To Implement Or Ignore? (2467)

In today’s episode of Next Level University, hosts Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros unpack why most people do not need more ideas. They need better filters, stronger focus, and the self-awareness to know what actually deserves action. Kevin reflects on nine years in business and the bad ideas he was smart enough not to chase. Alan brings in coaching patterns, performance principles, and the real cost of wasted attention to separate fantasy, imagination, visualization, action, and rumination.

This conversation is about decision-making, productivity, mindset, and the discipline to use your consciousness well. What you focus on does not just shape your day. It shapes your standards, your choices, and your future. Listen in to get better at knowing what to implement, what to ignore, and what has been quietly draining your mental battery.

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Show notes:
(3:29) Your attention has a real cost
(6:21) How to audit where your mind goes
(7:39) Rumination versus useful reflection
(13:20) Why goals need focused thought
(15:27) The invisible work behind success
(18:13) How to decide what to implement or ignore
(22:10) Fear-based thinking versus future-building
(25:31) The opportunity cost of wasted attention
(28:31) Outro

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Transcript

Kevin Palmieri

(0:00) I have had many dumb ideas. (0:03) Many, many, many, many, many. (0:06) Infinite amounts.(0:07) So many dumb ideas it would hurt your parents' feelings how many dumb ideas I've had over the last nine years in this business. (0:12) And luckily, I haven't pursued almost any of them. (0:15) Now, many times that is because Alan was like, hey man, this is fucking stupid.(0:20) And now I think I'm getting better at understanding if it's aligned, whether it's worth implementing, whether it's worth ignoring, and hopefully in this episode we can help you figure out the same decision-making matrix.

Alan Lazaros

(0:32) I don't think that it's ideas that matter. (0:36) I think it's the human being you become who can execute against those ideas consistently and adapt and evolve over time. (0:43) Welcome to Next Level University.

Kevin Palmieri

(0:46) I'm your host, Kevin Palmieri. (0:48) And I'm your co-host, Alan Lazaros. (0:51) At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no-BS approach to holistic self-improvement for dream chasers.

Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

(1:04) We bring you a new episode every single day on topics like confidence, self-belief, self-worth, self-awareness, relationships, boundaries, consistency, habits, and defining your own unique version of success.

Alan Lazaros

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Kevin Palmieri

(1:26) Welcome to Next Level University. (1:32) Next Level Nation today for episode number 2467, to Implement or Ignore. (1:37) I'm enjoying how we are talking about similar things across multiple episodes in like a weekly type cadence, but we're diving in deeper or, I don't know, re-angling from a different perspective.(1:52) Re-angling. (1:52) Re-angling if that's a word. (1:54) Why did you want to do this?(1:55) Because this was your idea. (1:56) So I messaged you a few mornings ago, I think.

