Some People Talk About It… Less People Actually Do It Part 2 (2313)

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Show notes:
(2:58) Execution looks like losing
(4:12) The accountability spectrum
(6:17) Confidence Vs. Arrogance
(11:00) Identity and alignment
(15:04) Why follow-through fails
(17:28) Optimism Vs. Accuracy
(22:15) Think. Say. Do.
(23:32) Courage and credibility
(25:55) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) I was writing a rap last night, believe it or not. (0:05) I worked until whatever time we worked to, and I said, hey Taryn, what's happening?ning? (0:09) What do you want to do?(0:09) And she said, I'm going to watch my show.show. (0:11) I said, I'm going to write for 30 minutes.utes. (0:13) And it was about what we're going to talk about today.oday.

Alan Lazaros

(0:17) The last episode was talking about thinking about it, saying it out loud, and then doing it. (0:24) This is part two of that. (0:26) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:28) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri.ieri. (0:30) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.arus. (0:33) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:40) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:46) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(1:02) Self-improvement in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:08) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:14) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2,313, I do believe. (1:22) Some people talk about it, less people actually do it part two. (1:25) Will that be the actual title?(1:26) I don't know.know. (1:27) Maybe we'll change it on the fly, but we'll see.27;ll see. (1:30) We did an episode on it, and I felt like we didn't talk about it enough.ough.(1:33) We didn't have enough time, and I wanted to do a part two, because I think there's a lot of intricacies, it's a tough word, that go into what we were talking about that we didn't dive into.dn't dive into. (1:42) And I think the number one thing is, if you want to feel like you belong amongst people who are talking about doing something, you probably feel like in order to belong, you have to come up with your own thing, even if you don't intend on doing it.g it. (1:58) That's one thought.ught.(2:00) And then I think this, maybe this is the reason, dude, most people aren't going to remember what you say you're going to do.ing to do. (2:08) Most people don't care.care. (2:09) They get their own shit going on.(2:11) They're not, they're not worried about what you're doing and the promises that you've made to yourself.ve made to yourself. (2:18) And I think that's one of the big reasons, because we don't have people around us that hold us accountable.countable. (2:23) Or, I was talking to somebody, I don't remember what we were talking about, but they were, they said one of the reasons they don't say they're going to do things around their friend group is they know their friend group will make them feel bad when they fail at it.hey fail at it.(2:43) And I was like, Jesus, Jesus. (2:45) Again, that's all, that goes back to you just have the wrong people in your life at that point.oint. (2:50) But I think that's why at times people talk about it and then they don't actually do it because when you talk about it, it's easy.it's easy.(2:58) And when you start doing it, essentially it looks like you're losing for a long period of time.time. (3:01) And that's when people give you shit.shit. (3:03) So maybe they try to start doing it.(3:06) They realize, okay, this is going to be different slash harder slash whatever than I realized. (3:10) And that's when people give them shit of, oh, oh, you're, you're going to be a personal trainer.rsonal trainer. (3:15) Oh, you're going to be an author when you have nothing to show for it.r it.(3:18) And then that's, I feel like that's when you get most of the feedback anyway.ck anyway. (3:21) And how many people reach out to you today and say, Hey, you're a, you're never going to be a successful coach.ful coach. (3:25) Nobody does that anymore.(3:29) Yeah, that's true.true. (3:30) Like when you need, when you need support the most, that's when you get it the least.east. (3:34) And then eventually people are like, oh, I knew you'd make it.e it.(3:37) No, you didn't.27;t. (3:39) No, you didn't.27;t. (3:40) You just hoped I'd make it just like I did. did.(3:42) You didn't know any better than I did. did. (3:43) You and I have opposite experiences in this.

Alan Lazaros

(3:45) I get the, oh my God, you did it. (3:48) Yeah. (3:48) And I'm like, don't sound so fucking surprised.surprised.(3:53) You know, obviously you didn't believe I was serious before, but I also get it like, it depends which end you're on of this.n of this. (4:00) And I guess where we can start here is, I don't know why my volume is so damn high.high. (4:04) I can hear myself so loud.(4:05) Am I loud to you? (4:06) No, normal, normal to the listeners. (4:10) Let's self assess.sess.(4:12) Which end are you on? (4:13) Are you the one who says more than you do? (4:15) Or are you on Kevin's end of like, I don't want to talk about it at all until it's done.it's done.(4:18) Because both of those I think are too extreme. (4:21) On one end, you talk, talk, talk, never walk. (4:24) On the other end, you never speak into the world and get that extra necessity of like the public accountability of not wanting to be a hypocrite.(4:33) I don't know.know.

