The Key To Sustaining Next Level Performance (2430)

Sustainable growth requires honest trade-offs. In this episode, Kevin and Alan break down how to sustain high performance without losing discipline, alignment, or fulfillment. They challenge the sacrifice-only mindset, while calling out the comfort-driven patterns that keep people below their potential. This conversation gets into goal setting, core values, identity, consistency, and the version of you your next level requires. The real question is not whether you need to change. It is what needs to change, what needs to stay, and what you need to stop pretending about.

If you are chasing bigger goals and stronger habits, this episode offers a grounded look at performance that lasts. Press play before your goals file a complaint against your current routine.

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Show notes:
(3:14) Aligning values with future goals
(8:10) When your goals require more
(11:20) The two extremes of growth
(14:40) Rebuilding neglected core values
(20:33) Meeting needs without sabotaging goals
(24:40) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) I believe now more than ever the key to sustaining next level performance for a long period of time is twofold. (0:08) One, understanding who you must become in order to accomplish your goals, that's part one. (0:13) Part two, understanding the needs that need to be met consistently and sustainably along the journey in order for you to keep being next level and I feel like most people are either talking about one or the other and I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Alan Lazaros

(0:29) You have to give up to grow up, the law of trade-off states you have to say goodbye to the previous level to get to the next level. (0:37) However, there are certain things on the previous level that you have to bring with you and figuring that out is the key. (0:46) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:49) I'm your host Kevin Palmieri and I'm your co-host Alan Lazarus. (0:54) At NLU we believe in a heart-driven but no approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(1:00) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:07) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(1:22) Self-improvement in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:29) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:35) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2430, The Key to Sustaining Next Level Performance. (1:43) I was talking to a friend the other day and I was asked questions so I was giving advice. (1:50) It wasn't unsolicited advice hopefully.(1:52) I think it was solicited advice and I said I think one of the important things to understand is yes you have to change in order to become a new next level version of yourself and you have to figure out who do you have to become in order to accomplish the goals. (2:07) Sure. (2:08) But there's most likely also things that you need to do in order to feel fulfilled in the process and if you have to give those up you might not actually do the things that you're supposed to do.(2:19) And I said maybe a good test for this, I don't know, would be if nothing ever changed, if things stayed exactly the same as they are today and you had the same amount of R&R and you had the same love life and you had the same whatever, same routine, would you be fulfilled? (2:38) If not, that's it, that's something, something potentially worth shifting. (2:42) If so, that's a hint to some degree but I think, I don't know, for a long time you and I were sacrificing things that maybe we valued and then you get to a place where you don't have to sacrifice that as much but you still can't go all in on it and I think it's a, I don't know, I just think it's a juggling act of you must become and who you will be fulfilled in becoming all mingled together.

Alan Lazaros

(3:14) So you mentioned a Venn diagram? (3:17) Yeah, I think so. (3:18) So imagine the left circle is the needs of the human, (3:28) the current version of you and the right circle is the aspirations of the future version of you (3:40) and the middle portion where it overlaps is kind of like your current core values in alignment with (3:48) your goals because your current core, if you have to give up a current core value (3:55) to go for a future goal, I don't want to say you can't do that because you can and you should in (4:03) some cases but you're not going to be super effective at it. (4:08) So...

Kevin Palmieri

(4:08) Or you can resent it, you can resent the journey.

