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How To Stay Humble While Succeeding (2436)
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Success is safest in disciplined hands. In this episode, Kevin and Alan examine why humility matters even more when progress starts to stack. Confidence is valuable, but it can turn into distortion when you stop paying attention to the habits, standards, and self-awareness that helped you grow in the first place. They get into personal development, self-belief, discipline, consistency, and the thin line between grounded growth and quiet arrogance.
Kevin and Alan challenge the idea that humility means playing smaller. Real humility is staying honest while still aiming higher. If you are growing, winning, or stepping into a new level, this episode will help you protect your progress without getting careless. Press play before your ego starts treating momentum like a guarantee.
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Show notes:
(3:30) Why results are not guaranteed
(6:01) Staying grounded before life gets hard
(9:18) Growth requires constant maintenance
(11:47) Balancing confidence with humility
(18:13) Measurement keeps you honest
(20:17) Set goals around self-belief
(23:33) Outro
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Kevin Palmieri
(0:00) I definitely am more scared of losing what we have the more we get, and I don't think that's a bad thing. (0:08) I think that's probably a good thing because it allows me to make sure I don't get cocky about (0:15) this, and I think it's really easy, and we'll go into this in the episode, but it's really easy (0:19) to forget how different things were six months ago, a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, (0:25) and to assume the reality that you're living in today is going to be the reality you're living (0:29) in forever, when that's not true if you don't do the things that brought you the reality in the
Alan Lazaros
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Kevin Palmieri
(1:45) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2,436, How to Stay Humble While Succeeding. (1:51) Disclaimer, you can't do an episode on humility pretending to be humble without not seeming humble. (1:57) Just going to put that out there.(1:59) Not claiming to be the most humble people on the planet, but I'll speak for myself. (2:03) I am the most humble person on the planet. (2:05) But when Alan talks, you don't have to feel that.(2:09) One of the interesting, cool things lately is I have been looking at a lot of old data. (2:17) I was looking at, oh, one of our, so Ron, the director of Next Level Podcast Solutions, sent me a screenshot the other day of our podcast tracker from 2021. (2:30) We had six clients in 2021.(2:35) I found something from… (2:37) How many do we have now? (2:39) Uh, 85.(2:42) I found, well, I know. (2:43) How dare you?
Alan Lazaros
(2:44) I know.
Kevin Palmieri
(2:44) We have 144. (2:45) Yeah, yeah, but I don't, no, no, this was just NLPS clients. (2:49) I know.(2:49) Stay out of my, stay out of here. (2:51) Today, I saw something from last year. (2:55) This is from April of last year.(2:58) We had 61 clients. (3:03) So we've got 25, 24, 25 clients over the last year. (3:11) I try very, very, very hard to not assume the way things are today.(3:19) Can you stop hammering the mic? (3:20) I can't.
Alan Lazaros
(3:21) The mic is so much, it's so much bigger.
Kevin Palmieri
(3:24) I need, I need time to adjust. (3:25) Kevin and I got new mics and he's talking with his hands. (3:27) I'm just slapping it.(3:29) I'm slapping the bass. (3:30) I try really hard not to assume that the new normal is going to stay the new normal. (3:36) I try really hard to assume that because, yeah, that's the goal, obviously, and that's what we're aspiring for, but…
Alan Lazaros
(3:48) But if you're focused on getting better every day, then you should assume the trend line is going to go up. (3:54) I will not. (3:55) No.(3:57) Well, good thing we have both of us. (3:58) I won't. (3:59) I don't, I don't assume.(4:02) Is this a belief thing? (4:03) Just because like, I don't, I would be surprised if I didn't have, and again, I want to stay humble too, but I'm going for 40. (4:12) When I got to 30, that was my goal.(4:15) One-on-one clients. (4:16) And now I'm at 34. (4:17) I'm going for 40.(4:18) To me, I get humbled by the attempting to aim high.
Kevin Palmieri
(4:22) But you've said like, I got to stay humble. (4:24) I got to stay humble. (4:25) That is not a conscious thought for me.(4:27) For me, it's like, I got to keep performing. (4:29) I got to keep performing. (4:30) I'm not worried about that at all.(4:32) I have that. (4:33) Yeah. (4:34) I have that.
Alan Lazaros
(4:35) How far can I take this?