Kevin Palmieri

(4:35) I think maybe I've lost sight of, I won't say I've lost sight of the value of public accountability.accountability. (4:41) I don't mean it that way, but how normal it is at this stage for us to just like say something out loud without it.t it. (4:52) Maybe you probably think of the repercussions more than I do, but then just like saying it and then saying, all right, well, I guess I have to do that now.(4:59) You know? (4:59) Well, for me, that was always the case.

Alan Lazaros

(5:02) I don't think that was the case for me.r me. (5:04) No, it wasn't.27;t. (5:05) I don't think you said the things out loud that often.ften.(5:07) I think that was new for you in the beginning. (5:09) To be able to like share big dreams and stuff.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:12) And I always laughed at that. (5:14) No, people never really laughed. (5:15) I don't think they believed in it, but I don't think they, nobody ever like outright laughed.t laughed.(5:21) That's where we have, because I don't think people believed in me.ved in me. (5:25) Like I wasn't, I don't think people wanted to pick on me, you know? you know? (5:30) That makes no sense.(5:32) You're easy to tear down because you seem like, when you actually believe it's possible, I feel like people don't want to tear you down. tear you down. (5:44) Like when you believe, maybe not because I think it's just an energy thing.hing. (5:48) You're easier to tear down than me.n me.(5:51) I know that's the best I got though.ough. (5:56) You're like, you're the character in the movie that people just like villainize.illainize. (6:04) I'm the character in the movie that people, and again, I don't know that, again, I don't know what you think of me, but that people root for.eople root for.(6:11) Well, he's a fucking loser.oser. (6:13) So I'd like to see him win. win. (6:15) I don't think anyone thinks that anymore.more.(6:16) Well, I don't know.know.

Alan Lazaros

(6:17) I would understand that's been the trend for sure.sure. (6:21) I will say this. (6:22) I'll never forget when I saw Top Gun Maverick.rick.(6:26) You know his name. (6:28) He was in Twisters. (6:31) Glenn Powell.(6:33) His character in that movie. (6:36) I remember thinking, oh no, that's me.s me. (6:41) That's what I'm saying.;m saying.(6:42) He's like in great shape.hape. (6:44) And again, I'm not talking about me now necessarily, but like in general, he's the best on the team. the team. (6:50) He is really, really confident.(6:54) He's extraordinary at his craft.raft. (6:56) He's really good looking.king. (6:58) And it's like, oh shit, he's the villain.e villain.(7:03) And do you, I don't know if you remember the movie that well, but there's, I've never seen it. never seen it. (7:07) Oh, it's fucking awesome.some. (7:08) I've never seen either of them.them.(7:11) Top Gun Maverick is fucking awesome. (7:12) I believe it. (7:13) It's amazing.zing.(7:14) I mean, they crushed that film. (7:15) It's unbelievable.able. (7:16) But anyway, so I mean, I've seen it many times.imes.(7:19) It's really good.good. (7:19) World-class. (7:20) I hope they make another one.(7:21) And I think it's Glenn Powell who's going to be the main dude.main dude. (7:24) I think. (7:24) I could be wrong.(7:25) But anyway, so there's a scene where the underdog in the movie, which is Goose's son.x27;s son. (7:38) Do you know of Top Gun? (7:40) Like talk to me, Goose, the whole thing.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:41) I know there's Goose and I know they've, they whip those planes around.es around.