Alan Lazaros

(4:12) For sure and or not even be able to execute. (4:16) I was on with a client earlier and she wants to be more consistent in fitness and this is a business client, she's a very successful multi-million dollar business and I said, do you want me to shift over? (4:29) I was a fitness coach for years, I have these trophies, modeling, blah, blah, blah.(4:34) I've helped so many people in fitness, like do you want me to pivot right now? (4:37) And she said yes and I said, honestly when in your life were you the most consistent in fitness? (4:46) And she said now and I tracked the numbers and I said, okay based on this numbers we've been working together for 147 days you've only worked out 49 of them.(4:58) So I've worked out every day for 4.2 years, I'm not saying that to brag, I'm saying it because I know how to do it and I know what it takes. (5:06) Do you want that? (5:07) She lit up like a Christmas tree, she's like that's what I would aspire to.(5:11) I said, okay so let's talk about the logistics. (5:15) Is it a logistics issue? (5:16) I said this, is it a logistics issue?(5:18) Is it something outside of you or inside of you that's in the way? (5:22) This person is doing renovations, the gym is seven minutes away, they have a daughter, there's a lot of scheduling issues. (5:32) Okay, but really deep down she just doesn't have enough discipline because I found out she has a trainer.(5:37) She trains three times a week, those 49 out of 147 days that she trained were all with the trainer. (5:43) Boom. (5:44) I said, permission to be candid?(5:46) She said, of course. (5:47) You're not gonna do it without a trainer there. (5:50) The truth is based on my studying of you over the last 147 days, you're never gonna have a trainer that you're paying for sitting there by themselves waiting for you.(5:59) You always show up when you have it on the calendar with your trainer there waiting. (6:04) She said, yeah. (6:05) I said, then just up it to four times a week with the trainer.(6:09) Don't tell yourself a fucking story. (6:11) You're gonna do this and that and this and that and that. (6:13) Back to the point of this episode, she has a core value to be with her daughter, she has a core value to be with her husband, she has a core value to be doing other work, being in the coffee shop grinding.(6:26) She doesn't value fitness enough in the present unless she has a trainer sitting there. (6:33) And so what I would rather everybody do is kind of like, we're all kind of wired differently. (6:41) There's certain things that she does every day that she never misses that I don't do at all.(6:46) And if I wanted to do those, I'd have to rewire. (6:49) I'd have to change my environment. (6:50) I have to change my mindset.(6:51) I have to change my fucking goals. (6:52) I'd probably have to. (6:53) You can only go against your true nature so much.(6:56) I'm all for you have to overcome your true nature. (6:59) We all have to stop overeating. (7:01) We all have to exercise consistently.(7:03) But there is some truth to like, if you love basketball and hate baseball, you're not going to force yourself to be a pro baseball player no matter how naturally good you are at it. (7:14) And so we have these natural inclinations. (7:16) And my truth for her is valuable for everyone listening, which is you're not gonna do it.(7:22) You're not gonna exercise every day like me. (7:24) You're not gonna. (7:25) Stop pretending you're gonna.(7:27) It's okay that you're not gonna. (7:29) But when the trainer's sitting there four days a week that you're paying for, you'll fucking be there. (7:36) And the data shows it.(7:38) So let's just go from three times a week to four. (7:40) And then we'll see if that's good. (7:42) I bet you do it.(7:43) If I had to put money on it, she'll do it. (7:47) If I had to put money on her doing it on her own, without the trainer, I probably would bet against her. (7:53) Unfortunately, I feel so hardcore and mean saying that.(7:56) But that's the truth. (7:57) I said, I've been doing this for 11 years. (7:59) Behavior change is my fucking jam.(8:02) I know you'll do more for the trainer than you will for yourself. (8:04) That's also why you hired me. (8:06) So you're humble enough to do that.(8:09) Hire the fucking trainer. (8:10) So my point of this for anyone watching or listening is your core values are not in alignment with your goals. (8:17) The things you need to be to achieve your goals are probably not fully aligned with the person you currently are.(8:25) And to the friend that you're mentioning, I would say this to her. (8:32) What parts of your true nature are you going to have to lop off in order to achieve these goals? (8:38) Because either you need to change your fucking goals, or you need to change yourself.(8:44) And when I'm with clients, I'm always telling them this. (8:47) This is the last piece. (8:49) We measured a bunch of stuff, right?(8:51) Because for example, I'll say to a client, Hey, like in all honesty, you need to be like harder working. (8:56) You're kind of lazy. (8:57) And I say it nicer than that, but that's kind of what I'm saying.(9:00) And I said, not compared to other people. (9:03) You're not lazy compared to other people compared to other people. (9:05) You're super hardworking.(9:07) Statistically, you're on the top 10% hardest working people I've met compared to your goals. (9:12) It's not close. (9:14) You're not hardworking enough.(9:16) That's the thing. (9:18) The goals you have told me you want require more of you than you are willing to fucking give. (9:24) And you know it.(9:26) So you either lower the goals and be more in alignment with who you are in the present, or you keep the goals high and you rewire. (9:35) And I think that that's something that nobody gets right. (9:38) It's very hard to get that right.(9:40) Well, I think it's a right.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:41) That's like the right percentage. (9:44) It's the right. (9:45) And it changes how many people.(9:48) I think it's a really weird place when you feel like you've lost yourself because I've been there for sure. (9:54) Like, I don't feel, yeah, I'm kind of fulfilled, but I also fucking am resenting what I'm doing and I'm miserable and I'm fucking tired and I'm not looking, I have nothing to look forward to. (10:05) Like, that's a really weird place to be.(10:08) And I think that's rarer. (10:09) I think that's far rarer than the other side of like, yeah, no, I love, I really enjoy what I'm doing, but I don't feel like I'm accomplishing my goals. (10:17) It's like, okay, well, I'd rather be on the other end.(10:20) I'd rather be on the other end of like, I feel like I've lost myself because you can find yourself. (10:24) You can find yourself for sure.

