You’ll NEVER Actually Have Enough Time (2329)

Hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros break down why “not having enough time” is one of the most common excuses holding ambitious people back. They explain how poor structure, loose deadlines, and unclear standards quietly undermine productivity, focus, and long-term growth. Drawing from years of coaching, business building, and thousands of conversations with high performers, they challenge the belief that more time automatically leads to better results.

This episode explores how discipline, intentional constraints, and clear finish lines create momentum, confidence, and consistency in life, health, business, and relationships. If you are tired of feeling behind and ready to operate with greater precision and personal authority, this conversation will reshape how you think about time.

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Show notes:
(3:23) Parkinson’s law and time expansion
(5:47) Finding your optimal work window
(7:33) Why does excess time weaken execution
(8:55) Defining clear finish lines
(10:34) How extra time reduces performance
(14:58) Optimizing for flow and focus
(16:24) Why is more is not better
(21:00) Accountability, standards, and results
(24:38) Outro

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Chapters

• 3:23 Parkinson’s law and time expansion
• 5:47 Finding your optimal work window
• 7:33 Why does excess time weaken execution
• 8:55 Defining clear finish lines
• 10:34 How extra time reduces performance
• 14:58 Optimizing for flow and focus
• 16:24 Why is more is not better
• 21:00 Accountability, standards, and results
• 24:38 Outro

Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) There is a running joke at NLU. (0:03) No matter how many hours we have to do a certain amount of episodes, we never, ever, ever, ever get them done. (0:10) And there's a reason why, and it's probably not the reason you think.

Alan Lazaros

(0:13) That makes us look really bad, but the principle underneath it is applies to everyone.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:20) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:23) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:25) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.(0:28) At NLU, we believe in a heart driven, but no BS approach to holistic self improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:34) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:41) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(0:56) Self-improvement in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:03) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:09) Next Level Nation, today for episode number 2,329, you'll never actually have enough time. (1:16) As sad as that might sound. (1:19) I told Taryn the other day, I said, next couple months, we're going back to the old way of NLU, where we're going to take a day and we're going to record all of our episodes.(1:30) And I said, we probably still won't get all of them done though, but we're going to have a day. (1:34) Where is our job?

Alan Lazaros

(1:36) That is one way to set expectations.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:38) Well, you know, I've learned over the years. (1:41) The goal will be to get everything done, but we did that for a long time and we very rarely got everything done. (1:47) I think we're better now and I do think we understand the downsides of not, but why didn't we?(1:52) What do you think our average was?

Alan Lazaros

(1:53) Three, four. (1:54) Yeah, three, four. (1:55) I'd say three or four.(1:56) Yeah. (1:57) Good day was five.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:58) Almost never did we get seven. (2:01) Well, we also used to do, we used to do the live podcast. (2:06) There was a lot we, I mean, we were doing, we're definitely doing more stuff now, but, oh, so why, okay.(2:10) Explain to, explain to someone out there. (2:16) You guys had eight hours scheduled to do seven episodes. (2:22) How the hell did you leave the studio with three episodes done?(2:27) Like what the hell happened?

