Goals Are Just Values In The Future (2429)

What if the goals you are chasing are not actually yours?

In today’s episode, Kevin and Alan break down why real goals start with self-awareness, core values, and honest decision-making. They talk through cost-value analysis, identity, ambition, and the hidden risk of building a life around something that looks impressive but feels empty.

Through coaching experience, personal stories, and patterns they have seen across thousands of episodes, they challenge the idea that ambition alone leads to fulfillment. This episode is about getting clear on what you truly value before you spend years succeeding in the wrong direction. Press play before you get good at chasing the wrong future.

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Show notes:
(2:37) Making decisions through core values
(4:20) Understanding cost-value analysis
(5:56) Why honest self-awareness matters
(8:50) Knowing yourself before choosing goals
(13:43) The success set point framework
(17:02) Aligned goals versus empty achievement
(19:00) When goals pull you off course
(22:14) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) In today's episode, we might take something that is relatively simple and find a way to complicate it, but I promise, I promise, I promise, I promise, if you hang on through the complication process, it will get simpler in the end, and it will be even more simple and more powerful than it was at the beginning.

Alan Lazaros

(0:16) Back in college, I did something called a cost value analysis, where you have all these different categories, and then you rate them from zero to 10, and then they have different weights, one is weighted more than the other. (0:28) Cost value analysis is how human beings make decisions. (0:31) The problem is we aren't doing it as thoroughly as if we were in a spreadsheet.(0:36) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:39) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:40) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazaros. (0:43) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:50) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:56) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(1:12) Self-improvement, in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:19) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:24) Next Level Nation. (1:25) Today, for episode number 2,429, goals are just values in the future. (1:31) That is a quotation from one Alan Lazarus.(1:35) And I think about it. (1:35) I think one of the reasons so many people are, you'll meet someone, you'll say, hey, what do you want your life to look like in the future? (1:43) And so many people will say, financial freedom.(1:45) I want to be financially free. (1:47) And that goal is based on a value of being able to do whatever you want, with whoever you want, and whatever that means. (1:53) Whether that's golf, seven times a week.(1:58) Whether that's family, seven times a week. (2:01) Whether that's, I don't know, cocaine in Las Vegas, seven times a week. (2:05) Maybe that's something you value.(2:06) I don't know. (2:07) Some wild folks out there. (2:09) That is my kickoff to today's episode.(2:12) What do you think about that? (2:14) Nothing. (2:16) Nothing.(2:16) You can't tell me there aren't some people out there that want to just go to Las Vegas, gamble, and just do drugs. (2:23) No, of course there are. (2:25) Right?

Alan Lazaros

(2:25) Yeah, there are.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:27) I don't think it's fulfilling.

Alan Lazaros

(2:28) I don't think it's the play. (2:31) It's not the play. (2:32) That I'm certain of.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:32) Probably not listening to this podcast, I would have to assume.

