36) So like whatever got passed to me.(10:39) Epigenetics is a thing. (10:40) I don't think it has to do with the fact that he was on steroids.oids. (10:43) I know, but I, you know, I don't want anybody to dig up my past and be like, well, I don't know, man.know, man.(10:47) Word on the street is your dad did roids. (10:48) He did for sure. (10:49) And I probably got some benefit of that.(10:51) Whatever. (10:51) It is what it is. (10:52) I can't, I can't take that away.that away.(10:54) You had good bodybuilding genetics. (10:56) I did have good, great bodybuilding genetics still do, but I had been getting that for a long time. (11:02) So it's not, yeah, it's, it was, it was not as new to me as it was to you, I think., I think.

Alan Lazaros

(11:07) Yeah. (11:08) Agreed.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:08) And all of this is good. (11:10) Like for the listeners, the only wrong answer is to not go back and contemplate it. (11:16) 360 degree awareness.(11:17) I even, I want to give this person that I talked about on the last episode. (11:20) I know you weren't attacking me at all. all. (11:22) I said to her in the audio back, I said, I'm actually, I am grateful for the feedback.back.(11:26) I will take it as a data point, but I'm not going to like, Oh, you're absolutely right.ely right. (11:31) I should change the way I treat Kev completely. (11:32) Like you don't know the whole story and that's okay, but you do have to take in all the data. the data.(11:37) And I think, dude, those old photos and videos is, is data because we are not seeing the world as it is. (11:45) We're seeing ourselves.lves. (11:47) And I know that sounds like a fortune cookie quote.(11:49) So let me unpack it. (11:50) We are seeing what our brains will allow us to see. (11:55) You know, those memes, I do actually love these memes where they're there, the person standing on the books to see over the wall.wall.(12:02) The truth is when you read a book, like in book club, tiny habits by BJ fog, dude, I'm reading this book for the first time.time. (12:09) So it's probably a bad metaphor.phor. (12:10) But if I, if I read this book at 26, it would have been a different book to me that it's the same book, but I would have taken more from it or less from it depending on like, okay, if I had read this at 26, I probably would have been like, wow, B equals MAP behave behavior equals motivation, ability, and prompt that's buyer.7;s buyer.(12:34) But now it's like, well, that's not the whole thing.ole thing. (12:37) And yeah, it's good, but it's not that good.that good. (12:39) And I told you, I think BJ fog is a little bit soft.(12:42) I don't mean that mean he's just very, very gentle.ry gentle. (12:45) He's a gentle soul.soul. (12:46) He's not like a tenacious Tom Brady, Michael Phelps, Serena Williams, like get the fuck after it type.type.(12:51) And so I think I, all of us are living in our own sort of current understanding. (13:02) And the only way that you expand that understanding is through contemplation, constant contemplation that it sounds like a goddamn hotline call one 800 constant contemplation, where we teach you everything about yourself, others in the world, dumb, no constant contemplation. (13:21) I think the only wrong answer is to stop searching, stop contemplating.(13:24) I am. (13:24) I think that's what makes life meaningful, dude.dude. (13:26) I do.(13:27) I don't want to be the fucking same.same. (13:29) I, I go back and I see people that I grew up with and I am alarmed. (13:37) They didn't expand.pand.(13:38) They didn't expand.pand. (13:40) Some of them did not much, certainly not enough in my opinion. (13:44) And of course I'm biased.ased.(13:45) Some people's worlds are very small and that sucks for them because they could expand.pand. (13:52) Can you imagine what they would be capable of and what their life would look like? (13:55) You're saying that you're overwhelmed now and that's basically going to happen forever.happen forever.(14:00) Brother, the moment you get more capable, we're going to put more on you and then that's going to make you more capable.e capable. (14:06) And then we're going to put more on you and that, and that's what success is in real life success.e success. (14:10) If it's not built on horseshit is actually like, it doesn't get easier.et easier.(14:15) You handle hard better. (14:18) One of the reasons when I was younger in my like early twenties, one of the reasons I wanted to be a firefighter is because it seemed like they could handle anything.

