What’s The Disconnect Between Potential And Accomplishment? (2415)

In today’s episode of Next Level University, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros explore why potential is not reached through motivation alone. It is developed through belief, self-awareness, identity, and the repeated decision to choose growth before the outcome is guaranteed. Drawing from their experiences in coaching, speaking, fitness, and daily personal development, they examine why people often confuse their current circumstances with their true capacity.

This episode challenges the common idea that potential is fixed. It shows how standards, decisions, and long-term consistency shape what is possible over time. Listen before comfort convinces you that your ceiling is lower than it really is.

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Show notes:
(2:05) Choosing potential over mediocrity
(6:31) Potential as a future capacity
(8:58) Why the goal has to feel worth it
(11:17) Mistaking your current identity for your ceiling
(13:18) Starting before you feel competent
(17:08) Deciding in advance to reach more
(19:41) Outro

🎙️ Hosted by Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) One of the issues I have with motivation and the motivational speeches and the get your ass up and you don't need sleep and blah blah blah blah blah is many of those people I think had a different level of potential than maybe the people that they're talking to. (0:15) Now, I don't want to use that as an excuse. (0:16) I don't want that to be a reason that you don't go do the thing but we all have a different potential.(0:21) The question is not how successful can you be. (0:25) I think that the question is how much of your potential can you actually reach.

Alan Lazaros

(0:28) My favorite word in the entire world hands down bar none is potential. (0:33) Someone asked me what my purpose is yesterday on a podcast and I said to reach my own unique potential and help others do the same. (0:41) We're going to talk about potential, what that means, how to do it, what not to do, what to do.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:47) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:49) I'm your host Kevin Palmieri. (0:51) And I'm your co-host Alan Lazarus.(0:54) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

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Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

(1:35) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2415. (1:39) What's the disconnect between potential and accomplishment? (1:43) So Alan came in the room and said why don't people actually achieve their potential.(1:50) The bird outside my window is chirping this episode. (1:52) Yeah well they are they are achieving their potential right now. (1:54) You know it.(1:55) They are achieving their potential. (1:57) This is definitely gonna be a part one and a part two because I feel like this is a complicated thing and I think belief is a piece of it. (2:05) I'll start with you because you know where I'm gonna go.(2:07) I think belief is the biggest thing. (2:08) If you do not believe you have potential you will never try to exceed your current circumstances to achieve said potential and even if you think your potential is greater than you're currently showing you still have to believe it's possible to get there. (2:23) So that's my first start.

Alan Lazaros

(2:26) Emilia and I talked about a decision tree. (2:30) From the moment you're born to whatever age you are now you made a series of choices. (2:36) Yes or no choices.(2:38) And one side of this tree is your full potential and another one is we're just going to call it mediocrity or average ordinary. (2:53) Sometimes saying no is the road to your potential. (2:58) Sometimes saying yes is the road to your potential.(3:00) So the more times you choose potential over mediocrity the more likely you manifest your potential. (3:08) One of the reasons why I get so frustrated with you when you say like yeah but you're different is because okay and I chose the harder road more times so you don't know what was innate potential and what was like my choice. (3:24) So when I was on my run last night I sent a little video in the fitness group about this.(3:29) I could choose to go the easier road. (3:33) When you're on a run and you're exhausted it's harder to choose the uphill. (3:39) I can't not.(3:43) I can't not. (3:44) Because I said this in the video. (3:46) I said I have to choose the road that's going to make me stronger.(3:49) Now I made this clear. (3:50) Sometimes sleeping in will make you stronger.

Kevin Palmieri

(3:52) But what comes first the desire to make it hard or the knowledge that your potential like you have the potential to do it?

Alan Lazaros

(4:02) I know. (4:03) I don't know. (4:04) I don't know.

Kevin Palmieri

(4:05) The chicken or the egg.

Alan Lazaros

(4:06) But it's not it's not that that's uh oversimplified. (4:13) Because you start out as a little baby and you don't really know what your potential is at all. (4:20) You don't have any knowledge of anything.(4:22) Yourself, others, the world. (4:23) You don't know anything. (4:24) You don't know anything.(4:25) And you are born with a certain potential. (4:27) And then you go into life and it's like okay well maybe I can crawl. (4:32) All right this is I got this figured now I think I could probably fucking walk.(4:36) And then you try and and obviously that's not how babies talk to themselves. (4:41) But okay something as simple as my mom told me that I would like always run off. (4:48) Apparently I went into some neighbor's garage when I was like two and I was playing with the tools or something.(4:53) And it was like not a good look. (4:56) Because I could have very easily been killed. (4:59) But I was always very like my mom said the knife cabinets like everything you always were trying to like go to the highest spot.(5:08) You were always running away all the time like so adventurous. (5:12) As a kid I was very reckless. (5:14) Very reckless.(5:16) Very adventurous. (5:17) Very explorative. (5:18) Okay but I think so I do think that some of that's part of my nature.(5:23) Of course it is. (5:24) Absolutely. (5:25) There's something called um I don't know it's not risk but it's risk yeah risk tolerance.(5:31) Then there's like conscientiousness. (5:32) Then there's agreeableness. (5:35) There's all these psychometric personality tests that talk about.(5:38) Some people are very agreeable. (5:40) You're very agreeable. (5:41) You don't like to disagree with people.(5:42) But you do if you need to. (5:44) I'm much less agreeable than you. (5:46) Unless I'm being really cowardly.(5:48) But like I'll argue with people more than you will. (5:50) Right so so Taryn's very agreeable. (5:52) She's very high agreeableness.(5:54) She does not like to uh rock disagree with rock the boat. (5:57) Yeah so and then there's people that are super disagreeable that nobody likes. (6:02) Right and and so we all have a certain innate ability.(6:05) However you can choose. (6:11) Like you have a choice in like you shouldn't be a runner but you could be. (6:16) Huh?(6:17) You fucking could be. (6:18) It would be a dumb decision because statistically you're on the bottom end of that bell curve as a shorter man. (6:25) You're never going to be at the top of that game no matter what you do.(6:28) But you can and I talked about you this with you earlier. (6:31) The reason I thought about this episode is I was running last night. (6:34) I was like you know both Kevin and I both could we both have the potential to do a six-minute mile.(6:41) But we have to choose in advance whether or not we want that. (6:45) Because not anyone but almost anyone. (6:49) I would say 80% of the population if given enough time and training could do a six-minute mile.(6:55) It's like a possibility. (6:56) It's a potentiality. (6:57) It's a it's it's doable.(7:00) But no one can do it right now. (7:02) Isn't that that's the thing. (7:04) I think that's what I want to talk about.(7:08) Let's do a five-minute mile for you and me just to make the point land. (7:11) Because I think I might actually be able to do a six. (7:13) I'd be dead at the end but I might be able to do it.(7:15) You and I both could. (7:17) We have the potential to do a five and a half minute mile. (7:21) Five and a half.(7:22) Okay. (7:22) If you took the next decade and trained just let me for a minute. (7:25) Okay.(7:27) The potential is there. (7:29) It's a potential. (7:30) It's a it's a future potentiality.(7:32) But dude what you'd have to do. (7:34) You'd have to decide in advance that you want to go for that specifically. (7:38) You'd have to dedicate your entire life to it for an extended period of time.(7:43) Certainly longer than me because of my giraffe legs. (7:47) And but isn't that what life is? (7:49) You make conscious choices.(7:53) And that's why it comes back to belief. (7:54) If you didn't believe you could you'd never choose that. (7:57) And I think that that's what I want to land for our listeners.(7:59) Like if you don't believe it's a possibility. (8:03) You're never going to choose in advance to do it. (8:06) Even though it is actually a possibility.(8:08) And I think that's what I do in coaching. (8:09) I think I study someone. (8:12) And they tell me about their life.(8:14) And they tell me who they are. (8:15) And I study I always ask like all these questions. (8:17) Like how old are you?(8:18) When were you born? (8:19) Where were you born? (8:20) And I realize all I'm doing is gathering data so that I can calculate their potential.(8:26) Like I have one client who's like I said do you believe you can be a millionaire? (8:30) And she said no. (8:30) And I said I'm certain you could.(8:33) I'm mathematically certain. (8:35) You're already gonna be based on your if you keep it with it. (8:37) Like mathematically.(8:38) I'm right. (8:39) You're wrong. (8:39) With love.(8:40) I'm more accurate. (8:42) Now if she but without me she would never do it. (8:45) Because she didn't believe you she could.(8:47) So to me that is like so sad. (8:51) Because if you don't believe you can do it you're never gonna do it. (8:54) Which then means you're proving yourself right or wrong.(8:57) That's right.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:58) I think belief is. (8:59) The other hard part is if you don't believe you can do it you're never gonna connect it would be worth it. (9:05) Because if you don't believe it's not it would be highly illogical to imagine something that you don't believe you can do would be worth the journey.(9:15) Unless you're so enlightened that you understand the journey is the point anyway. (9:18) But with this it's not. (9:20) Kind of.(9:21) I want to run a let's say I want to run a 530. (9:24) If I run a 545 I'm not gonna say well that was a really good journey. (9:28) Fuck no.(9:29) I want the goal. (9:30) I want the goal. (9:31) I just dedicated my entire existence to doing this and I didn't do it.(9:36) I'm telling you it wasn't worth it.

Alan Lazaros

(9:38) And there would be byproducts though and I know you say it's not worth it. (9:41) The byproducts would be better cardiovascular health better longevity better sex life probably better right. (9:47) So there are things that would be a byproduct that would benefit you.(9:50) But come on. (9:52) Is that the one thing that you're gonna dedicate your existence to? (9:56) No.(9:56) This is the other piece that bothers me about coaching is everything everyone wants is a byproduct.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:02) Isn't it a tragedy that most people will never actually know their full potential because the first five years. (10:09) I'm starting to see a trend. (10:11) 10 years.(10:13) But when we so Next Level Live I did a breakdown of Olivia Dean's career. (10:18) She won the best new artist in 2026 at the Grammy. (10:21) She's been doing music for like I don't know she's 28.(10:24) She's been doing it since she was eight. (10:25) Okay best new artist. (10:25) 20 years.(10:27) But there were like 10 year increments. (10:30) Yeah. (10:30) And then I was listening to I don't know what it was some motivational YouTube in the gym today because 4 a.m. Legs is not it. (10:37) That is not it. (10:39) And it was somebody said. (10:41) Quadzilla up in there man.(10:42) Strong words. (10:42) I appreciate it. (10:43) I don't feel good at all about my legs.(10:46) It's like my legs are. (10:47) Big legs. (10:48) Well it's they're not what they used to be.(10:50) Somebody said I've been doing this for 10 years. (10:52) It took me 10 years. (10:53) We've been doing this for coming up on it's gonna be 10 years.(10:57) March. (10:57) There's something about 10 years. (11:02) I didn't think I had potential at this.(11:05) It crossed the chasm. (11:06) I told you I told you this. (11:08) I was at a client's headquarters yesterday and now I'm the content guy.(11:13) I do this. (11:13) I record the videos for their social media. (11:15) I'm doing long form.

Alan Lazaros

(11:16) Nice.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:17) And I had a breakthrough of I think the reason most of us don't ever get to accomplish our full potential is because we convince ourselves the person that we are today is the person we're supposed to be. (11:27) Are you wearing the shirt? (11:28) Yes.(11:29) Nice. (11:29) I'm on brand. (11:30) I got a sweatshirt.(11:31) I got everything baby. (11:32) I'm getting a bit. (11:33) I'm getting a business card.(11:34) I'm getting a business credit card soon. (11:35) It's freaking weird. (11:37) But it's so easy to say like well last year I wasn't a speaker.(11:42) You know I wasn't a speaker last year so I don't I can't imagine I'm gonna be a speaker this year because I think we think we go from not being a speaker to being a speaker from a competent standpoint when in reality it's probably from an experienced standpoint. (11:55) But when did you decide to be a speaker? (11:57) Never.(11:57) You decided that.

Alan Lazaros

(11:58) No no.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:58) You kind of decided that. (12:00) I made brother. (12:01) I didn't.(12:03) I'm telling you. (12:04) I didn't. (12:04) I never decided that.(12:06) I didn't want to fucking speak. (12:09) I still get scared. (12:10) I mean that doesn't mean I don't want to do it.(12:12) I don't think I did. (12:13) I don't think I ever decided. (12:15) Oh yeah.(12:15) I'm gonna be a speaker. (12:16) When.

Alan Lazaros

(12:19) All right. (12:21) Remember when you told me it sounds arrogant to say what you're gonna do but it doesn't talk it's not arrogant to say what you already did. (12:26) Yes.(12:26) I could not disagree more but I understand now. (12:29) I understand now. (12:29) Yep.(12:30) You know I got straight A's in high school. (12:32) That's not arrogant. (12:33) No.(12:35) No.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:36) Why? (12:36) Because you did it? (12:37) Yeah because they're yeah you can show show me the trophy.(12:40) Yeah show me the trophies. (12:42) But don't tell me about the trophies you're gonna get that haven't you haven't gotten yet. (12:45) But but that's how you get them.(12:49) I decided. (12:50) Well I I think it's less or I'm saying statistically most people I think would think it's arrogant. (12:55) I don't anymore.(12:56) Okay fair. (12:57) Yeah yeah. (12:58) I decided.

Alan Lazaros

(13:02) Like I decided to be a speaker. (13:05) For sure.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:06) And if I didn't make that decision you fucking wouldn't have. (13:09) So that's what I'm saying that's so that's what I'm saying I didn't decide it was just like I was on the train when the train was headed that way. (13:14) How do you get someone to decide in advance to do something that they don't believe they can do?(13:18) You get them I'm telling you you get them to dip their toe and just experience it and you don't even try to convince them they can get good at it. (13:25) Because I think it puts too much pressure on because in the beginning you are not going to be good at almost anything.

Alan Lazaros

(13:32) At almost anything. (13:34) Compared statistically like compared to people in the industry in this space.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:37) Compared to people yeah or compared to what you want to feel. (13:42) I for a lot of I think for a lot of us competence and talent is a feeling. (13:47) I've gotten great reviews of like oh that was a really good speech or what and I get off and I feel like shit about it I don't care what you say I care what I feel not what I hear.

Alan Lazaros

(13:57) But but what matters is objective truth like I've uh. (14:01) When I get off an episode that I I often feel like it's not it's garbage. (14:05) But I also know I know that it's not.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:09) Yeah but if if 100 people came to you and said it's the best episode I've ever heard you wouldn't agree if you didn't think it was. (14:15) No I would just know my standards are higher.

Alan Lazaros

(14:17) Same I think that's that's but. (14:19) But when you say the feeling thing it's just like the logic episode we did. (14:24) Like I don't I trust logic over feeling for sure.(14:26) Yeah but how do you logic.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:29) It's very hard to logic a performance. (14:32) Yeah. (14:33) In the beginning I think our standards for starting something are just too high.(14:37) So we when we start something it's like oh that should have gone way better. (14:41) It's like well you've never done this before. (14:44) So what are you comparing it to.(14:46) So you're not going in presupposing you're going to suck. (14:49) I do. (14:50) I presuppose I'm going to suck at everything now.(14:53) Do you think that. (14:56) Yeah I think I.

Alan Lazaros

(14:57) You think you have to feel like you're good at it to keep doing it.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:00) Yeah there's like a sweet spot. (15:01) You can't think you're going to be the worst ever of all time and it's not worth doing. (15:05) Yeah that's fair.(15:06) But you also can't go in thinking you're going to crush it because you're not. (15:10) And then if you. (15:11) That's how I start.

Alan Lazaros

(15:12) I know.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:13) But you have the belief to just dust off the dirt and do it again. (15:17) You know like. (15:19) The level of L you can take on something is directly connected to the level of self-belief you have or how delusional you are about yourself.(15:26) But the level of self-belief you have is also connected to how many L's you can take.

Alan Lazaros

(15:30) I know but it's the chicken or the egg. (15:32) Piss me right off. (15:33) It's the chicken or the egg.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:34) So so annoying.

Alan Lazaros

(15:35) So annoying. (15:35) Because okay back to the the children thing. (15:38) Because this is a good metaphor for life.(15:40) Because we're all like adult children right. (15:42) Makes sense. (15:42) Okay we're all kids at once.(15:43) At one point. (15:45) You have so much potential when you're a kid. (15:49) Because you could make so many good choices.(15:52) Like if your potential is on the right. (15:54) And your fucking mediocrity is on the left. (15:56) You can go right.(15:59) Ah I went left. (16:00) Ooh regret. (16:03) You can.(16:03) And I think the thing that bothered me about you saying like yeah but you're different. (16:07) Is no but motherfucker. (16:09) I took a right way more than you.(16:11) Way earlier than you. (16:13) And you don't know that. (16:14) Yeah but what if you knew you were supposed to before I did.(16:16) Ah fuck off.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:17) Well I know. (16:18) But seriously though. (16:20) Seriously.(16:21) Dude you think my mom ever sat me down and said you could be a farmer or a CEO. (16:24) But no fuck no. (16:25) I never got that.(16:27) I didn't get any of that. (16:29) You know what I mean. (16:31) Yeah that's fair.(16:33) So like I'm not saying. (16:35) Yeah yeah. (16:35) I think you just you were way more intentional way earlier than I was.(16:39) I don't know where it came from necessarily. (16:40) I'm not.

Alan Lazaros

(16:41) I don't want to tell me that.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:42) You can be a CEO. (16:43) You can be a farmer. (16:44) But here's the thing.(16:45) She's probably said that to my sister too. (16:47) I just was like yeah fuck yeah I can.

