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What Are You Running From (2462)

Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros

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The burden you avoid becomes the life you repeat. In this episode, Kevin and Alan talk about what people are really running from when success feels heavy, burnout feels normal, and escape starts looking like freedom. They get into responsibility, self-awareness, fulfillment, fear of judgment, and the danger of building a life around someone else’s strategy. Because sometimes the problem is not your discipline. It is the direction you keep forcing yourself to follow. Look at the thing you keep dodging. It probably has your name on the lease.

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Show notes:
(2:30) Burnout, escape, and misalignment
(4:03) When outside advice stops working
(5:39) Success without fulfillment
(6:02) The responsibility behind success
(11:17) Running from judgment and rejection
(16:07) Accepting fear before performance
(20:09) Facing what you keep avoiding
(21:10) Outro

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Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) One of my clients said, hey, I'm gonna buy a motorcycle and I said you are absolutely not under any circumstances going to buy a motorcycle like I have no idea where did this even come from? (0:10) Why are you running from whatever it is you're running from? (0:13) Oh, you know, I'm gonna get in a new relationship.(0:15) It's like that's a terrible idea. (0:16) This is these are all not very good ideas based on the fact that you are overwhelmed. (0:20) You're stressed out.(0:21) You feel like you're not winning at life and you are trying to run from something. (0:24) We just have to figure out what that something is. (0:27) The gold is buried where you least want to dig.

Alan Lazaros

(0:30) That's a principle that applies to all of us. (0:32) Want, love, hate framework I created. (0:34) I want more clients.(0:36) I love one on one coaching. (0:37) I hate social media. (0:39) Own the thing that you don't want to do except that you don't want to do it and then fucking do it anyway like an adult.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:45) Welcome to Next Level University. (0:48) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:50) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazaros.(0:53) At NLU, we believe in a heart driven but no BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

(0:59) Our goal with every episode is to help you level up your life, love, health and wealth.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:06) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

(1:22) Self-improvement, in your pocket, every day, from anywhere, completely free. (1:28) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:34) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2462. (1:38) What are you running from? (1:42) This was the same client, back to back episodes.(1:45) That's how special of a client this person is.

Alan Lazaros

(1:47) They get put in two episodes. (1:48) You opened with the motorcycle thing on the last episode and then didn't end with it. (1:52) That is called a cliffhanger.(1:54) Yeah, which you broke in Promises.

Kevin Palmieri

(1:56) No, no, it's a long cliff. (1:57) It's a big cliff. (1:58) Oh, okay.(1:59) Yeah, a big cliff. (1:59) Two episode cliff. (2:00) That's world class shit.(2:01) You have to have skills to do that. (2:04) Or you just forgot. (2:05) No, no, I didn't forget.(2:06) When I said it, I was like, well, that's actually the next episode, so I don't ... (2:09) I'm just going to ... (2:09) Okay, so you made a mistake.(2:11) Yeah, yeah. (2:11) Oh, yeah, of course. (2:12) I make mistakes all the time.

Alan Lazaros

(2:13) Nice.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:13) I'm not perfect. (2:14) I'm not a perfect man.

Alan Lazaros

(2:15) No, but you were never going to tell us you made that mistake.

Kevin Palmieri

(2:21) No, but why would you? (2:22) Now you called me out. (2:23) Now everybody knows I'm a fucking loser.(2:25) And now I'm going to have to claw my way back to add value in this episode. (2:29) So, again, this client and I have a really good relationship, and I don't even know what coaching I do. (2:34) Sometimes it's like business type stuff.(2:36) Other times it's like personal stuff.

Alan Lazaros

(2:37) You mean with her?