Alan Lazaros

(2:37) Probably not. (2:39) So this came up because I have a client who is contemplating her future, and whether or not she wants to continue living in the state she currently lives in. (2:54) The state.(2:58) And she was contemplating what's keeping her here. (3:02) And I said something along the lines of, you got to check in with your core values. (3:09) And the other thing about this that's so difficult is everything that you make a decision on is based on probabilities.(3:16) It's not based on fact. (3:21) Because this is going to land better, I'm going to tell you who this is, and she doesn't care. (3:26) All right.(3:26) So Bianca and Emilia, they podcast together. (3:29) They have the Evolve Ventures podcast. (3:32) And Bianca has lived and born and raised in Massachusetts.(3:37) And you and I and Emilia have talked about having an in-person studio again in the future. (3:43) So that would be a really, really big W, not only for our companies, but for all of us. (3:52) And Bianca wants to be a part of that, naturally.(3:55) And the reason why I'm bringing this up is because every one of us, every listener, me, Kev, everyone, has to make current decisions based on probabilities. (4:06) In a year from now, I could be like, yeah, so Bianca, I totally decided not to do that. (4:13) We're sorry.(4:14) And you just wasted a year that you could have been down in warmer weather, right? (4:20) So everything you do and don't do is predicated on this cost value analysis. (4:27) And I'm an engineer.(4:29) I'm going to say this as a disclaimer. (4:30) When I was in college, there was two women that I wanted to be with, and I needed to understand which one I wanted to be with more. (4:37) And I actually, I had a bunch of engineering friends, and me and my engineering buddies sat down and did a cost value analysis.(4:43) And we had intelligence, looks, everything, athleticism, all this stuff. (4:48) And I had different weights to each category. (4:51) Intelligence was a 10 for me.(4:53) If you're not intelligent, I'm going to have a really fucking hard time being with you. (4:56) And so at the end, I ended up surprised, like, oh, this other girl came out on top. (5:02) I thought it was going to be close.(5:03) It wasn't even close at the end of this cost value analysis. (5:06) Yes, I put it in a spreadsheet. (5:07) Yes, it is what it is.(5:08) At the time, I was like, if anyone saw the spreadsheet, they would probably call me a prick. (5:12) The truth is, I want to make decisions based on what I value. (5:16) You don't just marry anyone.(5:18) The hell are we doing here? (5:19) Right? (5:20) So, and if I put Amelia in the spreadsheet, she would have blown both of them out of the water.(5:25) It wouldn't even have been close. (5:26) So, to each their own. (5:27) My point is, all of us have to make decisions based on our core values, and goals are predicated on our understanding of what our values will increase or decrease in the future.(5:40) And so older people will always say, well, you'll change. (5:43) You work so hard now, but when you're 50, you won't work as hard. (5:45) Bullshit.(5:46) You don't know me. (5:47) You think you do. (5:48) I'll work harder.(5:49) But they don't know, right? (5:51) They probably work less than they did in their 20s. (5:53) They probably assume I'm just some ambitious youngster.(5:56) And the truth of the matter is, only you know you. (5:58) And so my favorite people to coach are the people that are the most honest with themselves, because when I tell them the hard shit they don't want to hear, they already know. (6:04) It's the best.(6:05) The people that are hard to coach are the people that lie to themselves constantly. (6:11) The people who tell themselves a story about them, like, yeah, no, I'm into fitness. (6:14) I mean, yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't work out, but I'm like into fitness.(6:18) I'm into it. (6:18) And it's like, great. (6:20) Here we go.(6:22) How often do you exercise? (6:26) That's the first tell. (6:29) Uh, okay.(6:30) So, so what kind of exercise do you do? (6:33) Well, I, you know, I used to do yoga. (6:35) It's like, okay, so you're not into fitness, but they haven't admitted it yet.(6:39) So now I'm the asshole, right? (6:41) Luckily I'm a coach. (6:42) So they deal with it.(6:42) But like the point that I'm making here, you have to be honest with yourself about this cost value analysis. (6:50) You have to understand your core values at the deepest level, not what you wish you valued, not what your mom thinks you should value, but what you really value. (6:58) And then you have to project that into the future and predict whether or not that's going to go up or down based on your current decision-making paradigm.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:05) I'll never forget. (7:06) I, I was shortly after I got my sleeve done for those who just listen. (7:12) I have a sleeve on my left arm and, uh, I went and saw a family friend and they were like mad at me.(7:19) They're like, you fucked your body up. (7:21) And I was like, no, it's going to be fine. (7:23) They're like, one day you're going to wake up and regret that.(7:25) It's like, oh yeah, no, I didn't think about that. (7:27) No, actually, this is the first time I'm actually thinking what this is going to lead to. (7:30) You know, some people actually don't.(7:32) Well, of course, of course. (7:34) But it was like...

Alan Lazaros

(7:36) There actually are a lot of people who end up regretting it, but they are projecting assuming you didn't think about that.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:41) Yeah, no, I trust me. (7:42) I thought about it. (7:43) There's a reason I don't have more tattoos because it hasn't, it hasn't come to me what I want.(7:47) I don't just wake up and say, I'm going to go get a tattoo. (7:50) That never happens. (7:50) Some people do.(7:50) Of course. (7:51) Some people genuinely do. (7:53) I would say the vast majority.(7:55) For me, it's like, it has to be something. (7:56) There's something I have. (7:57) I've been sitting on it for five, minimum of five years.(8:00) I've had a picture of something that is like, I might just get my entire back done with that. (8:03) I don't know yet. (8:04) I don't know if it means as much to me now as it used to.(8:07) But I probably always had a goal of being an entrepreneur. (8:12) I just don't know if I knew it. (8:13) I always wanted to work for myself, quote unquote, always.(8:15) I just never knew how to do it. (8:17) And I think so many of the things I did, how I quit every job I ever had without having another job lined up. (8:23) Why?(8:23) Because my core value was being freedom. (8:26) I want to be able to do what I want. (8:28) I want to be able to do what I want.(8:29) And I think there was like a little piece of me that was like, fuck it. (8:31) I don't, I, if I get this tattoo and I can't get a job because of it, whatever, it is what it is. (8:36) It is what it is.(8:37) Like I'll figure out a way. (8:39) And I think I've always wanted to be different. (8:41) And that was one of my core values.(8:42) And I think that the goals of the future of being able to do what I wanted when I wanted were just based on that. (8:48) And an entrepreneurship made sense.