Alan Lazaros

(7:46) All right. (7:46) All right. (7:46) That's it.s it.(7:47) Whipping them. (7:47) Goddammit. (7:48) So the point though, is there's the underdog character that you're referring to, the hero's journey, the hero of the story, who's like doubting himself and struggling through failure and fear of failure and all. of failure and all.(7:58) And this other guy is like, you're not ready for this mission and you know it.w it. (8:02) And there's like a fight they have, they break out in a fight and they almost fist fight and Tom Cruise's character breaks it up and says, ah, and Glenn Powell's character says, come on, you know, I'm right.now, I'm right. (8:14) You know, I'm right.ight.(8:15) He's not cut out for this mission.sion. (8:16) He was absolutely right. (8:18) He almost fucking choked at the very end.(8:20) Like it's very clear that Glenn Powell's character was the best on the team and the most competent, but people don't like that for some reason.or some reason. (8:29) And because I think it, it seems like it gets to people's heads.eads. (8:32) I think that's, yeah, I mean, I do think his character was a little arrogant and then by the end he like comes around, which is great, but sometimes I wonder too, like what doubting yourself is somehow like endearing.ring.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:50) It's relatable.able. (8:52) It's relatable.able. (8:54) Well, we, we started what, have you ever heard of euphoria?(8:57) That's a TV show.show. (8:57) I'm sure you've heard of the word euphoria. euphoria. (8:59) Yeah.(9:01) Yes. (9:01) I've heard of the word.word. (9:02) I don't know.know.(9:03) I don't know the TV show.show. (9:04) No, it's a, it's different than I thought, but there is a character.character. (9:09) It's essentially, it's like the struggles of these high school students throughout their years.eir years.(9:16) And I was like, this is going to be, it's like incredibly deep, cinematically gorgeous.eous. (9:22) I mean, it is something special. (9:23) This is a special show.(9:25) Okay. (9:25) Well, one of the main characters is six foot five and a fucking stud. (9:29) Just like, what are we doing here?(9:34) You know, like who else is going to play that? (9:36) Of course you're going to play this character.cter.

Alan Lazaros

(9:38) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:39) And Taryn and I literally said either he is a world-class actor or he is an asshole in real life because he plays it so incredibly well. (9:49) I hope it's, he's just a really good character.character. (9:51) Actor.(9:52) You mean? (9:52) Well, yeah, but I hope he's, yes. yes. (9:54) I hope he's a really good actor, but like, I hope he just plays.lays.(9:56) You and I call that a vibe match. (9:59) Vibe match. (9:59) Okay.

Alan Lazaros

(10:00) Yeah. (10:00) It means who you are in real life is, is in the same frequency as the character. (10:09) Like for example, you've said my intensity reminds you of Tom Cruise.uise.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:13) Yeah. (10:13) I would say yours is more, I've never seen you jump up and down on couches or anything.hing. (10:17) Super out there.(10:18) So I would say yours is more bottled and directed.

Alan Lazaros

(10:20) Yeah. (10:21) So I actually coach an actor, so I get to do this now, which is cool. (10:28) I get to do this.(10:28) I get to coach someone who does this, but I also went to LA and show business. (10:33) I've studied my whole life.life. (10:34) So it's, it's really cool craft.ool craft.(10:35) I think acting and act like it's a really cool craft.raft. (10:38) There's different archetypes.ypes. (10:39) I actually do think at some point we should do an episode on what's your archetype.type.(10:43) So I remember my friend that I went to LA with came home with this book for actors and I'll make this relevant.vant. (10:54) Cause I know that's Kevin's concern.s concern. (10:56) No, no.(10:56) I've been off the rails since we started.rted. (10:58) It's all good.good. (10:58) Okay.(10:58) Perfect. (10:59) Great. (10:59) Excellent.(11:00) I will make it relevant to the listener who's concerned.rned. (11:03) And one of the archetypes is the warrior. (11:05) Definitely me a hundred percent.(11:06) And he even said, he's like, I asked him, which one do you think I am?I am? (11:10) He said, the warrior. (11:11) I said, fuck yeah.(11:12) Of course. (11:13) Why do I say, of course, it's a very intense, tenacious, relentless energy.ergy. (11:22) One of the people that I coach says being around me is like being around a giant ball of drive.(11:34) And it's like palpable.able. (11:37) I realized those are not your exact words. (11:39) Okay.(11:39) But pretty much something like that. (11:42) And I guess my point in this whole thing is self-assess for yourself, whether or not I'm bringing it back to the topic, think about it, speak about it, talk about it.t it. (12:01) Are they all in alignment?(12:02) Are they all in alignment? (12:03) Cause the reason we were even bringing up Top Gun and the characters and all that stuff is because I actually think most people who really believe in themselves are either socially inept and act like they, and seem really cocky to everybody. (12:19) And I don't mean socially inept in a negative way, but like quite frankly, dude, when I was a kid, I didn't know that no one else believed in themselves to the same extent that I did.hat I did.(12:27) I had no idea. (12:29) And I still, to this day, like if you said, like when I say I'm going to exercise every day for the rest of my life, I know I'm going to do that regardless of whether or not anyone else believes it.lieves it. (12:41) Does that sound cocky?(12:45) If I didn't know you, I would probably think so.k so. (12:48) Yeah, I think so. (12:50) Why?(12:51) Like, okay. (12:52) What if I said I'm going to eat cereal every day for the rest of my life?life? (12:55) It's like, to me, those are the exact same thing.hing.(12:56) No, one's more rare.rare. (12:58) Anybody can eat cereal as long as you can afford the box.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:00) Anyone can exercise within reason. (13:02) I know. (13:03) I know.(13:03) But what I'm saying is the lift is much bigger.gger. (13:05) It just seems, it just seems much more challenging.