Kevin Palmieri
(4:37) Well, I think that's why you and I make a really good team because… (4:40) Agreed. (4:40) Yeah, I need both.(4:41) How to stay humble while succeeding. (4:43) One, understand that none of this, none of the You don't have that. (4:46) How far can I take this?(4:49) I have goals. (4:55) I'm not trying to out you right now. (4:57) I'm like just winging it.(4:59) Not to the degree you do. (5:01) No, no, not to the, no. (5:04) Yeah.(5:05) No. (5:05) I just think that's important for the listeners to see. (5:08) I have a, my goal is to hit a hundred NLPS clients by the end of the year.(5:12) Nice. (5:13) I'd love to, I'd love to get there. (5:14) That's totally feasible for sure.(5:17) Then after that, I'll figure out what that looks like and what to do with that. (5:22) And then I'll set another goal. (5:24) Nice.(5:25) So yeah. (5:26) And I also am always thinking of, I, dude, I had a, I had a thought the other day. (5:34) It was like, it's coming.(5:36) It's coming. (5:37) I know things are fucking cranking right now. (5:41) Oh yeah, you're going to get into the break.(5:41) I had that too. (5:42) It's coming brother.
Alan Lazaros
(5:43) You better stay fucking grounded because it's coming. (5:47) I had that too. (5:51) You just, you, when life is really good, that you know, and again, a lot of people think, well, you're manifesting bad things.
Kevin Palmieri
(5:59) No, nope.
Alan Lazaros
(6:01) We just are accurate in the fact that life is inherently atrocious and challenging and you need to stay humble in advance so that you're not, so that you're prepared when bad things happen. (6:13) You don't, you have to stay at five. (6:16) That's really what it comes down to.(6:18) Like you'd be naive to think, oh, we're good now. (6:22) We're good now.
Kevin Palmieri
(6:23) That is the magical land that a lot of people aspire for. (6:26) Not a chance. (6:27) I know.(6:28) We have to pop that bubble now. (6:29) I understand. (6:31) Not real.(6:33) You, it depends on what you're doing. (6:35) Obviously the approach is going to be different. (6:37) And you think by, you think the 85th client thinks they're, they care that they're the 85th client.(6:42) They don't give a fuck. (6:43) Not at all. (6:43) They want to be the one client.(6:45) They don't care how many there are that, that you think the restaurant, they know that, that you don't know that they've served 600 other people that day. (6:57) It doesn't matter. (6:57) My fucking table should be clean.(7:00) Yeah. (7:01) I shouldn't, I shouldn't have stuff on my plate. (7:03) It should be clean because that is how you stay humble.(7:07) Real quick, real quick one, when you get success and when you get a certain level, maybe beyond what you thought was possible, you have to understand that it's not going to stay that way by default ever. (7:19) And the higher you climb, sometimes the L's feel worse, believe it or not, from my perspective, that's part one. (7:25) And then part two, part two of staying humble is when you, when you are down and out and shit just sucks and you feel like nothing is going your way, you find something to be grateful for.(7:37) I think that's humility. (7:39) I think humility is saying, yeah, I don't have what I did or things aren't going the way I want, but there's a couple of things I can point to that I really should appreciate, even though it feels like the world is burning down. (7:50) Those are the two.(7:51) When you're crushing it, it feels like nothing could possibly go wrong. (7:54) It will. (7:55) It is.(7:56) It's going to. (7:57) And when, when all things are going wrong, it feels like nothing could possibly get better. (8:01) You have a list of things you could look at right now and be super, super grateful for.(8:05) I think that's being humble on both ends. (8:08) So your approach to staying humble is that daily reminders that none of this is guaranteed. (8:17) Like, do you not, you think I want to respond to a client at nine o'clock at night?(8:22) No, but it's like, it doesn't matter. (8:26) That's how we got here. (8:28) That's how this grew.(8:30) It grew because you did the things you didn't want to do because you didn't have any results.
Alan Lazaros
(8:34) You know, I agree with you 10 out of 10. (8:36) Let's pretend for a second. (8:37) I don't for any listener who might not explain why we'll talk to Kev nine years ago.(8:45) Like, why would, why can't you have, why, why do you have to do that? (8:48) Like, it seems like your life sucks. (8:50) Why do you have to do that?