Alan Lazaros

(14:26) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:26) Like they're just competent as hell.hell. (14:28) They show up and they just make, again, this is obviously simplifying it, but they just make like the worst problems go away. (14:35) And they're the people that run into the building when everybody else is running out. out.(14:38) That was always like, I think there was a piece of me that wanted to feel that competent as a human being. (14:43) That's one of the things that attracted me to it.o it. (14:45) I guess that's, that's often attainable to your first fire.irst fire.(14:48) Yeah. (14:48) Until I showed up and I was like, I, I'm also running away.away. (14:51) I need to run away.(14:52) Like this ain't it.t it. (14:53) This ain't it for me.r me. (14:54) Shout out to shout out to anybody out there doing that.(14:56) My goodness gracious. (14:58) I think that yes, reflecting is super important. (15:03) And I think one of the reasons reflecting is super important is because most of us don't know what's going to happen in the future going back to the clarity episode.y episode.(15:10) So you, when you look back, you say, wow, it used to be like this. (15:14) We don't necessarily know what it's going to be like.o be like. (15:16) I don't, I didn't know I was going to be here.o be here.(15:19) And I know that we'll go in a second, but you can look at the past and then predict the future.ture. (15:26) You can anticipate the future. (15:28) You're projecting brother.ther.(15:30) It's not as simple as when robots are in homes, you really going to be surprised.ised. (15:35) I, if I didn't spend the last nine years with you, I probably would be.d be. (15:37) Yeah.(15:43) Okay. (15:43) But I didn't know chat, chat, GPT was going to happen.ppen. (15:46) Oh brother.(15:47) Five years ago. (15:48) I know the next 20 years is going to be fucking wild for you. (15:51) I'm sure it is.t is.(15:51) It's going to be wild for everybody.body. (15:53) I can't even.even. (15:54) And again, yeah, I'm projecting.ting.(15:56) All right. (15:56) You can though, regardless of whether or not I, that is something I do. (16:00) You learn from the past to predict the future so that you can create it.(16:03) Well, you have to understand the past in order to predict that you can, there's a difference between like learning from, or I guess reflecting on it and then like actually absorbing the pattern of the lesson.sson. (16:12) I think that's like a harder thing.hing. (16:13) You are predicting.(16:14) Think fitness is a good metaphor. (16:15) We'll get out of here.here. (16:16) You can predict what you're going to look like at 40.t 40.(16:18) What are you? (16:19) 36 at 46. (16:20) You can predict.(16:20) No, God, no. (16:22) Yes, you can. (16:23) I can't.27;t.(16:24) You can create whatever physique you want within reason. (16:27) I know, but I don't think about that.that. (16:29) I think about how much work am I willing to do, but that's my thought and whether or not TRT ends up on my doorstep at some point, you know, 45 years of look, I'm, I'll be the guy who says it though.says it though.(16:42) If I'm running TRT, you'll know it.l know it. (16:43) I promise. (16:44) Yeah.(16:44) But I don't know that rationale.nale. (16:47) You don't know what the bit like.like. (16:49) No, I don't.27;t.(16:49) I don't know.know.

Alan Lazaros

(16:50) Okay.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:50) What about three months from now? (16:51) So this is time perspective.

Alan Lazaros

(16:52) We'll do an episode on this.this. (16:53) Yes.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:53) I think we should decoding greatness, reverse engineering finish lines. (16:58) You know what you're going to look like in a month and you know it in a month.onth. (17:01) Yeah.(17:02) A month is a lot different than what about a year? (17:04) No. (17:05) Yeah.(17:05) Probably look like this. (17:06) I'm probably going to look like this in a year.year. (17:07) No, you're going to look like, however you want to look baby with no reason.ason.