Alan Lazaros

(10:26) Let's articulate those two sides real quick. (10:28) And I want to make sure you get to your point too, but that I think knowing which side you're on is really important.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:36) Yeah, I don't, one side it's like, I'm, yeah, I think it's not simple, but one side, I'm not willing to sacrifice almost anything. (10:47) So things are like really good, but I'm not actually getting close to my goals.

Alan Lazaros

(10:50) That's one. (10:51) The other side, that's a common one.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:53) I think that's like very much more common. (10:55) For sure. (10:55) I think the other side is I'm willing to sacrifice almost anything.(10:58) And I've gotten to the point where I forgot what it was like to be me and like enjoy. (11:03) And that's a fucking, not a sad place to be because I think it, you can recorrect that because if anything, you're making more progress towards your goals, except you're not, you're losing sight of what you value as a human. (11:16) So it's dangerous though.(11:18) That's a dangerous place to be for sure.

Alan Lazaros

(11:20) One of them is I love my day-to-day life, but I'm not accomplishing my goals. (11:26) The other one is I'm crushing my goals, but I'm kind of miserable. (11:31) And everyone's in one of those two.(11:34) There's no one. (11:35) I really hope that that lands for people. (11:37) There's no one like crushing their goals and super happy on the day-to-day.(11:42) Like that's not a thing. (11:44) People make it look like it is, but it's not. (11:46) This person, there's a client I'm thinking of crushing her goals.(11:50) Absolutely. (11:51) Just paying off debt, hammering it, earning more, spending less. (11:55) It's unbelievable.(11:56) It's un-fucking-believable, but she's fucking miserable. (12:00) Yeah. (12:01) And honestly, of course you are.(12:03) That's what it takes to crush your goals. (12:05) That's my truth. (12:06) That's what it fucking takes to crush your goals.(12:08) But when, how long can they do that for? (12:10) Forever.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:12) I see that's where, I think that's where people get stuck.

Alan Lazaros

(12:15) Yeah, I know. (12:16) We should argue with that because I was being playful.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:19) Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(12:20) I do think in some ways you're going to, put it this way, if you have to be on one end, I choose that end all day. (12:26) Same, same. (12:26) I'd rather be achieving my goals and miserable than stuck and happy any day of the week.(12:33) Yeah. (12:33) However, you've got to find five between those two extremes, which is the point of this episode.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:37) Well, I think that's the thing is like, okay, if you're overly in the moment, go with the flow, I feel like it's very hard to ramp up meaningfully. (12:52) Right? (12:53) Like if you're doing a level one effort, going from level one to level 1.5, it's not, that ain't gonna do it. (13:00) But if you're at level 10, you're at level 10, you've sacrificed everything, everything contextually, go down to 9.8, it's not that big of a deal. (13:11) Pretty easy. (13:12) It's pretty easy.(13:14) And, but it's also deeply meaningful. (13:16) It's like, yeah, no, I used to work 90 hours a week. (13:19) Now I work 85 and I go golfing on Friday.(13:21) Or Saturday, not Friday. (13:23) And I didn't work 90. (13:25) I don't think I've ever worked that.(13:26) Maybe I have. (13:26) I don't know. (13:27) That there's something to that because they were more tangible one.(13:34) I track every single dollar and I never eat out and we, we meal prep everything and we only eat leftovers and we only buy stuff on sale. (13:44) And when people want to go out to restaurants, we make up excuses why we can't do it to like, now we order once a week, we get takeout once a week and it's the best. (13:55) That.(13:56) That. (13:57) You're still on track financially. (14:01) That's the conversation is like, you can't, oh God, there is such thing as overly optimal.(14:08) You can only optimize to the degree that you're not going to be miserable enough to stop the journey. (14:13) Yeah, I know. (14:14) There's something, there's something to that.(14:17) Now, again, I think most people are under. (14:19) But if you're, but as we talk more and more about this, if you're out there and you've sacrificed everything, which I don't think anybody really has, but myself included, I don't know. (14:32) Just check if you've ever, what advice do you give to somebody when they say, I don't know, I don't know if I fucking lost myself.(14:38) Like I don't know who I am anymore.