Kevin Palmieri
(8:53) You, you don't, if you don't want the goal, why do you have to do it? (8:57) You don't have to do it. (8:58) Yeah, no, not if you don't want the goal.(9:00) If I just, if I was like, all right, cool. (9:02) I don't know. (9:03) Whatever.(9:03) I'm happy to stay at like 75 clients. (9:05) We lose some, whatever. (9:06) I would just fuck off more.(9:08) I would just like my hours and you can message me and then we'd stay at this level. (9:12) Yeah. (9:12) You can only message me from 6am to 6pm.
Alan Lazaros
(9:15) I'll get back to you There is one deeper layer I got to share. (9:18) I please just have to, if it, if you aren't trying to grow it, it will inevitably die. (9:23) That's unfortunate.(9:24) There's a law of the universe called entropy. (9:27) Anyone can look this up and it basically says all things without maintenance and energy injected into it. (9:33) Go, go to chaos.(9:34) Like, uh, you ever seen, I am legend way back. (9:37) Awful.
Alan Lazaros
(9:38) Yeah.
Alan Lazaros
(9:40) And it's like post-apocalyptic and New York city and all the trees overtook the buildings and all that. (9:46) It's just, if, if the city just stopped paving the streets and stopped maintaining the city, I don't, it would just go to shit. (9:57) Like, um, Chernobyl was a horrible nuclear reactor incident and it didn't take that long for the forest and nature to take the whole place.(10:10) And, and I just think that we forget that. (10:14) Like if the business doesn't have effort injected into it, it will die. (10:19) Nothing.(10:21) Imagine if everyone at Apple was like, eh, we're good.
Kevin Palmieri
(10:25) But even on a smaller scale dreams, if your dreams, yeah. (10:28) If you're not pouring into them, they will die. (10:31) There's no such thing as building enough momentum where you can just walk away.(10:35) Never. (10:35) Like you can swing, uh, you can swing a swing, give it the, the old underdog, but eventually it's going to come to rest. (10:42) You know, the underdog, when you, when you run under someone and push them, it's called an underdog son.(10:48) I think, I think so. (10:52) I'm always thinking of what, not necessarily what is going wrong, but what could go wrong. (10:59) And I guess I don't, I don't know.(11:02) I don't think trying to get to the next level inherently humbles you. (11:07) Yeah. (11:07) But very honestly, sometimes it, sometimes it comes easier than you expect.(11:11) Like last week we got a bunch of clients. (11:13) It just happened. (11:14) I didn't do anything particular.(11:16) I wasn't, it just happened. (11:18) So then it's like when fish are jumping in the boat for you out there, you have to understand like that is a, that is a season. (11:25) That is a phase.(11:26) It's not going to be like that forever. (11:28) It's not going to be like that forever for, for almost anything. (11:32) Yeah.
Alan Lazaros
(11:32) Agreed. (11:33) Uh, one of the most important character traits in the world is, is humility, inward humility. (11:37) Cause I think outwardly is hard to tell what I want to share here.(11:45) And this, this is my approach. (11:47) It depends which end of the drive to five you're on. (11:49) The zeros don't believe they can get a mentor.(11:52) The tens don't think they need one. (11:54) Uh, the zeros don't think they can achieve their dreams. (11:57) The tens don't think they have to work.(11:59) They think it'll just come to them because they're special. (12:03) 10 is overconfident. (12:04) Zero is crippled with self-doubt.(12:09) So five is humble and confident, confident and humble, I think is a better syntax, honestly. (12:17) And I always said like, if you have level 10 self-belief in this direction, you better have level 10 humility in the other direction. (12:22) I think that's what maturity is.(12:24) Because in the past, when I was arrogant, like, yeah, I was smart and yeah, I was top of my class and yeah, I got into my school. (12:30) Like it's hard to stay humble when you win at a lot of stuff, especially when you're in a small pond, big fish, small pond. (12:37) But like to me, I was always humbled by my next big goal.(12:42) So, so doing really hard things, you want to stay humble, just run a timed mile. (12:46) It's atrocious. (12:48) I did mine with an incline today.(12:50) It was just awful. (12:51) Like you can't feel good about yourself and time your mile. (12:55) You just can't.
Kevin Palmieri
(12:57) It doesn't always cross over, I don't think. (13:00) It should. (13:02) Yeah, but it's very easy to justify that as like, well, that's a physical thing.(13:05) I'm not talking about a physical thing. (13:08) You know? (13:08) Seriously?(13:08) Yeah. (13:10) Okay. (13:11) Because that's a core value of yours.(13:13) I was thinking. (13:15) Yeah, that's fair. (13:16) Fuck, you know how hard it is to make scrambled eggs without them sticking to the pan?(13:18) That's humbling as shit. (13:19) I don't care. (13:21) That's not a core value of mine.
