Cause And Effect Of Your Goals (2452)

In this episode of Next Level University, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros challenge the way most people think about goals, growth, and achievement. A goal is not just something to reach. It is a system that reveals your habits, your standards, your self-awareness, and your willingness to handle pressure. Kevin and Alan talk about why meaningful goals matter, why the byproducts of effort are easy to miss, and how self-respect is built through doing difficult things consistently.

They also examine the difference between wanting the outcome and becoming the kind of person who can sustain it. If your goals are not changing your behavior, they may not be strong enough yet. Listen now, because the finish line is useful, but the version of you crossing it is the real audit.

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Show notes:
(2:34) Why goals shape who you become
(4:45) Recognizing the byproducts of effort
(9:09) When achievement still feels empty
(11:49) Pressure builds self-respect
(13:23) Aligning goals with core values
(16:45) Turning imagination into action
(19:28) Why credibility requires alignment
(23:39) Why the byproduct is not enough
(25:06) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) A wise man once said that it is not about the accomplishment of the goal, it is about who you must become in order to even get close to accomplishing the goal, and I think that's dumb.

Alan Lazaros

(0:15) Alright, so, you set a goal, why? (0:20) Kevin thinks it's to get the goal, but there has to be a deeper reason than that, and who you become to achieve it also matters. (0:29) Do you care more about the growth or the goal?

Kevin Palmieri

(0:31) Welcome to Next Level University, I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:36) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazaros. (0:39) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven, but no-BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:45) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health, and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:52) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

(1:14) Welcome to Next Level University. (1:20) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2452, The Cause and Effect of Your Goals. (1:26) So in yesterday's episode, I talked about the byproduct.(1:29) And Alan was like, whoa, you said byproduct. (1:34) Let's talk about that. (1:35) Oh, there's my camera, good.(1:36) And we ended with, am I so developed? (1:41) Right? (1:41) That's what we ended with.(1:42) Yeah, and then you didn't answer. (1:44) Well, you said, hey, we gotta go. (1:46) Yeah, I had a client, man.(1:47) We gotta go. (1:47) We gotta go. (1:48) I think I was gonna say something along the lines of, am I so, and this is a joke, obviously, I'm not.(1:53) Am I so developed? (1:54) Am I so transcendent? (1:56) Have I transcended so far beyond that I don't care at all about the byproducts and I just want to accomplish the goal?(2:08) No, absolutely not.

Alan Lazaros

(2:10) Well, that's it. (2:11) That's today's episode. (2:12) I would argue that you haven't transcended at all.(2:18) Okay, here. (2:20) I want to have fun, but I also want to make sure I say accurate things. (2:27) And I also don't want to pick on you.(2:28) So here's the thing. (2:34) You said in the opening, a Jim Rohn quote, he says, the goal is not to accomplish the goal. (2:44) You set the goal and achieve the goal for who it will make of you to achieve it.(2:49) Okay, I love that quote. (2:50) I think that, and this is where I want to go. (2:52) I want to get back to the core of this, which is why set a goal in the first place?(2:59) Okay, there's a lot of answers to that question. (3:01) There's a lot of reasons that you could, I could come up with 15 reasons why to set a goal. (3:10) Now, next part of this, let me get there.(3:14) Let me get there. (3:15) Let me get there. (3:17) You set the goal for who?(3:18) Yeah, if you don't need to achieve much, you don't have to become much. (3:24) I think there's a lot of truth to that. (3:26) So I'm thinking of someone right now who is very complacent.(3:30) We did a few episodes on complacency last week. (3:33) All right, if someone is really blissful and complacent and totally good with where they are, Jim Rohn says, if you don't need much, you actually don't have to become much. (3:46) If you need to be great at basketball, you have to become great at basketball.(3:52) People who don't care about achievement, they don't really have the necessity. (3:59) And there's downsides to that. (4:02) There's like massive downsides to that.(4:04) I think of it in terms of dating all the time because I coach couples. (4:08) There's one person I'm thinking of who has become a very high value woman, but she didn't become a high value woman to attract a dream partner. (4:15) She became a high value woman because she had no choice in order to achieve her goals.(4:20) And she cares so much about her goals that she actually has like sailed away from friends and family. (4:26) I know you're listening. (4:28) I'm not even here to celebrate her.(4:30) I'm here to celebrate that concept. (4:33) Emilia is not dating Alan Lazarus. (4:36) She's dating who Alan Lazarus had to become to achieve his fucking dreams.(4:40) And if I didn't have any dreams, this Alan Lazarus wouldn't exist.