Alan Lazaros

(2:32) We also had a business to grow and we had to realign as business partners and co-hosts and we had a lot of breakthroughs to work through typically because we would only see each other once a week. (2:46) So now we do that almost every day for 20 minutes, 20 to 30 minutes, sometimes more, but back then it would, the first couple of hours was catching, locking down the episode topic, trying to understand the listener at a deeper level, trying to understand ourself at a deeper level, trying to figure out ways to make the topic land. (3:10) So that's the esoteric answer.(3:12) But what you're going for is the principle. (3:14) I'm going for the principle. (3:15) I'm a principle based man, as you know, so I think now you might be able to say that, but God damn.(3:22) All right. (3:22) So Parkinson's law, not a great title. (3:25) Okay.(3:26) And you can all look this up. (3:28) I highly recommend it. (3:29) Parkinson's law, P-A-R-K-I-N-S-O-N, apostrophe S's law, states, work expands to fill the time available for its completion.(3:40) Work expands to fill the time available for its completion. (3:44) What it means in plain English. (3:47) If you give yourself more time than necessary, the task will usually, one, become more complex than it needed to be.(3:54) Number two, invite distractions and or perfectionism. (3:58) Three, take exactly as long as the deadline allows. (4:02) Classic example.(4:03) You have one week to write a report. (4:04) It takes a week. (4:05) You have one hour to write the same report.(4:07) It often gets done in an hour. (4:08) I'll be at worse. (4:09) I added the, I'll be at worse.(4:11) There's a sweet spot, man. (4:12) I'm always doing this. (4:14) I've tried coaching 30 minutes.(4:16) I was on a coaching session earlier. (4:18) A man named Frederick. (4:19) Frederick was 10 minutes late and he emailed me.(4:26) He's like, dude, I was in the zoom room. (4:28) I just got in flow. (4:28) I was audio editing.(4:29) I was like, dude, you're good. (4:30) So he's like, do you want to reschedule? (4:32) I said, no, let's hammer it.(4:35) 20 minutes was not enough. (4:37) By the end it was okay. (4:40) I'll follow up via email, but we'll see where we can go from here.(4:47) An hour long session in coaching is the sweet spot for me. (4:53) You and I on this podcast, we believe a half an hour per episode is optimal. (5:00) And the listeners will know this, especially long-term listeners.(5:02) I've had one of my clients say, I don't like when you guys start rambling. (5:06) It's like, when are you guys ever going to shut up? (5:09) He was being playful.(5:11) And it's like, first of all, I'd love to see you podcast. (5:13) I know you're listening by the way, but this is harder than you think. (5:16) God damn it.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:18) I was going to say, does this person have a podcast? (5:20) No. (5:21) Start a podcast.(5:22) You can talk. (5:23) He was messing around.

Alan Lazaros

(5:24) He was really playful. (5:25) He loves us. (5:26) He listens every day.(5:28) 91 day NLU streak is his goal for this quarter. (5:33) There's 91 days in the course. (5:34) I was going to say, so every day this quarter?(5:36) Every day. (5:37) So shout out to you, brother. (5:38) But my point is there's a sweet spot in time for everything that you do.(5:46) And it changes based on your competence level. (5:49) So for us, a half an hour is enough crunch time to where we don't ramble, but we have enough time to get into flow and actually be creative.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:59) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(5:59) Whereas an hour, it would be, we'd end up talking about, I don't know, my chapstick that I got, and it would be irrelevant to most of the listeners. (6:07) So everything I do, I try really hard to find the window of time that is optimal for that. (6:14) So biweekly metric meetings is 30 minutes.(6:16) Coaching sessions are an hour. (6:18) And you trial and error, trial and error, trial and error. (6:20) I remember back when you were going on like 21 podcasts every week, other shows.(6:25) And I said, dude, we gotta, we gotta do a half hour. (6:27) And you said, no. (6:28) The reason you were saying no is you knew that it would be much less valuable.(6:33) But you shouldn't be doing two hours either.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:35) Suboptimal. (6:36) Well, there is a, what's the longest podcast you've ever been on? (6:39) What's the longest episode you've ever done?

Alan Lazaros

(6:42) Probably you and I back in the day, man. (6:45) Same. (6:45) Right.(6:46) We used to do two and a half hours or something.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:49) Yeah. (6:49) Yeah. (6:50) Well, that's the thing is you do get to a certain point where it's just not valuable anymore.

Alan Lazaros

(6:56) Yeah. (6:57) It's not as valuable. (6:58) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:59) Yeah. (6:59) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(6:59) It's like a song that goes too long. (7:01) What's the song that's super long? (7:03) Uh, remember Guitar Hero is the longest one ever.(7:07) Not through the fire and the flames. (7:09) It was, uh, that's what guns and roses or something. (7:11) It was, it was like a 12 minute song or some shit.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:14) I don't know.

Alan Lazaros

(7:16) And by the end, your fingers were falling off. (7:19) Were you a Guitar Hero guy?