Kevin Palmieri

(2:38) Yeah. (2:38) In general, I do all sorts of coaching now. (2:40) It's weird, right?(2:42) I'm like speaking, podcasting. (2:43) I do a lot of different ... (2:44) depends on the person.(2:47) The friend that might help you get better. (2:48) Yeah, pretty much. (2:49) Well, it is with her.(2:51) She said, you're the best listener in the world. (2:52) It's like, I don't know if I'd put that on a business card, but I appreciate that. (2:54) Thank you.(2:55) Thank you for that. (2:58) Our call yesterday, it was just all internal stuff. (3:03) And she was talking about how she's like, I just don't ...(3:07) I'm just burnt out. (3:08) And I'm not excited by any of the things I'm usually excited about. (3:12) And I just find myself, like every weekend, I just want to run away.(3:16) I just want to run away. (3:17) I just want to run away. (3:18) I just want to run away.(3:19) I don't even want to be in the city that I live in. (3:21) I just want to run away. (3:22) And we dug and we dug and we dug and we dug.(3:25) And it got to the point where she was like, I just ... (3:28) the things that I'm doing in order to grow my business are number one, not sustainable. (3:34) Number two, from an internal perspective, they just don't fill me up.(3:41) I don't enjoy anything I'm doing anymore. (3:43) I was like, well, that's a problem, obviously. (3:45) I'm wildly unfulfilled.(3:47) I'm just looking for ways out. (3:50) And we kept digging and we kept digging and we kept digging. (3:52) And I think what we got to try ...(3:55) I'm kidding. (3:56) Oh, that was a piece of it in the previous episode. (3:59) What we got to is you have to stop listening to what everybody else tells you.(4:03) What you're running from is what everybody else is telling you to do when you know what to do. (4:07) You know exactly what to do. (4:09) How many times have we been on these calls where I say, get rid of the fucking coach for a minute.(4:14) Get rid of the fucking consultant for a minute. (4:16) What would you do? (4:19) Oh, this is what I would do.(4:20) Go do that. (4:21) And then we come back and then that person has results in their way that they actually enjoy doing. (4:25) Okay, every time we lose sight of that, you find yourself extremely miserable.(4:29) That was one piece. (4:31) And then the second piece was like, it's not super ... (4:34) it doesn't matter.(4:35) It's not relevant necessarily to the episode, to you watching or listening. (4:38) But what she was doing on social media was just burning her out. (4:41) She was running from the thing that everybody told her she had to do when she knew that she had better ways that were more aligned for her.(4:49) And I think, I don't know, I think that's why advice is so challenging. (4:52) Because the truth is, to Alan's point, you are going to have to do a lot of shit that you don't like. (4:57) Of course.(4:58) Just like this client does. (4:58) She's still doing shit she doesn't like.

Alan Lazaros

(4:59) But don't design your career around it. (5:01) It was designed. (5:03) It was literally like, this is how you're ...(5:04) It shouldn't be your main thing. (5:05) The main thing should be something that is meaningful.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:08) Yeah, but I think what happens is ...

Alan Lazaros

(5:11) You make money doing the thing that's not meaningful. (5:13) And then you keep doing more of that.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:16) Or, and again, I have to give credit to you for this, because I think you walk this line really well. (5:20) You find someone that is coaching you and they just say like, oh, everything's going to suck all the time, forever. (5:27) There's no like, how fulfilled are you?(5:30) I don't think that's a question that most people ask. (5:33) And it was essentially that. (5:34) Like, are you fulfilled at all?(5:36) And she's like, no, no, this is fucking terrible. (5:37) It's like, okay, well something needs to change then, obviously.

Alan Lazaros

(5:39) Is she more successful externally than ever? (5:41) Yeah. (5:43) Then that means that that success is short-lived, because you can't spend the rest of your life unfulfilled.

Kevin Palmieri

(5:49) It's almost like she's running from the responsibility of success. (5:52) Because the responsibility of success is not the way she ... (5:55) It's not sustainable for her.

Alan Lazaros

(5:56) Yeah, and the more successful she becomes in that narrow regard, the worse it gets. (6:00) The worse it will get. (6:02) Yeah, because success, whether you ...(6:04) People don't want this, but I coach a CEO. (6:09) And at this point, he runs the company, but doesn't have to do anything in the company. (6:14) Right?(6:14) But he still has to track and make sure everyone else is doing it. (6:18) So there is no like, oh, I'm going to just self-manage the company. (6:25) The company's going to run itself.(6:27) It's going to be great. (6:27) It's like him and I are every week looking at what's wrong. (6:32) This team member ...(6:33) It's ... (6:35) What do I want to share here? (6:36) There's responsibility underneath all success that someone is shouldering.(6:41) Someone is shouldering. (6:42) And there's very few situations where you can have external success without responsibility underneath that iceberg. (6:50) Almost none.(6:51) Can you think of any? (6:53) I mean, think about it, right? (6:54) Even if you're a politician who has a salary, there's burden with everything.(6:59) There is no burdenless money. (7:02) I mean, inheritance, but there's still burdens. (7:05) That's still burdened.(7:06) Less, maybe. (7:08) We'll put it this way. (7:09) Maybe if you inherit money and then aren't going to build it and grow it, then there's no burden.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:14) Yeah, but there still is. (7:15) You're public, maybe. (7:17) Maybe people know who you are even though that's a burden.