Alan Lazaros

(13:09) There's like these different types of people.ople. (13:12) Some people are actually arrogant and they're just talking.king. (13:15) Some people are not talking and believe in themselves a ton.(13:19) Those are my favorite people. (13:20) And then some people are at five with it, where they talk as much as they walk. (13:24) I think I'm trying to get there.here.(13:26) Like I want, if I have level 10 self-belief, I want to have level 10 humility in the opposite direction. (13:31) And I think that's what maturity is.y is. (13:33) I realized why I think everyone seemed to call me arrogant my whole life is because I think I had level 10 self-belief, but only level eight humility.(13:41) So I seemed level two arrogant, or maybe it was 10 and five.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:45) So I, I think it's also because you talked about things that you hadn't done yet. done yet.

Alan Lazaros

(13:49) I don't understand what that even means.eans. (13:51) That's how you manifest things.ings.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:52) But everybody, this is, that's exactly what we're talking about here is most people, most people say it and they don't ever do it.7;t ever do it. (13:59) I did a, I did a podcast episode with someone and on the, there was a pre-call first. (14:05) And he's like, dude, please, please, please invest like 20 minutes before you, you come and join and listen to the first episode I did. did.(14:13) Cause you'll understand me at a deeper level.evel. (14:15) And I'm like, I got you, man. man. (14:15) I respect that.(14:16) I got you. (14:18) And I listened to it. (14:21) And then we did the episode and he's like, dude, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to change the world with this.orld with this.(14:25) And I'm going to do this and do this.this. (14:26) And then it, I don't know, I think he did like 15 episodes and it doesn't exist anymore.t anymore. (14:30) And now it's gone.gone.(14:31) And he said he was going to do it. (14:34) I didn't believe him, but couldn't, can't you tell with someone's level of conviction inside of them?tion inside of them? (14:39) No, I, maybe this is a me thing.(14:42) I don't know.know. (14:43) I think I I've had a lot of people that told me they were going to do stuff that didn't do it.7;t do it.

Alan Lazaros

(14:47) Well, maybe they changed their mind and, or maybe they, yeah, I just, well, you, you have, you used to say things that you didn't actually intend on.d on. (14:57) And, and so you can probably recognize it or you obviously can. (15:01) I don't know.know.(15:01) Like, did you know that he didn't intend on it?n it?

Kevin Palmieri

(15:04) I am under the assumption that almost nobody is going to do what they say. (15:08) I don't mean that in a negative way. way. (15:10) I just talk is easy.(15:12) I don't, I've met a lot of people that I I'm going to do this.ing to do this. (15:16) I'm going to do this.this. (15:16) It's like, Oh, I love that.that.(15:18) I hope you do. (15:19) I just don't know if I'd bet on it.bet on it. (15:21) I just wouldn't bet on it.n it.

Alan Lazaros

(15:23) And by that rationale though, you don't know who to believe in.e in. (15:26) And that's bad news for the future of this company, because you have to, you have to bet on people that you think will be successful.sful. (15:34) I'm creating my own success formula for lack of better phrasing.sing.(15:39) And I'm okay.okay. (15:41) Let me give you an example. (15:42) So we do relationship talks, coaching Emily and I, and there's someone who we're coaching who is dating someone.g someone.(15:49) And I said, your homework is going to be sit down and reassess from this version of yourself, like what you actually value in a long-term relationship. (15:58) You have to be able to, it's not like I just picked Emily out of a hat. hat. (16:03) You know, it's she's conscientious.cientious.(16:05) She's disciplined.ined. (16:06) She has bigger goals and dreams than I do. (16:07) She's driven.iven.(16:08) She's there's character traits.er traits. (16:10) She's gorgeous.eous. (16:11) There's, there's traits that matter in the value of the marketplace.rketplace.(16:14) So my point of this is like, you have to be able to assess in life who you believe in and who you don't, you have to, we've never talked about that, but we should, because if you bet on the wrong people, your life is going to end up way worse.way worse. (16:28) I like betting on people that don't believe in themselves, but that's that admit they don't believe in themselves. in themselves. (16:36) That's fire.fire.(16:36) Yeah, I agree. (16:37) Cause cause that tells you what? (16:38) They're humble, right?ight?

Kevin Palmieri

(16:40) Like that's really, at the end of the day, if you're humble and you have work ethic, there's a lot.e's a lot. (16:47) Yeah. (16:47) There's a lot that you can do.n do.(16:49) I want to tie this back to, because I think this is my, my, uh, high level belief on this. (16:56) I think what happens often is it's very easy to talk about something long before you know what it will take to do it.o it. (17:02) And the people that actually do it are the ones that either have a higher awareness of what it will take.(17:07) That's part one, or just very, very, very adaptable that, that, because we, it's very easy to say I'm going to do blank until you hit the first roadblock and say, well, shit, I didn't know that was going to be a part of it. to be a part of it. (17:19) And I think that is the, that is a basic human experience for most people. (17:23) Okay.(17:24) This is my takeaway.

Alan Lazaros

(17:28) When you imagine doing what you say you're going to do, no matter what it is, 10 pounds in 10 weeks, get that career, get that job, whatever it is, it's always going to be harder than you think.you think. (17:38) Don't you go in with that presupposition?tion? (17:41) Like anything you do at a, like, I didn't, I don't think exercising every day for the rest of my life is going to be a piece of cake.e of cake.(17:49) I'm going to do whatever it takes to make sure it happens done.done. (17:52) Now, I don't think it's going to be like atrociously difficult either.lt either. (17:56) I don't think it's going to be as hard as a lot of the things we're going to do in business together, but I think that's accurate thinking at the end of the day, if you can't assess like, okay, if I said, we're going to both run a six minute mile today, you now have an accurate understanding of how hard that would be.ing of how hard that would be.(18:15) So do you believe you could do it today?

Kevin Palmieri

(18:17) Zero.

Alan Lazaros

(18:18) Okay. (18:18) Seven minutes. (18:19) No.(18:20) Okay. (18:20) Eight minutes. (18:21) No.(18:22) Eight and a half. (18:23) No. (18:25) Nine.(18:25) I'd do nine.nine. (18:26) Okay. (18:27) I couldn't do six on a whim.whim.(18:28) I don't think I'd be close. be close. (18:30) I can definitely do seven for sure. (18:32) But here's the thing that saying that is based on awareness.ness.(18:36) So I think when you're young, you're saying I want to be an astronaut, but you don't actually know how bad that's going to be.'s going to be. (18:43) I think so. (18:44) But when you get to the bad or the tough or the challenging, if you don't quit, you, yeah.yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:55) But that's the thing I think you have to go.o go. (18:57) I always am under the impression of I'd rather, I'd rather think it's going to be worse than it's going to be.'s going to be. (19:05) Always.

Alan Lazaros

(19:06) I always, I don't want to think it's going to be better.be better. (19:09) The stats show the people who are optimistic win long-term if they don't quit.quit. (19:15) I have stats show that I wonder if they shoot higher and then they have a growth mindset.(19:18) If you have a growth mindset, optimism wins. (19:21) I'm, I actually think accurate is the optimal, but you have to, if you're, if five is accurate, you've got to be a little above five.tle above five. (19:27) That's what the stats show.show.(19:28) The success stats, pessimists are more accurate in short-term predictions. (19:35) Optimists are more successful long-term because they fail forward longer. (19:40) That's what the stats show.show.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:41) I mean, it makes sense. (19:42) Right. (19:43) I'm just saying like me and you in the beginning for sure.sure.(19:45) Well, even today, I think we've switched back and forth.orth. (19:49) Like I'm very, yeah, I don't know.27;t know. (19:52) I'm pretty pessimistic, but no, I don't know.27;t know.(19:57) I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily.cessarily. (19:59) I mean, I have you obviously to, to bounce ideas and balance me out, but I would rather think like, oh, this is going to be way harder. (20:06) But I think that's the key is I'm going to do it. to do it.(20:09) I'll be very honest.nest. (20:12) No, no. (20:13) My goal to school, my goal was to squat four 15 this year and I got up to four 15.(20:17) It wasn't even that hard.hard. (20:18) Honestly.

Alan Lazaros

(20:18) Nice. (20:19) Good. (20:19) It wasn't even that hard for you. you.(20:21) I appreciate you being honest about that because that sounds cocky to most people. (20:24) Oh, for sure. (20:25) And I understand that's the thing is like, I understand if it sounds cocky, it doesn't sound cocky to me at all.me at all.(20:29) It just sounds like you were off in your prediction.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:32) I think I was off in my prediction and I, you know, I last year I wasn't like super into bodybuilding as much as I needed to be.o be. (20:42) I get strong fast when I like really put my mind to it. (20:45) That's again, that's one of the things I'm good at.#x27;m good at.(20:47) Right. (20:47) That's, that's one of the things I'm good at.#x27;m good at.

Alan Lazaros

(20:49) But you set that goal. (20:50) So like you said, you do it to yourself and then to others. (20:59) Yeah.(20:59) And then you went and did it and it took less time than you thought.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:07) No, no. (21:08) I think it took like the, the amount of time I thought it just wasn't that again, I'm not saying like, I don't do mobility.;t do mobility. (21:15) I'm not saying any of this is right.ight.(21:18) I'm not saying, I'm not saying anything, but like, it's not like I'm tracking every macro and my sleep has been okay.sleep has been okay. (21:24) My sleep has actually been pretty good lately, but like my mobility is garbage. (21:28) I could do way.(21:30) If anything, this is a lesson of like, you could do way more if you just put more into it. (21:36) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(21:36) That's what my brain brain went to.t to. (21:37) Yeah. (21:37) I think that's said, that was actually pretty easy.easy.(21:39) It's like, I think that's the ante. the ante.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:40) Yeah. (21:41) I think, but then again, here's the question.tion. (21:42) Am I willing?(21:44) It's always that for me.r me. (21:45) Okay. (21:46) So I'm going to do a, I'm going to squat 440 pounds.40 pounds.(21:48) Okay, cool. (21:50) Uh, I'm going to do 15 minutes of mobility every day. day. (21:52) No.(21:53) And then that's where my brain's like, you're not, you're not like, let's be real.like, let's be real. (21:58) That's not worth it.h it. (21:59) When's the last time.time.(22:00) Have you done mobility recently?

Alan Lazaros

(22:02) Yeah. (22:02) Three days in a row, baby. (22:03) Okay.(22:04) We got a new streak going. (22:05) And again, we'll see. see. (22:06) Yeah.(22:07) I actually think that we'll stick with it this time because of what I told you, we invested in the app and we're doing it together at the accountability partners, but I know we got to jump.t to jump. (22:14) Yeah. (22:14) What's your takeaway?away?(22:15) Okay. (22:16) Think it, say it out loud, do it in that order, but don't, and this is probably the issue.ssue. (22:24) If you are in a group of people, it's like that one up thing.hing.(22:30) Well, I'm going to do this.this. (22:30) Well, I'm going to do this.this. (22:31) Well, I'm going to do this.this.(22:32) And then it it's two weeks into January.uary. (22:35) Do you know how many people I already see leaving the gym? (22:38) I believe it's wild.wild.(22:40) And I had the moment where I was like, okay, it's the 11th.11th. (22:44) Whoa. (22:45) Like it feels like all of the excitement for 2026 is gone energetically already.(22:52) Not necessarily inside of me, but in general. (22:54) Right. (22:54) Did you have the moment?(22:56) I don't know if I told you behind the scenes, like I doesn't feel like a new year to me.ear to me. (23:02) I, every year I can feel it. (23:03) I can feel the energy of everybody's enthusiasm.iasm.(23:06) And then it, it dwindles quick. (23:07) It dwindled fast this year. (23:09) And not just in the world, but I mean the community, like, uh, and the community is still cranking, but there's definitely that lull after where it's like the holidays, most people fall off, not everybody, but most people.st people.(23:21) And then all of a sudden it's like January 1st and you feel that boost that Mario cart booster.ster. (23:25) And then that thing drains fast. (23:28) But anyways, so say it, think it, say it, do it in that order.(23:32) And I think that that gets you both intrinsically and extrinsically motivated. (23:36) It takes courage to say it. (23:38) It takes courage to risk.(23:41) Like if I don't, if I don't exercise every day for the rest of my life, I risk looking like a hypocrite.hypocrite. (23:46) I risk that. (23:49) And that's the risk you, I think that's courage.s courage.(23:53) I think that's, that's wonderful.wonderful. (23:55) You have to have courage. (23:57) It's better than being timid the rest of your life.life.(24:00) I concur. (24:01) I concur.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:01) I'm not signing up for it though.ough. (24:04) If there's anything like I do operate under that, it's like, I think, do I think I could exercise every day for the rest of my life?f my life? (24:11) Ah, the rest of my life.(24:12) That's a long fucking time.time. (24:13) Every day for a year. (24:14) A hundred percent.(24:15) I just, I don't, I'm not willing to do it. to do it. (24:18) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(24:18) That's the worth it thing.hing.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:19) I'm just very honest about the fact that like, if I work a 13 hour day and it's zero degrees out, I'm not into it.;m not into it. (24:26) I'm not into it.o it. (24:27) I don't want to do it.o it.(24:28) I don't.27;t. (24:28) And I respect it.

Alan Lazaros

(24:29) I respect it deeply. (24:30) I appreciate it.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:31) But I'm no, I love that.that. (24:33) I love that for you. (24:35) I love that.(24:36) I like being in my bed when nobody else is in it. (24:37) That's what I like.like. (24:38) When nobody else is in it.(24:40) I mean, I obviously with my wife, but when she's gone, I'm up in that bed, I'm snugging.x27;m snugging. (24:44) All right. (24:44) Dude, I love it.(24:45) Okay. (24:45) Let's go.s go. (24:46) Alan's coaching is going to help you do this.this.(24:48) If you are somebody who said something to yourself and other people judged you and you don't know how to do it, you don't know the strategy. strategy. (24:55) Alan can 100% help you with that. (24:57) And if you're a podcaster and you've talked about starting, you've talked about growing, you have these really big ideas and you need help, you need support.u need support.(25:03) I am happy to help you. (25:04) We have, I don't know how many, almost 80 podcasts, I think we're producing right now.right now. (25:08) So there's a lot of stuff happening behind the scenes.enes.(25:11) And I get to learn from amazing people about podcasting and all that happy jazz. (25:14) So we'd love to help.help. (25:16) Real quick.

Alan Lazaros

(25:16) If you've never had a coach before, imagine someone else who cares about your goals as much or more than you do.u do. (25:24) When Kevin said, you know, a lot of people forget when you say things, dude, you said you wanted the most successful podcast production company on planet earth. (25:31) I have never forgotten that.(25:33) Forgetting. (25:34) I've never forgot that.that. (25:35) And I intend on doing that with you and not only doing it with you, but like, if that's your dream, I'm going to help you achieve it.chieve it.(25:41) For sure. (25:42) Yeah. (25:43) Oh, and if you start suddenly golfing every other day, I'm going to be like, Hey man, you told me you wanted this.this.(25:48) Do you still want that? (25:49) So someone who can be on you in a way that's respectful is really important.tant. (25:54) For sure.

Kevin Palmieri

(25:54) All right, squad, as always, we love you. (25:56) We appreciate you. (25:56) Grateful for each and every one of you.(25:58) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be your every single day to help you get there.

Alan Lazaros

(26:04) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (26:07) Next level nation.

Kevin Palmieri

(26:08) Thanks for joining us for another episode of next level university. (26:12) We love connecting with the next level family.

Alan Lazaros

(26:15) We mean it when we say family, if you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (26:20) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes. (26:24) Thank you again.(26:25) And we will talk to you tomorrow.