Kevin Palmieri

(7:20) Yeah, but I wasn't good at it. (7:21) There's nothing. (7:22) I loved getting a little drunk playing Guitar Hero.(7:24) It was like the best peak human. (7:26) Oh, the best. (7:27) Yeah.(7:27) It was the absolute best. (7:28) Yeah. (7:28) I might have to get it.(7:29) I might have to get a Guitar Hero. (7:30) We'll see. (7:32) We'll see.(7:32) The simplest, the simplest answer is we had two and a half hours. (7:36) That's too much time. (7:37) You'd think like, okay, you guys, you're going to do seven episodes.(7:40) You need eight hours. (7:40) No, no, we don't. (7:42) We could do seven episodes in four hours for sure.(7:45) Yeah, probably four and a half to be safe.

Alan Lazaros

(7:48) Yeah, I agree.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:48) But it's, there's too much, there's too much room to screw off and there's not enough necessity to make sure that you stay on task. (7:59) So Alan and I have an hour to do three episodes. (8:02) That's less than we'd like.(8:03) We'd like an hour and a half to do three episodes, but we met, we caught up for like 15 minutes and I said several times, okay, let's go. (8:10) And Alan said, all right, it's time to go. (8:11) Like, let's do it.(8:12) Let's do it. (8:13) Because we both know we don't have a never ending amount of time.

Alan Lazaros

(8:18) I will purposely schedule things on my calendar where I know I have a hard stop. (8:24) So it forces me off.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:26) Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(8:27) So my closed down routine starts at 8 PM, Monday through Saturday, I do 11 to 8. (8:32) And I'll purposely book that last slot knowing that I have that hard stop. (8:38) And sometimes obviously I'll go over for extenuating circumstances more often than I'd like to have continue happening.(8:44) But this is saying some practical applications, set shorter, tighter deadlines, time box tasks, 30 to 90 minute blocks, and then define what done means. (8:54) I think that's something we do pretty, pretty well.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:57) Define what done means.

Alan Lazaros

(8:59) Okay. (8:59) Yeah, it has to be very clear what the start and the end is. (9:02) This fitness challenge that we're doing, shout out to, hold on, Daniel, first name's only Daniel today, signed up.(9:11) And then, hold on, Darwin, Darwin, Darwin. (9:15) Shout out to you both. (9:15) And if you want in DM, uh, Kevin and I, I almost just said Emilia and I, because I have another podcast with her.(9:21) How dare you? (9:22) DM Emilia and I, no, DM Kevin and I on Instagram to join. (9:28) It's 10 pounds, 10 weeks.(9:29) You can, you can do a bulk, you can do a cut. (9:31) Doesn't have to be 10 pounds. (9:33) It can be all I need is a start date, uh, February 1st to April 11th.(9:38) All I need is a starting weight. (9:39) Weigh-ins are on February 1st and an end goal weight. (9:43) That's it.(9:44) Boom. (9:46) But anyways, why was I mentioning that? (9:47) Oh, there's a very clear start and end.(9:51) That's why I think challenges are so cool because in this infinite game of life, it can be very overwhelming. (9:59) And I think this is what you kind of are trying to share with me. (10:02) When I talk about maximizing my potential, it's too undefined.(10:05) What does that mean? (10:06) Yeah. (10:06) When does it stop?(10:08) It does never.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:09) Well, that fuck, fuck. (10:10) I need, I need, I need, I need to run through a, I need to run through a finish line, some check checkpoints, something, something. (10:19) Also, when we were coming up this episode, I said this would be too long of a title, but it could be, you'll never actually have enough time slash you always have enough time because in theory, the thought process is optimizing based on the amount of time it's going to need.(10:33) Not having extra time to do the thing, because when you have extra time to do the thing, imagine if somebody, if somebody said, okay, I'm going to give you an hour to, to draw out your vision of a car, what you want, we're going to make a vehicle, we're going to make a new vehicle. (10:48) I'm going to give you an hour to draw it out and assume you had some drawing skills. (10:51) If it was me, it would be just a box on wheels.(10:53) That's, I'm not a very good artist. (10:56) You're going to crank it out. (10:57) When somebody said, I'll give you a year to draw it.(10:59) You really think you're going to sit down every day and work eight hours on this for a year? (11:03) Not a chance. (11:04) Yeah, not a chance.(11:05) There's no way it doesn't require that long.