Alan Lazaros

(2:02) I believe so. (2:03) And I have a new client. (2:06) Actually several, and I'm very grateful.(2:10) I want more if anyone needs a coach. (2:13) Peak performance, coaching, fitness, finance, business. (2:18) But anyways, so I've realized, we did an episode, you and I, two, three, four weeks ago.(2:25) I don't know. (2:25) Within the last month. (2:26) I know.(2:27) Within the last month. (2:28) And it was on the difference between fantasy and imagination, and the difference in imagination and visualization. (2:35) The difference in visualization and physical action.(2:39) And then we got to rumination as well. (2:41) So I'm going to go through them quickly. (2:43) Fantasy is, it's not tied to reality at all.(2:46) Imagination is, it's a little bit tied to reality, but it's way out in the future. (2:51) Visualization is, it's pretty tied to reality. (2:54) You're actually simulating doing the thing.(2:56) Hitting the baseball, driving the car, whatever. (2:59) Physical action is doing the thing. (3:01) And then rumination is, ruminating on all the things that could go wrong.(3:05) And I pulled up a list of these. (3:10) And I asked, in a given day, what percentage of you, with a client yesterday, what percentage of you is in each of these? (3:19) He had 40% on rumination.(3:21) I was like, oh, that's what we have to work on. (3:26) I want to explain this quickly. (3:29) When we look something up on ChatGPT or Claude or Grok or whatever AI you use, there's a data center somewhere that is being powered and it costs resources.(3:47) And I think it's a good metaphor to realize the same is true for your brain. (3:53) Your brain uses approximately 25% of your caloric intake. (4:00) So it's very expensive, which is also why when you're sick, you don't think as well.(4:06) Because your brain is like, yo, we got to focus on getting well. (4:09) We can't focus on these deep thoughts. (4:10) Okay.(4:11) So if you're spending 40% of your consciousness ruminating, remember when we were doing Next Level Live and you said, what if it snows? (4:19) And I was like, oh, I would never would have thought of that. (4:21) I don't spend almost any time ruminating.(4:24) Very rarely am I thinking about what could go wrong. (4:27) To a fault at times. (4:28) Okay.(4:29) Yes, you have to worry, but not to the point where it's detrimental. (4:34) So my point of this episode was, I looked this up. (4:41) For years, people repeated the claim that we have 60,000 to 70,000 thoughts per day.(4:49) Queens University estimated that the average person experiences about 6,200 distinct thought transitions per day based on brain imaging data. (4:57) So 6,200 thoughts per day. (5:01) Of those 6,200 thoughts on average, it's obviously more for others and less for others.(5:07) If you've ever met an airhead, it's less for some people. (5:10) You know, someone with an empty head. (5:12) It's just like, wow, you don't really think much, do you?(5:14) But anyways, let's say it's 6,200. (5:17) Of those 6,200 thoughts, how many of them are constructive? (5:21) How many of them are useful in your real life?(5:26) I try really hard to get the percentage up. (5:30) So I have almost 0% fantasy, not zero, because that's part of the human condition, but almost zero. (5:35) Imagination's pretty high.(5:37) Visualization is very high. (5:38) Physical action is huge. (5:40) And rumination is almost zero.(5:43) Just like chat GPT or whatever AI you use is not free, neither is your consciousness. (5:48) Your consciousness is not free. (5:49) So when I meet someone and I see that they don't think much or they think about the wrong shit, I go, oh, you cannot be successful in life without pouring into the right things.(6:01) And you can't pour into the right things in the right way in the right amount if you're not thinking about that. (6:05) So if you never think about your partner, you're going to get divorced. (6:08) If you never think about your fitness, you're not going to be fit.(6:11) If you never think about your business, you're going to go out of business. (6:14) If you never think about your future, your future is in trouble. (6:17) And so I try on this podcast to make sure everyone is thinking about the right stuff.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:21) What's the process to start identifying? (6:24) So when you ask that client, where do you live the most or where do you invest the most time or consciousness? (6:29) What is that process?(6:30) How do you know?

Alan Lazaros

(6:34) I defined them. (6:35) So rumination would be worrying about things that could go wrong. (6:39) That means you have high anxiety.

Kevin Palmieri

(6:42) Sorry, sorry to interrupt. (6:43) Rumination also reflecting on the past?

Alan Lazaros

(6:46) No, that would be more like, yeah, it can be. (6:52) Yeah, it can be. (6:53) Rumination is like useless.(6:57) There's a big difference between looking at your past to learn about yourself or about others or the world. (7:05) I was listening to a Charlie Munger speech earlier. (7:08) He did a commencement at USC a few years back.(7:12) And he said that Cicero, someone from history, Confucius or Cicero, said anyone who is born and doesn't study the past is an idiot. (7:26) Something along those lines, I'm paraphrasing. (7:28) Meaning history matters.(7:29) You need to learn history. (7:30) If you don't understand what the different centuries were about, you can't really know where we're headed in a way. (7:37) Because dots over time connect.(7:39) But my point of this is for the listeners, if you spend 50% of your day ruminating, you are wasting consciousness that could be used otherwise. (7:48) And I'm not, there is no perfect human who like doesn't ruminate. (7:52) There's no, but I will tell you that the percentage of your consciousness that you allocate to constructive visualization and action is going to increase the probability of statistical success drastically.(8:06) And if you ruminate 40%, like my client, shout out to you, brother. (8:09) I know you're listening. (8:10) You need to work on that.(8:11) Like that, that is, imagine if I have a hundred percent of me against 60% of you, because what people, I really wish this would land better. (8:21) I don't know how to explain it. (8:22) I tried it toastmasters two weeks ago, last week.(8:25) And it's like what you pay attention to you've heard this before. (8:33) It's like, I paid her no mind. (8:36) You ever have a girl, you paid way too much mind.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:38) Uh, yes.