Alan Lazaros

(7:21) Yeah. (7:22) Right? (7:22) But it's ...(7:24) I think anything that is building has burden underneath it. (7:29) I think that's what ... (7:30) And I know that's not the point of this episode that you wanted to do, but responsibility is underneath every iceberg if the top of the iceberg is external success.(7:41) Even if it's not you shouldering the responsibility.

Kevin Palmieri

(7:44) That wasn't the point, but I think that is probably one of the things ... (7:50) I would kick this to you. (7:51) I guess we're going to do a couple top threes in a row, which I enjoy.(7:54) I like top threes. (7:57) Top three things people are running from.

Alan Lazaros

(8:01) Responsibility is one of them. (8:02) Got to be, right? (8:02) Yeah.(8:03) Which I think is a huge L. (8:06) We've talked a lot about the core wounds, and I have three main ones that I use before I coach anybody now. (8:12) I need to know your core wound because otherwise you're going to ...(8:15) I'm going to coach you wrong, quite frankly. (8:17) I'm just going to coach you wrong. (8:19) If you have my core wound, you don't mind responsibility at all.(8:23) You take on too much of it. (8:26) If you are your core wound, you don't like responsibility. (8:31) Responsibility is the necessary burden that you take on to try to get financial freedom, even though it's not real.(8:37) Then you tolerate it. (8:38) Then there's another core wound that wants no responsibility. (8:41) They convince themselves that responsibility is bad, and that's why they never really get better because pressure is what creates diamonds.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:47) When are we going to do an episode on the core wounds? (8:49) We've done it before in the past. (8:51) Yeah, but not to the degree.(8:52) There's been a lot of revelations.

Alan Lazaros

(8:55) You should do it. (8:56) I'm game if you want to do it at the end of the day. (8:57) I'm not going to force it on anybody.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:59) I think it's valuable.

Alan Lazaros

(9:01) I think my concern is I use it for me. (9:08) I don't even know if I care if anyone else learns it. (9:11) If it's going to be helpful, that's fine, but I don't have enough research to back it where I would— I don't have enough of a platform or research to back it up yet.(9:24) I'm working on it. (9:25) To where I would create it as a framework to have other people use on my behalf. (9:30) This is something that I use to make my life work, and it's in that first phase.(9:35) It wouldn't exist. (9:37) There's only one other person who I think should use it. (9:39) It's Amy.(9:40) She's a next-level certified coach, and she and I have done hours upon hours, probably 100-plus hours just masterminding about this over the years. (9:51) Her and I understand it well enough to where I think we can use it effectively without it being constructive. (9:57) I think my reluctance— Yeah, we just do a disclaimer and just say, yeah, this is my own coaching modality.(10:04) This is not rooted in any official thing. (10:06) I just studied all the modalities of therapy, ACT, DBT, IFS, CBT, and basically every— Hexaco and DISC and all that other— Neogram. (10:16) And I just was like, ah, these are— No, these aren't it.(10:19) This isn't it for me. (10:20) Hexaco, I think, is the best, but I think mine's better, and it's more effective for me, and I do think it's good, but yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:27) Well, that would be the disclaimer, is take from this what you will, and I think it's super valuable. (10:33) From what I've learned about it, it's super valuable. (10:35) I feel like I understand myself at a deeper level because of it, so that would be the goal.(10:39) That means a lot. (10:40) That's great.

Alan Lazaros

(10:40) Yeah, that would be the goal.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:41) Yeah, for sure. (10:42) You and Taryn have the same core wound. (10:43) That's why you guys work.(10:45) Well, in the episode, we can go into all that. (10:47) Right now, you don't fucking know what that means, most likely. (10:49) Okay, top three things people are running from.(10:51) Good, sir. (10:51) Responsibility is one of them. (10:53) Yep.(10:55) What's under responsibility? (10:59) Because I know what mine is.