Alan Lazaros

(11:07) This is why I do 90 minute jam sessions. (11:10) I set timers for everything. (11:12) I know this sounds awful and it kind of is, but it's necessary if you want to be successful, particularly if you're working for yourself, you are not.(11:23) If you're a business owner and you don't have a boss, you are in serious trouble. (11:27) If you don't have this ability to like, okay, let's do this. (11:33) So for anyone who knows the Apple's history, Macintosh, iPhone, Steve Jobs being fired, going to Pixar and then coming back to Apple, Steve Jobs was famous for this.(11:44) They called it a reality distortion field. (11:46) He would set deadlines that were literally impossible. (11:52) And the reason he did that is because when you get a creative group of people working on one thing for a time...(11:58) Who was I with in college that used to do this? (12:02) He worked for Microsoft, my buddy Manu. (12:04) And they would have these weekends when they were under deadline where they would all sleep at the office.(12:10) Their team would all be there and there'd be food catered and they'd just jam for like a whole weekend, four days straight. (12:16) And then they'd have like two weeks off, but they would just jam night and day. (12:21) It's pretty awesome actually.(12:24) Uh, and I remember thinking like, that was really cool. (12:27) He hated it, but I would hate doing it for somebody else. (12:30) I think that's pretty awesome.(12:33) What kind of food? (12:34) That's imagine how? (12:35) Yeah.(12:35) Oh yeah. (12:36) What kind? (12:37) Good stuff.(12:38) I have no doubt. (12:39) Probably whatever you want, right? (12:40) Pretty much.(12:41) Nice. (12:41) Yeah. (12:41) This was the company that bought out the whole top of the, uh, the garden, TD garden for the Celtics.(12:50) I remember I went, I told you about. (12:52) Yeah. (12:53) College was a trip for me in hindsight.(12:54) I can imagine. (12:55) Some of that stuff I realized in hindsight is like very weird. (12:58) Lack of college was a trip for me.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:00) And, uh, I realized in hindsight, I realized in hindsight that a lot of it was really weird.