Alan Lazaros

(8:39) Many. (8:39) Same. (8:40) Okay.(8:40) Many. (8:41) And it was like, ah, I shouldn't have done that. (8:43) What a waste of my time and consciousness.(8:45) You're just sitting there like, what if, what would she probably just, she's probably just waiting to text me back.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:51) Probably just waiting. (8:52) She's waiting.

Alan Lazaros

(8:53) She's waiting.

Kevin Palmieri

(8:54) She probably doesn't want to seem too busy. (8:56) She probably doesn't want to seem too forward. (8:58) She's going to wait like two to two to forever reality.

Alan Lazaros

(9:02) She's like with another guy, not thinking about you at all. (9:06) It's a funny joke, but the truth is, is like, if you pay too much mind, pay attention to the wrong person's places, things, and ideas, you, you cannot be successful. (9:15) And I don't think we think of it that way.(9:18) Like if, if the iPhone has a hundred percent battery per day and you can only charge it once a day, do not waste the battery on angry birds. (9:26) Let me ask you a question.

Kevin Palmieri

(9:28) Did you learn to ruminate less? (9:31) Do you feel like you naturally like what 10 year olds, Alan, 20 year old, Alan, 30 year old Alan, 37 year old Alan. (9:39) What were the percentages?

Alan Lazaros

(9:41) Uh, way less and less and less rumination over time. (9:44) But I think that the principle here, and I love the question. (9:46) This is great.(9:49) As you get older, you're supposed to get better and particularly better at a few things. (9:56) One of them is mind control. (9:59) Like, uh, when you and I are together, I'm not like thinking about, uh, what Kim Kardashian is doing.(10:06) Like you'll never hear me talking about something useless.

Kevin Palmieri

(10:09) Right.

Alan Lazaros

(10:09) And the reason why is because if I think about and talk about things that are useless, my future will be worse. (10:18) And I with one of my clients yesterday, and I said, we traveled once and I saw her scrolling on tick-tock aimlessly. (10:26) And my brain went, that's bad.(10:29) Because if, if you spend a half an hour scrolling on tick-tock aimlessly, it tells me a lot about you. (10:34) It tells me that you are not, you don't have big goals or you don't have urgency, or you, you basically are just going to put a bunch of stuff in your consciousness. (10:43) We've all been in the rabbit hole.(10:45) You put a bunch of shit in your consciousness that just messes you up. (10:49) Like, and that's why I said to the client, like playing video games first thing in the morning is a very bad use of your willpower and your consciousness. (10:55) Because unless you're, I told him this verbatim, I said, unless you're going to be a fucking pro gamer, stop.(11:01) Like we all have to grow up and we have to realize that like, if we want to be successful, you have to get better at mind control. (11:12) You have gotten so much better at this. (11:14) You used to shut down after a half an hour of deep talks.(11:17) Now you can go all fucking day without losing your ability to focus.

Kevin Palmieri

(11:21) I've been, my brain has been stretched many, many, many times over, over this journey.

Alan Lazaros

(11:27) For sure. (11:28) The bigger your goals are, the more your brain will have to focus. (11:33) So I think that you, if you don't use it, you lose it.(11:36) And your ability to focus is, is out of necessity, super good now. (11:40) So I would rather you answer like, how have you gotten your, because you, your ability to focus when we first met dude, what the fuck? (11:47) I mean, it was bad brother.(11:49) And I never told you that because I was a coward, but I thought it all the time. (11:53) It was like, dude, what are you doing on Instagram, man? (11:55) Like you're always doing useless shit.(11:57) Hello? (11:57) Yeah, of course. (11:58) Yeah.(11:58) And, and Instagram's fun and you can't win you back then that Kevin, how obvious is it that that Kevin could not win at this?

Kevin Palmieri

(12:06) Yeah.

Alan Lazaros

(12:06) Of course. (12:07) Of course. (12:07) So obvious.