Alan Lazaros

(17:11) Yeah. (17:11) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:11) Projecting hard. (17:12) Huh? (17:12) This is how I want to look though.(17:16) I do that all the time, brother. (17:18) I'm always thinking about what I want NLU to be.o be. (17:20) I know what the world to be and what I want.(17:22) That's why you're the CEO and I'm the battering ram. battering ram. (17:25) I did that dude. (17:25) I'm telling you a year now. now.(17:27) I don't look at, I don't look at a year as if it's been a long time, but that's based.t that's based. (17:32) If I have like a very specific goal, I don't have like a super high level of clarity right now on what I want my body to look like at this time next year.year. (17:41) It's just not a priority.rity.(17:43) I'm focused on other shit.shit. (17:45) Okay. (17:46) I'm not saying that's right.7;s right.(17:47) That's probably, I have one I'm going for in it.for in it. (17:49) It's a, it's a, it's a leap.'s a leap. (17:52) It's a leap.leap.(17:52) And so it's very difficult.cult. (17:56) And so I don't get in Captain America.rica. (17:58) It's going to be next year.year.(18:00) Uh, sorry. (18:01) Give me more than a year. (18:02) Okay.(18:03) But the truth is, I know we got to go. (18:07) I think we should do an episode on this because what if, when you do have cleared down what you want, all you get is pain in the short term because of the contrast. (18:14) Like we should talk about the downsides of why, why are people avoiding predicting the future and anticipating the future and creating the future?(18:22) Like everyone talks about vision and vision boards. (18:24) I wonder how many people are really, are really that dialed in on that? (18:28) No.(18:28) Yeah. (18:29) So many less than you think. (18:30) So many less than you think you have a vision wants to create their, you still have a vision board.(18:35) Where's your vision board downstairs?airs? (18:37) No. (18:38) Yeah.(18:38) No. (18:38) You don't even use one. one. (18:39) I have my desktop background.(18:41) Yeah, that's fair.fair. (18:42) So I don't have a vision.sion. (18:44) I don't have a vision board.oard.(18:45) I wouldn't call it a vision board, but it's, it is, it's a map with my compass, my, my clarity.my, my clarity. (18:50) I online just help people reach their full potential in success, uh, through, um, health, wealth, and love through coaching, training, podcasting, like that's clarity.rity. (18:59) So that's my new vision board.oard.(19:01) But I have for sure, Emilio and I have a roadmap of what we want to achieve together. (19:07) Where is it in your squash? (19:10) We have it in our iPhone cause we, we mapped it all out on the whiteboard and then we took it.(19:14) We have a, we, we, an album in our iPhone that shared of our whiteboard pictures. (19:18) I'm all for, I love, you know, me, I love my first vision board was archaic.haic. (19:22) It was great.(19:23) It was just pieces of paper on a, on a, a tack board. (19:27) Great. (19:27) Love it.(19:28) That you out there make your, make your vision board. (19:30) I'm just saying that there's a big difference between making it and then chasing it.hasing it. (19:33) Those are two very different things.

Alan Lazaros

(19:34) Okay.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:35) Alan's got to go to book club.club. (19:36) If you're looking for coaching, Alan has slots available.able. (19:38) If you really, really want to get to the next level and you listen to this podcast all the time, that is the best next logical step in order to get really good results, right?(19:45) Podcasting will get you to a certain place, but coaching is going to get you to a much, much different place. (19:50) So we'll have Alan's link in the show notes below.tes below. (19:52) Next level nation is always in the show notes as well.(19:54) As always, we love you. (19:55) We appreciate you grateful for each and every one of you. (19:57) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be your every single freaking day to help you get there.(20:04) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (20:06) Next level nation. (20:08) Thanks for joining us for another episode of next level university.(20:12) We love connecting with the next level family.

Alan Lazaros

(20:15) We mean it when we say family.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:17) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (20:20) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes. (20:23) Thank you again.(20:24) And we will talk to you tomorrow.