Alan Lazaros

(8:50) I just didn't know that at the time. (8:52) This is based on your, and you said this in the last episode, all of this is predicated on how well you know yourself. (8:59) Self-awareness is everything, baby.(9:01) It's not everything. (9:01) It's one third. (9:02) So much of it though.(9:03) So much of that one third. (9:05) Because yeah, it is. (9:06) If you had to pick one.(9:07) Self-awareness. (9:09) Probably. (9:10) Gotta be.(9:11) It's very hard for me. (9:12) They're all 33%. (9:13) 33.33. I don't think they could.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:16) I mean, what are the odds? (9:17) They're all.

Alan Lazaros

(9:17) Okay. (9:18) You know yourself perfectly, but you don't know anything about human beings and you don't know anything about the world.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:22) If you know, if you know yourself perfectly by default, you got to know something about human beings. (9:27) Not the world. (9:28) I would say.(9:28) No. (9:29) No, actually. (9:30) Fuck that.(9:30) Yes. (9:32) No. (9:32) Yes.(9:32) Because if you know yourself, you already know how the world has affected you. (9:36) Self-awareness. (9:36) No.

Alan Lazaros

(9:38) First of all, we'll do an episode on that. (9:39) That'd be great. (9:39) Let us know what the most important is.(9:41) Kev, think about this for a second real quick. (9:43) I want you to imagine I knew everything about myself. (9:46) How much did that tell me about the world and other people?

Kevin Palmieri

(9:49) In order to know about yourself, you had to know mom, dad, brother, sister. (9:56) Didn't get a lot of time. (9:57) What does that tell me about people?(10:00) That's one. (10:01) No. (10:01) Yes.(10:02) Yeah. (10:02) It's it.

Alan Lazaros

(10:04) No, it isn't. (10:05) It's gotta be. (10:06) Because you don't know shit about homo sapiens.(10:09) You don't have to. (10:11) Yes. (10:11) You know, don't worry about that.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:13) You don't even need to know about that.

Alan Lazaros

(10:15) Yes, you do.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:17) Yes, you do. (10:18) Is that the world? (10:19) You know about the world?(10:20) No, that's others. (10:21) You and I don't know how the pyramids were made. (10:24) We're doing just fine.

Alan Lazaros

(10:26) It's not that bad of a deal. (10:27) That is the dumbest shit I think I've ever heard in my entire life. (10:30) That's going to be the quote that we get known for.(10:33) You and I don't know how the pyramids were built. (10:36) We're doing just fine. (10:37) That's got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever had to choose one.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:40) Had to. (10:41) Can't. (10:42) No, no, but you have to in this that you can't, you can't can't this.(10:45) This is a gun to your head as they say.

Alan Lazaros

(10:49) It definitely wouldn't be others. (10:52) It would probably be the world. (10:53) Now this is, this is a deeper question than I think you realize.(10:56) From an evolutionary perspective, fitness means survival.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:00) The survival of the fittest, excuse me, everybody's strapped in. (11:03) This is a deeper question than I might even realize.

Alan Lazaros

(11:06) Sorry, did that come off condescending and pretentious? (11:08) No, it did. (11:09) That's okay.(11:10) No, no, it probably did. (11:11) I don't know if I care anymore. (11:12) Here's the truth.(11:15) If you understand the world, you understand food, resources, trees, nature, chemistry, biology. (11:25) You, you, you have an advantage. (11:27) You do.(11:27) Is this for pure success?

Kevin Palmieri

(11:30) I wouldn't know. (11:31) This is for survival. (11:32) No, no, yeah, but what was the overarching theme to start?