Kevin Palmieri

(12:08) So, but again, you're also, we're 26, right? (12:11) Like, well, I also didn't know, right? (12:13) Like I, that's the thing is you don't, I don't know, man, you don't fucking know what people are actually doing.(12:21) Like people tell you what they did, but I don't know if that's true or not. (12:26) Cause when like people tell you, but then when you hang out with them, they're completely different. (12:29) And I'm as guilty of that as anybody.(12:30) Like I had friends where the only time ever saw them was when I was chilling and eating pizza and eating pizza. (12:37) And I'm talking about how important it is to be like fit. (12:39) It's like, I understand that.(12:41) So that's a completely different conversation, but we won't even go down that rabbit hole. (12:44) Um, dude, I don't know, man. (12:48) It's hard because I think one of the reasons I don't think about, I don't ruminate as much as I did is because I did so much in the beginning and I realized how one of the things that helped me a ton was ruminating on regret that didn't happen yet in order to be proactive enough to get good at stuff.(13:04) And like, there's, I don't, I do, I still tap into that. (13:08) I have moments where it's like, I can feel something's going to happen with this client. (13:12) I need to like, get ahead of it or it's going to be a fucking nightmare if I don't like, let me get ahead of it.(13:17) I don't know if I have a good answer for this.

Alan Lazaros

(13:20) When you set a goal, your mind is supposed to go to work on it. (13:26) The subconscious mind, the 6,200 thoughts per day, they're supposed to be focused on the goal, but it's so to the point of this episode.

Kevin Palmieri

(13:35) Yeah. (13:36) But there's a million, there's infinite things you could do. (13:39) Do you start a podcast?(13:41) Do you become a speaker? (13:42) Do you write a book? (13:43) Do you can create some sort of very unique Instagram page where you're a chef and, but also like, what do you do?(13:51) I know. (13:52) And how do you know, how do you know? (13:55) And we're going to end up doing a part two on this for sure.

Alan Lazaros

(13:58) We have thousands of opportunities each day to reinforce patterns. (14:01) Many thoughts are repetitive rather than novel, repeated thoughts, strength and neural pathways. (14:06) The other piece of this is you have to rewire your brain to like pathways that are good.(14:14) What's an irrational fear that you've had? (14:18) Planes. (14:19) Okay.(14:19) You also said opening doors and like them not opening.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:22) I still can't stand it. (14:23) I did it. (14:23) I just, I got fucked by a door recently.(14:25) I went to open that thing. (14:26) Didn't open.

Alan Lazaros

(14:27) Didn't open.

Kevin Palmieri

(14:28) Damn.