Alan Lazaros

(13:07) You and I had the most similar, different upbringings of all time. (13:11) Yes. (13:12) Okay.(13:13) Back to this. (13:14) Yes. (13:14) The point is you need to structure your life where there's enough.(13:19) So Amelia wanted an hour and a half for the conscious couples podcasts. (13:24) And I was like, nope, I don't want to do that. (13:28) A half hour.(13:29) We used to have on the calendar way too short. (13:30) Couldn't do it. (13:31) Always had to reschedule 90 minutes that we were kind of laggy.(13:35) We weren't laggy. (13:36) We weren't doing urgent work. (13:40) And an hour is the sweet spot right now.(13:44) So everything you do time box it, everything. (13:47) The gym half hour, I was cranking, but there was no breaks between sets and it wasn't optimal. (13:53) If I go back past an hour, we're doing 60 minutes now.(13:56) We've been doing it for probably like six months now. (14:00) If I went past an hour. (14:02) Okay.(14:02) So the other, the other morning it's too late. (14:07) She has a meeting. (14:08) I have a meeting.(14:09) We're like, shit. (14:10) Okay. (14:10) We can only do 40.(14:12) We'll walk later for 20 minutes. (14:14) So we do 40 in the gym. (14:16) And afterwards I was like, that sucked.(14:18) That was not optimal. (14:21) An hour. (14:22) I like a lot.(14:23) I really do. (14:24) We did 30. (14:24) Then we did 35, then 40, then 45.(14:26) And then we went to an hour and an hour is, I told her, I said, I don't think I can ever do more than an hour and sustain it. (14:33) We'll see. (14:34) What's the longest?(14:35) What did you used to do back in the day? (14:37) Oh, dude. (14:37) Hour and a half every day.(14:39) Every day. (14:40) Too long. (14:41) You think?(14:41) Yeah. (14:42) We were fucking hanging out more like, and again, that's the wrong phrase. (14:46) Cause there's no way we were hanging out animals, but there were times where I wasn't, I was talking to people and stuff.(14:52) Like you need to time box things to where you're, you're going to hit flow. (14:59) I think that that's what you have to optimize for. (15:01) You have to optimize for flow.(15:02) I just hit flow in this episode, probably within the last three minutes. (15:09) Now I'm out of it. (15:09) Cause I'm talking about it, but thank you for that sacrifice.(15:13) Yeah. (15:13) Yeah. (15:14) You're welcome.(15:14) So, but ultimately I think that's what you need to do. (15:17) For anyone who hasn't studied flow, I got to shit all over you right now. (15:22) You got to, you got to study flow.(15:24) Flow is, there is no peak performing athletes on planet earth or artists or rappers or musicians or actors or actresses or directors that don't hit flow. (15:35) Flow is the cheat code to all peak performance. (15:38) And if you don't study it, you just don't know.(15:42) Productivity increases by 500% in flow. (15:45) It's when you lose yourself in your work. (15:48) When you go to a movie and you forget you're even there and you're like, oh shit, I'm like a human.(15:53) I was so immersed in the story. (15:55) That's what people are optimizing for is flow. (15:56) You go to a concert, it's group flow.(15:58) I don't care about concerts, but most people love them because it's group flow. (16:01) You're in flow, you're fully present and you're fully engaged. (16:04) And the artists that can create that are usually the most successful on earth.(16:09) Right now, Taylor Swift is probably the best at creating group flow. (16:14) You've been to a T-Swift show too. (16:16) Yeah, yep.(16:17) Back in the day.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:18) I didn't get into flow. (16:22) When I hear somebody say, yeah, I work out for two hours. (16:25) That's too much.(16:26) It's too much. (16:27) And you could probably get a better workout in half the amount of time. (16:33) I agree.(16:34) More is not always better. (16:36) But when you hear a half hour, what do you think? (16:38) Not enough, probably.(16:39) Not enough, right. (16:39) I mean, unless you're doing... (16:42) So when was this?(16:44) What's today? (16:44) Friday? (16:45) Yesterday?

Alan Lazaros

(16:46) What do you do?

Kevin Palmieri

(16:47) You go to the gym. (16:48) I just walk around. (16:49) I just show up, see what happens.

Alan Lazaros

(16:52) Okay, I've got the show.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:52) How long do you go? (16:54) An hour, but I don't set a timer. (16:57) My workouts are not timed.

Alan Lazaros

(16:59) Do you have them pre-planned or do you? (17:01) Yes, yeah. (17:03) Mine are based on where people are.(17:06) Mine are based on what sections of the gym are open.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:08) One of the reasons I go to the gym early is because if I don't, there is no open. (17:15) It's mayhem. (17:17) Now, I could go at 10 or 11, but if you...(17:20) I, at one time, I made the mistake of going to my gym at like four o'clock in the afternoon and I was like, I will never do this again. (17:28) This is absolutely atrocious. (17:31) There's not enough equipment for all the people there.(17:34) But yeah, I would say about an hour. (17:38) On Thursday, I did a boxing workout and it was five five-minute rounds with one minute breaks in between. (17:44) So it was a 30-minute, essentially a 30-minute.(17:46) That's a really good... (17:49) If you're doing that every day, that's good for your cardiovascular health. (17:52) You're not going to build muscle with that, obviously.(17:55) So yeah, I don't think 30 minutes is enough for like bodybuilding. (18:00) Same.