Alan Lazaros

(11:35) Survival or just surviving and then thriving to get to the next level. (11:41) Uh, this come, this is a whole nother conversation. (11:44) What does that even mean?(11:45) Right? (11:46) We have to break down existentially what human beings are here for. (11:53) You're here to, basically, all of us are trying to gather more resources.(11:56) One time I had an argument with one of my clients. (11:57) I said, why do looks even matter? (12:00) And she's like, well, because you get more attention.(12:02) I said, well, why does that matter? (12:04) And we all, we, why, why, why, why? (12:05) And she's like, oh, I guess it doesn't really matter.(12:07) Yeah. (12:08) I mean, yeah, it's an advantage, but it's not like, oh, I'm suddenly going to be rich and happy now because I'm good looking. (12:15) Like who cares?(12:16) Right? (12:16) It helps, but it's not the whole game. (12:19) And why does it help?(12:20) Because human beings are attracted to attractive people. (12:24) So you get more attention. (12:25) And if you get more attention, you can build more relationships.(12:27) And if you build more relationships, you can, you can succeed more because you have more people in your tribe, more people on your side. (12:33) This is all a breakdown, breakdown, the game of life. (12:36) The point is, what would you pick?(12:37) Self-awareness. (12:37) We already know. (12:39) I can't choose because you need all three.(12:41) If I had to choose, I think I would choose understanding the world. (12:44) If you don't know that these berries kill you, you're going to eat poisonous berries and die. (12:48) I would say for, but I, but you'll be very self-aware of how you make dumb decisions when you eat poisonous berries.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:53) For success, I think the world for fulfillment, I think self-awareness. (12:57) That's fair. (12:58) You need all three.(12:59) I know. (12:59) I know.

Alan Lazaros

(13:00) But if you, if you had to choose one. (13:04) Well, let's do an episode on this at some point. (13:05) Personal development, yourself, social development, others.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:11) I hate these episodes.

Alan Lazaros

(13:12) And professional development.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:13) The others. (13:14) You don't hate these.

Alan Lazaros

(13:15) You hate them because it's going to make you seem like you haven't thought about stuff.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:20) I have. (13:20) Well, first of all, I have issue with that because that is literally the story of my life. (13:24) That's what this entire podcast is built on.

Alan Lazaros

(13:26) First of all, how dare you? (13:27) Why do you hate those episodes?

Kevin Palmieri

(13:30) I don't know. (13:31) I don't know. (13:33) Personal development is the self.(13:35) I like personal development and I like relationship development. (13:39) I don't like professional development.

Alan Lazaros

(13:41) It's probably the- Real quick.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:42) Real quick.

Alan Lazaros

(13:43) I know we're past. (13:44) I know that we're going off the rails a little bit, but trust me, I'll bring it back. (13:47) We'll bring it back.(13:48) I just created Amy Lennie. (13:50) Shout out to you, Amy. (13:51) I know you're listening.(13:52) She asked me for this. (13:54) I actually am doing this with a client tonight where we're going through this success set point. (14:00) So I created something called the success set point.(14:03) You know how you used to say the personal development set point? (14:06) You said that. (14:06) That was your thing.(14:07) Yeah. (14:07) And then you started using it.

Kevin and Alan

(14:08) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(14:09) So there's a success set point, SSS, SSP, and my bad. (14:16) Ready? (14:16) Personal development, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, self-discipline, self-improvement.(14:21) Green, yellow, red. (14:23) Social development, empathy, emotional regulation, relationship building, communication skills, conflict management. (14:28) I think your social development is very high.(14:32) I think your personal development was much lower and I think your professional development was atrocious. (14:38) Goals, metrics, habits, skills, and knowledge. (14:41) So it's yourself, others in the world.(14:43) We all have a green, yellow, red. (14:44) When you and I first met, I was very high in goals, metrics, habits, skills, and knowledge, but didn't know it yet because I didn't have the other two. (14:53) And you were very high in social development.(14:55) That's bullshit.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:56) You were good at relationships.

Alan Lazaros

(14:58) Out of necessity, yeah. (15:00) Especially when I was drunk. (15:01) I'm kidding.(15:02) All right. (15:02) So the point is, is that everyone has a green, yellow, and red, I think. (15:06) And then I went all in on personal development, neglected the other two, and you and I went broke.(15:10) Character over everything, including finance. (15:13) So the point is you need all fucking three and we should do an episode on it. (15:16) We'll do an episode on it.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:18) I still think, I don't know, for fulfillment, I think awareness.