Alan Lazaros

(14:28) And nothing happened. (14:29) You're fine. (14:30) Internally I wasn't for a minute.(14:32) So imagine you have a hundred percent battery life when you, your brain battery in a metaphor, in this metaphor, it's not exactly this way, but metaphor. (14:41) And you're, you're worrying about the next door you're going to open. (14:47) That is that same brain power could be used to get your next client or to serve an existing client or to be thoughtful for Taryn or to be in the gym and designing a workout.(15:00) Like consciousness is not infinite. (15:03) It's semi finite, meaning it grows over time. (15:06) Cause your brain gets better.(15:07) It's not like an iPhone that gets worse. (15:09) Like you buy a computer and it's like, it's somehow, how does this thing get worse and worse over the years? (15:14) Not only is everything else getting better.(15:15) So in comparison, it's worse, but it's also getting dusty and it's degrading, right? (15:20) With the brain, it gets better and better and better. (15:22) The more you use it.(15:23) The problem is if you use it to ruminate, it gets better. (15:27) So you have to, and this is something that you can't see. (15:30) This is called cognitive labor.(15:31) There's four different types of cognitive labor. (15:33) I'm not going to get into it, but when you and I got Kevin and I got in a little argument that we were on air and we didn't release the episode cause it was of zero value, but it was about productivity. (15:46) And I found out why I got so mad at you.(15:49) Cause you think I'm reactive. (15:53) Cognitive labor that I've done to get us here. (15:56) I feel, I felt so unseen.(15:59) And basically the whole episode was me just defending myself. (16:03) It's like an insecure kid in high school who saw someone saw he had pit stains. (16:07) It's like, no, I have like six types of deodorant.(16:09) That was the example. (16:10) But the truth is, is I got, I got very upset with you because it was like, dude, are you kidding me? (16:17) I know that it might seem like we've just like, ah, things worked out.(16:21) Like, dude, the, the cognitive labor that I am doing every day to make sure everything goes, it's like, it's hidden. (16:29) It's called invisible work. (16:32) 90% of the work I've done for this company, you've never seen.(16:37) No one has. (16:37) I wake up in the morning and go to bed at night thinking about how to succeed 24 seven, three 65. (16:44) That's why my clients succeed.(16:46) I'm doing cognitive labor for them. (16:48) I'm thinking about their success more than them sometimes. (16:52) And then they show up to the call and I have all these things to tell them.(16:55) And they're like, wow, you really prepared. (16:56) No, I didn't. (16:57) My brain is working on how to make you successful.(17:00) And by the way, it can't work if you don't fucking work. (17:03) Right? (17:04) So of course I get frustrated if they don't have work, right?(17:06) So do not work with me. (17:07) If you don't have work ethic, cause it will not work. (17:09) But at the end of the day, the point of this episode is if you have a thousand thoughts a day, how many of those are constructive and how many of them are dumb, like fantasy, silly, what you pay attention to does change your life.(17:27) We just can't see that. (17:28) Now. (17:29) I imagined all of this before it became a reality all of it.(17:33) Some of it's different than I originally imagined, but I had to re-imagine re-imagine, re-imagine, re-imagine, re-imagine, re-visualize, re-visualize, re-visualize, re-visualize restrategize, restrategize, restrategize, restrategize retake action, retake action, retake action, retake action every single day for 11 years. (17:49) A lot of what we've made happen in real life. (17:52) I thought about 11 years ago.(17:54) And some of the things we've made happen. (17:55) I thought about 25 years ago and I told you the first trillionaire would happen and that just happened and I'm not a fan but at the end of the day I'm always thinking about the future and you will be successful to the extent that you focus on constructive ways to build your future.

Kevin Palmieri

(18:13) All right we're going to put a pin in it because we're going to do a part two on this but (18:15) I in part two my goal would be to really figure out how do you know what to implement how (18:20) do you know what to ignore obviously in the buckets that's obvious right probably maybe (18:25) not ignore but do you whatever you can't just ignore rumination like there has to be (18:29) a level of construction from it like pattern recognition last time I did this things went (18:36) horribly wrong let me take that and put it into the future you know what I mean it's (18:43) like reallocation can be constructive in probably very small amounts right yeah if you're eighty (18:49) percent there it's obviously not going to it's not great for you but if you're if you (18:53) have five percent rumination that's really focused on how do you avoid past problems (18:58) in the future I think that's probably a good thing yeah what are your percentages I definitely (19:05) have more fantasy than you for sure it's less than ever because I don't really care like (19:09) I used to I don't know I'd have to think about it I'd have to think about it ruminations (19:15) way less than ever when you said the average it's like 6,500 thoughts a day it's like there's (19:21) no way I have that many thoughts there's not a chance well these are subconscious well

Alan Lazaros

(19:27) I don't think so for me conscious thoughts are 6,200 yeah there's no subconscious is

Kevin Palmieri

(19:36) anywhere from 60,000 so many of my thoughts are like stacked it's like it's all in on

Alan Lazaros

(19:42) one thing it's like okay I do think you have less than I do I know you do yeah for sure (19:47) there have been times where we're hanging out when we travel together and it's like he has (19:49) so many less thoughts than I do I just turn I just turn it off shut down the machine dude

Kevin Palmieri

(19:56) sometimes it gets to a point where it's like all right that's enough but it is what it (20:00) like that's just sometimes I just turn it off I'm not gonna lie about it I'm not gonna (20:04) lie about it mine doesn't ever shut off but I also what I will say is there's today was (20:10) a really good example when we'll go in here in a minute when Alan logged on I was like (20:15) it seems like I've accomplished nothing today something happened with YouTube that affected (20:21) a client and I literally just sat here and I was like okay um so if that's how we're (20:27) going to do it then we got to do this this this what does that mean I got to message (20:31) the client find out what they want to do okay I got a message the person on this person's (20:35) team to figure out and I spent four hours solving one problem damn straight in it but (20:40) it wasn't like I was just in that pocket the whole time I wasn't thinking about fitness (20:45) I wasn't thinking about anything I go very deep into pockets of thought and then I (20:51) then when they close it's like all right we'll shut the door on that and then we go to the