Alan Lazaros

(14:40) Yeah, you go to the core values. (14:42) You'd go, I'd send them the fulfillment pyramid, 21 categories.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:47) No, uh, fill this out when you get a second.

Alan Lazaros

(14:49) Yeah, I actually would do that, but no, I would now I would go to the core values. (14:57) Like what core value are you neglecting the most? (15:01) Okay.(15:01) And then when somebody says variety, I don't go out ever.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:07) I never leave the house. (15:08) I don't see what it's like outside. (15:10) I've never, I don't see people.

Alan Lazaros

(15:11) What do you do? (15:12) Uh, I would say, yeah, I would join some sort of a club that's constructive for your goals. (15:18) This is that.(15:19) So, okay.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:21) How do we, so this is the thing though. (15:24) This is the thing that doesn't fucking feel productive.

Alan Lazaros

(15:27) No, no, it does. (15:29) Hold on. (15:29) Okay.(15:30) It does for cursing. (15:32) I, you could join. (15:35) So let's say you have fitness goals.(15:38) You've done this. (15:39) So golfing is not super constructive for your fitness goals, but it's certainly not destructive.

Kevin Palmieri

(15:46) The way I do it is more, I mean, yeah, it's, it's not right.

Alan Lazaros

(15:49) I should, how many steps is 18 holes? (15:52) I don't know. (15:52) I don't care.(15:53) I think it was like 15, probably 15,000, 15,000. (15:56) Yeah. (15:56) So that's not bad for your fitness goals.(15:58) No, but that's much better than getting wasted at a club.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:01) Well, the thing is, I don't, I bring a diet Coke or like I bring a diet root beer. (16:06) I don't drink. (16:07) I don't go to the clubhouse and eat like I just, you know, so that's a constructive.

Alan Lazaros

(16:13) It's, it's a non-destructive core value, whichever core values being neglected, identify that if it's social interaction, then try to golf with some people in alignment with your goal for fitness, which is 15,000 steps and don't eat the clubhouse. (16:29) And you got to make sure that social interaction isn't binge drinking on the weekends or whatever. (16:33) Like, but ultimately this all comes down to when you say optimal or non-optimal, I I'm with you, but constructive and destructive, I think a good, every, every action you take, let's do zero to 10, five is optimal.(16:54) If you get too far on one end or the other, it's destructive. (16:58) So constructive is like three to seven, but you want to be at five. (17:06) But if you do a six, it's like, all right.(17:08) So for example, what would be optimal for Kevin's fitness goals is to weight train in the gym with perfect macros and make sure he takes his creatine before and after blah, blah, blah. (17:20) Okay. (17:20) Instead, he went golfing.(17:22) It's not 10 out of 10 constructive, but it's certainly not destructive.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:26) What level is it? (17:27) Like, let's say right now I have some sort of street going, I don't know what it is. (17:31) I don't care.(17:31) I'm not going to track it because that's not, I don't know. (17:34) I'm not going to every day, something, right. (17:39) Whether it's an hour on the treadmill or whatever.

Alan Lazaros

(17:41) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:43) On a scale of where is it on that?