Alan Lazaros
(13:23) Yeah. (13:23) Yeah. (13:23) Yeah.(13:23) I don't really care about my competence in cooking. (13:26) Yeah. (13:27) That's fair.(13:28) It has to be. (13:29) Okay. (13:29) So do hard shit in something you value that.(13:32) Yeah. (13:32) Yeah. (13:33) And, um, there was a moment with someone earlier yesterday and I know you're listening, so you might not know this.(13:41) I haven't brought this up yet, but I was planning on it. (13:43) Uh, she thought that when you weigh yourself 204.4, the 0.4 was ounces. (13:51) No, the 0.4 is pounds, right?(13:54) There's 16 ounces in a pound. (13:56) Like that doesn't that's base 10 versus base 16. (13:58) Like, and I remember thinking like, Oh my God.(14:01) And again, I know you're listening. (14:03) You know, I love you. (14:04) But I remember thinking like, that's really devastating that you don't know that.(14:08) Like if you actually think that you're wrong about a lot of stuff. (14:11) And I got sad. (14:12) It's like, what else don't you know?(14:17) You know, like you can, if you don't measure right, you don't, you can't like win. (14:21) And that's a whole nother conversation about success. (14:22) But anyways, my point of that is like, you get humbled when you're in over your head.(14:27) So put yourself in over your head all the fucking time. (14:30) Like in everything, dude, if you have self belief, perfect. (14:34) I know, I know.(14:35) I know. (14:35) But this is for people that are over. (14:37) So for example, you're flying high, you're getting a bunch of clients.(14:39) You're awesome. (14:40) Go fucking do chin-ups. (14:42) Weighted chin-ups.(14:43) Like dude. (14:45) And here's the cool part. (14:46) Not only do you get humility, but you also get better.(14:49) Make, I want to make really hard shit look easy. (14:52) How do you do that? (14:54) Do hard shit every day.(14:55) Like today I was running and it's been 67 days. (14:59) Dude, I was running and I'm like, I remember when I first started this, I'm at 7.5 on the treadmill. (15:06) This was hard-ish.(15:08) It was like, I was, and I was barely even breathing. (15:12) I was like, this is like a walk for me now. (15:15) I got to put incline on this thing.(15:17) Cause there was a moment where I was like, just coast it out, man. (15:19) It's all good. (15:19) Just coast it out.(15:20) And then I was like, fuck that. (15:22) Put on an incline, you lazy fuck. (15:24) Right?(15:25) So I put on the incline and I ran an 8.45 with an incline and I was cooking, but I'm sitting there like, I bet you I'm making this look really easy right now to other people here, but it's only because I've done this for 67 days straight. (15:37) This was like not doable for me the first day. (15:40) So my point of that is when you are at a current level and you're winning at that level, if you want to stay humble, go for the next one.
Kevin Palmieri
(15:50) I just try to think like I'm very excited and grateful for what we have. (15:57) And I don't, I try not to get too attached to it. (16:01) I think that's like a new thing for me.(16:04) I try not to get, if you said, Hey man, I need you to get rid of the car. (16:07) It's like, all right, whatever, fuck it. (16:08) I'll get rid of it.(16:08) It's not the end of the world. (16:09) That's very new for me is I try not to get too attached to the next level before it locks in. (16:15) But I think that's also one of the reasons like I, I acquire something that I shouldn't get.(16:21) And then it revs me up cause I'm afraid to lose it. (16:24) I'm just afraid to lose it. (16:25) I'm afraid somebody's going to come take it away.
Alan Lazaros
(16:27) Remember when I used to say, when you learn to nothing, you'll have everything. (16:30) Yes. (16:30) Does that landing now?(16:31) No, no.
Kevin Palmieri
(16:32) No, it's just because, yeah. (16:33) Yeah. (16:33) It's just because one, I believe I could get the car back at some point.(16:39) Yeah. (16:39) Or two, if I said, yeah, dude, give me a month, like give me a month and let me try to like level up. (16:43) I'm sure I probably would because I'm so afraid to lose it that it pushes me to get better.(16:48) That's why the goals thing, when you're like, Hey man, this is the goal. (16:52) Like this is how much you should try. (16:53) It's like, nah, man, that ain't it for me, man.(16:55) It doesn't really work. (16:56) Yeah. (16:56) Agreed.(16:56) Take something away though. (16:58) And I'll do it.