Alan Lazaros

(18:01) But I also think two hours is way too much. (18:04) Well, think about, dude, even if you're doing 10-minute miles, you can do three miles in 30 minutes pretty easily. (18:10) So 30 minutes is enough if you're doing cardio.(18:12) For cardio. (18:13) But again, it depends. (18:14) Enough is all depends on the goal.(18:15) All of this depends on the goal. (18:16) If you want to be a marathoner, obviously it's not.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:19) Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(18:20) So it really, it's so hard to have these conversations. (18:23) The stats show 90 minutes max for each jam. (18:29) Like them, love them.(18:30) Don't like Kobe Bryant, RIP. (18:34) I don't know the man. (18:35) I need to say that.(18:36) I just have to. (18:37) What I do know is that he was a peak performer in his sport and he used to do four a days. (18:42) So he'd wake up, do two hours in the gym.(18:46) Then he'd R&R for two hours. (18:48) Then he'd do it again. (18:50) And he'd do that four times every day.(18:53) And he just said, no one can catch me because I'm putting in three times as much work as everybody else. (18:58) And eventually you just, he always said, I was playing chess. (19:00) Everyone else was playing checkers.(19:01) Was it different stuff though? (19:03) Of course. (19:04) Like weight training, footwork, yeah, weight training.(19:08) He would go out into the desert and like run for an extended period of time.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:17) There was a gentleman named Rich Piana. (19:21) Remember Rich Piana? (19:23) He had something called the eight arm, the eight hour arm workout where he went to the gym and did arms for eight hours.(19:29) Dude. (19:30) He was also on an, in just an incredible amount of steroids. (19:34) I saw a video of this dude once.

Alan Lazaros

(19:35) More, more steroids, more food.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:39) He was, what I always appreciated about him is he was just very honest.

Alan Lazaros

(19:44) Yeah. (19:44) He was very candid. (19:45) He was, and he died.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:47) I was never a fan. (19:48) From steroids. (19:48) He was a little toxic for my liking.(19:50) Yeah, same. (19:50) But when I was in, when I was coming up in bodybuilding and I was like really into it, he was just one of the people you watched. (19:57) Also, in my opinion, was not very intelligent.

Alan Lazaros

(20:00) Like a lot of the stuff he said was really dumb. (20:02) Yes. (20:02) Just more.(20:03) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:04) More until you die. (20:05) Well, he was like, I'm eating 12 meals a day and I'm going to the gym for five hours a day. (20:10) It's like, I feel like you, you could do less than that.(20:14) You could do less than that. (20:17) But here's the problem.

Alan Lazaros

(20:18) Didn't he do all that synthol too where he injected?

Kevin Palmieri

(20:20) Yeah. (20:20) It's like the dude was just. (20:22) He owned businesses that I don't think required a ton of his time.(20:26) So he literally, he had a lot of time to go to the gym. (20:30) That's what happens when you have a lot of time to go to the gym. (20:32) And he loved the gym.(20:33) He's, there's people that love fitness. (20:34) That man loved fitness. (20:35) He was.

Alan Lazaros

(20:36) Fair, fair. (20:37) But at the end of the day, I don't recommend anyone do any of that because bodybuilders are dropping dead left and right from all this, all these dude, young bodybuilders too. (20:46) This is.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:46) It's going to get worse and worse and worse. (20:49) Now. (20:49) Yes, it is.(20:49) If you want to get in better shape the right way, if you want to get more consistent when it comes to your exercise, we have our 10 pound in 10 week challenge in the next level fitness accountability group. (21:01) You do not have to lose 10 pounds. (21:03) We have somebody in there who said, Hey, I want to gain weight.(21:07) Can I do that? (21:08) And sign up for the 10 pounds, 10 week challenge. (21:10) We said, absolutely.(21:10) Sure. (21:11) It's more the public accountability than it is anything else. (21:14) I don't care what your goal is.(21:16) I want you to be accountable. (21:17) I want you to be consistent and I want you to get results that maybe you've never gotten before. (21:21) That's the ultimate goal.

Alan Lazaros

(21:23) If you're in a cut, your goal weight will be lower than your current weight. (21:27) If you're in a muscle building phase, your goal weight can be higher. (21:30) All we care is that you have a goal weight that's different than your current weight.(21:35) And I think we have 19 people now signed up. (21:38) Let's do it.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:39) Now it starts on February 1st. (21:42) So if you're listening to this, I believe it is Saturday the 31st. (21:45) So it starts Sunday.(21:48) So it starts tomorrow. (21:51) Yep.