Alan Lazaros

(11:02) Commitment. (11:03) Lack of freedom. (11:05) Lack of autonomy.(11:07) Feeling like you don't have a choice is underneath responsibility, or you don't believe you can handle it. (11:15) Pressure. (11:16) Lack of freedom.(11:17) What else are we running from? (11:18) We're running from ... (11:21) So my core wound, you're running from social pain.(11:24) Always. (11:25) Always. (11:27) Always.(11:27) I think if you are the core wound of the defective or not good enough, is what I would say for this one, you're running from your own inadequacies. (11:41) You're trying really hard to avoid any indicator that you are inadequate, which actually makes you less adequate. (11:50) All of these core wounds perpetuate themselves.(11:53) And then yours is responsibility. (11:54) You take responsibility, but you don't like it. (11:57) That's the difference between me and you.(11:58) I have a huge advantage over you. (11:59) I'm going to share this just publicly. (12:01) I have a huge advantage over Kev when it comes to success.(12:04) And I hope this lands for you if you're listening, if you don't identify with me at all. (12:07) I want to work for the rest of my life. (12:10) Every day.(12:11) That's a huge advantage over you. (12:14) You could never compete with me and win long term unless you're really gifted or really committed at an exponential level. (12:22) Because I realized this when I was coaching certain people.(12:25) They would want certain results. (12:27) And those results are very high and they require a level of work ethic that basically means you take away all your lifestyle and freedom. (12:35) And if I don't care about lifestyle and freedom almost at all, and I want to work every day for the rest of my life, genuinely, then I have a huge advantage in success.(12:44) I don't have an advantage in the social world. (12:47) Almost nothing else. (12:48) Yeah, nothing else.(12:49) Huge advantage in success. (12:51) And fulfillment too if it's work you love.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:53) Yeah, yeah, yeah. (12:54) Yeah, you have a lot of opportunity and advantage in external stuff. (12:59) The creation of things, for sure.(13:01) And with the right person.

Alan Lazaros

(13:03) Yeah, exactly. (13:04) With most relationships, not. (13:05) And that makes a lot of sense, dude.(13:07) Because success always felt really easy for me. (13:11) Relationships were always atrociously difficult and it makes perfect sense now. (13:15) Because if no one really wants to work and you want to work every day and you're overly intense and committed and you're constantly pushing people to grow that kind of want to chill and have fun, I mean, you're not going to have a good social life.(13:31) Of course not. (13:32) It makes perfect sense now. (13:34) But back in the day, I didn't get any of that.(13:35) I was just like, why? (13:37) What is the deal? (13:38) I'll share this briefly.(13:39) I know we've got to jump here in a sec. (13:40) I did a Toastmasters speech on Tuesday. (13:43) And for the first time in my life, to this layer, obviously I've done this before, it was like, oh!(13:51) Okay, I'm grateful to be here. (13:53) I have no clue why you invited me back because I was wicked intense last time. (13:58) And it's very clear that I focused way more on speaking than anyone in that room.(14:03) For sure. (14:04) Behind the scenes. (14:04) I know saying that, it's like you're not allowed to say that, but for sure.(14:08) 25 impact points of effective communication. (14:10) Every goddamn communication book I get my hands on studying Steve Jobs and Oprah Winfrey and Tony Robbins and all the speakers and Jim Rohn and Og Mandino and Bob Proctor. (14:18) I could keep going.(14:18) And so I've spent my entire adult life working on effective communication. (14:24) And reading and studying and working on it. (14:26) Deep practice.(14:27) And you and I, 2,500 episodes and all these other shows that we went on that we shouldn't even have gone on. (14:31) It was just for mastery and impact. (14:34) But we got no profitability off any of that.(14:36) Oh no, we lost money. (14:37) Yeah, we lost money for sure. (14:39) And then I get in this room and I'm sitting there going, oh, this is going to be bad.(14:43) And I said, Alan, no one here has to like you. (14:49) They're not gonna. (14:50) It's okay.(14:51) They're not gonna. (14:53) And I put up a slide. (14:54) I said, here's my disclaimers.(14:55) Thank you so much for having me. (14:56) It's honestly an honor. (14:57) I'm grateful to be back.(14:59) You don't have to like me. (15:02) I don't care if you like me. (15:03) I don't care if you like the content.(15:06) Those are my first two disclaimers. (15:07) I'm not joking. (15:09) I do want you to contemplate it.(15:12) That's all I'm asking. (15:13) I'm not asking you to like me or the content or I said I'm very coachy. (15:18) I said my business partner, there's different types of speakers.(15:21) He's the friend. (15:22) I am not the friend. (15:24) I am wicked coachy.(15:25) All right. (15:26) And I am a coach. (15:27) So just understand before we get into this, I got 30 minutes.(15:30) It's crank. (15:31) And the whole rest of the time, it was great. (15:32) But I had to sit there and go, Alan, everyone here is going to dislike you and or be triggered.(15:37) That's okay. (15:38) It's nothing to do with you. (15:39) They just are going to be faced with the fact that they are not really reaching their full potential because nobody is.(15:45) Nobody is. (15:48) And they're going to, you know, no one here is trying to speak at the level that you're trying to speak at. (15:54) And they don't care.(15:55) And that's okay. (15:56) And for some reason, when you do that acceptance piece, all of a sudden, people care more than they would have if I tried to force it. (16:04) And I forgot what my point of was this whole thing.(16:07) But all of us have to figure out what we're afraid of and then accept it in advance. (16:13) And then you're like free from it. (16:15) And then all your performance anxiety goes away.(16:17) Because I was never fearful that I wouldn't give a valuable speech. (16:21) I used to be afraid that nobody would like me and that I would trigger people and that I would be villainized and hated and that kind of thing. (16:29) And so I had to say, Alan, that's okay.(16:32) That's okay. (16:32) Like, you know that they're not going to like you because there was other speakers that went first and they were not good. (16:38) And in my opinion, not strong at all.(16:41) I think you're world class compared to them. (16:43) And it's like, of course, you're not going to be well-received here. (16:46) You know, you've studied this your entire life.(16:48) Some of these people at the very beginning, this is going to be a huge mirror. (16:51) Right? (16:51) So just, and it's 95 degrees in here.(16:53) I'm very intense. (16:55) And just own it, man. (16:56) Just own it.