Alan Lazaros

(15:22) But again, of course I think- If I hear you say self-awareness is everything one more time, it's not. (15:25) It's not everything. (15:26) There's other words.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:27) You said knowledge is power for years. (15:30) Just got you around to saying, oh, it's potential. (15:32) It's not power.(15:34) Now it's behavior change is power. (15:36) No, it's not. (15:37) It's fucking potential.(15:37) Jesus. (15:38) Get out of here with this. (15:39) Behavior change actually is power.(15:40) Just take a word and insert it in place of the other one. (15:43) It's still fucking wrong, in my humble opinion.

Alan Lazaros

(15:47) Knowledge is not power. (15:48) Behavior change is. (15:51) And I also still think you need knowledge to change your behavior.(15:54) For sure. (15:55) But that's not sufficient. (15:56) It is required, but not sufficient.(15:58) Your wife is a behavioral analyst. (15:59) She can have all the knowledge, but she still has to know how to change her behavior. (16:02) Of course.(16:02) Right? (16:03) Of course. (16:03) There's a lot of people who know how, but don't.(16:05) There's a lot of people who do that don't know how. (16:07) It's a whole fucking thing. (16:08) I got to stop swearing.(16:09) What was the point of this episode again?

Kevin Palmieri

(16:11) The point of this episode, we got to hop in a minute. (16:13) Because speaking of my wonderful wife, I have dinner plans with my wonderful wife. (16:16) Goals are just values in the future.(16:18) I don't think we talked about it. (16:19) Maybe at all. (16:20) We did a little bit.

Alan Lazaros

(16:22) In the beginning.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:23) I said I strongly started with it and then we just kind of went off the rails.

Alan Lazaros

(16:28) Okay. (16:28) Everyone out there watching or listening, think of a core value. (16:31) What's your number one core value?(16:34) Me?

Kevin Palmieri

(16:36) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(16:36) Probably freedom.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:38) Freedom. (16:39) Yeah. (16:39) Okay.(16:40) Being able to do what you want when you want. (16:41) Which is why you have financial goals. (16:46) I don't know.(16:48) No, I think a piece of my financial goals is based on my traumatic past. (16:53) Honestly. (16:54) But your traumatic past also determined your core values.(16:57) Well, that's fair, but that requires self-awareness to be able to log that in.

Alan Lazaros

(17:02) Okay. (17:02) For the listeners, this is my thesis. (17:06) You and I obviously have not thought about this enough.(17:09) You have not thought about this enough. (17:11) Naturally. (17:11) I believe all goals, if they are aligned goals, are core values in the future.(17:16) They amplify a core value. (17:18) That's why you always say people just know. (17:22) You value fitness, right?(17:24) Definitely. (17:24) That's why you have fitness goals.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:26) Yeah, but how many people chase something for 30 years and end up miserable?

Alan Lazaros

(17:31) That's my point. (17:31) They weren't aligned goals. (17:33) They didn't know themselves.(17:34) Self-awareness.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:35) They thought it was.

Alan Lazaros

(17:36) But they didn't know themselves. (17:38) They didn't go deep enough. (17:40) There are so many people I coach that have goals that are not what they really want.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:45) Well, so then the title of the episode shouldn't be goals or just values in the future. (17:48) It should be goals or just aligned value. (17:50) How do you parse that out?(17:52) Yeah, well, so parse.

Alan Lazaros

(17:55) Whenever I coach someone, I have a new client. (17:57) Shout out to you yesterday. (17:59) And I said, I start out every session with what's your intention.(18:03) Some of my long-term clients are so annoyed by it because they're like, we're not going to do it anyway. (18:07) I said, yeah, but I need to know what yours is. (18:09) And here's why.(18:10) I want to give you what you want as well as what you need. (18:13) My natural inclination is to target the constraint, target the constraint, target the constraint, target the constraint based on your goals. (18:19) And not based on what you tell me your goals are, but based on what your real goals are, based on your core values.(18:25) You've said in the past, a lot of people would think my life is terrible. (18:30) Yeah, for sure. (18:30) Okay.(18:31) Okay. (18:31) Why? (18:31) Because their core values are different.(18:33) Remember when I had adventure on my core values and you were like, not a fucking chance. (18:37) Yeah, yeah, yeah. (18:38) Okay.(18:38) Everybody puts hiking in their dating bio.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:40) Yeah, exactly. (18:41) I don't think everybody likes hiking.