Alan Lazaros

(17:45) Well, so let's, let's do this. (17:48) Planes have how far off course they are to their destination. (17:53) I do think this is a great metaphor.(17:55) It's not okay. (17:56) If you're heading from Boston to Los Angeles right now, you're, you're, you're pointed a little off. (18:03) So you're going to end up, if you only golf every day, you're going to end up 500 miles off course.(18:07) At least if you golf once a week, you're only going to end up 50 miles off course. (18:11) And by the way, there's a timeline and a target. (18:14) So in this metaphor, the planes going from Boston to Los Angeles, and let's say three and a half hours with your goal, let's say it's 10 pounds in 10 weeks.(18:25) That's the metaphor is at all times, everyone's off. (18:30) Everyone's off at all times. (18:31) Just not off as much.(18:32) That's one of the reasons why 10 pounds in 10 weeks is so hard. (18:34) And I wish I had the data. (18:36) I kind of do.(18:36) So I'll, I'll, I'll give a guesstimate here of the 28 people that did the 10 pound in 10 week challenge. (18:42) A very, very small fraction actually achieved it. (18:45) Like you and I really do, I think, underestimate how good we are at that.(18:50) Like I'll hit the mark no matter what, but that's because we have such a good gauge on how on or off we are at all times. (18:59) We measure our weight. (19:00) We measure our calories.(19:01) We measure our exercise. (19:02) Like I started the miles for mindset thing because I was off because of the coconut milk. (19:08) That was like an extra 400 calories, 200 for me, 200 for Emilia, an extra 200 calories a day, which per week ends up being what?(19:18) 1,400, no, 2,800, 2,800 calories a week, which is almost a pound a week right there.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:23) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(19:24) Right. (19:24) So you can't be off that much. (19:26) And that often when you have big goals and in this metaphor, 10 pounds in 10 weeks is pretty intense.(19:32) 20 pounds in 10 weeks would make it exponentially harder. (19:35) Five pounds in 10 weeks makes it exponentially easier. (19:37) So to the point of this conversation, your core values need to be in alignment with your goals, but which one do you prioritize first goals?(19:45) First core values for second or core values. (19:48) First goals. (19:48) Second, it needs to be goals.(19:50) First core values. (19:51) Second, if you want to achieve the goal and then the amount off course. (19:54) So for you, golfing is not that far off course.(19:57) If your goal is to lose weight, if your goal is to gain weight, it's a little more off course, but you're still revving your metabolism. (20:03) You can still eat more. (20:04) It's, it's.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:05) I'll just bring a sandwich with me.

Alan Lazaros

(20:07) Exactly. (20:08) Or have a full cow diet or a full cow root beer instead of a diet. (20:13) Right.(20:14) But I do think that that's a valuable frame. (20:17) And I know we got to go here in a second, but everyone at all times is off track or on track to a certain degree to toward their goals. (20:25) And that's why clear measurable goals are so brutal because you immediately are off track.(20:29) The moment you set a goal with a timeline, you're immediately off track.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:33) There's something to be said about like the. (20:37) Not the mood. (20:38) I don't mean it like that.(20:40) But yeah, just if you have to find a way to get your needs met, you just have to find a way to get your needs met in the way that also gets your goal met. (20:48) Exactly. (20:48) And it doesn't, but it's less destructive than others.

Alan Lazaros

(20:51) And the goal has to matter more than the needs.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:54) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(20:55) I, otherwise you won't hit the goal.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:57) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(20:57) If you put your needs above the goal, you will not hit the goal. (21:02) If you put the goal above your needs, you will definitely hit the goal. (21:05) The question is, will you be able to sustain it?(21:07) And will you be miserable when you get there? (21:09) And honestly, you have to integrate these. (21:13) You have to like, if I hated this, I don't like podcasting as much as coaching, but I don't dislike it.(21:20) Like, I don't dislike it enough to not do it right. (21:24) This is, of all the things I want to do with my life, this is within the top 10 for sure. (21:30) Genuinely.(21:30) And if it was top 1000, there's no way we'd do this every day. (21:36) I mean, think about it, right? (21:37) Like, think about something that you would never do every day for any amount of money, right?(21:42) So you do have to integrate your values with your goals, but you can't be like, well, I never really want to do finances because everybody has to do finances. (21:52) Nobody likes finance. (21:54) I mean, some people do, but kind of not really.(21:57) And maybe they like it more than you. (21:58) So there's certain things that you have to do no matter what. (22:01) Like, I can't stand dieting.(22:02) I genuinely fucking hate it. (22:04) I'm not joking. (22:04) I fucking hate dieting.(22:06) It doesn't really matter, Alan. (22:08) No one can diet for you. (22:10) Like, you can't automate that.(22:11) You have to put the food in your face. (22:13) So everybody integrate their values with their goals. (22:16) And sometimes you just have to suck it up and do the thing you don't want to do.(22:20) And people's relationship with that is really not positive enough.