Alan Lazaros
(16:59) Yeah. (16:59) I'll do it. (17:00) Yeah.(17:00) Yeah. (17:01) I'll do it. (17:01) That is, uh, I feel like I've become a much better coach over the years because I'm, I'm learning that maxing out is not the goal for a lot of people.(17:09) And you've said that years ago. (17:11) I didn't realize, like, to me, I, I want to max, I want to see how far I can take this. (17:15) Like to me, that's exciting.(17:17) Like, dude, a seven minute mile is not exciting. (17:19) Like seeing how far I can take this for the rest of my life excites me. (17:23) And I realized that that's not normal.
Kevin Palmieri
(17:27) So whatever, maybe, maybe we'll do a part two. (17:29) I know we didn't do like a ton on like the actual how to, but we'll see. (17:33) We'll see.(17:34) What do you think? (17:35) Okay.
Alan Lazaros
(17:36) Well, I thought we were pretty good at, yeah, but I feel like we could go. (17:39) What are the three ways you stay humble? (17:41) If you're flying high, remember this is a season.(17:43) If you're flying high, challenge yourself to go to the next level. (17:47) That will humble the hell out of you.
Kevin Palmieri
(17:48) Like big goals will humble you. (17:51) Well, just imagine all of the new results you've gotten. (17:54) Just imagine them going.(17:55) So imagine losing them all that. (17:57) Why is that beneficial? (17:59) Because it will keep, because you can't get a big head when you know, none of it's real.(18:03) It's like not actually real yet. (18:05) It is, but it's not there. (18:08) It has something has to stick around for a long enough period of time for me to believe it's real.
Alan Lazaros
(18:13) I also think measuring keeps you humble. (18:17) I do. (18:18) I think measuring keeps you really humble because the moment you set a timeline on a target and then you measure it, you're, you're off course most of the time.
Kevin Palmieri
(18:27) Yeah, that's true. (18:28) Well, we've, we've mentioned in the past, confidence is a tool that you haven't used and you don't know how to control yet. (18:36) So like, I don't know my, my specific person I'm talking to in this episode is like, you're crushing it right now and you're doing better than maybe you ever thought you could.(18:47) I don't think measuring, I think if anything, measuring is going to hurt it. (18:51) Like when I look at the number, I see the number every day. (18:53) It just keeps going up.(18:54) Like whatever. (18:55) Oh, I got to take it.
Alan Lazaros
(18:56) I can't look too much at that, but my numbers always benchmarked against the biggest number. (19:00) Well, I know like 34. (19:01) I'm not.(19:02) Yeah. (19:02) That's because I'm going to 40. (19:04) So I make sure my measure is always bigger.(19:06) My goal is always bigger than the measurement. (19:08) Always.
Kevin Palmieri
(19:09) Yeah. (19:09) I don't know if that's always the case for me. (19:13) Sometimes I'm beyond.(19:14) Yeah. (19:15) Last year I set a goal and I beat the goal. (19:17) I like that.(19:18) That's good for me. (19:20) 10 pounds in 10 weeks. (19:21) Like I want to beat the goal.(19:23) That's I'm not doing 10 pounds in 10 weeks to do 10 pounds in 10 weeks. (19:26) I'm doing 10 pounds in 10 weeks to change my physique completely. (19:30) That's not the goal is not the goal for me.(19:34) Well, then you're never going to maximize your potential. (19:38) I know, but I do believe I will get way closer than I would have if my goal was to maximize my potential is fucked up. (19:43) So that sounds paradox.
Alan Lazaros
(19:45) Yeah, we should do an episode on that for sure.
Kevin Palmieri
(19:47) The paradox of maximization by Lazarus, Paul, Mary circa 2026.
Alan Lazaros
(19:53) Yeah. (19:53) I think that would be awesome.
Kevin Palmieri
(19:55) Since I was one of this show, I think that is the point of this.
Alan Lazaros
(19:58) Yeah. (19:58) I do agree with you that you get closer to your potential by do not know by setting goals that are a little more than what you think you can hit and then hitting them. (20:12) And then that motivating you to go more and more and more versus just trying to reach your potential.