Alan Lazaros

(16:49) Yeah yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:50) And she she my mom could have probably said the same thing to me. (16:53) And I am not saying anything. (16:54) Anything would have happened with it.(16:56) Damn. (16:56) That's why it's so Jeffed. (16:58) Damn.

Alan Lazaros

(17:00) To be continued part two. (17:02) Yeah we're definitely. (17:03) Because it's.(17:03) I gotta jump to book club. (17:04) But the potential thing. (17:08) Everyone out there watching or listening.(17:09) You have more potential than you're currently demonstrating. (17:12) Of course. (17:14) There is no one who's maxed out.(17:15) Not a chance. (17:18) Are you deciding in advance to reach it though? (17:20) A goal.(17:23) Is on the other side of deciding in advance to do whatever it takes to get the goal. (17:28) But even if you don't know how to yet.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:30) How do you know what your potential is? (17:31) How do you know how to maximize your potential if you don't know what your potential is? (17:34) It's like a goal that you don't know where the finish line is.(17:36) It's like just.

Alan Lazaros

(17:37) Yeah but each decision you do know. (17:38) You kind of know. (17:39) I should go uphill right now.(17:41) I should go uphill. (17:41) But you know you're moving in the right direction. (17:42) Yeah.(17:44) Don't you know when you're being lazy? (17:47) When you're letting it ride you know. (17:49) You can't let it ride that long.(17:51) I knew less in the past than I do now. (17:54) Yeah fair. (17:55) So that pole thing.(17:57) For me I can tell when I'm being a lazy fuck. (18:00) I can just tell. (18:01) It's like Alan come on.(18:03) Come on. (18:04) You're better than this. (18:05) Do you not have that?(18:06) No I have that. (18:07) Okay. (18:08) Yeah.(18:08) Everyone has that.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:09) It was very very quiet earlier on in life. (18:12) Whoa. (18:14) Because that's what I wanted.

Alan Lazaros

(18:15) I think that's your potential saying hey Kev. (18:16) What the fuck are we doing? (18:18) You know you could be better than this.(18:19) And you should be. (18:21) There was very little of that.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:22) Really? (18:23) Yeah yeah there wasn't a lot.

Alan Lazaros

(18:23) I've had that in my head my whole life.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:26) That's what I'm saying.

Alan Lazaros

(18:27) I have that every second of every day.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:28) You are different and. (18:29) I don't know where it comes from or how it got here or whatever.

Alan Lazaros

(18:32) I think everyone has that but maybe it's quieter than. (18:34) It's definitely not as aggressive as mine is. (18:36) No no.(18:37) Mine is like you fat fuck go up that fucking hill right now. (18:42) You know you can do it. (18:44) Like I'm being playful but also.(18:50) And my inner critic is very hard on me by design. (18:55) I think I think that's a good thing. (18:56) I think that's what a warrior is.(18:59) You know it's someone. (19:00) I think it's good for you. (19:00) I need to be harder on me than anyone else is on me.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:02) Yeah I think it's good for you.

Alan Lazaros

(19:03) If I let you coach me. (19:05) You'd be like nah man it's okay. (19:06) You don't have to work every day.(19:07) I'd be like fuck you I don't.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:10) Of course I do. (19:11) It depends on what it is. (19:12) I constantly am calling you out for fitness stuff.

Alan Lazaros

(19:14) I know. (19:14) I'll never let you off the hook. (19:15) That's stopped based on some of my standards raising.(19:18) I know it's not gone but yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:20) I you know I want to see some heavy squats or something. (19:23) You know anything. (19:24) Any sort of heavy presses or whatever.

Alan Lazaros

(19:26) We're gonna take the tarp off man.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:28) Yeah you get dumped the tarp off. (19:30) All right if you're looking for a coach who can help you figure out what your potential is. (19:33) And how to discern the difference between all the things we talked about today.(19:36) Reach out to Alan. (19:36) If you're looking for a group of amazing people focused on getting to their potential. (19:40) Next Level Nation our private Facebook group.(19:42) As always we love you. (19:43) We appreciate you. (19:44) Grateful for each and every one of you.(19:45) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level. (19:47) Make sure you tune in tomorrow. (19:48) Because we will be here every single freaking day to help you get there.

Alan Lazaros

(19:51) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (19:54) Next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:56) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (19:59) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(20:02) We mean it when we say family. (20:04) If you ever need anything please reach out to us directly. (20:07) Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:11) Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.