Kevin Palmieri

(22:24) No, I agree. (22:24) And this is a very, like, this is a rare thing. (22:26) Like, this person I'm talking about talking to, like, that's a, I think it's rarer to be on the end where you're like, I've lost myself because I've given up my core values and what I value as a human for so long because I care about my success.(22:37) It's like, all right, we'll just dial. (22:38) You got to figure out something, you know, not going to stop what you're doing and say like, all right, now I'm just going to go do what I want every day. (22:44) Like, no, no, no.(22:45) We just, we have to inject some level of joy. (22:49) Just give yourself some level of joy. (22:51) I watched, there was a big, big fights on this weekend.(22:54) I watched them on Sunday morning on the treadmill. (22:57) You know what I used to do? (22:58) I used to get $75 of Taco Bell, hammer Taco Bell, smoke a bunch of weed, and then watch the fights and just veg on the couch.(23:05) Now I watch them on the treadmill. (23:07) It's like, okay, that's a win. (23:09) That's way more, I would say that's slightly more constructive than what I was doing before.(23:13) Definitely. (23:14) Right?

Alan Lazaros

(23:15) Bad for the big account. (23:16) Bad for the fitness goals. (23:20) Now it's just a little bit less.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:22) Here's a last thing before we get out of here. (23:25) I, somebody asked me, they're like, hey, will you come try this new golf course? (23:29) And I was like, no.(23:30) They're like, why not? (23:30) And I said, because my mom got me a gift certificate to this golf course. (23:33) I'm golfing for free.(23:35) So I'm just going to keep going there until that runs out because I don't want to spend money on golf.

Alan Lazaros

(23:40) Because you have financial goals. (23:41) Because I have financial goals. (23:42) If you didn't have financial goals, you would have said yes.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:44) Oh, everywhere. (23:45) Yeah, whatever. (23:45) Pick the motor.(23:46) I don't care. (23:47) Let's go wherever you want. (23:48) That's my goal.(23:49) Goals hold you accountable. (23:50) Goals are so important. (23:51) Goals are so important.(23:53) And you got to make sure that what you're doing is sustainable. (23:55) That's my point in this episode. (23:56) As somebody who has had to sustain this, which has been challenging for me at times, for sure, for nine years, that you got to have something to look forward to.(24:06) But it can't be detrimental to the goal. (24:09) Or it has to be the smallest amount detrimental as possible. (24:12) It's a whole fucking thing.(24:13) All right, cool. (24:13) If you're looking to optimize this, find fulfillment, find success. (24:16) All that happy jazz.(24:17) Reach out to Alan for coaching. (24:18) You get a really good understanding of what he does based on the client stories that he tells and measuring and tracking everything. (24:24) So reach out to Alan.(24:25) If you're looking to stay consistent when it comes to fitness, that's what we talked about today. (24:29) We talked a lot about that. (24:30) We have a WhatsApp group.(24:31) Totally free. (24:32) No strings attached. (24:33) Next level fitness accountability group.(24:35) Reach out to Alan and or myself. (24:36) We'll let you in. (24:36) We're in there every single day doing our thing, trying to lead by example.(24:39) So we would love to have you. (24:41) As always, we love you. (24:42) We appreciate you.(24:43) Grateful for each and every one of you. (24:44) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single day to help you get there.

Alan Lazaros

(24:50) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (24:54) Next Level Nation.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:56) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (25:00) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(25:02) We mean it when we say family. (25:04) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (25:08) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.(25:11) Thank you again, and we will talk to you tomorrow.