Alan Lazaros

(20:54) next thing so I don't know yeah last piece I know we gotta go yeah you remember when you (20:59) and now I understand the implications of this I don't say these things anymore but when you (21:04) said we were trying to get seven episodes done we only got three I was like yeah but (21:08) what we got done in the other time we weren't sitting there in the studio hanging out we were (21:13) talking about life and business and strategy and what we should and shouldn't do next and (21:17) how to improve and we weren't just like chilling when you're with me I hope you can say we're always (21:25) getting somewhere even if it doesn't feel like it sometimes it's cognitively we're getting (21:30) somewhere like we're leveling up we're trying to figure out the distinctions like not three (21:34) months ago I didn't identify the difference between fantasy and imagination I not consciously (21:40) because you're Winnebago story of like being in the MLB and that was fantasy that was early baby (21:45) purely for me I visualized my future you were fantasizing about yours and that's the difference (21:52) and there's also a couple more you know it's like fantasy then it's imagination then I think (21:57) it's strategy then you visualize then it's skill development then you do and and ruminate is like (22:05) good or bad depending so I'm going to make a framework but at the end of the day what (22:10) percentage are you doing versus thinking versus ruminating versus and how many of your thoughts (22:16) are based on fears that are not even rational like your chances of being struck by lightning (22:22) are one in I don't know 10 million I'd have to look it up it's it's not going to happen (22:27) and if you spend 80% of your consciousness worried about being struck by lightning (22:31) that consciousness could have been spent on building the next iPhone or building the next (22:36) company or or or your dreams like you have to think about your dreams we become what we think (22:41) about is a quote that James Allen wrote about in as a man thinketh I don't know early 1900s or (22:47) something and people say it all the time like you become what you think about no you actually do (22:51) though like if you if you think all the time about angry birds you're gonna be an angry bird like (22:57) because you're gonna be lazy and your life's gonna suck and and then you're gonna be resentful (23:02) and hateful and and mad at the Kevins of the world or the Allens of the world and so you do

Kevin Palmieri

(23:06) become what you think about you son of a bitch why'd you go by name first the Kevins of the world

Alan Lazaros

(23:11) because I think you're finally becoming someone who that kind of person might hate

Kevin Palmieri

(23:16) it's been really nice for me uh you know if yeah if you if you play Angry Birds all day your your (23:21) future is definitely in trouble for sure unfortunately I'm sorry I'm sorry but that (23:25) is unfortunate I used to play back in the day when we first started this I used to play (23:28) toilet games all for sure seriously no back in the day did you know the cost no that was costing you (23:35) your future didn't know I was pooping and I was like let me fire up this this game where you like

Alan Lazaros

(23:40) I don't remember what it was but no if you show me what you focus on I can show you your future

Kevin Palmieri

(23:46) I'm as guilty as anybody of all the things we talk about not to do that's why I try to admit (23:51) all the things that I've done that have been wildly unintelligent because if I (23:56) I'm not the guy who's like I I never did that nope I did it all baby I didn't play Call of Duty ghosts

Alan Lazaros

(24:04) in between meetings in corporate thinking that was good for my future I didn't think it was I (24:11) don't think it was good I just didn't realize how bad it was yeah I knew I and I knew it was (24:18) terrible for my future and I still chose to do it anyway because I wanted friends well that (24:23) is truly stupid yeah like that's a whole different level I think that's the epitome of why I'm so (24:29) hard on myself because at least you didn't know I knew and I still did it you know who's worse I

Kevin Palmieri

(24:36) didn't know but you knew and chose to do it I literally uh just found by accident my playstation (24:42) so we moved however many months ago no no uh playstation 4 whatever whatever the latest one (24:47) dude that's no no I don't have I don't know so cool but like when we moved it went into a box (24:51) somewhere because I hadn't played it in a year or whatever I literally just found it dude I used (24:57) to that used to be a staple in my nighttime routine like I'd play video games I haven't (25:00) played video games and how much money do you think it cost you to play video games and that's where