Alan Lazaros

(18:43) Yeah. (18:43) There's so many others of those too. (18:45) And I'm working with a couple conscious singles.(18:48) So that's been, that's fascinating. (18:49) It's a whole nother story. (18:50) But the point is everyone out there watching or listening, if nothing else comes of this episode, besides Kevin and I arguing, is what is a core value?(19:00) That's a real core value. (19:01) Like you will do, you will protect this. (19:04) You will value this.(19:06) You care about this deeply, even if you don't tell anyone. (19:08) And are your goals aligned with that? (19:10) Or are the goals you've chosen going to take that away?(19:13) If the goals you've chosen are going to require you to go farther from your core values, it's never going to work.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:20) And it's like, it's a light at the end of the tunnel that doesn't exist. (19:22) It's like, so you just get to a place like, what's the plan? (19:27) You, you, uh, there's a, there's a quote and then we'll get out of here.(19:30) Be, be very careful at what you get good at. (19:32) If you get good at something you hate, you're, you're stuck on the hamster wheel. (19:35) This is kind of similar.(19:36) Be very careful about doing something consistently to chase something that you actually can't get because you can't get off the hamster wheel to keep the thing in the first place. (19:46) That's a whole different conversation. (19:47) Say that better.(19:49) Um, when I made the most money financially in my mid twenties, finance money was one of my core values, but freedom, being able to do what I want, I traded it. (20:02) That's one of the reasons I ended up as miserable as I did. (20:05) Yeah.(20:05) And the only way to keep the money was to do even more trading it of my time and living places for months at a time. (20:11) And I realized very quickly that that was not going to be sustained. (20:14) Yeah.(20:15) Trauma ensued after that. (20:16) All right, cool. (20:18) Let's do that episode though on the next one.(20:20) Which one? (20:21) The personal development. (20:23) I got two based on our, our group that we just went to trust logic and personal professional relationship development.(20:29) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(20:29) So not relationship social, excuse me, personal development, social development, excuse me, I'm on it. (20:35) Professional development. (20:36) You and I, I didn't realize this, but you and I had high social development set points when we met because we spent so much time in the social world.(20:45) So much. (20:46) We both had some parties, friends, high school, college friends. (20:49) I know you didn't go to college, but you still had friends that were in college and you partied at many colleges.(20:53) A couple. (20:55) Okay.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:55) Yeah. (20:56) Not many. (20:56) I, it was not good for me.(20:57) College was not good to me. (21:00) Not good to me. (21:01) Got it.

Alan Lazaros

(21:01) But you were, I think better at the social development than I realized because I've coached a few men and women on, uh, social development. (21:12) And it's like, Oh, that totally came naturally to Kev for sure. (21:16) For sure.(21:18) Building trust, building relationships.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:20) My neighbor, my neighbor said he's got a nice Mustang really loud. (21:22) It's like, what kind of exhaust you're running on that? (21:24) You told me we're buds now.

Alan Lazaros

(21:27) Nice. (21:28) Yeah. (21:28) That's not a lot of people, uh, struggle with that and that's fine.(21:31) I just want to, I want our listeners to be able to identify which one they're really good at, which one they are decent and which one they really struggle with so that they can target the constraint.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:43) If you're out there and you want to identify those things and you want to target the constraint, Alan can help you with that as a coach. (21:48) That is essentially what he's doing. (21:49) He's taking a 30,000 foot view of you without you in it and saying, Hey, this is what I see.(21:54) These are the common themes. (21:54) These are the common patterns. (21:55) This is how we fix it.(21:56) So reach out to Alan if you're looking for coaching. (21:58) And if you're looking for the same thing, when it comes to fitness, we have the next level fitness accountability group. (22:03) There's posts in there every day.(22:05) People are keeping each other accountable. (22:06) It's awesome. (22:06) A great group of humans, just a great group of super positive humans trying to get jacked, whatever that means to them in this unique world.(22:13) All right. (22:14) As always, we love you. (22:15) We appreciate you.(22:16) Grateful for each and every one of you. (22:17) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single day to help you get there. (22:23) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential.

Alan Lazaros

(22:26) Next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:28) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (22:32) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(22:35) We mean it when we say family. (22:37) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (22:40) Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.(22:44) Thank you again, and we will talk to you tomorrow.