Kevin Palmieri

(4:45) Fired up. (4:46) I like it. (4:47) I think the hard part about this though is it almost doesn't matter for the first goal you set.(4:53) That's why I think this is such a hard concept to sell. (4:55) Cool. (4:57) You don't get the goal.(4:58) You don't get the goal. (5:00) Then you have to take a step back and then realize like, ah, fuck. (5:03) Okay.(5:05) I set out on this trek to whatever, right? (5:08) To accomplish the goal. (5:09) I wanted to run a seven minute mile.(5:12) I just trained for three months. (5:13) I didn't do it. (5:13) Fuck.(5:14) Then you got to take a step back and you got to say, but like, I mean, I really proved to myself I could get up every day and put my running shoes on. (5:21) I've been, I've been doing mobility more. (5:23) My cardiovascular health's way better.(5:25) I've been tracking what I eat. (5:26) I've been drinking more water. (5:27) I've been tracking my sleep.(5:28) I got a whoop or an aura ring or apple, whatever it is. (5:32) Then you have to lock that concept in. (5:35) And you met some girl at running club.(5:38) Whatever, right? (5:38) However many things. (5:39) You see how it all stacks though?

Alan Lazaros

(5:41) I do. (5:42) Encouraging.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:42) I love it. (5:42) But it only stacks to the degree that you recognize it.

Alan Lazaros

(5:46) I know. (5:47) That's why I love this concept and why I get so fired up because I don't think people understand the downside of not having huge goals. (5:58) But there's, there's such a massive downside with not having huge goals.(6:02) Yeah. (6:02) But there's also downsides with having huge goals. (6:05) Of course.(6:06) But they're way less, they're way less. (6:09) Oh, so what? (6:10) Your life blows a bit.(6:11) Like I know I'm being playful with that, but well, you know, I'm in agreement.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:15) I agree, but I understand.

Alan Lazaros

(6:17) I know that you agree, but we need to talk about the old you who didn't fucking agree. (6:22) I think you need to, I was talking to like, why does success matter? (6:30) Like we have a success podcast.(6:32) Like why does that matter? (6:33) Right? (6:34) It's not just to be wealthy.(6:36) Like that's, it's never about just that.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:39) I, I really feel like we got, we got food last night. (6:45) Also we have to lock in. (6:46) What is our fucking, what are we doing?(6:48) Body weight challenge. (6:48) We need to lock that in. (6:49) That's where I am with you.(6:50) I need the specifics. (6:51) Body fat percentage. (6:52) Yeah, yeah.(6:53) But what's the number? (6:54) You cannot handle the messy middle. (6:55) I love it.(6:56) You, you have to like. (6:57) I'm eating, I'm just going to eat pizza until we decide. (7:00) Like I'm off the fucking rails.(7:02) I don't know what's going on. (7:03) That's what happens when you don't have a goal. (7:04) It is.(7:05) I was, I was, so I, there's a pizza shop that's like three minutes down the road. (7:08) Love them. (7:09) Like every time I go in there, me and me and the owner are buddies.(7:11) That's how much I go to this place. (7:12) Usually I get a salad though, but I walked down there and I had a moment where I was like, I feel very whole as a person. (7:22) Nice.(7:24) I feel like I understand things at a greater level than I ever have. (7:28) I have money in the bank. (7:29) I feel good.(7:30) Fitness is great. (7:30) Tara and I are great. (7:31) Like I feel really good.(7:33) I feel like things are good. (7:37) But if that's the only thing that came from this.

Alan Lazaros

(7:44) Seriously, man.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:45) Hey, no, no, but I'm just saying.

Alan Lazaros

(7:46) No, no, this is good.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:47) This is exactly what it's supposed to be. (7:48) Imagine it's like, oh, it all worked. (7:51) I'm walking down the street.(7:53) I kind of like myself. (7:54) It's like, fuck yeah, this was worth it.

Alan Lazaros

(7:57) Well, I don't know why, but I feel like we're like bros in our late thirties again. (8:03) It's interesting. (8:04) It is very interesting.(8:05) Yeah. (8:06) I just had a moment where I was like, are we bro again? (8:08) Do you even bro bro?(8:10) But you're embarrassed to talk about that because that wouldn't be enough. (8:16) Is that fair for you? (8:17) That would be enough for me.(8:18) I know that sounds nuts, but it's like, that's really what I want. (8:21) I want to actually have self-respect. (8:23) I want to be in control of my own future.(8:26) I want to be able to have an abundance of health, wealth, and love. (8:30) Like I don't need that much, dude. (8:34) Now here's the thing.(8:36) I do need to be the best in the world at what I do. (8:41) I need that. (8:42) You don't care about that as much as I do.(8:43) You do and what it will get you. (8:45) But like, and that's a whole nother thing. (8:50) I don't want to go down that rabbit hole because that's not normal.(8:53) I've learned that that's all. (8:55) That's not normal. (8:55) That's not even of use to talk about.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:57) That's why I think in my mind, Jim Rohn, the Jim Rohn quote, which I know you resonate with, and I do, that was tongue-in-cheek at the beginning. (9:06) Like I do. (9:06) But you don't resonate with it as much as I do.(9:08) No, definitely not. (9:09) Now that is the thing is, dude, I don't know if I could sell it to Kevin 10 years ago. (9:15) Because everything— Kevin's values were— I think it was that, but it was all, dude, you know how many fucking goals I set and accomplished and was fucking miserable and regretful that I accomplished them?(9:25) Yeah. (9:25) Well, that's because you had terrible goals. (9:27) But how do you know?

Alan Lazaros

(9:30) I know core values and— Yeah, I mean, you didn't have to set terrible goals.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:35) You could have been wiser. (9:37) I don't think it was a terrible goal. (9:39) The bodybuilding show?(9:40) Like, I want to win the fucking show. (9:43) You think somebody starts the season and says, yeah, you know, whatever, man. (9:47) If we make it to the Super Bowl and lose, like, we'll learn some valuable lessons.(9:49) Fuck no. (9:50) People get fired over that. (9:51) No.

Alan Lazaros

(9:52) Yes, and if you go for the championship and you don't win it— I coached basketball eighth graders when I was in high school. (10:02) And we made it to the finals and we fucking lost, man. (10:06) It was so bad.(10:08) It was— Honestly, it was devastating. (10:10) One of our best players got injured. (10:12) Oh, it was tough.(10:13) It was tough for me. (10:15) And I was like, fuck, you know, that whole season. (10:18) But then you sit with it and you go, well, I made some great relationships.(10:22) I learned how to lead kids. (10:24) I, you know, it wasn't for nothing. (10:28) If that's the case, no one should ever go for anything.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:32) No, I know. (10:33) You're right. (10:34) Okay, the goal needs to be— I don't want that to be the episode, though, where it seems like I'm not for this.(10:40) No, you are.

Alan Lazaros

(10:41) I think that you— It's almost like, I think you're probably more accurate with what people should shoot for.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:51) I think the byproduct has to be— We literally, last night, just canned an entire department. (11:00) We did? (11:01) Yeah.(11:02) You and I? (11:02) Oh, yeah, yeah. (11:03) Yeah, we did.(11:03) And one of the things I said was like, dude, it's gone. (11:06) It's done. (11:07) It's already done.(11:08) In my mind, it's like, it's not— Yeah, there's given me a ton of learning and byproducts. (11:12) It's not worth it. (11:13) It's not worth it.(11:15) The upside of what we will learn is not worth the detriment that we will have to experience in order to learn it. (11:22) Agreed. (11:24) However, everything's an experiment.

Alan Lazaros

(11:25) We had to give that a shot. (11:26) For sure. (11:27) Well, that experiment, you know, what are we doing?(11:31) Well, we've done it too many times.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:32) Yeah, if you put your hand on the stove the first time and it burns the shit out of it, it's like, it probably, it's going to do it again, probably. (11:40) You know? (11:42) Okay.

Alan Lazaros

(11:42) All right, back to the core. (11:44) Back to the core of the episode. (11:45) All right, we got 10 minutes.(11:49) Goal setting. (11:51) Let's do this. (11:51) Back and forth, why does it matter that you have goals?(11:55) I don't even know if I care anymore. (11:57) The size, the scope, the time, like you need goals. (12:00) I can tell when I'm around someone without goals.(12:04) I can tell. (12:05) I can see it in your tempo. (12:06) I was on the treadmill the other day and I was looking outside and I was watching everyone's tempo and I was seeing how up against the wall they are.(12:17) I have one client who is two days away from the series 24. (12:22) It's a really intense finance license and he's just in the pressure cooker. (12:28) The dude just hates his life right now and I totally get it.(12:32) Of course, two days out from anything important, you just hate your life and you look at other people and you go, wow, it must be nice to not be under so much pressure. (12:40) But then you look at their life and go, oh, pressure creates diamonds and if you're never under pressure, you're never growing. (12:47) And if you never grow, you can't really achieve that much.(12:51) So this client of mine is very successful, like very 1%. (12:55) He's very successful. (12:57) He's wealthy for sure and getting wealthier.(13:02) You can't just like wish things were nice all the time and also achieve great things. (13:07) So you have to choose. (13:08) I'd rather have pressure constantly and be like envious of people frolicking or I want to be complacent and know that I'm not going to achieve my goals and dreams and most likely not have a lot of self-respect.(13:23) You have more self-respect now than ever. (13:25) You've been investing in the self-respect account for nine years. (13:28) Of course, you're going to feel good about yourself.(13:29) You do hard shit every day that sucks. (13:33) That's how you get self-respect and I didn't make these rules. (13:36) These are like fundamentals that happen for all of us.(13:38) Now, the scope, the timeline, the capabilities, the arenas, the industry, the core values, the goals, those are all different, but the principle is the same. (13:45) You can't build self-respect doing easy shit.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:49) No, I agree with that for sure. (13:52) I don't, I, of course goals are important. (13:55) Of course, because it forces you to do things outside the normal, outside your normal.(14:00) It forces you to expand what normal is to you. (14:03) What you do most frequently is going to change depending on what the goal is. (14:06) That's the simplest, your habits are going to have to change.(14:08) Let's go through what are the reasons you think someone should set a goal?

Alan Lazaros

(14:12) We both agree goals are important. (14:13) I don't think we agree on the reasons.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:16) I think I have a much small, I have like a much more micro perspective on it. (14:22) Yeah, that's fine. (14:22) Because yours is practical and mine is theoretical.(14:28) I feel like mine is, yeah, maybe it's probably too practical. (14:31) Honestly, I'm not saying it's, I, mine's not optimal. (14:32) I'm not saying that.(14:34) The lessons you, the byproducts you learn are only as valuable as what you do with them the next time you set a goal. (14:39) And I think some people set a goal, the byproduct isn't high enough, and then they don't set another one. (14:44) That.(14:45) So I'm just saying be careful if the, the byproduct to me should be an added benefit, not the main course.

Alan Lazaros

(14:54) Reason for setting the goal?

Kevin Palmieri

(14:55) Yeah. (14:56) I don't think it's enough. (14:58) I think a lot of us have, I have emotions tied up in my goals.

Alan Lazaros

(15:01) Most of the things people want though are byproducts. (15:04) Like you walking down the street feeling good about yourself is a byproduct of all your other goals. (15:08) Yeah, but I don't know if I ever like, that was a goal.(15:11) Yeah, it wasn't, but it could be now. (15:13) Well, I know, but now you're wiser. (15:15) Now you get it.(15:15) Like that's the real reason. (15:17) Like you get one life. (15:20) Why not make it fucking magnificent?(15:23) I concur. (15:23) To me, and again, that sounds very fortune cookie. (15:26) Well, how do you do that?(15:27) Will you set meaningful goals in alignment with your core values? (15:30) Well, how do you do that? (15:31) You learn your core values.(15:31) Well, how do you do that? (15:33) You read, you learn, you study, you listen to podcasts, particularly this one. (15:37) Like, and I mean that too.(15:38) I've been listening to some other shows. (15:39) They are not good, not helpful. (15:42) You know, my truth is they're not nearly as helpful.(15:46) It's like, oh, I don't like this term. (15:53) Mental masturbation. (15:54) I'm not a huge fan of that term, but I do get that people do that constantly.(15:59) It's like, yo, it's not the next YouTube video. (16:01) That's going to like help you. (16:02) It's not the next Instagram fucking quote.(16:04) That's going to help you. (16:05) Like I've been thinking a lot about the dirt in the clouds lately, because I seem to live in the clouds. (16:13) I'm theorizing a lot and I'm strategizing a lot.(16:17) You have a client and I have a client, mutual client that, you know, you mastermind for three hours. (16:22) You've got two pieces of content. (16:23) And the truth is he's in the dirt a lot too, though.(16:26) He's not just theorizing. (16:28) And I think a lot of people live in the clouds. (16:32) We in Movie Club, Evolve Movie Club, we watched Walter Mitty, the something imagination of Walter Mitty.(16:38) It's not my favorite film in the world, but it was, he basically daydreams. (16:41) It's with Ben Stiller. (16:42) Really funny.(16:43) I've never seen it, but I've heard of it. (16:44) Yeah. (16:45) And he daydreams all the time.(16:46) And in Movie Club, there was a moment where I was like, Oh, mental creation to physical action. (16:54) I do that really fast. (16:56) Like I told you earlier about a book I'm going to write.(16:59) I'm not writing it yet, but I'm not going to dream about that forever and not do it. (17:04) You know? (17:05) And in that Movie Club, I realized in that moment, I was like, I think there's a lot of people who like daydream and then like don't act on them.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:12) For sure. (17:14) It's not, there's, I don't even think it's, I don't think you're dreaming of writing a book. (17:18) It's already, it's done.(17:20) Yeah, it's different.

Alan Lazaros

(17:21) It's a matter of time. (17:23) Okay. (17:23) What does that even mean though?(17:25) Because now I sound like a, like I'm full of shit. (17:27) Like, how do you know I'm not full of it with that?

Kevin Palmieri

(17:29) By the patterns and the proof in the past. (17:32) A lot of people do think you're full of shit. (17:34) That's what I've been saying.(17:34) You can't say what you're, you can say what you've done. (17:37) You can't say what you're going to do because it takes a certain type of person that also thinks the way you do to say like, Oh, fuck it. (17:43) Good for you.(17:43) Let me know when it comes up. (17:45) I can't wait. (17:46) Can't wait to read it.(17:48) Seeing is believing for most, for most people, for myself included, for the vast majority. (17:55) Imagination is the first step. (17:57) I know, I know.(17:58) But I, I think the imagination. (18:00) Did you not imagine winning the show first? (18:02) No, I imagined getting smoked and laughed off the fucking stage.(18:07) Seriously? (18:08) Yes. (18:09) That's, I don't know if I've ever imagined giving a good speech.(18:13) I imagine the opposite. (18:15) It creates massive pain. (18:16) And then I try to do the opposite of it.(18:18) Whoa.

Alan Lazaros

(18:19) I need to know how many people resonate with that. (18:23) I imagined holding that trophy up years before. (18:26) It took me longer than I thought, but well, yeah, of course.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:29) Everything we are experiencing, I imagined it. (18:32) I think this, these, this is one of those episodes where it's like, it just number one highlights how different you and I are in the best ways. (18:39) Because I think you were going to be the type of, like the type of Jim Rohn saying those quotes.(18:44) And I was always going to be the guy behind the scenes like, what the fuck is this guy saying? (18:48) What the fuck are you even talking about? (18:49) You know what I was thinking?

Alan Lazaros

(18:51) I remember, I always thought this. (18:52) I love Jim Rohn. (18:53) Like he, RIP, great speaker.(18:56) Why aren't you in better shape? (18:58) I remember thinking that, like, if you're so dialed in, like, why are you so out of shape? (19:02) You know, it doesn't make any sense to me.(19:04) Some of these, some of these speakers that are so dialed in, it's like, if you're so dialed in, why are you so out of shape? (19:11) Like that never clicked for me. (19:13) I don't think it's a core value.(19:14) Dude, can you imagine if I was talking about discipline and consistency and getting after it and I never went to the gym?

Kevin Palmieri

(19:20) I can because I think it's extremely common. (19:22) Yeah, of course. (19:24) Of course, like not you personally, but it's not, it doesn't surprise me when somebody does that.

Alan Lazaros

(19:28) Well, isn't there some level of like lack of accountability there? (19:32) It's like you're talking about self-discipline. (19:34) I remember I would take productivity trainings.(19:37) One of the things I like about Darren Hardy, uh, he has a productivity course that I bought and, and I just like that he's in great shape because he's like walking his talk. (19:47) You know, can you imagine a time management seminar by someone who like can't find time for the gym? (19:52) You know, it's, it's, it's very hard for me to consider you credible.(19:59) If you don't walk your talk in all areas, not just one.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:03) I'm going to fuck you up with the truth. (20:04) A lot of people do what they can monetize, not what they've mastered. (20:06) They teach what they can monetize, not what they've mastered.(20:09) Most people that is like not okay. (20:13) That's like, it's, I'm not saying, yeah, no, it's not, but it's easier. (20:17) It's easier than ever to do that.(20:19) The only reason I'm even talking about money now is because I have my own money and I get to do with it what I please. (20:27) And it's up to me whether or not I sink or swim.

Alan Lazaros

(20:29) Yeah. (20:30) It's the only reason. (20:32) Okay.(20:32) Well, back to the original point. (20:34) Goals and by-products and self-belief and mental creation to physical action. (20:40) Does that even land?(20:42) Like you always create it first in your mind before you do it in.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:45) I think it's a motivational thought for a lot of people, but for me, that doesn't land. (20:53) I don't know. (20:54) You just bought podcast equipment before you imagined what it would be like?(20:56) Of course. (20:57) What? (20:58) Yeah, man.(20:58) Yeah. (20:59) I bought it and I was like, I, when I have an idea, I just do it. (21:02) I don't think about how to do it.(21:04) I just, I just try to do it. (21:06) Hell yeah. (21:07) I'm going to imagine it all first.

Alan Lazaros

(21:10) This is called projection and simulation. (21:14) I simulate everything in advance. (21:16) I simulated what it would be like with Amelia before I was with her.(21:19) I was, and then I was off, obviously certain things are different, but it's not like you have to do everything. (21:24) You don't have to like get hit by a car to figure out what that would be like. (21:27) You can just simulate it.(21:29) Like, wow, that's a, that's a very common thing. (21:32) Okay.

Kevin Palmieri

(21:35) How do you simulate everything? (21:37) We should. (21:37) But I think you have a very high awareness of most things, right?(21:41) Like you have a very high awareness. (21:43) But I did this even when I was a kid. (21:45) I think you probably still had a higher awareness than you thought.(21:48) Again, not to minimize, not to minimize.

Alan Lazaros

(21:50) And again, you're never fully accurate. (21:52) It's not like I'm simulating perfectly, but I don't have to go to Ireland to simulate what it would be like in Ireland. (21:59) You can just walk through Ireland.(22:01) Yeah. (22:01) But if you have never, it's very green. (22:02) If you had never seen a video in Ireland, how could you?(22:05) No, you couldn't. (22:06) You have to piece data together. (22:07) Damn.(22:08) There was, um, we were watching a show called Seal Team and they were in a country I'd never seen before. (22:12) And you should have seen my reaction. (22:14) I was like, where is this?(22:16) It's like, I've never seen this before. (22:17) And it's, um, I'm going to forget. (22:20) It's not Syria.(22:21) It's, uh, Siberia, maybe. (22:23) It was, it was surprising that I had never seen this place. (22:27) I, and again, we'll go quick with this, but you can look all these places up.(22:32) Like I didn't, people think I live in mass because I was born and raised here. (22:35) I live in mass because I like it best based on all the simulations all over the world. (22:41) Like you can simulate living anywhere you want.(22:44) You just look it up. (22:44) Go on YouTube. (22:45) Emilia and I have a 115 inch.(22:47) We traveled the whole world. (22:49) We didn't just like land on mass. (22:53) You know what I mean?(22:53) Like, why do you live in New Hampshire?

Kevin Palmieri

(22:55) You can't give me 25 reasons why. (22:56) Fuck no. (22:57) I can give you two.(22:57) It's cheaper. (22:58) It's cheaper than living in mass. (22:59) And it's close to my wife's family.(23:02) Okay. (23:03) Geez.

Alan Lazaros

(23:04) And I'm sorry. (23:05) You need to have like more than that. (23:07) You don't make a life decision on fucking two reasons.(23:12) I think this is, you are projecting your projections for sure. (23:16) This is a skill. (23:18) It's a contemplate.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:19) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(23:19) Simulation and contemplation. (23:20) Yeah. (23:20) You can, you can simulate, you know, that's how I chose careers.(23:24) I like simulated all of them. (23:26) You know, like I thought, okay, lawyer. (23:28) Okay.(23:28) Interesting. (23:28) Right. (23:29) And then you go through all of them.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:31) You believe you could do all of them.

Alan Lazaros

(23:32) Yeah, of course. (23:33) Maybe if you don't believe you don't simulate, is that? (23:36) I don't think you don't prepare that part of your brain.(23:38) It seems like you're making it up.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:40) It's like, what would it be like to be a fucking astronaut? (23:43) Of course.

Alan Lazaros

(23:44) You've never done that? (23:45) I've done that.

Kevin Palmieri

(23:46) Have you done that? (23:47) What the fuck?

Alan Lazaros

(23:48) Have you not done that? (23:49) No, no. (23:51) When you're a kid, you simulate being a fireman.(23:53) You simulate being a police, the military astronaut. (23:56) Of course. (23:57) Well, I, I, maybe I don't, what's the difference?(23:59) You don't have to drive to imagine what it might be like. (24:02) Yeah, yeah. (24:03) But it's way different than you think.(24:05) Yeah, yeah. (24:06) But there's a percent error. (24:07) I think some people are way more off.(24:09) Like podcasting is definitely different than I thought, but not that different.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:13) I remember the first time my mom let me drive the car. (24:15) I was like, holy shit. (24:17) This is, whoa, this is way harder than I thought it was going to be.(24:22) Yeah, yeah, yeah. (24:22) I was mind blown. (24:25) No, no, no.

Alan Lazaros

(24:25) I didn't learn anything.

Kevin Palmieri

(24:26) I did a stick shift on my first one. (24:27) That's terrible. (24:28) Brutal.(24:28) Yeah, dude. (24:29) I can only imagine. (24:30) Yeah.(24:30) All right. (24:31) We got to go because you're, you're going to be late for your thing. (24:33) I have to simulate my next coaching session.(24:35) I can simulate. (24:36) It's going to be, you're going to be late. (24:37) I've simulated it.(24:38) I've simulated it too. (24:39) If you're out there, figure out what of what we talked about you resonate with. (24:43) I, I feel like the by-product can't be the main goal.(24:47) I think it's a sweetener, but I don't know. (24:49) I set a goal because I want to accomplish the goal. (24:51) I've learned and I've been conditioned now and more rewired to understand.(24:54) Like there are 15 things that are positive about this, even if you don't get the goal. (24:57) But in the beginning, that was not the reason for me to set the goal. (25:00) So do with that information, what you will, whether you're watching or listening, reach out to Alan for coaching, Next Level Fitness Accountability Group and WhatsApp, all that happy jazz.(25:07) As always, we love you. (25:08) Appreciate you. (25:09) Grateful for each and every one of you.(25:10) If you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we'll be here every single day to help you get there. (25:16) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (25:19) Next Level Nation.(25:20) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University. (25:24) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(25:27) We mean it when we say family. (25:29) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (25:32) Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.

Kevin Palmieri

(25:36) Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.