Kevin Palmieri

(16:57) And you've been leaning more into that. (16:58) Like, leaning more into being you. (17:00) Yeah.(17:01) Perfect storm. (17:02) It's a perfect storm. (17:03) And that is at work.(17:05) It worked really well. (17:07) Because I think it is the like, there is power in actually not caring. (17:14) Not toxically like, fuck you, I don't care what I need.

Alan Lazaros

(17:16) Not that.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:17) But like the, I don't want to offend you. (17:20) I don't want to hurt you. (17:21) I don't want the reflection that I provide to hurt you.(17:24) That's not the goal. (17:25) But I must be who I am here. (17:28) Not toxically.(17:29) Not like, well, I am who I am wherever I go. (17:32) And if you don't like it, too bad. (17:33) It's like, well, that's, you know, that's a little much.

Alan Lazaros

(17:35) It wasn't that. (17:36) It was more like. (17:37) No, no, no.(17:39) I'm going to care about what I care about. (17:40) And I'm going to let you know what I care about. (17:43) And if you don't care about it, I understand.(17:45) Yeah. (17:45) Yeah, yeah. (17:46) I'm inviting you.(17:48) It's invitation. (17:49) It's an invite instead of a.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:50) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(17:50) And if you reject it. (17:51) You should.

Kevin Palmieri

(17:52) Yeah. (17:52) Totally fine. (17:53) I completely understand and accept that when I was younger, dude.(17:57) Really?

Alan Lazaros

(17:57) I wish I learned a lot of stuff when I was younger. (17:59) Yeah, it makes things a lot easier when you. (18:02) Because people always said detach from outcome.(18:03) First of all, that's the dumbest shit ever if it's your actual goals.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:07) Yeah, yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(18:07) But when it comes to audiences and people and people's opinions, like you, you really do have to let go of people. (18:16) Like if your goal is to get 100% of people in the room to resonate with your. (18:20) That's an impossible goal.(18:22) What a stupid fucking goal. (18:24) Like imagine me. (18:26) I'm going to try to get 100% of people to resonate with me and stay myself.(18:30) That's impossible. (18:31) That's the problem.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:33) Yeah, I think you're just you were just focusing on the wrong goal. (18:35) Yeah. (18:37) I think for a long time, my goal was like just be liked by everybody.(18:40) I think that helped me in the beginning. (18:43) I think it helped me. (18:44) Not was I actually liked by everybody because it allowed me to be more authentic.(18:49) It didn't for me. (18:50) Well, no, but it's not supposed to. (18:52) Wrong goal, man.