Kevin Palmieri
(20:17) That might be like one of the most well-vetted profound things that we've discovered over the years is like you set a goal based on your level of self-belief. (20:27) If you just do that forever, as your self-belief grows, you will be wildly successful.
Alan Lazaros
(20:30) Yeah. (20:31) Unbelievably.
Kevin Palmieri
(20:31) Yeah.
Alan Lazaros
(20:32) We are very much in agreement with that. (20:33) That is, that is a law. (20:35) That's what you almost have to do.(20:38) The next level law. (20:39) Because if you set a level 10 goal with level two belief, you're not going to do it. (20:45) And if you set a level two goal with level 10 belief, you're going to be arrogant and you're not going to do it because it's not worth it.(20:51) Yeah. (20:52) You have to, you have to set your goals based on your level of self-belief. (20:55) That is self-efficacy.(20:57) That is, we taught that in group coaching and I was on with Sasha earlier. (21:01) She's she said self-efficacy. (21:04) I knew I had to look that up.(21:06) And I think that self-efficacy is the fancy psychological word for self-belief, but that is the, we always will say this. (21:15) I know it's getting redundant, but I don't really care because it's the truth. (21:18) That's the thing.(21:20) If you get that wrong, everything else is wrong. (21:22) Everything else is wrong. (21:24) If you get that wrong and maybe all the content on the internet is not setting that up right.(21:30) Like if you listen to people like me, you're in so much trouble if you don't have high self-belief.
Kevin Palmieri
(21:37) Well, if you think you're the same. (21:39) Yeah. (21:40) That's another way to make sure you stay humble is do not let do.(21:45) And again, it's a fine line. (21:46) Do not let your results convince you you have more self-belief than you do because it will, it will try to, then it's not sustainable right there. (21:54) It will, it will try to.(21:56) That's like, I take a picture and I'm looking really good. (21:59) I can see my abs. (22:00) And then I take a picture from a different angle.(22:01) It's like, Jesus Christ. (22:02) I'm not even the same. (22:03) It doesn't look the same person.(22:04) Okay. (22:05) Evidently the results are getting to my head a little bit and I need to take a shitty angle as much as it sucks.
Alan Lazaros
(22:13) Remember Snapchat always made you look so much better. (22:15) They had them filters. (22:16) They don't know, but I didn't even use a filter.
Kevin Palmieri
(22:19) Snapchat did it. (22:20) Yeah.
Alan Lazaros
(22:20) Auto filters. (22:21) Yeah. (22:21) Built in.(22:22) You gotta be, yeah. (22:23) You, you, you gotta stay at five. (22:25) You have to stay at five.(22:27) Five is confident and humble, high self-belief and high humility. (22:32) You have to stay at five. (22:33) Five is the, is where reality and perception are working as a team.
Kevin Palmieri
(22:39) If your main goal in life, which I think is a great goal is to stay at five, to succeed, but stay humble, to prove yourself wrong and prove yourself right. (22:46) And all that happy jazz. (22:47) One of the best ways to do it is to have a world-class coach.(22:49) Alan Lazarus is a world-class coach. (22:51) Reach out to him. (22:52) And a next level fitness accountability group.(22:54) If you want to see Alan and I do our thing every day, if you want to see yourself do your thing every day, if you want to be around other people that are doing their thing every day, that's a great place, right? (23:04) There's no strings attached. (23:05) It's totally free WhatsApp.(23:07) Alan and I are there every day. (23:08) If you want accountability, there's no, I know I said, I said a weird word that doesn't exist. (23:13) If you want accountability, it's totally free.(23:16) No strings attached. (23:17) Alan and I are in there every day and we are good at being consistent. (23:21) I'm not good at cooking eggs.(23:22) I burned the shit out of them, but I can be in a WhatsApp group every day to lead by example. (23:27) And Alan is doing the same thing. (23:28) So totally free.(23:30) Anything you want to say about our friend? (23:32) Okay. (23:33) As always, we love you.(23:34) We appreciate you. (23:35) Grateful for each and every one of you. (23:36) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we will be here every single day to help you get free.(23:43) Keep leveling up to reach your free potential. (23:47) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (23:51) We love connecting with the Next Level family.
Alan Lazaros
(23:54) We mean it when we say family. (23:56) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (24:00) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.(24:03) Thank you again.
Kevin Palmieri
(24:04) And we will talk to you tomorrow.