Why "Personal Development" Needs To Come First (2350)

In today’s episode of Next Level University, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros challenge a common misconception about success that keeps people stuck longer than they realize. Many focus on outcomes while neglecting the internal growth required to sustain them, which creates cycles of stress, imposter feelings, and fragile confidence. The real leverage point is not what you achieve. It is who you become.

If you want more consistency, stronger self-trust, and results that actually last, this episode will shift how you think about personal development and execution at a fundamental level. Do not chase the next level. Become the person you cannot escape.

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Show notes:
(2:41) Reactive growth Vs. Proactive preparation
(5:32) The invisible compounding effect of self-improvement
(7:02) Your life depends on your awareness baseline
(13:19) The Imposter Circle Vs. The Growth Circle framework
(16:09) Bottlenecks of results-first Vs. Growth-first patterns
(17:10) Productive avoidance and misused personal development
(20:06) Identify your pattern and correct it strategically
(22:49) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri
(0:00) I did something incredibly productive this morning, and I still found a way to feel guilty about it, and that's something I'd like to talk about. (0:07) Do you have a personal development plan? (0:11) Welcome to Next Level University.
(0:13) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:15) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus. (0:18) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no-BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.
Alan Lazaros
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Kevin Palmieri
(0:31) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.
Alan Lazaros
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Kevin Palmieri
(0:53) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:59) Next Level Nation today, for episode number 2350, Why Personal Development Needs to Come First. (1:07) I have this cycle, and if you've been listening to us for a while, you know this cycle at this point, where I go all in on my own personal development, that creates external results, which then requires a lot of my time and my focus, and then I kind of forget about my own personal development.
(1:23) Then I have a short mid-life crisis, and then I get back on my mid-life crisis, back on my personal development, and then it kind of rinses and repeats. (1:32) Started Romwod, which is now Pliability. (1:36) For those who don't know, it's just an app that helps you practice mobility on a daily basis, and I did it yesterday, I did it today, and I had a moment today where I was like, this is just a waste of my time, I should be doing something else, anything else, other than being on the floor just rolling around right now.
(1:52) What am I doing? (1:53) I don't know which one you did. (1:54) There's things that need to be done, I don't remember the name of it.
(1:58) And then I said, well Kev, this is what got you here though. (2:04) Remember for however many years, when I lived with Matt, I got up every single day at five o'clock, I went out into the living room, I took my pre-workout, I journaled, and I did mobility every single day. (2:16) You can't forget that.
(2:17) Did it feel like a waste of time then? (2:19) No. (2:20) It didn't feel like a waste of time at all.
(2:21) But why does it feel like a waste of time now? (2:22) Because it doesn't feel like you should be working on you, it feels like you should be working on other things. (2:27) So I thought that could make for a cool episode because, I don't know, if I'm dealing with it, I have to imagine other people probably go through it too, and I still haven't figured this out because this happens on repeat.
(2:37) I catch it quicker, which is progress, but I'm still dealing with it.
Alan Lazaros
(2:41) Yeah, most challenges in life are not one-timers.
Kevin Palmieri
(2:46) Unfortunately.
Alan Lazaros
(2:46) All the success principles we teach on this podcast are things that need to be practiced regularly. (2:52) There's no one who's like, oh, that's gone. (2:54) We're done now.
(2:55) Yeah, we're done. (2:56) It's like exercising once. (2:57) I'm good now.
(3:00) So the reason why we're doing this episode is Emilia and I have a Relationship Talks coaching couple client, and they have a huge dog, St. Bernard, I want to say, huge, massive dog. (3:15) This dog is like 160 pounds or something crazy, yeah, horse of a dog, and they have a toddler and they have a newborn, and they both have full-time jobs, and they have been having challenges with that. (3:32) They're handling it well, but they're handling it a little bit reactively, and they did prepare somewhat, but after the call, I remember telling Emilia, isn't it interesting how they're trying to level up reactively, and you and I want to start a family.
(3:48) We need to work on this now. (3:50) We need to prepare everything starting now. (3:53) We might not have a kid for three to five years, and we're going to start working on it now.