Alan Lazaros

(18:52) Yeah, yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:53) But I think that was I think the goal for me is yeah, but again, obviously this is specific.

Alan Lazaros

(18:58) You're the friend and I'm the coach, right? (18:59) So it makes sense. (19:01) Even your coaching doesn't sound like coaching to me.(19:03) It's like you're a great listener. (19:05) It's like nobody would say that about me. (19:07) Well, you're not a great listener.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:09) How dare you? (19:10) I listen intently. (19:11) Yeah, you are a great listener.(19:12) But like I don't interrupt people really almost at all. (19:15) Like I'm there. (19:16) I'm there to get you somewhere.

Alan Lazaros

(19:17) Right? (19:17) We're not here to hang out. (19:19) Yeah, but you can get somewhere by listening, you know?(19:21) You can, but it's you gotta you gotta push the boulder up the hill.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:25) We'll put it this way. (19:26) We'll put it this way. (19:27) There's a reason why I send like some clients I'll have like, hey, you have to talk to Alan.(19:31) And there's a percentage of clients where it's like, ah, they're just not ready for that yet. (19:35) They're not ready for that. (19:36) I am more intense than you think based on the fact that you're super intense.(19:40) It just doesn't seem that way. (19:42) I got pretty intense. (19:43) You know, I've come down.(19:45) I know you think I'm in crap.

Alan Lazaros

(19:46) I come down and I see you drawing shit out on Zoom. (19:49) It's hilarious. (19:49) It's great.(19:51) Well, hey, I do my best. (19:52) And then you were rapping with the guy.

Kevin Palmieri

(19:54) It's like, what are you doing? (19:55) Yeah, that was awesome call. (19:56) I get so nervous.(19:57) I couldn't do it. (19:57) I don't rap anymore because, well, you have to go back and figure it out. (20:00) I can't be a rapper because I fucking suck.(20:02) You know, I rap.

Alan Lazaros

(20:05) One person's opinion.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:06) I hung him up. (20:07) I hung him up. (20:07) All right, cool.(20:08) All right. (20:09) If you're trying to figure out what it is that you're running from or what it is that you want to run towards, that's a nice spin on this. (20:15) Reach out to Alan for coaching.(20:16) This is literally what he helps people do. (20:18) And like, it's very hard on a podcast episode to get to the depths, right? (20:22) Like you're running from responsibility because you're fear of disappointment because of blah, blah, blah.(20:26) Like, you know. (20:27) What's the third one?

Alan Lazaros

(20:27) I never got that. (20:29) Responsibility. (20:31) Fear.(20:32) Judgment. (20:33) Yeah. (20:34) Being yourself.(20:34) Yeah, it's responsibility. (20:36) Judgment. (20:37) Yeah.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:38) All this stuff.

Alan Lazaros

(20:39) Rejection.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:40) Embarrassment.

Alan Lazaros

(20:40) All this stuff. (20:42) All this stuff. (20:43) The shit.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:43) The shit.

Alan Lazaros

(20:44) And you have to have that in order to get to the goals.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:45) You gotta have that.

Alan Lazaros

(20:46) You gotta be able to face it.

Kevin Palmieri

(20:47) You gotta look that right in the face and do it. (20:48) 100%. (20:49) 100%.(20:50) So if you're looking to break through that, to work through that, to get through that, reach out to Alan. (20:53) He can help you. (20:54) And if one of the things you're running from is fitness, tracking your weight, looking in the mirror, whatever it is, whatever it is, Next Level Fitness Accountability Group, free WhatsApp group.(21:03) We're in there every single day. (21:05) We're cranking along. (21:06) You can be cranking along with us.(21:07) No judgment. (21:07) A safe place to be yourself. (21:08) Come on.(21:09) Come join. (21:09) Reach out to Alan and or myself. (21:11) As always, we love you.(21:12) Appreciate you. (21:12) Grateful for each and every one of you. (21:14) And if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level, make sure you tune in tomorrow because we'll be here every single day to help you get there.(21:20) Keep leveling up to reach your full potential. (21:22) Next Level Nation. (21:24) Thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level University.(21:28) We love connecting with the Next Level family.

Alan Lazaros

(21:30) We mean it when we say family. (21:32) If you ever need anything, please reach out to us directly. (21:36) Everything you need to get a hold of us is in the show notes.(21:39) Thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow.