Most Relationships Fall Into This 1 Trap (2347)

What if the real problem in your relationship is how each person thinks about growth?

In this episode, Kevin asks Alan direct questions about a pattern he sees again and again while coaching couples. They talk about why partners can feel out of sync, how belief in yourself affects effort and results, and what happens when one person is moving forward faster than the other. Alan shares lessons from years of working with real couples, and Kevin challenges the ideas in real time so listeners can understand what this means for their own lives.

If you want a stronger relationship and a clearer future together, this conversation will make you think. Decide whether you are building forward or standing still.

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Show notes:
(2:27) Growth mindset Vs. Fixed mindset mismatch
(4:24) Real coaching example of partner conflict
(7:07) Why belief determines long-term success
(14:07) How to identify mindset differences together
(21:55) Courage to address feeling held back
(24:57) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) I think one of the most common issues with relationships is people think they're going to end up in a relationship and just because they end up in the relationship it's going to work out and they're missing some of the most important fundamentals. (0:11) We're going to talk about one of those today. (0:13) Health, wealth, and love.(0:15) All three pillars of success. (0:17) We focus on all three. (0:18) Today is going to be love.(0:20) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:23) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:24) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.(0:27) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers. (0:34) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth. (0:40) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.(0:56) Self-improvement in your pocket every day from anywhere completely free. (1:03) Welcome to Next Level University. (1:08) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2,347.(1:12) Most relationships fall into this one trap. (1:15) We haven't talked about relationships in a minute. (1:18) Alan and I were talking about that behind the scenes.(1:20) We've been talking about bodybuilding. (1:21) We've been talking about fitness. (1:22) We've been talking about money, compounding.(1:25) Alan's been talking about the global economy, which is always good for him. (1:28) He likes to get those episodes in. (1:29) You know it.(1:30) And Alan said, hey, we haven't done an episode on relationships in a while. (1:33) We should do that. (1:35) And I said, I think there's a little part of me that should just interview you because you have a podcast about relationships.(1:42) You coach couples. (1:44) And I feel like I would be a fraud if I taught. (1:47) Not that I don't think I know a lot.(1:49) I think I've studied relationships and I know a fair amount, but I'd rather pick your brain. (1:52) So you wanted to do an episode on the fact that there's usually a mismatch in relationships. (2:00) Explain that first and then we'll kind of dive into.(2:03) For you watching or listening, I'm literally just going to try to treat this like it's an interview. (2:08) And I'm just going to pick Alan's brain and go where my curiosity takes me. (2:13) Some of the listeners are very upset by that.(2:15) Some of them are pumped. (2:16) Probably the majority are upset. (2:18) Why?(2:19) No, I'm kidding. (2:20) They don't want to hear you talk. (2:22) I talk a lot on these episodes.(2:24) I'm sure they want to hear you as well. (2:25) Well, you'll hear me. (2:26) I'll ask the questions.(2:27) All right. (2:27) So you're talking about growth mindset versus fixed mindset. (2:31) One of your favorite books, a book that you always recommend to people to start is by Carol Dweck mindset.

Alan Lazaros

(2:38) Yes.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:38) I think it's mindsets. (2:40) Let me, let me real quick, real quick, real quick. (2:43) No, it's mindset.(2:44) Is it, is that what it is? (2:45) Yes, sir. (2:46) You're a hundred percent.(2:46) You're a hundred percent. (2:48) 99.9. I was 99.9 as well. (2:50) And then mindset.(2:55) Okay. (2:56) Just want to make sure. (2:57) Okay.(2:57) We got to be, I saw it. (2:58) I saw it one time and I was like, wait, have I been messing that up this whole time? (3:02) We gave that book away at one of our next level live events.(3:05) Remember? (3:06) I do. (3:06) We both gave away our favorite book in a raffle.(3:09) Okay. (3:10) I gave away the compound effect by Darren Hardy. (3:12) He gave away mindset by Carol Dweck.(3:15) And it wasn't there a third book. (3:18) Yes. (3:18) I, I might've been algorithms to live by or essentialism.(3:21) I think it might've been essentialism. (3:23) Yeah. (3:24) This is a throw up.(3:25) This was like 2021 to 2022. (3:30) I think a while ago. (3:31) Yeah, it was, it's like four years, not that long, but I know, but four years or 40 years, it feels different.(3:36) It's the same at this point. (3:38) You believe we're already in the middle of fucking February. (3:41) Yeah.(3:42) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(3:42) What?

Kevin Palmieri

(3:43) How is it possible? (3:44) Yeah. (3:44) We're 47.(3:46) No 49 days into the year. (3:47) I think I do a lot of projections for clients. (3:50) All right.(3:50) Enough of that growth mindset, fixed mindset. (3:52) So I coach, I've been coaching couples now for five years. (3:57) Yeah.(3:58) And we have 57 virtual relationship talks events under our belt. (4:03) The 57th is actually on Thursday. (4:04) So technically 56, the link for which will be in the show notes, by the way, and we're doing a virtual private event on identifying the growth or fixed mindset in you and or your partner.(4:17) But the, the big idea is what gave me the idea for this, which is everyone I've coached every couple I've coached. (4:24) And we have this thing called the hybrid model where I coach the man, she coaches the woman one-on-one. (4:28) And then we have biweekly four person sessions with me, Emilia and both partners.(4:36) As of right now, we're coaching all the coaches, all the couples that we're currently coaching are heterosexual. (4:42) So in this case, it's man and woman. (4:43) Okay.(4:44) But we coach both, but in the context of this, it's I coach the man, she coaches the woman boom. (4:49) All right. (4:50) So there's a couple I'm thinking of right now where they have achieved a lot of dreams.(4:58) All right. (5:00) Engagement, engagement, party, wedding, bought a home like in the last few years, just absolutely crushing it. (5:07) When we first met them three years ago, both their careers were here and they've leveled up several times, both in their careers and in their personal life.(5:14) The man is considering going into real estate and flipping homes. (5:18) And he's preparing for that. (5:20) They're also preparing to start a family.(5:22) They also want to redo their own home. (5:24) And what I sat them down and said with Emilia was, the stuff we talked about three years ago and like mapped out where you achieved it all. (5:34) And I'm super proud of you guys.(5:36) Awesome. (5:37) Don't care. (5:38) Next level, next level.(5:39) Don't care. (5:40) Congratulations. (5:41) Next level.(5:42) I'm not the guy for like celebrating the current level. (5:45) Don't care. (5:45) Next level.(5:46) So when we did that, and I said it nicer than that, obviously, and I know you're listening to by the way, it was like, we got to map out the next two to five years at least. (5:58) And we came across this conundrum. (6:01) The female in the relationship is more micro and the male in the relationship is more macro in this case.(6:07) And the female is applying to jobs. (6:09) She said, well, if I get this job, then X, Y, Z. (6:13) And the male is macro to micro.(6:15) So he's like, but so the female cannot map out the future until she understands the next thing, which you resonate with, right? (6:26) Okay. (6:27) She's like, well, if I get this job, then a lot of things can change, but the man can't move forward until it's mapped out.(6:34) So they're in this stalemate. (6:37) And I was like, you guys are doing this and we need to fix it because the ultimate issue underneath this is a growth mindset versus a fixed mindset. (6:43) The female has applied to seven jobs.(6:45) She's doing a great job. (6:46) She hasn't gotten one yet. (6:47) She was getting disheartened.(6:49) That's a fixed mindset. (6:50) The man in the relationship is doing real estate stuff. (6:53) He's 2,000 cold calls in, still failing and hasn't lost a lick of enthusiasm.(6:57) He's like, I'm right there. (6:59) I can feel it. (7:00) I don't know if he's correct on that by the way or not, but I love the mentality.(7:03) So here's my point for the listeners. (7:07) Every couple I've ever coached has one partner who believes in themselves more than the other partner every single time. (7:15) With you and Taryn, when you two first met, it was definitely her.(7:19) And that I think has flipped. (7:20) And now it's you. (7:21) So you've talked to me in the past about how you would say things that were not explained of like, oh, don't worry about that.(7:28) That it won't be an issue in two years. (7:30) And you're like, you had to catch yourself. (7:33) That's a growth mindset.(7:35) Talking to someone who doesn't have as much of a growth mindset where it's like, no, no, no. (7:38) I need the now to be certain in order to get to the next thing. (7:42) Whereas if you have a growth mindset, you can seemingly just say, screw all that.(7:47) I'm going to focus on the future and then trust that my capabilities will grow in tandem with that. (7:52) So if you're out there watching or listening, and you've ever been in an intimate relationship, I want you to think about, and this is hard if you're the fixed mindset one, it's zero to 10. (8:02) 10 is a growth mindset.(8:03) Zero is a fully fixed mindset. (8:05) So fully growth, fully fixed. (8:08) Let's say the man, I think is probably a seven, probably an eight, probably an eight.(8:13) And the female is probably a six. (8:16) So she is the bottleneck to their success. (8:19) She is.(8:20) And that's okay. (8:21) And I've told her that, and we've talked about that. (8:23) And there's no shame in that.(8:25) Why though? (8:25) What's the why? (8:26) What's the why underneath that?(8:27) Why? (8:28) Because she will always be more reluctant to fail forward than the person who is thinking more long-term. (8:38) And there's a quote that I've said to you before that you think is stupid, but success is going from failure to failure without losing any enthusiasm.(8:46) It's a really famous quote by Winston Churchill, but I don't even care if it's Winston. (8:50) I care about the quote. (8:52) Like that is what success is going from failure to failure, to failure, to failure, to failure, to failure, to failure, without losing any drive.(9:01) When you fail, if you get smarter and stronger and actually more driven, and it ignites you instead of shuts you down, you have this superpower. (9:10) And so I think that's what it is, is she might be three applications away from her dream job, but if she gets disheartened by number seven, she's not going to get the number 10. (9:21) And that's why she has coaches.(9:22) So it's working really well. (9:24) I think she's probably past that now, but, and this is the last piece I'll share before I kick it to you, Kev, is I have a client who I promised. (9:33) I said, sign up for a 12 week package.(9:35) And I promise you, you will get an aligned high paying job. (9:39) And high paying is relative in this. (9:42) Okay.(9:42) She's like, done. (9:44) Dude, 140 applications, 30 responses, 10 interviews, one aligned job. (9:52) I have the numbers, I have it saved.(9:54) I was getting to the end going, Oh, I'm going to have to give you all your money back. (10:00) Cause I couldn't believe how long it was taking. (10:03) Right.(10:03) But she did, she got an aligned job. (10:05) She loves her freaking job. (10:06) She's listening to, by the way, this is a different person.(10:08) So my point is, is success might be on the other end of that next application. (10:15) But if you're not willing to apply to 140 jobs and be disappointed 140 times, you're not going to get that aligned job. (10:21) And that's why I say success is a numbers game.(10:23) You have to be willing to just fail until you succeed. (10:27) Entrepreneurship is a great example, a great teacher for that. (10:29) I think that's why, if I think of all the relationships I'm aware of where one of the people is an entrepreneur and the other one is not, that's usually the differentiator.(10:40) Is the person who's an entrepreneur just is used to getting rejected all day, every day. (10:45) And they also understand I've taken a thousand shots and I've gotten five goals. (10:51) Hopefully more than that.(10:52) Let's say a thousand shots in 20 goals maybe. (10:54) What do you think the real percentage is? (10:58) I think it depends on what it is.(11:00) Like I coached 26 individuals. (11:03) I've coached hundreds over the years. (11:05) Gained many, lost many.(11:08) I've done 6,859 coaching sessions. (11:12) I haven't updated today so it's more than that. (11:15) But I wonder how many L's I took in order to have those W's.(11:20) Mathematically it's got to be 10x. (11:23) Like one 10. (11:24) 10 L's for every W?(11:27) Yeah or nine L's for every one W. (11:28) Nine L's. (11:29) So if you take 10 shots you'll get one maybe?(11:32) Yeah. (11:33) I think it gets lower as you go to a degree because you get better. (11:39) Yeah you get better.(11:40) You get more credibility. (11:42) You get more credibility. (11:43) I was putting together the presentation for the Next Level Podcast Accelerator and I've been on 1,100 podcasts and in pod match I think I have 350 five-star reviews.(11:52) Nice. (11:53) But if you think about the percentage, that's 35%. (11:56) But then you can dive into the specifics.(12:02) 31%. (12:03) Okay. (12:04) How many of those shows were before?(12:06) How many of those were actually through pod match? (12:08) You said 350? (12:09) Yeah 350 out of 1,100.(12:11) Divided by 1,100? (12:12) Yeah. (12:15) So 31.8% so 32%. (12:18) So 32% of people give you a great review? (12:21) Well no it's different because not all 1,100 shows were through pod match. (12:26) Many of those were through matchmaker.(12:28) A fair amount of those were done before we were using those platforms. (12:33) Great point. (12:34) How many of those shows that episode never went out because the show died before?(12:38) It's probably quote unquote higher but even that it's like 1,100 to 350. (12:43) Like that's really good quote unquote but it's not. (12:47) It still could be disheartening.(12:49) That's why I love the baseball metaphor man. (12:52) Get on base 30% of the time and you're like amazing right? (12:56) I wouldn't say get on base because if you get walked all the time nobody fucking cares but if you if you have a batting average like 300 or above yes.(13:04) Yeah so if you're hitting the ball. (13:07) If you get a hit three out of ten times you're gonna you're doing just fine yeah. (13:11) You're like really good?(13:13) You get a hit like 3.3 out of 10 times you're really good. (13:18) I like it. (13:19) I mean there's intricacies right?(13:20) What's the hall of fame 350? (13:22) No no you can get in 300. (13:23) Depends on how many home runs and rbis and there's a bunch of fucking stats.(13:27) Just give me give me the high level man. (13:29) There's no there's no answer. (13:31) Is there anyone with a 400?(13:33) I believe Ted Williams. (13:35) There's only one player I believe in history who had a 400. (13:38) I think he batted 405.(13:39) He's just world class. (13:40) Also back in the day no steroids on either end. (13:45) The pitchers weren't throwing 105.(13:47) They weren't throwing 105 but yeah it's different. (13:49) Okay let's get back on let's get what is the what's the word I'm looking for prescription for the person who is with the fixed mindset and then for the growth mindset? (14:02) The growth mindset we'll do the fixed mindset first.(14:07) The first thing is sit down and (14:10) you have to identify both partners have to identify who it is and one of this is the hardest (14:16) part because a lot of people have a fixed mindset they don't think they do right that's actually (14:20) the paradox it's almost like you being like yeah I have a fixed mindset almost proves you don't (14:27) so because that doesn't feel very nice I knew the second I read the book I was like oh my goodness (14:36) that's about me that part right there but the fixed mindset that is me I think I'm gonna send (14:41) this book to her it's a great book yeah yeah I when I read that book I was like hmm well that's (14:46) not you I know I know that's not you that's why it's my favorite book that book is that book has (14:54) helped me more than any other book I've ever read and I read it once like I don't even know how (14:59) many years ago that's why better than any other book ever because he actually connected with me (15:06) and I was like oh my goodness this they could have written the she could have written the (15:10) fixed mindset part about me and it would really get all of that stuff whoa yeah okay so yep um (15:17) first is self-identify no uh sit down with your partner and check in discuss growth mindset and (15:25) fixed mindset google it chat gpt it whatever just just put it somewhere read it together (15:29) the definition of each and then figure out who has higher growth mindset that's step one once (15:39) you figure out which one has a higher growth mindset and which one has a higher fixed mindset (15:43) or bigger fixed mindset then you the fixed mindset person needs humility typically humility (15:50) courage and vulnerability is the triad of transformation every couple i've ever coached (15:55) picture an infinity symbol with two triangles in the middle kind of looks like eyes imagine (15:59) triangle glasses okay bottom left humility so left triangle bottom left humility courage (16:07) vulnerability the right triangle humility courage vulnerability did this saturday with a new couple (16:14) we're coaching shout out to you by the way I know you're listening both of you they both listened (16:18) shout out yeah i don't know who you are because of anonymity but shout out to you this is what (16:23) we did virtually meet you i had them do this exercise and this is do this if you're out there (16:31) okay i said female in the relationship keep it anonymous please identify which one's (16:38) red which one's yellow which one's green humility courage vulnerability she said (16:43) vulnerability is red courage is yellow no yeah courage is yellow humility is green okay (16:51) the man same thing ladies first then man he said courage is red i agreed i forget the other two (16:59) but you gotta identify which one's red and then i had them see if they disagree so i said okay (17:09) female in the relationship do you agree with him and she said yeah that sounds accurate and then (17:14) male in the relationship do you agree with her and he said yeah but i think courage is probably (17:21) a challenge too and then we defined what vulnerability means to her what courage means (17:27) to him and now they are gonna it's gonna work way better it's like a huge unlock because i think one (17:34) of the problems is a lot of people with a fixed mindset seem humble dude they're not as humble (17:39) as they think you know this as soon as you started believing in yourself you were all of a sudden (17:43) this arrogant dude it's like you you said it was like a weapon you've never used before so you're (17:48) shooting it all over the place and talk about that behind the scenes no no i'm kidding i'm kidding (17:52) no but the truth is humility needs to be inward humility and this is something i would love for (17:58) you to illuminate like what is it like to go from a fixed mindset like carol duwek's book when you (18:04) read it you were like that's me to now mr growth man i don't know if i'm mr growth man i do (18:10) appreciate it i i think eventually it gets normal just like it's normal on the other end but in the (18:15) interim it's very strange because number one you start you almost go from like not thinking (18:22) anything is possible to thinking everything is possible which and then you start like talking (18:28) it i think the first thing is you start talking it long before you walk it so your story brendan (18:34) the bee's knees baby we we were we were going to an event and i had a very fixed mindset for sure (18:41) and i was terrified to go because i didn't think i was gonna fit in and i thought people were gonna (18:46) think i was a fraud and i didn't think i knew enough and i was afraid to talk to people and (18:51) it was just this whole thing and we went there i was like oh it was the best i was i could just (18:57) have deep conversations with anybody who was wearing a name tag i just go up to them and say (19:01) hey what's your dream and people are like oh my god this is amazing and i met a bunch of people (19:05) and i realized i had way more clarity than i thought i did and then when i came back i was (19:09) a little arrogant i was like i'm the fucking i'm the man like what do you mean i don't understand (19:14) like why does nobody think i'm the man i'm the man i just went to an event nobody knows what the (19:17) fuck they want out of life i know everything i know exactly what my future is going to look like (19:22) and it felt like that it felt like i knew exactly what my future was going to look like (19:28) because i believe thinks they're humble but humility you just don't believe yourself (19:34) humility real humility is i believe in myself 10 out of 10 and i still know life's going to (19:39) smack it's hard to it's hard to have humility if you don't have belief yeah exactly it's hard (19:44) i think that that's what i would end up with to kind of what do you mean we didn't even get to (19:48) the second fucking part yet we're gonna do a part two we need a second part i have a question that (19:54) way is this how you are on other podcasts of course you give them half you give them half (20:00) answers no no but we have to go i have to go we're gonna do part two okay i'm fine this is (20:07) the primer i want to know what the person who has the growth mindset does in terms of communication (20:12) in terms of courage yeah yeah but i want to courage no no i but what does that mean it means (20:18) you have to have you have to risk how much are you supposed to go offending your partner are you (20:24) supposed to try to get them to where you are you supposed to try to get them closer to are they (20:29) supposed to come all the way to your end does it does it benefit if to have balance mindset person (20:34) is really humble they will own it and they'll say yeah fair i actually don't know how you do what (20:40) you do like it's unbelievable what you do and they'll give they'll give the respect and the (20:45) credit and like yeah please help if they're humble um if they're not they're gonna attack (20:50) you and try to make you feel like you're on some high oh you you think i fucking don't believe in (20:54) myself look at you you fucking burnout i'm joking but they will they'll attack it's the worst oh (21:00) it's the worst and all ultimately if you have a and you really do you have to actually you can't (21:05) be fake about that like you need to actually be unbelievable behind the scenes like otherwise (21:10) you're just you're just lying and delusional um but assuming you actually do walk your talk (21:15) and really do have a growth mindset you really do work on yourself and you do have a personal (21:19) development plan you have to have the courage to call it out how big i was too cowardly in the (21:24) past how big can the delta be the difference it gets bigger and bigger if you don't address it (21:30) so but how what's the what is the line of like there's no not there's no coming back for this (21:35) obviously i don't mean it that way yeah but like when do you notice conflict intention versus when (21:40) it's like okay this is much smoother now is it connected to the number is it just connected to (21:46) progress in the right direction typically the one with the highest growth mindset feels held back (21:55) um by the other partner but never has the courage to say it (22:01) and usually they're tiptoeing and walking on eggshells around the delicate sensibility of (22:05) the fixed mindset person i used to do this with you all the time i would like constantly with (22:09) all the time a lot of shittiness about yeah you've handled it whenever i've actually told you (22:16) but it's been hard to like yeah be the guy to say kev well it's i know you're feeling good (22:23) about yourself you've never really felt like that good about yourself but you gotta fucking lock it (22:26) in you gotta like you gotta i was more talking about when you don't feel good about yourself (22:30) and i have to say brother you can't cling to certainty for the rest of your life like (22:34) i have to go this is what i said to kev this is what you can say to your partner be careful (22:41) i said kev i have to do this i go to bed thinking about reaching my full potential i wake up (22:46) thinking about it i have to go i have to climb this mountain with or without you i want it to (22:51) be with you but i have to go with or without you so you let me know if this is a mountain you really (22:56) want to climb because if you don't i totally understand seriously and that i think takes (23:02) tremendous courage for sure and vulnerability and that's what this growth mindset person in (23:07) the relationship can do is i have to do this and i want you with me but i also don't want (23:13) to force you and drag you up a mountain you don't want to climb so i think that's the best advice (23:16) i've got and we do not have to do a part two i don't think all right he doesn't want to do a (23:19) part two i want to do i would do part four i like interviewing you it's fun it gets it gets me back (23:24) in the flow if you still want to we can do it we'll we'll chat about it all right we'll chat (23:28) about it we're gonna end up recording i was gonna say reach out to us if you want us to do it but (23:31) we're gonna record later so unless you're you couldn't possibly unless you're psychic okay next (23:36) level live 2026 is april 11th we do not have all the details locked we don't have the times (23:42) necessarily i'm pretty sure we're doing it we're live streaming from my house which is pretty cool (23:45) but this is going to be all day casa de kevin all day deep dive on all things success we're (23:51) talking about fundamentals we're going to have breakout sessions we're going to go deep this (23:55) is a workshop right so we want you to leave with tangible tactical tactical excuse me takeaways (24:00) where you can get to the next level not a podcast episode something much much deeper is our goal (24:04) for this bring your partner bring your partner bring your partner bring your partner and then (24:09) alan's coaching always yeah so if you struggle with this yeah uh emily and i will always fight (24:21) for your goals and dreams and for your potential more than any level of bottleneck or fixed (24:27) mindset like it's an unsung hero but ultimately if you don't believe in yourselves we will help (24:33) you increase that and then you'll go for more you'll learn more you'll grow more and you'll (24:37) succeed more eventually so yeah if you don't believe in yourself you need to get around (24:42) someone who will help you challenge you they'll challenge you to to like you're better than you (24:47) think you can do this it's just going to take a little more effort you got this yeah so if you (24:51) someone to push you in the right direction um i've got you oh all right as always we love you (24:58) we appreciate you grateful for each and every one of you and if you are as committed as you say you (25:02) are to getting to the next level make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every (25:05) single freaking day to help you get there keep leveling up to reach your full potential next (25:09) elimination thanks for joining us for another episode of next level university we love connecting (25:16) with the next level family we mean it when we say family if you ever need anything please (25:21) reach out to us directly everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes thank (25:27) you again and we will talk to you tomorrow