Alan Lazaros

(25:05) you get me I dude I don't know millions of dollars 50 years from today but I oh no no no see that (25:10) won't land well I know per year the years you played it how much money you think you could

Kevin Palmieri

(25:15) have made with that time this is the thing this is where it gets wonky I wasn't gonna be working (25:20) during that time so I don't think it works for me but you could have been but I wasn't gonna be (25:25) yeah I could have been I could have been fucking Michael Jordan but I'm not you know like by that

Alan Lazaros

(25:31) rationale opportunity we have to do an episode on opportunity cost at some point I know we've (25:35) done it but that will land like tv isn't free it's costing you time that you'll never get back

Kevin Palmieri

(25:42) yeah yeah but what if you're not investing that time there's levels of investment right so like

Alan Lazaros

(25:46) no but no matter what you could invest it the plants you water grow and if you're watering (25:51) playstation you're you can't have a great marriage and play playstation like I strongly disagree no (25:58) no you can't play playstation every day and have a great marriage fair like you have to be and put (26:03) it this way whose marriage is going to be better the dude who plays playstation for two hours a (26:07) night or the dude who spends time with his wife well I but we're it's not close we're suggesting

Kevin Palmieri

(26:12) the cost yeah but we're suggesting that one can't do both you can't of course you can you get out (26:18) you get off work at five you play playstation for two hours you hang out with your wife two hours

Alan Lazaros

(26:22) what are we doing here but no what about the person who hangs out with the wife for four hours or has (26:28) a side hustle or there are constructive and destructive uses of time and I'm all for like (26:33) if you're a pro gamer that's great it's very hard to invest level 10 time into something that doesn't (26:37) pay you back that's that's like really unintelligent and we can talk about it and I'm glad we're we (26:41) need to have those arguments because I think that's the value of this show now is like you're (26:47) gonna be the bridge anyone who thinks it's a good idea to play playstation two hours a night like (26:53) you should listen to Kevin and I because Kev's like I used to do that and I know the downside (27:00) and Kevin Allen's too extreme for you to latch on to what he's saying but cut it down to one

Kevin Palmieri

(27:05) for fuck's sake one thing one thing that's shots fired if you're 42 out there shots fired direct

Alan Lazaros

(27:11) yeah I'm only 36 no 42 year old should be playing playstation two hours a night (27:16) that wants to be successful that wants to be yeah but in love healthy wealthy and in love yeah

Kevin Palmieri

(27:22) um what was I gonna say that was cool when I was 17 bro then we really gotta go hold on (27:29) Fletcher McGillicuddy I lost it I lost it because I was actually in flow which is good (27:36) I hit I was in flow which is good yeah it'll come back I will what I'm gonna do my my promise to you (27:42) and everybody watching and listening is I will think about what I think my percentages are (27:47) but I really want to make sure we discuss like what is the framework decision making matrix to (27:54) implement or ignore in tomorrow's episode which is going to be a part two okay cool all right if (27:59) you're trying to figure out where you're investing the most time whether it's conscious unconscious (28:02) physical time like you're actually doing it reach out to Alan for coaching he will help you figure (28:06) it out as he did with that client if one of the things you want to implement better is fitness (28:11) accountability we have a free whatsapp group totally free we're in there every day I'm flexing (28:16) Alan's flexing people are crushing it people have workout streaks mile streaks it's awesome (28:21) so you to Alan's point just like what you pay attention to you will become you will become (28:26) like the type of people you spend time around everybody in there is crushing it reach out to (28:30) Alan and or I will let you in as always we love you appreciate you grateful for each and every one (28:33) of you if you are as committed as you say you are to getting to the next level make sure you tune (28:37) in tomorrow because we will be here every single day to help you get there keep leveling up to (28:41) reach your full potential next elimination thanks for joining us for another episode of Next Level (28:47) University we love connecting with the Next Level family we mean it when we say family if you ever

Alan Lazaros

(28:53) need anything please reach out to us directly everything you need to get a hold of us is in (28:58) the show notes thank you again and we will talk to you tomorrow