Alan Lazaros

(21:51) Would you like to say anything else about it? (21:54) Weigh-ins are due on February 1st. (21:57) This is, I'm going to track this.(21:58) So it'll be in a private spreadsheet. (22:01) It'll be, oh, actually I did talk to someone in the fitness group and I said, we have a private WhatsApp fitness accountability group with about 50 people in there. (22:11) And someone asked me, like, are we going to put our weights in here or DM them to you privately?(22:16) And I said, you know what? (22:16) Let's do some fear chasing. (22:19) And it's a private WhatsApp group.(22:21) So it's just going to be us who sees it. (22:23) But let's put our current way and our goal way in here because the whole point is public accountability. (22:28) Not public, but private WhatsApp accountability.(22:31) Next level fitness accountability. (22:33) I said, let's give this a shot because I know some people are really insecure about their weight, but I want to challenge them to fear chase because this is a community where anyone who bullies you is going to get kicked.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:42) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(22:44) And we're going to be leading the charge, right?

Kevin Palmieri

(22:45) So that's, we're going to be in there. (22:48) We're going to lead by example. (22:49) You'll, my weight is most likely going to start at 185.(22:52) I think that's tomorrow. (22:53) The next day, that's probably where I'm going to be. (22:56) What are you going to start at?(22:57) You think? (22:57) 210. (22:58) 210.(22:59) So you're going to be down to 200. (23:00) I'm going to be at 175. (23:03) I already told Alan behind the scenes, I'm going to continue after the 10 pounds because I want to, mostly.

Alan Lazaros

(23:10) I don't know if you'll still want to in 10 weeks. (23:12) I never do.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:13) I talk a lot of shit on this podcast. (23:16) And then the day after it's like, oh gosh.

Alan Lazaros

(23:19) Now everybody's done and- I think the recomp is important though.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:23) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(23:23) In our thirties. (23:24) If we don't recomp now, we're fucked, man.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:26) It's harder. (23:27) It gets harder. (23:28) Yeah.(23:29) If you're, if you're older than me, you know that. (23:31) All right, cool. (23:31) And then if you're looking- Can you explain recomp quick?

Alan Lazaros

(23:34) Oh my, go ahead. (23:35) Yeah, you can explain it. (23:36) Muscle mass, fat mass, bone mass.(23:39) Recomp means lowering your body fat as much as you can within reason. (23:44) I think I'm going to try to get mine to definitely sub 20% for sure. (23:48) Probably sub 15 at some point.(23:50) And then you just try your best not to accumulate fat after that. (23:54) Because as you get older and older and older, you do just accumulate a lot more fat over time. (23:59) And it's harder and harder to build muscle.(24:00) So a recomp basically means I'm going to cut as much as possible until it's basically unbearable. (24:05) And then start with a new foundation.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:07) I think that's the best way is like you're, you're rebuilding the foundation essentially. (24:11) For the future. (24:12) That's your, your understanding.(24:14) At the expense of all enjoyment in the present. (24:16) Mostly all of it, yeah. (24:18) Halo top.(24:19) I'm a huge fan of halo top. (24:20) You can get my, I can get my ice cream. (24:22) It's got protein in it.(24:22) I'm good there. (24:23) But they're also like $7 per like, what do I can't take an advantage of people? (24:28) I'm not balling like that.(24:29) You got to do it. (24:30) Yeah. (24:30) I'm not balling like that.(24:31) All right. (24:31) And also if you're out there and you're looking for extra accountability, when it comes to coaching, Alan has coaching slots available or reach out to Alan directly to take care of that. (24:38) As always, we love you.(24:39) We appreciate you. (24:40) Grateful for each and every one of you. (24:41) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single freaking day to help you get there.

Alan Lazaros

(24:49) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (24:51) Next Level Nation.