(3:58) She's been kind of planning to be a mom her entire life in some ways, and I've been thinking a lot about what I'm going to be as a dad and all that stuff, but you can either prepare reactively or prepare proactively. (4:09) Now, for the parents out there, I know. (4:12) I know.
(4:12) I get it. (4:13) I get it. (4:14) I know.
(4:15) You just can't prepare. (4:17) Yes, you can. (4:19) Yes, you can, and yes, there's certain things that you can't prepare for.
(4:22) I get it. (4:22) Okay. (4:22) There will be some surprises.
(4:24) I have no fucking doubt. (4:25) I'm not going into this arrogant, but I'm going to prepare and prepare and prepare. (4:30) What is my personal development plan?
(4:33) And Jim Rohn has a quote. (4:35) He says, work harder on yourself than you do at your job, and you've been working harder on the business than you are on yourself.
Kevin Palmieri
(4:43) That's the pattern. (4:45) But you know the problem? (4:46) The business tends to do really well when I do that, and there's a delay between when I feel like it's doing really well and when I feel like I'm not doing really well.
(4:55) The delay is less now than it's ever been, but it takes a while to ... (5:01) I mean, again, I'm crushing the 10-pound-in-10-week challenge. (5:04) I'm crushing the gym.
(5:05) My sleep has been impeccable. (5:07) It's been great.
Alan Lazaros
(5:08) Nice.
Kevin Palmieri
(5:09) It's been great. (5:09) I went to bed at ... (5:10) I was in bed at 8.45 last night. (5:12) It was great. (5:14) A lot of the stuff has been great. (5:16) Diet's been really good.
(5:17) I've been eating well. (5:18) Get my veggies in. (5:19) Get my micros in.
(5:20) I've been hydrating up a storm. (5:23) The move's been going well. (5:24) Everything's getting optimized here.
(5:25) I feel really good. (5:26) Nice. (5:27) But it still feels like a waste of time to do certain things, and I don't know why.
(5:32) Yeah.
Alan Lazaros
(5:32) The journaling, the pliability, or mobility. (5:40) Some of the most important ... (5:41) reading, reading, for sure.
(5:43) Feels like it's doing nothing. (5:45) Yeah. (5:45) Some of the things that feel like the biggest waste of time are actually the most important long-term.
(5:53) It's hard to ...
Kevin Palmieri
(5:54) Yeah.
Alan Lazaros
(5:54) 100%. (5:55) Because they're not urgent. (5:56) None of them are urgent.
Kevin Palmieri
(5:57) That's why ... (5:57) That's what it is. (5:58) It's so hard to sell personal development, because it's like, well, no.
(6:02) It's always helping, and you would be way less successful without it, but you can't really point. (6:07) You can't point to one book. (6:08) You can't point to one journal entry.
(6:10) You can't point to one mobility session.
Alan Lazaros
(6:13) Yeah.
Kevin Palmieri
(6:13) You can't point to one coaching call. (6:15) It's the accumulation of all those. (6:19) Yeah.
(6:19) We were doing ...
Alan Lazaros
(6:20) We're 37 today, days into pliability, Emilie and I. (6:28) Dude, when we first started, there was ... (6:30) I don't know what the name of the pose is, to be honest with you.
(6:36) I'm not going to come up with it. (6:38) But I've noticed now, there was something that I couldn't do in the beginning at all. (6:42) It was like, and now I'm, no problem.
(6:45) And that's 36 days. (6:46) There's noticeable changes, but on the day-to-day, it doesn't really feel like it's doing anything. (6:53) Let's do this.
(6:54) So I did this with you probably last month, where I said, okay, Kevin Palmieri, we're going to take away all your awareness. (7:02) We're going to take away all the books you've ever read. (7:04) We're going to take away all the coaching sessions with me.
(7:07) We're going to take away all the interviews we did. (7:09) We're going to take away all the events we went to, all the events we co-hosted. (7:17) We're going to take away all the belief you've built over the last 2,300 episodes.
(7:22) We're going to take away all the community, and we're going to take away all your fitness, all the work you've done on your body and your mind and fitness and focus. (7:38) All right. (7:38) If we did that, and then you were still had the responsibilities you have right now, you would crumble so fast.
(7:47) You would wake up in the morning and not even know what to do. (7:49) This has been interesting for me, and I want this to come off not as a dick, but I also want to be as just direct as I can be. (7:59) Yeah, there are times when I'm coaching people, and I am shocked.
(8:08) I don't want to say how little they know, but there's certain things where it's like, oh, yeah. (8:14) I've been writing emails since I was 17, so when I'm writing an email to a potential prospect or for a promotion with my client, there's definitely a noticeable, oh, you don't even know where to start. (8:33) I can craft an email and get great responses, sell a package, tutoring, whatever it is.
(8:40) That has been interesting for me, because I don't wake up in the morning going, I'm so good at emails.
Kevin Palmieri
(8:46) Yeah, yeah.
Alan Lazaros
(8:46) You know what I mean? (8:47) That's one of the things that's cool about coaching is you get all the cheat codes, because you're helping so many people from so many industries. (8:53) I think my point of this is my personal development set point is so far beyond my current results that I, yeah, I'm overwhelmed, but not really.
(9:05) Whereas what will happen with you is you'll get to the next level, next level, next level, and then be like, oh, shit, Kevin is behind.
Kevin Palmieri
(9:12) For sure.
Alan Lazaros
(9:13) And for me, I'm, and part of this is probably because you enable me to do this too, but my life is set up differently than yours. (9:20) Yours is more reactive with what you're doing. (9:23) And that's by design, by the way, that's not just me.
(9:25) Okay. (9:27) But I try really hard to keep my personal development set point way beyond my current results and my current responsibilities. (9:34) And I think that if anyone's ever felt in over their head, I remember when I went from high school to WPI, Worship Polytechnic Institute, I was in over my head for sure.
(9:44) I remember being like, oh shit, this is, this is, this is crazy. (9:50) And very quickly I just found the smartest people I could, study buddies, and just got to work. (9:59) But very rarely do I feel like I'm in over my head.
(10:05) I marathon for sure.
Kevin Palmieri
(10:06) All the time. (10:08) Really? (10:09) Yeah.
(10:10) Like, I think it's probably less than ever, but when I, so when I went to Toronto to Evan Carmichael's mastermind and came back, we got a handful of like new big clients. (10:23) I've definitely felt in over my head. (10:25) For sure.
(10:26) When you were there? (10:27) No, when I was there. (10:29) No, no.
(10:29) When I came back.
Alan Lazaros
(10:31) I think this is, this is it. (10:32) Like, when you went there, you had put in so much work that you were ready for that. (10:41) And I think you were ready for those clients too.
(10:43) What you weren't ready for is everything else and all these clients.
Kevin Palmieri
(10:48) I think a lot of it is like the, the expectation of it. (10:54) So we got, they're awesome. (10:56) They're amazing.
(10:57) This amazing couple, it's, they're awesome. (10:59) But when I met them, they're like, yeah, we're going to do, I mean, we're going to probably start like three videos a week, minimum. (11:03) We might even start with five.
(11:06) And I was like, oh, I mean, okay, you know, we'll see, we'll see what happens. (11:09) But sure, we can do that. (11:10) And then like, it took like three weeks to get anything out.
(11:13) And then they did like five and they're like, oh my goodness, we're burning down because of life. (11:16) And it's like, yeah, no, this is how it goes. (11:18) So I think that helped me realign my expectations because it was like, you're going to, so you're going to go from not doing any videos to almost doing as much as we are.
(11:27) Like, there's no way it's not going to happen most likely. (11:30) So I think that helped me. (11:31) It's like, okay, I'm further along than I thought I was here.
(11:35) Plus, didn't Evan call you out live on some stuff?
Alan Lazaros
(11:38) Good stuff, yeah. (11:38) And you were able to, yeah, yeah, I don't mean to be negative. (11:42) It's the imposter syndrome thing.
(11:46) What's an example of this? (11:50) I remember we were going to do a retreat and you were like, dude, I don't know, three hours? (11:55) Like I need to really prepare for this.
(11:57) And I was like, dude, you could do three hours like that. (11:59) And you said you're projecting. (12:01) Yes.
(12:02) Okay.
Kevin Palmieri
(12:02) Now I bet you, you could. (12:03) Well, I had a moment last night and again, this is the weird thing is it might, I don't know. (12:10) I don't know if anybody really talks about it.
(12:11) So it's either going to make a ton of sense or no, it will be a complete surprise to everybody. (12:15) I don't know. (12:16) We did the Next Level Podcast Accelerator last night, last night.
(12:22) And I did an hour and 45 minutes, supposed to be an hour. (12:25) I went long. (12:25) It was an hour and 45 minutes.
(12:27) And I got off and I was like, yeah, I could definitely do like, I could do an eight hour day on podcasting for sure. (12:33) Nice. (12:34) But that was the first time that I felt that way.
(12:38) So again, 2,350 episodes, 21 rounds of group coaching. (12:45) I've done thousands of coaching calls. (12:48) And then it was like, okay, now it's good.
(12:51) Now it's ready.
Alan Lazaros
(12:53) The cake is done. (12:54) 21 times four is 84 group coaching sessions. (12:58) Right?
(12:59) No, no. (13:00) 21 times 12. (13:01) I'm sorry.
(13:01) Yeah. (13:01) Yeah. (13:02) 252.
(13:03) So we did 12 weeks, 252 sessions, 21 times, 21 times 12 is 252. (13:10) Sorry for confusing everyone. (13:11) Yeah.
(13:11) So we did 252 after the end of this group will be 252 group coaching sessions. (13:19) And this is what I want to land for the listeners. (13:22) If you take nothing else from this episode, this is what we call the imposter circle versus the growth circle.
(13:27) We teach this at Next Level Live, which by the way, April 11th. (13:33) The imposter circle is the inner circle is your capabilities. (13:40) Then the next circle out from that is your awareness.
(13:45) And the next circle out from that is your results. (13:48) In other words, your results on the outside are way bigger than your awareness and capability. (13:55) So you feel trapped by your own results because you don't know how to hold onto them.
(13:59) You don't know how to scale them. (14:00) You feel like an imposter. (14:01) You feel like people are going to find out that you know, you don't know what the hell you're doing.
(14:06) The growth circle is the one where you're proactive in your personal development. (14:11) The growth circle is your results are the small one. (14:13) The inner circle is your results.
(14:15) Then the next layer out is your capabilities and the next layer out is your awareness. (14:19) And what I'm just going to state right here, right now in podcasting and business at Next Level University as a company, as the CEO of this company, my awareness and capabilities are so way beyond my current results. (14:35) So I don't feel, I don't feel like I'm not, I'm not concerned.
(14:40) I, now again, you need to be concerned because you need to stay humble, but I'm not afraid this is going to be ripped out from under us because I know how we got here and I know how we're going to get there. (14:54) And while I need to stay humble and productively paranoid, I also am not, I don't wake up with panic attacks. (14:59) Like I feel pretty confident in the level we're playing at now to get to the next level.
(15:06) We have to dial up, not down. (15:09) And you can't dial up because you're already in over your head a little bit, which is why we're delegating and having this conversation. (15:16) But I'm always trying to stay way ahead.
(15:19) I want my awareness and capabilities to always be way beyond my results. (15:23) The problem is you are basically undervalued forever because your results are what other people think is your value. (15:31) Like we're going to have a big payday soon, you and me, like almost a hundred grand.
(15:36) And that's a really big deal for podcasters. (15:41) But I'm not going to, that's not going to change my perception of myself at all. (15:45) I'm not going to be like, Oh my God, now I've made it or anything like that.
(15:48) I'm already there in my consciousness. (15:50) And so for the listeners, wouldn't you rather have a personal development and growth plan that keeps you ahead of the curve where you never feel like an imposter? (15:59) Like dude, if I went to Evans, I don't feel like I wouldn't feel like an imposter at all.
Kevin Palmieri
(16:03) But do you feel, so we, we, the conversation we had before this was there's a ceiling to both of these. (16:09) Yeah. (16:10) What's the ceiling on, on my end, the ceiling is you can only get a certain level of results before you max out and then freak out.
Alan Lazaros
(16:18) Assuming you're in integrity. (16:20) Yes.
Kevin Palmieri
(16:20) Yeah.
Alan Lazaros
(16:21) If you were willing to perception status lies, steal, cheat, then you can get what you want apparently.
Kevin Palmieri
(16:26) Yes. (16:26) But yeah, so I think there's a lot of, it gets to a point where you get super overwhelmed and then you're like, what's, what is happening? (16:31) I don't know if I can keep up.
(16:33) And then you learn something new and you, then you push yourself to the next level and then you can handle more next level results.
Alan Lazaros
(16:38) I think you tend to, you tend to like get to the next level, then learn how to stay. (16:43) I would say that's fair. (16:44) And then try to get to the next level and then learn how to stay.
(16:48) Mine is prepare myself for the next 10 levels in advance so that they're, um, easier. (16:56) Not easy.
Kevin Palmieri
(16:57) What's the ceiling? (16:58) What's the ceiling to you?
Alan Lazaros
(16:59) Yeah. (16:59) So the bottleneck on your end is always being reactive. (17:03) The bottleneck on my end is you can, you can get caught, uh, share this very briefly.
(17:10) I had a past listener of our podcast who was tracking 42 habits and you know, he was doing the whole cold plunge and the, all that stuff. (17:18) It's like, dude, you need to go and actually do real work. (17:22) Like you're overdoing the whole thing.
(17:24) Like you don't need to, I journal and I meditate and I cold plunge and I blah, blah, blah. (17:30) And it's like, dude, you're not successful. (17:32) You need to like, you can overdo it.
(17:34) You can overdo it at the expense of real work. (17:36) It's called productive avoidance. (17:38) Like if I'm journaling instead of prospecting, I better be aware that I'm not trying to escape prospecting.
(17:47) And I better have a bunch of clients already. (17:49) I mean, this person had no money and was like struggling paycheck to paycheck and they were still cold plunging and journaling. (17:57) Like if you, if you don't know where your next check is coming, you need to get out of the fucking tub and go figure it out.
(18:03) Like, and that's a superpower you have is you'd run circles around this guy. (18:07) You did. (18:08) And you do.
(18:09) Um, and he falls for what I call like productive avoidance. (18:13) You're just a coward and you don't want to face the hard truth. (18:16) And so you're like, I think that a lot of people use personal development and personal growth as a crutch for cowardice.
(18:24) I have to call myself out for that sometimes too.
Kevin Palmieri
(18:27) I think that's super accurate because it feels really good to do it.
Alan Lazaros
(18:30) And you can say like, I'm super, and it feels like you're being productive when you're actually avoiding doing real hard work and rejection and failure and pain.
Kevin Palmieri
(18:38) Yeah, that's a good point. (18:39) There is. (18:40) Yeah.
(18:40) It's like, yeah, you are really leaning into your personal development, but you're not leaving. (18:45) There's a difference between personal development and life results. (18:47) It's two very different things.
(18:48) That's why I think cold plunges are dumb as shit.
Alan Lazaros
(18:50) Well, are you doing personal development to go achieve your goals or are you doing personal development to avoid pain and failure as like a sort of a crutch?
Kevin Palmieri
(19:00) Yeah, exactly. (19:01) Nice. (19:02) And the reason I say that, the reason I say like the whole cold plunge thing, because what happens is the sexy habits or the habits that get adopted, that's not helping you grow your business.
(19:10) And that's not why those people are successful. (19:12) No, no. (19:13) Maybe it helps.
(19:13) It helps with discipline. (19:14) It helps with doing the thing that you don't want to do. (19:17) For sure.
(19:17) I'm not saying that, but there's other ways to do it. (19:19) I think I will have a cold plunge at some point.
Alan Lazaros
(19:21) Genuinely.
Kevin Palmieri
(19:21) Just faster.
Alan Lazaros
(19:23) I'm sure I probably will too, but I'm going to be because, and I'm not going to say this is why I'm successful. (19:27) Right, right. (19:28) Yeah.
(19:28) I'm going to say I'm successful because of massive pain and failure. (19:31) And struggling for decades.
Kevin Palmieri
(19:33) I think I'd probably be too big of a hypocrite. (19:34) I think I'm jumping the cold plunge to avoid my failures. (19:37) I've gone too far, Alan.
(19:38) I can't have a cold plunge. (19:39) I'd talk too much shit about cold plunges. (19:40) I would be a fucking hypocrite if I had content of me hopping in one.
Alan Lazaros
(19:44) You're going to have a hot plunge.
Kevin Palmieri
(19:45) I will have my sauna, for sure. (19:47) All right. (19:47) What's your takeaway before we get out of here?
(19:50) My takeaway would be, to the point of the conversation, there's ceilings and bottlenecks on both of these. (19:56) You've got to figure out which end you're on. (19:57) I know what end I'm on.
(19:59) I mean, this is a cycle. (20:00) I catch it quicker, for sure, and the overwhelm is less and more quickly defined.
Alan Lazaros
(20:06) But this is still my pattern. (20:08) You have a tendency to be on one end or the other. (20:10) I tend to be personal development over goals.
(20:16) Kevin tends to be goals over personal development. (20:19) Both have bottlenecks. (20:21) Figure out which one you are, and then work against it.
(20:24) I have to make sure, because I love streaks. (20:27) I have a journaling streak, and I have a pliability streak, and I have an exercise streak. (20:31) But you've got to run the fucking company as well.
(20:34) Imagine if I'm out exercising, and the company's burning down. (20:39) You better figure it out, and you better figure it out quick. (20:42) You have to make sure your priorities.
(20:44) Personal development is great if it's for success, but if it's personal development just to feel good, it's the opposite. (20:53) Personal development shouldn't be just to feel good. (20:55) As a matter of fact, if you do personal development and it does feel good, you're probably not doing it right.
Kevin Palmieri
(21:03) Yeah, that's it. (21:03) Maybe we'll do an episode on that at some point. (21:06) I feel like we could have a healthy debate about that.
(21:07) I also mostly agree though. (21:11) We used to do breath work in the studio until we were crying. (21:14) It felt great after, but it didn't feel good during.
Alan Lazaros
(21:18) Agreed.
Kevin Palmieri
(21:19) Necessarily. (21:20) So we'll do that. (21:21) As soon as it started feeling good, we stopped doing it.
(21:24) Because I felt like we were past that. (21:26) I think I stopped because I didn't want to do it anyway. (21:29) I didn't really enjoy it.
(21:31) So I just stopped.
Alan Lazaros
(21:32) I felt like I needed to stop for a time. (21:33) I felt like that was actually real work. (21:35) Breath work.
Kevin Palmieri
(21:36) And then eventually it was just breathing. (21:39) I could definitely, I'm sure I could go for, I haven't had a good cry in a minute. (21:43) I could have a good cry with some breath work.
(21:45) For sure. (21:45) I think that's important for me. (21:46) For sure.
(21:48) For sure. (21:48) All right. (21:48) If one of the things that is important for you is your fitness game and getting to the next level in your fitness game, we have the Next Level Fitness Accountability Group.
(21:54) You've heard us talk about it a million times. (21:56) We're going to keep talking about it over and over again because it's a free group that is designed for fitness accountability. (22:04) Totally free.
(22:04) We don't sell anything in there. (22:05) It doesn't cost any money to get in there. (22:07) You don't have to give us your freaking emails.
(22:08) It's a WhatsApp group. (22:09) Reach out. (22:10) We'll let you in and you can post about your fitness journey and be inspired and motivated and supported by all the other people doing the same thing.
Alan Lazaros
(22:17) And if you want to do more of the work that doesn't feel good and you care more about getting better than feeling good, one of my clients told me that there was a coaching session last week that was like one of the hardest things she's ever done. (22:32) And not two days later, she was messaging me thanking me because she got a new result she's never had before. (22:36) And I know you're listening, by the way.
(22:38) So yeah, I mean, if you care about results in real life more than feeling good every day, hire me. (22:47) I got you. (22:48) Boom.
(22:48) All right. (22:49) Cool.
Kevin Palmieri
(22:49) As always, we love you. (22:50) We appreciate you. (22:51) Grateful for each and every one of you.
(22:53) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single day to help you get there. (22:59) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential.
Alan Lazaros
(23:01) Next Level Nation.
Kevin Palmieri
(23:03) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (23:07) We love connecting with the Next Level family.
Alan Lazaros
(23:09) We mean it when we say family. (23:12) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (23:15) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.
(23:18) Thank you again.
Kevin Palmieri
(23:19) And we will talk to you tomorrow.